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we're back to president biden giving an update on the student loan forgiveness program. he will be speaking at that podium right there. we'll go there when he begins.
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first, candidates in some of the most crucial races of these midterms are starting to debate in a few hours. in georgia, brian kemp squares off with his democrat opponent stacey abrams for the first time in the gubernatorial rematch and what they will be telling voters. what will happen there in the first big election cycle since donald trump allegedly tried to overturn the 2020 election in that state. we have a report on what election officials are doing to stress test new security features meant to protect the process. and the senate race is tight in ohio, republican jd vance and congressman tim ryan will debate for the second time and what voters tell us they're looking to hear from the two men. and where it all stands, new numbers out today shows a lot has changed in the last month. can we trust those numbers though? are they outliers? we will get some expert opinion on that. i'm katy tur in for hallie
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jackson. with me now is nbc news correspondent blaine alexander in atlanta, jesse kirsch in youngstown, ohio, and nbc news senior political editor mark murray is here with us as well. start us off, blayne alexander. give us the expectation for tonight's debate. >> well, this is a closely-watched debate. a closely-watched race. and a number of polls show it is indeed a close race. i want to start with the latest polling between governor brian kemp, the republican and democratic challenger stacey abrams. looking at the quinnipiac numbers from last night, it shows they are virtually tied, stacey abrams by a percentage point or so. but it is important to point out that other recent polls throughout the election cycle show brian kemp with a much wider lead over stacey abrams. either way it shakes out, it is going to be certainly one that is very close. and that's why the parties are looking to get people to come out not just on election day but
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with early voting. we talked with resources on both sides. and unlike the senate race that is taking place in the state, where really the candidates are focusing on a lot of issues and it has officially not been a lot of dramatic for lack of a better term and for brian kemp, one thing he is focused on and his team, his record, quite frankly four years ago, he didn't have a report to run on, running as a very closely aligned candidate with then president trump. this year, of course, it is a very different ball game. the two had a very public flip and running solely on his record. stacey abrams on her part is running on a number of things, expanding medicaid and access to education, but abortion rights, protecting abortion rights is something she has told me personally, at her campaign, and it has made cleerks it is going to be and conditioning to be a forefront of the campaign going forward. >> and what about the ways that the officials out there are trying to stress test the system. what is happening there? >> this is a completely different environment than the
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last time there was a major election here in georgia. we all know that of course because of the conspiracy theories, launched against the state. i spoke with a couple of people from the secretary of state's office, chief among them is michael barnes. somebody who is working in that office for more than two decades and he knows the election system backward and forward and he walked me through the entire process and all of the security measures in place, and it includes some of the lock on the system and the i.d. check and checking the ballots and they're doing all of this to combat the election lies, to give people confidence in the system, to really push back on people who say there is no validity in this process, and as for somebody who knows the election in and out what does he think when he hears those claims. here's what he told me. >> well, we believe we need to look at voters who have a distrust in the system. what we try to do every day is try to show them that there isn't anything, a, to be afraid of, that the system here is to
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be ready to participate in the process and all to facilitate the ability of that individual to express what they want to have happen in the election. >> and one more thing that is rolled out today, on the first day of early voting, georgia secretary of state's office has rolled out essentially a new texting tool that allows poll managers to be able to send a text message to a special five-digit number and report any threats against a polling location and any sort of suspicious activities. this is in direct response to what we saw with the unprecedented attacks on poll workers in 2020. and they said they're rolling this out to provide realtime support, so if somebody sends any sort of an alert, then it goes to either the county elections board or in some cases law enforcement, directly, through the secretary of state's office, and they can send real resources, depending on the magnitude of that threat. >> also the threats that come later on, thank you.
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mark murray, senator warnock debated herschel walker on friday. and early voting begins there in georgia. speaking to reporters afterwards, here is what he said. >> claimed to be a college graduate. he is not. claimed to be a valedictorian of his class. he is not. claimed to have 800 employees of his business. he had eight. and to say he started a business that does not even exist. so i guess he expects the people of georgia now to imagine that he is also a united states senate. he is clearly not one. >> so there was a moment during the debate where walker held up a honorary police badge, and again said that he is a police officer, our colleague kristen welker sat down with him and asked him about it and said it is an mon mon rather badge and
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continued to push it and claimed he had the ability to act as a police officer with the honorary badge. >> for everything that happened on friday and everything that did not happen on sunday, are the polls moving at all? are there undecided voters out there who are still thinking about whether to give walk area shot? >> the overall polling, including the polls that we saw last week and blayne was talking about the quinnipiac survey, that this has been a pretty stable race where raphael warnock has been leading by just a handful of points, and remains a very close race. and the way that i tend to think about georgia, we a really close gubernatorial election between brian kemp and stacey abrams in 2018. we saw a close presidential contest in 2020 and saw a close runoff contest. i think we should brace ourselves for very close races when it comes to the united states senate race, between herschel walker, and raphael
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warnock as well as in the gubernatorial race. but what does stand out to me is raphael warnock seems to be outperforming stacey abrams and that has been consistent in all of the polling that i've seen. >> let's go to ohio. we have jd vance versus tim ryan coming up for the second time tonight. what are voters telling you, jesse about, what they want it hear? >> reporter: yes, so i talked with voters outside of an early voting location, cuyahoga county, cleveland, very heavily democratic, and what was coming up with those voters, foirs and foremost is that one of the voters we spoke with is abortion, abortion rights and that is something that at least some voters here are thinking about. and we haven't seen that issue factoring as heavily in the senate race here as we have in the gubernatorial race here. and it doesn't seem that it is necessarily moving the need until the gubernatorial race based on the polling around that race, but what i can tell you about what we expect to see tonight is probably more of one of the other main issues, that
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is in the midterms here, a blustery ohio here, and that is going to be the economy, particularly you'll see republican jd vance try to make this about democrats not doing a good job with the economy, and congressman tim ryan, the democratic nominee, has been trying to defend democrats on particularly the inflation reduction act and defending his vote on that, so he is trying to talk about the good things that have come from democrats on the economy, and i know that one of the voters i spoke with last week talked about economic issues, not just starting with the biden administration, and again, people i was talking to, it had been a heavily democratic area and the other thing to be watching for tonight is more defense versus offense and i think jd vance is a position that this is a state where he led and you would expect a republican to do well and trying to hold together the republican vote, and i think tim ryan is trying to play offense and see if he can poke any holes and try to peel off some republican voters who might be particularly fatigued about trump-ism and i think that is the lane he is
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trying to play, in and talking about himself someone who can reach across the aisle, and both men we will see again trying to say that, that the persona that each candidate is putting son fraudulent, doesn't line up with the reality of how they act and that is something to be looking for any more zingers that could be thrown because that is often that comes out of the debates and surely be about what we're talking about tomorrow. >> the zingers can be flippant but again, they're the stuff that gets repeat and played over and over again on social media and tiktok and where a lot of people get their news. mark murray, how does this race look in terms of the numbers? >> it's close, and i think all indications are that tim ryan has outperformed everyone's expectations in this state, as jesse was just mentioning, that donald trump ended up winning by about 8 percentage points in 2020. and jd vance has been underperforming. particularly the top of the ticket. and the republican governor mike dewine is also running for
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re-election. every survey that i've seen shows jd vance underperforming dewine right now. there is a big debate about whether democrats should be investing even more to be able to help out tim ryan, to basically make sure that they have more pieces on the 2022 chess board. but i do think that there is kinds of a, when we look at whether democrats should be playing more, is whether we really do believe the polls that end up showing a tie race, or maybe that has tim ryan up by one point or down one point, because again, this is a state that donald trump won by 8 percentage points in 2020, in an election that almost everyone voted. you had huge turnout. and the political winds are blowing in the democrats' face right now overall. so you know, democrats, you know, my conversations with them, they think they have better pickup opportunities obviously in pennsylvania, and in wisconsin, than maybe north carolina, and then we're talking about ohio, and florida. >> there's so many races, you named a bunch of them, there was
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also talk about utah, potentially, with mike lee, facing a stiff challenge, from evan mcmullen and "the new york times" and sienna had a new poll out today that showed republicans on the generic ballot were in the lead to democrats, a swing, because democrats were ahead last month and they showed this wild swing between independent female voters, 32 point swing from democrats to republicans, which is a wild number, i was talking to dave wasserman from the political report last hour who said that is such a wild swing, within one month, that he's not inclined to believe it. what do you think, mark? >> yes, it is a small sample of when you go into those types of sub-groups, and see, you know, just one survey, kind of a rule of thumb we have in our own polling that some of those sub-group movements, you want to see two polls in a row before you draw any big conclusions. but the conclusion that i end up seeing is that at least the wid
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seems to be at the republicans back right now. >> 22 days is a long time as we all know. mark murray, jesse kirsch, thank you very much. and blayne alexander, thank you, she had to leave a little bit early. president biden is speaking about student loan relief. take a listen. >> student aid.gov. you can fill out your name, social security number, date of birth, and contact information, and no upload, no special log-in to remember, it's available in english and in spanish, and on desk top and mobile. it takes less than five minutes. and if you have any questions, you follow up and we will be able to follow up with you. this is a game changer for millions of americans, to get moving. and it took an incredible amount of effort to get this website done in such a short time. i want to thank the secretary of education, there he is. second of education crdona who is with me today, he and his team and a talented group of
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data scientists and engineers across the federal government test and launched this new application in just weeks. and the secretary insisted that the test, it had to be tested over the weekend, and it landed and handled more than 8 million applications, without a glitch, or any difficulty. and we had over 10,000 people contact the white house, send us letters or calls, thanking us, and more than 8 million americans are starting this week on their way to receiving a life-changing relief they're looking for. it started today. with millions more and we'll have the opportunity to do it as well. as millions of people fill out the application, we're going to make sure the system continues to work as smoothly as possible, so that we can deliver student loan relief for millions of america as quickly and efficiently as possible. my commitment was if i was elected president, i was going to make government work for the people and this rollout keeps
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that commitment. just as i am keeping my commitment to relieve student debt as borrowers in this once in a lifetime pandemic, i hope god forbid, i say once in a lifetime, that is another issue, we need more funding for this, for dealing with future pandemics. but i want to be clear who is going to benefit the most. working people. middle class. if you earn less than $125,000 a year, you will get up to 10,000 dollars knocked off your student debt. if you earn less than $125,000 a year, and you referred a pell grant, you will get up to an additional $10,000 knocked off that debt, so $20,000 in your name. and in total, more than 40 million americans can stand to benefit from this relief. and about 90%, 90% of that relief is going to go to people making less than $75,000 a year. let me be clear.
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not a dime will go to those in the top 5% of income bracket. period. now, let's talk about who is against helping these hard working middle class americans. republican members of congress, republican governors, are trying to do everything they can to deny this, even to their own constituents. as soon as i announced my administration's student debt plan, they started attacking it and saying all kinds of things. their outrage is wrong and it is hypocritical. i will never apologize for helping working american middle class people as they recover from the pandemic. especially not the same republicans who voted for $2 trillion tax cut in the last administration, and mainly benefitted the wealthiest americans and the largest corporations and didn't pay for a penny and racked up the deficit. i don't want to hear from republican officials again who had hundreds of thousands of dollars, even millions of dollars in pandemic relief loans, ppp loans, but who now
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attack the working middle class americans who are getting relief. these are members of congress who received these loans. they didn't do anything wrong. they qualified. they qualified for, in one case $2 million. and despite what the republican officials say, we can't, when we're able to afford the student loan relief because of our historic deficit reduction act that the republicans voted against. on my watch, the deficit fell by $350 billion last year. and on track to reduce it by $1 trillion this fiscal year. we're also set to reduce another $300 billion over the next ten years because of the medicaid, being able to negotiate drug prices. that's not all. in relieving student debt, we're also resuming student loan programs. the student loan program that we paused during the pandemic. come january, folks have to start to pre-pay their student loans, if they qualify, and if
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they don't qualify for this relief. that means billions of dollars a year will start coming in to the u.s. treasury. my administration's plan is economically responsible, an economically responsible course to ensure a smooth transition to repaying and repaying unnecessary defaults. i will also focus on going after fraudsters who called borrowers, they will receive these calls, i tell anybody who is trying to qualify for these loans, if you get a call pretending they're from the government trying to help you with your loans, let's be clear. hang up. you never have to pay for any federal help from the student loan program. you will get calls if you do this, we'll pay that, you can get relief. that's fraud. if you get any personal calls, questionable calls, please tell us by going to report fraud, report fraud.ftc.gov.
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my message to fraudsters looking to cheat the american people, don't do it. we will hold you accountable. let me close with this. today marks a big day of our administration and the ticket to the middle class, that folks can actually afford. don't take my word for, it and received 10,000 letters from across the country a woman in colorado wrote, she grew up she said in the school lunch and food stamp programs, started working at age 13, and on the way to college, to a good job. until she was injured in an accident and couldn't find full time work. she said her student loan debt was weighing her down. but now, she can, quote, breathe again. a mom in california, i received a pell grant to become a nurse, and just had her fourth child and the stress of the pandemic pulled the weight of the student loans-her more heavily making every day life really hard and
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says that weight is lifted making life easier for her. and something we don't talk about very much, a lot of seniors, still carry the burden of student debt, whether for themselves, or for their children, and grandchildren. retiree in oregon wrote how she never missed a payment and says this relief quote means the world to her. that's what today's announcement is about. so let's get started. a new student loan application is now open. if you have federal student debt, please visit studentaid.gov. it's easy. simple and fast. and it's a new day for millions of americans all across our nation. may god bless you all. and may god protect our troops. thank you. >> mr. president, do you believe litigation will get in the program? >> yes, that's what is going on right now. litigation is under way.
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and i don't think our legal judgment is, our legal judgment is that it won't, but they're trying to stop it. >> how many people have already applied through the website, do you know? >> over 8 million people. >> and will people who have privately-held loans, will they at some point become eligible for the forgiveness because they no longer are? >> we're working on supporting those who work and moving quickly as possible to provide relief to as many people as possible. thank you. >> 8 million people so far have applied for student debt relief. you just heard it right there. quite a few people. you also heard a question about the private loans and this is something that the white house kind of quietly took back, when the student aid loans were announced and the relief was announced that it was for all sorts of loans, pushing back on
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a certain sub-set of those loans that were given out by private banks and they were saying it is not fair to the private banks, and losing money and the white house took it back and said people for the fsel loans were no longer eligible so there is a lot of discontent among those students who, former students who won't be able to get that money back. and the question was, when are they going to be able to see some aid. and you just heard soon. they're working on it, hopefully. let's bring in nbc news correspondent monica alba and mike murray. >> did i get that right? >> exactly right. this is something that the borrowers thought were going to be eligible and a couple of weeks ago the white house had to clarify and roll that back. and it was as a result of some of these legal challenges, and some of these lawsuits that were brought which also is why it took a while for the white house to announce this plan entirely. candidate joe biden campaigned on this, and then it took him about a year to go over the
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legality of how they might implement it, precisely because of the challenge like the one we were just discussing, but the fact that 8 million people have applied, of the 43 million or so who would be eligible for some debt relief here, and forgiveness, it is significant, the white house announcing today, because they launched this in a beta format late friday night, so just over the weekend, you saw these people filling out forms anecdotally many said it only took 60 seconds, the easiest government website they had ever encountered and they wanted to release this way to see if there were any issues, bug, kinks with the system before it becomes official later this month. and again, this will apply to people making less than $15,000, eligible for $1 -- 125 thousand, eligible for $10,000 in relief and students with pell grants will be eligible for an additional $10,000. so a total of $20,000. the reason the time line is
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important, because once this is approved, once these applications go all the way through, they could see that debt relief in four to six weeks. and the reason that is significant is because starting january 1st, that's when payments would be expected and given the pauses during the pandemic and the last pause is set to expire at the end of the year. so the only other two things i'll point out that the president talked about there, he said if you see any fraud, that is if anyone is trying to take your money, to give you any help with this, he wanted to remind everybody despite it's completely free and to report that fraud, and he also reminded everybody that we're not just talking about young people here, there are some retirees who are still paying off that debt or have it for their kids and grandkids, so this is affecting a really wide scope of americans for this announcement today. >> a lot of people have that debt. 8 million, and just a few days. mark murray, this is something that the democrats and the white house are trying to use on the campaign trail as well, saying hey, listen, we're here helping you right now.
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the democrats are helping you. this is what we did, without any republican support. >> as monica was just saying, this something he, this is something that he promised often in 2020 and i see this as a base move to bring a deliverable to members of the democratic base but also young democrats who necessarily aren't your kind of joe biden democrats at all, and our polling ends up showing this is mainly a kind of a jump ball issue on the number of voters who end up saying this is a good idea or a bad idea. but it is very popular, and this shouldn't be surprising to you, where people who do have student loans. versus not as popular with those who either don't have student loans or who didn't go to college. and with democrats really wanting to be able to juice that turnout and certainly get younger people to the polls, to me it is not surprising that this ended up getting rolled out in the months before the midterm election and of course, a new
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announcement today on how this could actually benefit people, and benefit people quickly. i do see there is some political motivation behind all of this. >> not to make everything a political factor, but when you are running, you are trying to prove to people that you are going to follow through with the policies that you campaign on. so mark murray, monica, thank you very much for joining us. coming up, we take this last hour, let's talk about it more, what kanye west did after he got blocked from twitter and instagram for anti-semitic posts. first though, it is day 12 of the oath keepers trial. the prosecution revealed new texts between the oath keepers and online gun sellers. we're going to have those texts and what the prosecution says they were intending with those guns. this is the moment. for a treatment for moderate-to-severe eczema.
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prosecutors introduce new
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evidence that they say shows oath keeper stewart rhodes purchased multiple firearms in the days leading up to january 6th. the d.o.j. insisted that these weapons were headed for an arlington hotel room where the oath keepers had set up a heavily-armed so-called quick reaction force, qrf, meant to move into dc on the 6th if they believed that it was necessary. joining me now is nbc news justice reporter ryan riley. he has been covering the trial for us and is outside of the court. what did you hear today? >> reporter: so you know, we've heard a lot more about that qrf, it was a quick reaction force, as you mentioned, the hotel out in virginia, one of the oath keepers testified last week the most guns he had seen since his days in the military. so we saw a lot of video in fact, of a lot of these individuals bringing those guns in and out there. was talk about how long those potential bags were, whether they could store long guns. we also learned some new information or confirmed some new information about the
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officials in iran say at least eight people killed and dozens more injured after a massive fire at a prison in tehran on saturday. the prison is known to house anti--government activists and political prisoners including two u.s. citizens. it is unclear how the fire began. iran's judiciary says prisoners were burning their uniforms. nbc news cannot verify that claim. it is also unclear if it is connected to the anti-government protests across the country. iran state media says it is not. joining me now is iranian
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american journalist and host of the iran podcast, thank you very much for being here. so this fire, we got a report from tehran last hour, and the officials there, between state media and the officials, the numbers are all over the place. what can you tell from the outside about what is going on there? >> well, not only from outside the country but inside the country, it is a very secure and heavily guarded complex and it houses as you said many political prisoners, and protesters who have been arrested, and recently together with other prisoners. we know the fire started in the prison, with regard to what officials and others have reported. there are contradicting reports and statements from the officials. some say it was caused by the prisoners. and the judiciary is saying it
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is caused by outside forces. they called it a crime. a big crime. and some prisoners from inside were talking to a news outlet and challenging the official account by the government. it is still unclear. the u.n. has also called for a federal investigation at what happened at the evin prison. and one thing we know is that many families of the prisoners who were inside were worried about their loved ones, they gathered outside the prison at night, and the fire was just started at night in the after-hours when the doors are locked and there is limited mobility in the prison. so the way the prisoners are starting to stall their families and say that they're okay, and some have been moved to other wards, and other prisons, but still unclear what the actual casualty and injuries are. >> so the protests across the country against the government are still ongoing, they're being led by young women, and there's even some public displays now of young women taking off their
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head scarves. is it just young women? who is this coalition that is protesting the government, and from your experience, how effective do you think that they will ultimately be? >> it is women and allies. so women, young girls, school girls, university students, many men that are also joining them, and it is an intersectional community of protesters, so at the core of it is a feminism uprising, years and years of resistance that culminated in anger and demanding basic rights and freedoms, and all sorts of discriminatory laws imposed on their laws in family, marriage, child custody and different segments, as i said, teachers, students, university students and lawyers and recently oil workers, and they're joined, many of which overlap, with the
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underlying economic and political and social impact. and it is a significant moment. it is revolutionary in itself. and at the core of it is the women's rights issues and a fight for equality. >> thanks for joining us. we will have you back on again to keep talking about this as these protests continue. coming up next, how kanye west went from getting locked out of twitter for anti-semitic comments to trying to buy his own conservative social media company. we will tell you how successful he might be. and a whibl reveals tension and turmoil inside donald trump's own social media platform. we have the reporter on that exclusive reporting, joining nus just a moment. (vo the new iphone 14 pro is here. and right now business owners can get it on us at t-mobile. apple business essentials with apple care+ is included so you can easily manage your team's devices, here, and here. all on the network with more 5g coverage.
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ground-breaking move into the free speech media space and will never have to fear from being removed from social media again. the deal is expected to go through in the next two months or so. last week, ye was widely criticized, locked out of twitter and restricted on instagram because of his anti-semitic posts talking about war against the jews. joining me now is nbc news technology correspondent jacob ward. so jacob, what is this deal? and what is parler for those who don't know? >> katy, this, as i sat down with you today, what am i, how am i going to jam all of this into one conversation, because there is so much going on here. why is he buying parler. it is not at all clear. he can afford it. he can a billionaire at this point. and parler has just raised about $56 million in funding according to its head, and so in theory, yes, he can afford this thing, he can go and buy it, but what is the business case for it?
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it not entirely clear. the one thing he does have in common with parler's users is being essentially ex communicated from mainstream social media. as you mentioned, he's been kicked off instagram, and then off of twitter, after saying and tweeting anti-semitic things on both platforms and then doubled down on some of those statements over the weekend, on a new podcast episode, and so he doesn't seem to be backing away from that. parler along with a half dozen other sites is essentially based on the premise that it is a social media platform for people who cannot stay above water, and cannot stay in the good graces of twitter and instagram and can't behave themselves in public. and you know, but then what is exactly the crossover here between the audience that kanye has always gone after? ye, i should say. and he has always been about sort of elevating himself in the realm of fashion, and culture, right, the met gala crown that he is, you know, he sort of worked so hard to be a part of
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it, has nothing to do with the parler audience, the venn diagram does not overlap and parler is one of these nonmainstream sort of proconservative social media platforms, and you know, it is estimated it has, the number is sketchy but something like half a million, maybe almost a million active monthly users so it is not very much so the math alone doesn't make sense. this is a very strange move by ye in this moment of incredible turmoil. >> kicked off of regular social media and people were saying things that were extreme even for regular social media. parler, you can parlay, but for some reason, it is pronounced parler, thank you very much. the "washington post" has exclusive reporting on another social media site, turmoil inside trump media, the company that owns donald trump's platform truth social. the allegations come from a top executive who has now turned
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whistle-blower. will wilkerson was one of the company's first employees and he said he published the former president's first post on the platform. now, he is alleging the company violated securities laws and he telling "the post" donald trump pressured executives to hand their shares over to his wife melania. he shared internal documents with "the post" and federal investigators that he says support his claims. wilkerson was fired after he talked to "the post" according to their report. when asked about the allegation, the company did not address any of the specific claims, and said that in part that the company is already a success having launched an apple launched in apple and google stores, adding quote, "the washington post" sent us an inquiry with knowingly false and defamatory statements and other concocted psycho dramas. drew, that statement sounds a lot like statements made by
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donald trump himself. these documents, this proof that the whistleblower brought to you, what does it show? >> it shows a lot. these are hundreds of records that the whistleblower gathered over many months. it shows not just the daily bureaucratic work of a company cofounder, but a lot of negotiating with donald trump and his adult sons and the business empire to build this product and it shows you know, a lot of that friendly sort of being undermined. by this bitter rivalry built between trump and the people running his company. at the end point when donald trump was asking for shares from his wife from the company cofounders, there was so much animosity and now the company is very different than when it started. there's a lot of materials here.
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there were reported on by us certainly and they've been shared with the government. the sec has said they are investigating this whole maneuver that has led this company to be created. so i think that's going to be really interesting material as regulators and investigators review this deal. was it concocted in the right way or was there something wrong. >> what about the proof to the claim specifically that donald trump pressured investors to hand over their shares to melania. what does he have regarding that? >> will was at the coffee shop with the cofounder when he got the call from donald trump himself. it was a day when they were celebrating you know, the company having launched. so he remembered having this call. andy sent to note to himself, an e-mail to himself that will was able to see as an administrator of the company where andy is saying donald trump has pressured me for months to give these shares away. i don't want to give these shares away.
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i built this company on my own. plus, i couldn't handle the tax bill if i were to hand them over. so this is a very candid expression of what happened with donald trump here. we know it happened in reality. andy was out of the company. he has been out for a couple of months and it's a company now run by a representative. we have some real, it's rare to get this level of candor from inside a company in real time of how everybody is doing so again, these are powerful materials that are going to really reveal a lot. >> interesting. we'll wait to see what sec does about it, if anything. thank you so much. politico is reporting today that frustration is mounting inside the biden administration with the president's top border chief. five top officials who work with the head of customs and board of protection tell politico he is
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unengaged in his role saying he often skips white house meetings on the situation at the border. some officials think he has not prioritized addressing the influx of migrants coming across the border. in response, the border chief is telling politico quote, i've always been someone who aggressively questions the status quo, looks for ways to do things better and engages directly with the public and workforce. politico reporter, daniel lipman, joins me now with what his sources are telling him. it's really good to see you. >> you, too. >> what are these folks saying? >> they're saying that magnus is basically in over his head. that as we have a historic surge of migrants at the border fueled by a lot of venezuelans leaving that failed country that magnus does not go to those white house meetings. they even say that he falls asleep in meetings. that's what they see according to six sources, which is not
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exactly very confidence inducing. magnus told me when i presented this material that he has ms and there are brief periods of tiredness he gets as a result. but this is kind of a rare leak from inside dhs from these biden administration officials who may be looking for scapegoat. i thought this was important material to share. >> it is a rare leak. we haven't heard any of these sorts of things. there were a lot during the trump administration. so if you don't mind just expanding on that and why that might be a scapegoating move by other officials. >> the immigration issue is being used in a lot of republican campaign ads. inflation is overshadowing that. the 2 million encounters at the border is not great news for the biden administration and with little chance of immigration reform going through congress,
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biden hasn't lifted a finger to do anything to try to adjust the root causes in terms of a reform package. there's been confusion of who has what portfolio in terms of addressing the issue. so you know, people told me that magnus is just not you know, he brings up issues that are tangential to actually solving the issue. he blames other agency. he bad mouths immigration and customs enforcement and doesn't get along with, he hasn't built the relationships within dhs, within his own agency, within other agencies in the huge dhs orbit to effectively do his job. so that's kind of red flags in terms of his performance. he's a senate confirmed person and there are real questions if he has confidence from his own key officials. >> we'll see if president biden says anything about this reporting. thank you very much for joining us. always good to see you. >> thank you.
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hi there, everyone. it's 4:00 in new york. we have new reporting on an explosive story that broke last week on the tensions building inside the biggest criminal investigation in u.s. history. we are of course talking about the fbi's probe into the january 6 insurrection and reporting by nbc news on an e-mail sent just one week after the deadly capitol attack in which a person wrote to be fbi's now number two official about sympathies that some agents have for the members of the mob who stormed the u.s. capitol. that e-mail reads in part quote there's no good way to say it so i'll just be direct. from my firsthand and secondhand information from conversations since january 6th

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