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the system is safer, more reliable than any time in american history. >> and, peter, finally, donald trump and anti-semitism, what he said, do you have a 15-second comment? >> well, obviously he has appealed time and time again to divisions in our country. i called the book "the divider" because that has been his strategy. this is one more example of that. >> thank you very much, peter baker. thanks to everyone for being with us. and that does it for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports." "chris jansing reports" starts right now. good day. i'm chris jansing live at msnbc headquarters in new york city. with just a few weeks to go and the midterms still too close to call, today president biden is putting his time and his energy behind an issue that, frankly, most americans say is not their
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top priority. you heard it just moments ago. he said he would introduce a bill to protect abortion rights if democrats can hold on to congress. it's clearly an effort to motivate voters. his last words were vote, vote, vote. but with economic worries, not abortion top of mind for most americans, the question is, will it work? plus, would you pay more than $1,000 for a hotel room? a new house investigation finds that the secret service had to do just that repeatedly because that's what the trump organization charged them to stay in their hotels. we have details on this alleged scam. breaking it down with a reporter who knows more about trump's finances than almost anyone. "the new york times'" david. no one likes to pay baggage fees at the airport, even worse if you're unfairly charged. that's what happened to customers of one major airline, so they fought back and they won. we'll dig into the details of
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the settlement by american airlines and how you might get a piece of that money. but we start with the mi terms and as election day creeps closer, it seems like we're getting less clarity and more question marks. race that is weren't supposed to be close are neck and neck. and the issues the democrats thought would propel them to victory just three months ago, abortion, is no longer a top priority for most voters. overwhelmed in the closing weeks of the campaign by economic worries. but today president biden is trying to bring abortion back into the national spotlight. >> you care about the right to choose, then you have to vote. that's why the midterm elections are so critical to keep control of the house of representatives. folks, if we do that, here is the promise i make to you and the american people. the first bill that i will send to the congress will be to
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codify roe v. wade. >> so the question now is whether this changes how abortion resonates in the senate races that will decide control of congress. in georgia where abortion allegations have dogged republican senate candidate herschel walker, polls from september show just 5% of voters even list it as their top issue. and, in fact, last night governor brian kemp and his opponent, stacy abrams, spent far more time debating the economy than abortion. but they flipped the script we've seen in other races with the democrat complaining about the economy and the republican defending it. >> our coverage has been as any state in the country. we have had two record years of economic development. >> this is a governor the last four years has beat his chest but delivered very little for most georgians. >> nbc's blayne alexander is live in atlanta. the state house reporter for "the cleveland plain dealer" and a former white house aide and served as national deputy
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director of african american outreach in the 2008 obama/biden campaign. it's good to have all of you here. blayne, we talk about these unexpected outcomes. the senate race was expected to be pretpretty close. what's the candidate strategy the last three weeks of campaigns? >> reporter: certainly it's good news for both campaigns that voters actually heard from both candidates on the very first day, the very same day they went to the polls for early voting. these are the things that they want to stay with voters going into this final stretch before election day. i think a couple of notable things we can expect, one, early voting is certainly going to be a key for both of them. it's something we know is something that's strong for democrats. we know early voters, people come out and vote early, typically that's good news for democrats and a couple of democratic sources underscored that point for me today looking at these record breaking numbers
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out of georgia. but one thing that's interesting is we're also seeing that same message from republicans. governor brian kemp has several times said to his supporters, go out, vote early. we want to show early momentum. it's something he said on the campaign trail at events i've been at and something he repeated earlier today even on fox news. when you look at that and also you look at the fact that georgia now has about 1.6 million more registered voters than back in 2018, it certainly adds a couple of variables. when it comes to strategy as to where the votes are going to come from, yes, of course, metro atlanta. but both campaigns are really looking to other areas. at this point clip they may not see traditional votes. for stacy abrams it's the rural areas around georgia. she's made it clear she knows she's not going to take the four counties but individual votes may be enough to make up the difference. brian kemp will be looking to the suburbs hoping to flip people over to his side that didn't vote for him in 2018.
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>> and a good reminder that even though we say three weeks away from election day for folks there, some of them are already voting. elena, i want to talk about the president and his strategy, as the leader of his party obviously, he's trying to shift the attention back to abortion. i get when he says, look, remember how you felt that day when dobbs came down. because the polls were very different then. the polls show people are more worried about the economy. my question is, is that the speech he should be giving right now? >> i think that it actually is still motivating. i think that certainly as abortion rights or as the overturn of roe v. wade goes back in the rear-view mirror, people need to be reminded how important this is, about how important it is to ensure we have control of the house and the senate. if they get a majority they would have a nationwide ban on
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the right to abortion. and the right for a woman to choose. he's trying to motivate our voters to remember how critical these midterm races are going to be. let's remember the republicans only need one net gain in the senate in order to have a majority and people need to remember, be reminded their vote matters not just for their local race and not just for what is happening in their individual communities but what it means for governance across the country on critical issues like a woman's right to choose. certainly the economy is important and pocketbook issues motivate voters. my former boss, president obama, was talking how the democrats need to be better on messaging, on issues of the economy, and make sure we understand what voters are feeling. but voters are also invested in a woman's right to choose and a
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woman's right to bodily integrity. >> the question is do they vote on it? i wonder if there's a parallel, alaina, to 2010 when president obama blamed the economy for the democrats, quoting him, shellacking. he admitted later it was a mistake. the question is understanding the upset, understanding how people feel strongly especially in the democratic party about abortion, is biden making the same mistake? >> i think it's both. i think we need to be talking about the economy and economic harm and economic hurt as well as these critical issues that motivate the base. that will motivate women and for individuals who are seeing republican leadership as being a return, a removal of rights, a stripping of rights as opposed
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to access to rights. i think it is both. in the polling for republicans, in the same way that we saw that wave in 2014, but i think that the way you stymie that wave is by speaking about what is happening in the pocketbook as well as what it means for larger issues of governance and the roleback of our rights. >> andrew, let me talk to you, about a base too close to call right now. it was kind of fascinate to go watch them trying to keep their distance from party leaders. i want to show a little part of that. >> this guy goes on national tv and says i love nancy pelosi and has the audacity of accusing me of kissing anyone's rear end is pretty rich. >> i ran against nancy pelosi, j.d., for leadership. and you have to have the courage to take on your own leaders. these leaders in d.c. they will eat you up like a chew toy. >> you wrote about the debate.
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you said it didn't break a lot of new ground but the candidates showed more personal contempt for each other this time around. do you think this moves the bar at all? what do you make of the overall debate, andrew? >> one of the things i was looking for going into it, it was conducted in youngstown, where tim ryan is from. and so i was wondering if he might be focusing his message on what he's done for youngstown, speak to a regional message. it is an important political region for the state. instead you saw him talking about these national issues. saw you saw him talking about abortion. it depends -- it reveals ryan was more speaking to people who might catch at that clip on social media as a presentation in the debate itself. you saw him go after vance saying he's made a lot out of that comment that former president trump made about him kissing his rear end as j.d. vance said so politely and stuff like that. like i said, it speaks to tim
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ryan focusing on voters who might be motivated by things like abortion, by things like the january 6th riots and things along those lines as a broader economic message and speaks to how this stuff gets consumed through social media. >> ryan was far ahead. now, as i said, it's too close to call. what's your observation on the ground as you talk to voters? what will make the difference in the end? >> this a really generic 24i7k to say but comes down to turnout. >> turnout, turnout, turnout. >> the polls here have shifted slightly in j.d. vance's favor. it makes sense to me that president biden would be talking about abortion, trying to mobilize democratic voters, remind them of the issue, trying to meet the built-in republican enthusiasm that will be there because of backlash whether it's inflation or democrats controlling the white house. and so it depends on who shows up to vote. there's a lot of chaos in this in terms of how the abortion issue might scramble people
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around that might generally vote, so-called republican leaning woman who might cross over and vote for a democrat, that's who ryan has been focusing on. we've seen signs of republican voters. there's a 25% increase in early vote requests in trumbull county. that's where tim ryan lives, the youngstown area. it will depend on who shows up. >> you won't be so foolish as to predict the outcome of the senate race. how about a little baseball game between the yankees and the guardians at 4:07 p.m.? >> i'm hopeful we'll have one today. that didn't happen last night. it's not a given. >> andrew tobias, alaina beverly, thank you. appreciate it. and now another big story we've been following. it's about threats, finger pointing, intense pressure, a combination of potentially deadly factors described in detail in a new house investigation finding that the trump administration cared more about optics and politics than public health during the darkest days of the pandemic.
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the report concludes there was a concerted effort to suppress scientific reports and bully top official at the cdc all in an attempt to keep the pandemic and thousands of deaths connected to it from reflected poorly on then president trump. i want to bring in nbc senior capitol hill correspondent garrett haake. first of all, garrett, it's great to have you back. welcome. we knew trump didn't see eye to eye with a lot of his officials, but this report really digs deep into what was going on behind the scenes. what are your headlines out of this report? >> reporter: hey, chris, it's good to be back. this report comes with receipts in the forms of transcripts with so many officials up and down hhs and cdc, other agencies tasked with not just combatting the coronavirus but shaping the public health policy and communications around it. in this report we hear from officials like dr. robert redfield, then the cdc director, who said putting together reports on the coronavirus with the kind of oversight they were getting from the trump white house gave him ptsd.
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it says they were muzzled, prevented from giving briefings, forced to go through the white house or the vice president's office if they were going to give interviews, and even the integrity of some of the basic scientific releases, the mortality reports that were sent out on a regular basis, were compromised by political officials. for students of the trump campaigns or the trump white house, one individual is named here, michael caputo, a former longtime trump associate, put in charge at hhs early on in the pandemic. he's described as having bullyish behavior, shaping all the communications from the federal government not to be the most scientifically accurate or the most accurate for public health, but this report alleges meant to be as maximally beneficial to the trump white house as the pandemic transitioned into the summer and the political season in the fall of 2020. >> garrett haake back on capitol hill for us. good to see you, my friend.
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a shocking new investigation shows that donald trump's company made a fortune while housing the secret service agents protecting him and his family. according to the report released by the house oversight committee, trump hotels charged his protected detail more than $1.4 million during his four years in office. eric trump, who ran the company at the time, responded by saying in part, quote, the trump family is likely the first family in american history to have not
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profited off the united states government. back in 2019 he said this. >> if my father travels, they stay at our properties for free, meaning cost for housekeeping effectively because you have to legally charge government something. so everywhere that he goes if he stays at one of his places the government spends -- meaning it saves a fortune because if they were to go to the hotel across the street they would be charged $500 a night. we charge $50. >> it wasn't $50. taxpayers were charged as much as $1,185 a night for those rooms, more than five times the recommended government rate. for more a man who won the pulitzer prize for his reporting. a reporter for "the new york times" and an nbc news contributor. always good to see you, david. the house investigation found trump visited his own properties well over 500 times during his presidency and secret service
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agents, of course, are required to stay because they have to provide protection. you describe it as an arrangement in which mr. trump and his family effectively turned the secret service into a captive customer of their business. you've been looking into these financial dealings for years. what stands out to you from this house investigation report? >> well, the thing we didn't know until yesterday was the highest end the trump organization was charging the secret service agents. we had seen there were charges for $1,185 or $1,160. we didn't know was that one room or five rooms? we know now that was just one room. and so i think the clip you played from eric trump is instructive. that's what the trump organization was saying throughout trump's presidency they were charging. it's free. it's only $50. it saves the government all this money. it couldn't be further from the truth. now the records come out they were charging routinely over $500, $600 a night for hotel
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rooms just because they could and the secret service had no other choice. they had to be there. they were captive customers. >> if, as the report suggests, trump's family business leveraged the presidency to his financial advantage, is that against the law? >> no. the president is exempt from the conflict of interest rules that would apply to almost any other federal government. if you were a middle manager in the department of energy, you certainly couldn't direct to the family business. if you're president, you can. there's nothing illegal about that. in this case what strikes me is the real contrast between what they told the public, what they said they were doing and what they were really doing behind the scenes. >> which is something you have written about in other instances as well. you also write this, the records made clear that eric trump provided a misleading account of what his company was charging, to your point. so could there be any legal implications for family members? >> out of this, i haven't heard anybody say you could make a legal case against them for
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misrepresenting what they were saying to the public. in their official dealings with the secret service, all hidden until the records came out starting in 2020, they were honest about what they were charging. we don't have many rooms. there's a lot of demand. you will have to pay this rate of more than $1,000 a night. person to person, they weren't duping the secret service. they were misleading the public. that's not going to be a crime they will be prosecuted for. >> david, always good to have you on the program. her agenda gutted, her popularity plummeting. today british prime minister liz truss is in serious trouble. a little more than a month into her first term. two new polls show a majority of the british public and her own party want her out, literally turning her into a joke after the economists compared her unfavorably to a head of lettuce. "the daily star" picked that up posting a live link to a lettuce cam to see which has the longer shelf life, truss or the lettuce.
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there are even betting odds over which will last longer. in an attempt to save her job truss apologized in a bbc interview for heavily criticized economic policy that sent the markets tumbling. >> i recognize we have made mistakes. i'm sorry for those mistakes. but i fixed the mistakes. i've appoint add new chancellor. we have restored economic and fiscal discipline. i want to deliver for the public. >> it was truss' proposed tax cuts combined with a steep drop in the pound and unsteady market that upset many in parliament. for more i want to bring in sky news' wilfred frost. this is serious stuff. several calling for truss to be gone including opposition parties who want a general election and the question tonight, i guess, can she survive? >> reporter: i think, chris, now
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is a question of when she goes and not if. and, of course, in the meantime we have an unbelievably weak prime minister particularly when it comes to economic issues highlighted by all of those u-turns you mentioned. i think it's unlikely, however, there will be a full general election. the next one is scheduled december 2024. it would require conservative mps to vote for it and they're not going to do it when they're quite so far behind in the polls as they are right now. but she is very much at the mercy of her own mps, and for them the timing of all of this is a question of when would be the least humiliating for them as a party having, of course, just changed their previous prime minister through the same process by getting rid of boris johnson earlier in the summer on the very short term, chris, all eyes tomorrow on prime minister's questions in parliament where liz truss will have to face the labor leader and he's expected to really highlight how weak she is, how
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many u-turns she's done and, frankly, the fact she's lost her mandate. that might crystallize her own mps to move faster or small chance it might unify them a little bit. we'll see. >> small chance. you talk about the fact that they're going to highlight how weak she is but we've all watched from here on the other side of the pond just how those parliamentary gatherings can play out. what are you expecting to see tomorrow really? >> reporter: just yesterday we did see liz trust in parliament briefly but she was sitting silently, somewhat somber, somewhat humiliated behind her new finance minister who clearly stole the show and tore up her economic policies. tomorrow she's the one speaking. she's the one answering the questions. it's never been seen as one of her strengths, public speaking, she has to step up in just an
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unfathomably strong way to give herself any chance of regaining some kind of footing, some kind of respect not just from her own party, from the opposition and from the country. as i mentioned expectations aren't particularly high. >> wilfred frost, good to see you, my friend. thank you for that. russia's brutal attacks on civilians and critical infrastructure, what it means for ukraine's fight heading into the winter's freezing months is next. associated british ports can now precisely orchestrate nearly 600,000 vehicles passing through their uk port every year. don't just connect your business. right on time. make it even smarter. we call this enterprise intelligence. (vo) the older. the physically challenged. the last to be chosen. shelter dogs with special needs face a far longer road to adoption. but subaru knows even the toughest roads can lead to the most amazing places.
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russian attacks on critical ukrainian infrastructure have left the entire country bracing for blackouts. the president, vladimir zelenskyy, announced that recent attacks have already destroyed a third of the country's power grid leading parts of kyiv and other countries with no power or water. last night another brutal attack damaged power supplies and killed two people including a pregnant woman. i want to bring in cal perry and msnbc military analyst steph twitty. thank you both for being here. cal, this latest round of attacks looks devastating. what are you seeing on the ground there? >> reporter: deadly as well.
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at least three people killed in the capital city today. five yesterday. the death toll to at least eight people dead in 24 hours, dozens wounded. the targets are these energy infrastructure specifically the power generators. the power out for two reasons, one, the fear of future air strikes, two, trying to conserve power. turn off your lights or start breaking out the candles. the winter months are just around the corner. we see them continue to be fired in waves of dozens of rockets and drones at once. it seems clear the intention is to overwhelming the defense systems. we can see them as they go off. it's clear and you can hear the drones and, again, it is sending them in batches as an attempt to hit the targets. the other thing of note and we have continued to see this in what is an eight-day campaign by russia to drop as many ordnance as they can on the cities, we're
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seeing them miss targets. we know what the targets are they're trying to hit. they continuously miss and hit civilian arians. even if the russian army is in many ways inept or incompetent it doesn't make them any less deadly, chris. >> cal, thank you for your reporting there. general, this lack of power bringing misery and danger. the winter months are approaching which can escalate a desperate situation. is the west doing enough to help? >> obviously this is a strange in strategy. the russians have been unable to get it done on the ground. this change in strategy is to terrorize and break the will of the ukrainian people. what we have to do now, first of all, the ukrainians have stepped
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up to the plate with very good air defense systems, the s-300, the rst system that came out of germany and what we have to do from the west is provide them more systems and the pentagon is working towards that. nato is working towards that. it's going to take time to train the ukrainians and then take time to get the systems in. that's what the ukrainians will need more advanced air defense systems and radars to be able to counter this significant threat. >> general, the russian draft, meantime, has been chaotic at best. reports of little or even no training, lack of food, any semblance of organization, and now moscow, the city, has become the first place to end the unpopular mobilization of troops. they say they have enough people already, but could it be a sign putin is worried about the growing unrest among his people not just from the draft but,
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frankly, the number of russian soldiers coming home in body bags? >> yes, i would agree with you. it's also a sign of desperation. and so it is estimated that the russians have lost somewhere around 80,000 soldiers. that's either killed or wounded in action. and they're having a hard time making their numbers, the 300,000 he mentioned. a mass exodus of males left the country, plus you have moms and dads unwilling to sign their kids up and so he will have a hard time meeting these numbers. he's upping the ante with these attacks. he can't get it done on the ground. he's still in a bad place. >> the reverse of that with ukraine, and the importance of what is happening outside a determined ukrainian army.
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when the air raids sirens stopped on monday morning many people came out of their underground shelters and simply went to work and zelenskyy said the enemy can attack our cities but they won't be able to break us. how much does the resolve of the ukrainian people play into the success of the ukrainian military? >> this is the most fascinating thing that i've seen. the will not only of the ukrainian military but the will of the people. and that provides motivation for soldiers out there. as you know the ukrainians have a lot to fight for. first of all, they're fighting for their lives but they're also fighting for the ukrainian way of life. having them come out and try to get to some type of daily normalcy is a good thing for the
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country to see. that continue will to fight. >> steph twitty, so good to have you on the program. thank you, sir. appreciate it. shocking revelations in the oath keepers trial. what the group's leader was doing days before january 6th. and kevin spacey takes the stand. what he had to say in his own defense next. my brain. so i choose neuriva plus. unlike some others, neuriva plus is a multitasker supporting 6 key indicators of brain health. to help keep me sharp. neuriva: think bigger. she is fearless heart's on the line depend silhouette keeping leaks off her mind. comfortable in shapeware fabric
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for more let's bring in ryan riley who is at the courthouse, charles coleman is a former prosecutor. so, ryan, a juror this morning removed after testing positive for covid. testimony continued. what more did jurors hear about today? >> reporter: a lot more about what stewart rhodes was up to in the days before the attack, in addition to sending texts to the legal counsel for the oath keepers, he was buying a lot of weapons on his trip and prosecutors showed a map of all the stops he made along the way to load up on alm of these weapons as he was making his way to d.c. ahead of january 6th. i think what we heard recently there was a dual purpose to a lot of what the oath keepers were up to. people in the conservative world ahead of january 6th.
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of course we know about the relationship with roger stone and we know that they were providing security for latinos for trump, one of the organizations that is closely affiliated with the proud boys. there might be connections that have come under more scrutiny going forward here. essentially the fbi special agent was saying this does not have to be about a plot to attack the capitol. they can have this dual purpose and have been working security for various officials in addition to coming around this plot to oppose the peaceful transfer of power through force. so i think what we're looking for coming up this week is testimony from some of the cooperators. the government is about 60% of the way through its presentation here. >> charles, central is this allegation the oath keepers were assembling a quick reaction force, essentially an armed mob, located at a hotel across the river from d.c.
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the doj has been successful getting convictions for those who breached the capitol, but how much more difficult is it to prove a conspiracy case like this? >> the wider you go, the harder it gets. the whole point why prosecutors are approaching it the way that they are in terms of laying out the overall plan so that they can then help people understand how everything fits in, you have to start at the broadest 30,000-foot view and narrow in and zero in where each and every one of the defendants played a role and played a part trying to convict all of them at the same trial. it is much more difficult but i think the strategy we're seeing from the prosecution in this case is exactly on point.
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it's what you are supposed to do, how you actually tie everyone into the central plot. >> so let me ask you about one of the specifics, under cross-examination an fbi agent acknowledged that the group's stash of weapons was stored in virginia, was not brought to d.c. on january 6th, and soap the defense lawyer asked. the armed rebellion was unarmed and the fbi agent responded the armed rebellion wasn't over. does the government need to prove that an illegal act was taken or only that it was planned? >> there are different standards and in a case like this given the charges they have to go beyond mere preparation. it is a legal standard which said, oh, we had an idea of what it was but when you go beyond that and show the actual intent of what it was to take more
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steps into creating something that fit the plan you are alleging was part of the conspiracy, now you are getting to a big part of the actual act which is necessary in order to secure a conviction. the second piece to that, of course, intent. you establish intent in a case like this by laying out the plan so that you can see exactly where they were going, what they were trying to do together. that's how in a case like this the government will be able to establish a notion of conspiracy. i'm assuming that we still have ryan. ryan, i want to ask you -- no, we don't have ryan either? oh, we have charles back. go ahead, charles. >> i'm here. >> finish what you were saying. >> i was saying essentially you need both of those pieces. you need to be able to identify
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what steps beyond mere preparation the defendants took that fit in accordance with that plan so you can look for that convictional conspiracy. >> ryan, back to you for a second. what's the betting money on? will stewart rhodes take the stand? >> reporter: i think he will. he's done a media interview which his lawyers i don't think were happy with during the course of the trial. i think we will hear from him and will have an interesting defense essentially that he thought he was waiting on trump to invoke the insurrection act and thought he was doing everything he was doing would be legal under his interpretation of the insurrection act. >> isn't it generally believed, charles, the only way a defendant in a serious prosecution takes the stand is if you're really desperate, you think you're losing? but, ultimately, they're the ones whose future is on the line.
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you take the stand as a defense when you feel like i have nothing left to lose. you want to give yourself a puncher's chance to try to turn things around by taking the stand and somehow connect -- against trained professionals. these attorneys are willing and ready to actually pick you apart. it's usually not something attorneys recommend doing. if you see it occur it's because you have someone who just know this is is their last ditch effort. >> peel continue to watch it. thank you both, gentlemen. appreciate it. sobbing on the witness stand, disgraced actor kevin spacey, denied sexual misconduct allegations against him and recounted what he called his terrifying upbringing as the son of a neo-nazi. testifying in his own defense in a new york federal courtroom,
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