tonight on "the reidout" -- >> here's the promise i make to you and the american people. the first bill that i will send to the congress will be to codify roe v. wade. and when gres passes it, i'll sign it in january, 50 years after roe was first decided the law of the land. >> the republican spin is that voters only care about inflation. but what does the massive early voting tell us about reproductive rights as a motivating factor in this election? plus, the dramatic debate moments from last night in ohio, utah, and georgia as democrats hold republicans accountable for trump's big lie. >> and the scourge of dark money in our elections and why republicans are fighting so hard to prevent the exposure of their wealthy dark money donors. we begin tonight with president biden's message to young voters. biden is seeking to call up -- >> i want you to remember that

the final say does not rest in the court now. it does not rest with extremist republicans in congress. and finally say, finally say about your right to choose that it rests with you. and if you do your part and vote, democratic leaders in congress, i promise you we'll do our part. >> biden is seeking to call up an army of young voters for a simple reason. when younger americans vote in large numbers, democrats do well. voters aged 18 to 29 played a key role in the 2020 election with 50% of them turning out. and while which, okay, that's just half. it was a stunning 11 point increase from 2016 and the highest rate of voter participation in any election since the voting age was lowered to 18 in 1971. they tend to be dismissed by pollsters because they don't fit the model of who would turn out, likely voters. but lately, we have been getting

a lot of polls or snapshots or attitudes coming our way and sometimes it's hard to make sense of them all. take, for example, polls from fox news and "the new york times" and sienna college. all taken during about the same time. the exact same time, but saying opposite things. if you look at fox news, democrats have a three-point advantage on the generic congressional ballot. if you look at "the new york times" and sienna college poll, republicans have a four-point advantage. and if you look at the most recent morning consult poll, democrats, tah-dah, three-point advantage. one of these things is not like the other. all we can say for sure with all of those numbers coming at us is that things are close. very close. what you have to remember is that these polls aren't the answer. they aren't telling you what will happen. they are a snapshot of what could happen based on the way our representative slice of people said during a given three or four-day period. you know, we do not need to speculate about, the voting that is already under way. 2022 is already on track to be a

record-breaking midterm election. look at georgia, where early voting started yesterday. the secretary of state's office announced that more than 131,000 people have already cast their ballots. that is an 85% increase from the last midterm. and just a couple thousand votes shy of the first day of voting in the 2020 general election. to borrow a biden can locwe'llism, that is a bfd. there are more than two dozen states where early voting is under way right now with more states starting later this week. according to data analyzed by the university of florida's election project, more than 3 million people have already voted. and in states that track party affiliation, more democrats have voted early than republicans. it's also important to remember that we have already held a few elections since the dobbs decision on abortion. kansas voters turned out in record numbers and delivered a resounding victory for abortion

rights, which was mostly fueled by an uptick of new voters. almost least-quarter of them women. then new york's 19th congressionm district which was won by democrat pat ryan. a number of polls released prior to that special election and none, not one, had the democrat ahead. and not a single poll had anticipated the seven-point gender gap. joining me is white house press secretary karine jean-pierre. i have to ask you this. great to see you, as always. i wonder, so president biden came out and made this speech today talking about what the white house's policy and plans would be if democrats regain -- increase their margins in the united states senate and hold the house. but i wonder how the white house is thinking about abortion in this election. is it seen as a motivator? is it seen as something that frightens voters to the polls? and who is he targeting with that message of what the administration would do? >> so, joy, thank you so much for having me.

it's always a joy, joy, to be joining you in the evening. but i want to be really careful because of the hatch act. i can't speak to elections. i can't speak to politics from here, especially standing in front of the white house. but what i will say is, and the president has been very clear, you heard him speak directly to the american people. you have heard him say pretty much the same message every time he's talked about this issue. which is americans need to make their voices heard. we know, we know this, joy, that majority of americans did not agree, disagreed with scotus decision, unconscionable decision to take away roe. so we seen that in polling after polling after polling. the president has been very clear, in order to restore that right, in order to make sure that we codify roe, people have to get out there, and you have -- he's asking for

americans to give him a congress to make sure that we protect women's health. and that you have heard from him over and over again when he talks about protecting women's health care, protecting reproductive rights, and you'll continue to hear that from him. >> it's so weird when a white house official cares about the hatch act. we had four years where nobody cared about that. she cares about the hatch act, who are these people? >> we care. unlike the last administration, we do care about the hatch act here. >> it's refreshing and weird. let me ask you this about -- you and i both know, and you worked on campaigns, my friend. we worked on the same one, you at a much higher level. democrats are always freaking out. that's hot they do. democrats' thing is to freak out. i wonder inside the white house, because y'all are democrats, what is the level of pessimism versus optimism, not getting into hatch act issues. but how optimistic or

pessimistic is the administration and is the president when it comes to this election? >> so first of all, everyone's role is big on a campaign, joy, so just wanted to make sure i make that very, very clear. everyone is important in that regard. look, what the president is trying to do is trying to send a very clear message to the american people that there are critical choices in front of them. there is so much at stake right now, and if you look at what congressional democrats are putting forward, they're trying to deal with the economy, they're trying to deal with inflation. we put forward a pass into law, the inflation reduction act which is going to help 13 million people with their health care premiums, which is going to help our seniors cap their case on prescription drugs at $2,000 a year. seniors normally pay thousands and thousands of dollars a month. it's an investment to fight for our climate change and really lowering costs and energy costs. what you have congressional republicans trying to do,

they're saying that they will repeal all of that, that they want to take that away. they want to take away lowering costs on health care. they want to take away lowering costs on energy. because of their wealthy special interests. they have been very clear about this. not only that, they want to take it a step further and put medicare and social security on the chopping block. so you put that together with what's happening with these national abortion bans, coming out of the republicans in the senate, and the president says this all the time. if there is a national ban on abortion, just think about this, joy. it doesn't matter if you live in a red state, it doesn't matter if you live in a blue state. abortion will be illegal across the country. this is taking away people's freedoms. taking away people's rights, women's rights. and that is what we're talking about. so that's the message that the president wants to send very loud and clear. >> very quickly before we go, because you didn't answer my question. you're good. you're good, but you didn't

answer my question. optimistic or pessimistic? >> we have to have optimism. we do. we have to know there is going to be a better day and that we're doing the work that every day for the american people to make their lives better. we have to be optimistic. >> the white house press secretary, the great karine jean-pierre, thank you very much. appreciate it. thank you. let me turn now to simon rosenberg, democratic strategist and president of the new democrat network. i was talking to you about the same thing beforehand. you do have democrats are pessimistic by nature. i think it's because democrats are empathetic so they think all is lost. especially as we get close to an election. io were tweeting out today about that might be a bit of balderdash. they may be dooming themselves and the media might be. what do you mean? >> i'm optimistic about this election. six months ago if you told us we would be leading to keep the senate and in a toss-up to keep the house, we would have

bejoyful. and i think that's where the race is right now. we have a real shot to keep both chambers. we have to do the work and work hard and end strong, and i think what joe biden did today is helpful because i do think abortion is not just for the people who have been directly impacted by the ending of roe, but it's also, i think, become a gateway for to remind voters the anti-maga majority that voted in such large numbers in it last two elections about why they didn't vote for republicans the last two times. it's a symbol of their radicalization and extremism. i was in las vegas last week and met with the cortez masto campaign in nevada. they say when they go door to door, the issue that is burning more than anything else is abortion. and when people say is she pro-choice? if she's pro-choice, they say for her, the door shuts, over, go on and go with other people. we have to both, though, in our closing, to indict the republicans for being extremists and continue to make the case

for how we have made the country better. we can do both. >> the cortez masto race is interesting because it's one the media is doom scrolling, that's over, and i think about it, i think first, the polls, we'll throw up one poll, the morning consult poll. it has democrats more enthusiastic than republicans. every person i know who is either an independent or a democrat is hopping mad about abortion. it's all that they talk about because they think i'm not sending my kid to a southern state to go to school or to spring break in florida. god forbid the worst happened to them, they get pregnant or raped, i don't want to be caught in that situation. a lot of men who feel that way, too. that to me doesn't poll. you don't catch that in a poll. talk about that and about the younger voters because younger voters are very hard to poll, and i feel like if you just isolated them, even in a sienna poll, if it was just young voters, democrats would win. but it's generation x, unfortunately, and some of the other voters that change it. >> we have lots of data to

evaluate politics and elections and the most important is how people vote. more important than polling. as you said in your introduction, we have five house specials since roe ended, and our average margin above 2020 was seven points. we outperformed our 2020 numbers by seven points in those five races. in kansas it was even more. so that's a clear example of how motivated people are, and as you mentioned the morning consult poll, not only did they find democrats five points more enthusiastic to vote, but the number was rising and growing. and as we saw in georgia last night, people are fired up and ready to go. i mean, this is going to be a high turnout election on both sides. and we know the republicans are motivated, but the media has painted this picture that somehow democrats aren't motivated. it's crazy. the democrats are highly motivated. our candidates have much more money than the republican candidates do because the grassroots, the democratic party, and how engaged they have been. and i think the sign that we saw in georgia last night and yesterday is a great sign for

how we could see a record turnout in this election. >> let's talk about georgia. >> a high turnout benefits us. >> high turnouts are almost always democrats do well. republicans tend to do well in low turnout elections and usually older whiter voters who vote for them. georgia is interesting because what i'm hearing on the ground from folks is that it puts the lie to the idea that democrats aren't interested and black voters aren't voting because there is this narrative people are trying to put out that black voters aren't interested but what i'm hearing on the ground is black voters are in that huge surge of early voters and it's democrats who tend to vote early. >> we have data on this. the black vote is up in the first day from 2018 and 2020. it's higher, a higher percentage of the electorate, which means, yes, black voters are motivated in georgia right now. so listen, i think this is a jump ball election. we just have to do everything we can here. we have to stop -- the polls have gotten crazy. it's gotten crazy. you did a great job in the

introduction. a majority, i want to make sure the viewers know, a majority of the polls in the last ten days have us up two, three, four points. >> the media says that means democrats are going to lose. >> and the conventional wisdom is if we're up two to three, we have a shot of keeping the house. if you look at the cbs model, we're at 214 in the house. the fox poll a few weeks ago had us keeping the house. it just means we know we're on the hunt here. we have to stay upbeat and optimistic and fight like hell. >> a turnout game, at this point, having worked in a couple election, all that matters now is turnout, simon, you worked for the great sergio. >> coming up, there battle over women's rights and reproductive rights is the focus of shouting down midnight, the first installment in the new documentary series, the turning point, from executive producer trevor noah, the film shines a light on former texas state senator wendy davis who stood up against her state's 2013

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i have to have consags with the entirety of georgia. i don't have the luxury of being

a part of a good old boys club where we don't focus on the needs of the people. >> jd, you keep talking about nancy pelosi. if you want to run against nabsy pelosi, move back to san francisco and run against nancy pelosi. you're running against me. >> ouch. plenty of fireworks at debates with the midterm elections just three short weeks away. a battle of candidates who believe in democracy versus maga republicans. first up, ohio senate race where democrat tim ryan once again shut down maga hedge funder jd vance. >> you were calling trump america's hitler. then you kissed his ass. >> not true. >> it is true. then you kissed his ass, and he endorsed you and you said he's the greatest president of all time. it's nothing personal. i'm telling you, i have been in this business. it's tough business. if you think you're going to help ohio, you're not. if you can't even stand up for yourself, how are you going to stand up for the people of this state? >> in utah, independent u.s.

senate candidate evan mcmullin just literally torched incumbent republican mike lee. >> for you to talk about the importance of the electoral college i think is rich. you know exactly how important it is. and i think you knew how important it was when you sought to urge the white house that had lost an election to find fake electors to overturn the will of the people. senator lee, that was the most egregious betrayal of our nation's constitution in its history by a u.s. senator, i believe, and it will be your legacy. you were there to stand up for our constitution, but when the barbarians were at the gate, you were happy to let them in. >> there were people who behaved very badly on that day. i was not one of them. i was one of the people trying to dismantle this situation, trying to stop it from happening. because i believe in this document. >> senator lee has been doing this thing with his pocket constitution for the last several years. senator lee, it is not a prop. it is not a prop.

>> like it was a fake badge. it's not just senate races. in georgia, marcus blowers, he straight up called out qanon congressman marjorie taylor. >> did joe biden win the election, congresswoman green? >> joe biden is the president of the united states. >> absolutely, but you pushed a big lie that said he did not win the election. >> there was election fraud that was proven. there was election fraud -- >> with your lies. >> we're going to move on. josh, it's your turn to ask a question. >> joining me now is kurt bardella, adviser to the dccc and contributor to the los angeles times and usa today. it was smoker last night. let me do one. jd vance keeps getting the business. tim ryan is something else. here he is calling out jd vance when he lied and tried to say he never said that alex jones is a more credible source of news than our very own beloved rachel

maddow. here's tim ryan giving him the business. >> we are running for the united states senate. this is the highest office you could get in this country except for president. and he's running around backing these extremists. the most extreme people in the country, a guy who denied sandy hook. >> it's maddening. >> this is a complete fabrication. >> jd, you're on tape, brother. >> we can talk about how i got in hot water with my -- with saying alex jones was a more credible source of information than rachel maddow, but one of the things i saw in the reaction to that tweet was people are terrified of unconventional people. >> mr. bardella, your witness. >> unconventional people. boy, i bet alex is going to be hitting him up for money soon. i think he's got a billion dollars worth of legal bills he has to pay out soon. come on. >> the thing about it is the incentives in the primary

process for republicans are to run as far to the maga right as they can. but then they own that when they have to run in the general election. so now jd vance who wants to be super maga and wants to be like alex jones is the best, and women should stay in abusive relationships, it doesn't matter if you're getting punched out. now he wants to say, i agree on abortion exceptions. here he is on abortion. here's jd vance. >> an incest exception looks different at three weeks of pregnancy versus 39 weeks of pregnancy. i actually don't think you can say on a debate stage every single thing that you're going to vote for when it comes to an abortion piece of legislation. my principles here are i want to save as many lives as possible, and i would love to get us to a country where young women don't feel pressured by boyfriends, by family, to have abortions, where adoption services are available, and where young women can get access to the health care they need to have babies. >> they need to have babies.

39-week abortions. that's not a thing. pregnanies normally last 41, 42 weeks. the idea that republicans keep putting up that somehow women are getting to 39 weeks, which is like three weeks or two weeks maybe even one week before they're having a baby and being like, i think i'm going to have an abortion. it's ridiculous but they keep saying it. they keep saying it because no one stops them. >> the one thing we have seen in the abortion debate is most of these white republican men have no idea how a baby is actually made. >> do they know how to make a baby? and he has kids. >> i would love to see what his take is on herschel walker, by the way, paying for abortions. be that as it may, tim ryan, i have to say, has put on a clinic in terms of how to debate, how to deal with these maga republicans, how to expose these maga republicans who in the primary, they're all about donald trump. the minute the primary ends, they're scrubbing their website to pretend like that primary didn't happen and tim ryan is having none of it, and that's

the playbook for how every democrat running should be running their campaign. >> here's the thing, he is doing an excellent job. he's running the best campaign in the country to be honest with you. the race in utah, evan mcmullin running an excellent campaign. but in both of those cases and in the case of cortez masto who is ahead in many cases or tied, the conventional wisdom is they're all going to lose. no matter what tim ryan does, there's no way to win. i don't understand that because there's a democratic senator in place right now in ohio. democrats can win because sherrod brown does. what do you think is behind this conventional wisdom that these candidates who are running really solid campaigns, they're just written off as they can't win? >> know what i hate about conventional wisdom? it's wrong so often, particularly in washington, d.c. the amount of times we have seen conventional wisdom tell us that something was going to happen and the exact opposite is exhaustive at this point. they're so afraid, the media, to actually take a stand and put themselves out there, make a

prediction, that getting it wrong, they're afraid of that blowback and looking like they lost credibility. it's like herd mentality at this point. they have no idea what's going to happen on election night, frankly. and i think that we're doing to get to election night and there will be a son of surprises like there has been in every election now since 2016. the conventional wisdom has never held. >> they're going by history, and i think the other thing is, you having previously been a republican, republicans are always optimistic and think we're never going to lose. i have never met a republican who thinks they're going to lose. then you look at the polls, too, where people are saying they're comfortable. they're telling pollsters in this "new york times" sienna poll which is freaking out democrats right now, 12% of democrats are saying we're comfortable with voting for an election denier. all that matters is who is voting. what are you hearing on the ground in terms of -- what i'm hearing is younger people, people of color, asian americans, african americans, younger people are voting and women are voting like crazy.

>> when you see some of the turnout numbers and the massive turnout we're seeing already in early voting that dwarfs what we saw, that tells me something is happening on the ground that the pollsters and the punditry -- >> that's the only poll that matters. >> the only poll that matters the one when voter starts and we're winning that right now. i believe that's going to keep holding. i think there's so much that's going to happen that doesn't show up in these polls, that doesn't show up in the mainstream media chatter, and people are going to wonder, we never saw it coming. you can see that coming right now. >> it's hard, and we have to bring it to an end, but it's very difficult to prognosticate what is going to happen because humans are so unpredictable. but here's the thing, the day after some of these debates, people can vote right then and there. so their snap decision like the one they gave the pollster, they can make the snap decision actually at the polls. >> and here's what we do now. we had an election so far in alaska, new york, kansas, and each one of those, our turnout

was through the freaking roof. our thooum was through the roof. none of that was picked up in polling beforehand. that's the only hard data we actually have in terms of elections after roe was overturned. >> two things drive voters. enthusiasm and excitement and anger. and what i'm seeing and hearing out there is anger about the thing we talked to eric swalwell about last night, abortion. kurt bardella, thank you. up next on "the reidout," record setting early voting as we just mentioned is one very positive sign for democrats in this critical election midterm. election season. another is the historic, historic year of black women candidates. and they are all over the ballot. we're going to talk about that next. power e*trade's award-winning trading app makes trading easier. with its customizable options chain, easy-to-use tools, and paper trading to help sharpen your skills, you can stay on top of the market from wherever you are.

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are running in competitive races in what could be a barrier breaker midterm election. yamiche alcindor sat down with some of these women. >> we're doing what we have always done for this nation. and that's rise up to make a difference. >> we are enduring and we can get through anything, and we can do anything. >> black women have always been capable of leading. >> they're black women chasing history. a record number of candidates this year hoping to shatter double-paned glass ceilings and overcome challenges related to race and gender. in florida, democrat val demings if elected would be just the third black woman senator. >> there are currently no black women serving in the u.s. senate. what's the significance of that? >> it should reflect the diversity of america. when we think about the talent, the skills, the strength of black women, we bring not only diversity in terms of our ethnic background, but we bring a

diversity of perspectives and experiences. >> she's in an uphill battle to destreet republican senator marco rubio. and argues she would work to protect abortion rights, provide adequate policing for communities, and make investments in education. >> we need to hold america to its promise in addressing some of the social ills that cause decay in communities in the first place. >> black women make up a small number of elected officials. vice president kamala harris, the highest ranking. >> the duties of the office upon which i am about to enter. >> so help me god. >> so help me god. >> now, a historic number of them are running for national office. 56 women seeks house seats. four running for u.s. senate and three running for governor. among them, democrat stacey abrams in georgia, and deirdre dejear in iowa. both facing tough odds to become the first black woman elected governor. >> and black women are often called the heart of the democratic party. what do you want to see in their

roles in terms of change, in terms of more support when it comes to running for office? >> what i would like for people to consider when they're trying to support communities of color and black women and running for office is that this is not a bet. this is a commitment. >> and while the majority of black women running are democrats there has been an increase in diversity in the republican party too. gop candidate tamika hamilton who is running for congress in sacramento, california, is thinking about all of the people who blazed a trail for her and others. >> i am a candidate for the presidency of the united states. >> you know, our ancestors did not go through what they went through for us to give up. >> what's your message to black women who may be watching this saying i'm inspired but i'm also nervous. >> keep going, don't let anybody tell you you can't do it. don't let your fears tell you you can't do it. don't stop. >> and joining me is the great yamiche alcindor. and hero of the journalism game, my sister. let me ask you this, we're going

to put it up on stage. on the screen. val demings, sherry beasley, natalie james and crystal matthews are all running for united states senate. florida, north carolina, arkansas, south carolina. in georgia, iowa, and alabama, stacey abrams, deirdre dejear, and flowers running for governor. democrats could not win without black women. black women turn out at 96% for democrats and vote at the highest percentage rate of any group of americans. >> yep. >> but i wonder if the presence of a black woman candidate for state-wide office is impacting black womens' enthusiasm and is that just marginal because it's already high? >> it's a great question. i think in some ways it's marginal because black women are already really hitting the top numbers when it comes to voter turnout, when it comes to enthusiasm, and also, black women when i talk to them, they're used to showing up for a party at times like the democrats at times that don't have them on the ballot. when i talk to these women and voters they say we love this movement of black women showing

up and running for office, but they're also saying at the end of the day, is it going to help val deming make a bit of difference, the two or three percent to beat marco rubio, i'm not sure. but in talking to the candidates, this doubling-paned glass ceiling i described, the twin challenge of misogyny and racism that black women face when they're running for office is real. you have people who doubt black women. voters who say are we going to have a black woman who is a governor of the state. that impacts the millions and millions of dollars you need to run successfully, and then the racism. when you think about someone like kamala harris, she faced birtherism 2.0. we talk a lot about president obama, but there are people who are saying this woman who is an american citizen, is she eligible to be the vp, and even in iowa, i had critics who said governor kim reynolds, she's running ads against deirdre dejear, but they're featuring cori bush talking about defunding the police. there are some saying okay, if

you're going to attack a black woman, why are you using another black woman to do that? they say black women face the unique challenge of being lumped together, of having racially charged ads going after them. so there's all that going on. but it's a good question. >> for black voters in general, particularly young and black male voters, and i don't know it's true because most black men also vote for democrats, but is there an impact for black men, too? >> that's where the democratic party needs to do their most work. black men are not turning out in the numbers that democrats would want them to. then you have the kanye west factor, some black men that are more interested in the sort of power and the message of trump and sort of the idea of this sort of machismo that's taken over at times in the gop party. so you have some black men who are more conservative than black women and that's impacting democrats' ability to win as well. >> i will note when people make that criticism of black men, they still overwhelmingly vote for democrats, 89%, 90%, which is a lot.

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oral arguments in its december session. which includes a case that could threaten our democracy and the very idea of free and fair elections as we know them. the case moore v. harper could ultimately grant state legislatures unconditional control over federal elections with no possible interference from state courts. meaning republican controlled state legislatures could pass voter restrictions and gerrymandered state maps with impunity. we have seen unprecedented rulings from the supreme court including the repeal of roe v. wade. sheldon whitehus has been ringing the alarm bells for years over not just the actions of this supreme court but by the right wing forces that have funded the dark money to get some of these justices on the bench. in his new book, the scheme, how the right wing used dark money to capture the supreme court, he writes, we're in a crisis of judicial legitimacy, a five-alarm fire fueled and stoked by anti-government

billionaires whose antidemocratic, anticonsumer, antiworker, antiwoman agenda is becoming increasingly hard to hide. now that they have six justices, they don't need to hide much. joining me is sheldon whitehouse of rhode island. thank you for saying it that way, writing it that way, because i think people see abortion as the be all and end all of these religious right-wing justices. they are religious fanatics in my opinion. but it tends to cover up their other agenda which is really pro-corporate, pro-wealth. your thoughts. >> if you look at dobbs, it's obviously a really flagrant decision and very hard to justify. but then you look at the decisions that hurt regulators to help polluters and the decisions like shelby county that attacks voting rights of minority populations, and then you look at the dark money cases like citizens united and afpf and you add the whole portfolio,

and we have counted over 80 cases that are partisan, that have a big republican donor interest involved, and where the big republican donor interest won. by like 80-0. a complete route. it's not just dobbs. >> and how do -- first of all, who are some of these billionaires that are funding this that are putting the dark money through? and how do they know that they're going to get a justice that will do their bidding? >> well, it's hard to know because they do a very good job of hiding their identities through 501 c 3s, 501(c)(4)s, through donors, trusts, a lot can be traced back to the koch brothers political operation. recently a huge donation out of the operation was traced back to a right-wing billionaire who was the primary funder of the climate denial organization heartland institute. a really classy group that

compared climate scientists to the unabomber, to give you an idea. so i think the important thing that i try to point out in this book is that this didn't just happen. this was done. and if you look at familiar concepts to people like regulatory capture, how regulatory agency gets taken over by industry, or frankly covert intelligence operations overseas, you begin to understand the scale and the method of what was done here. and by the way, no small thing. they spent over half a billion dollars accomplishing this. >> yeah, and let me talk quickld leo. this is a man, this is what he wants, his wish list. restricting abortion rights in the states. ending affirmative action. defending religious groups accused of discriminating

against lgbtq people. opposing what he sees a liberal policies. andy electing a republicans everywhere and fighting democratic effort to slow climate change and anything about exposing the money in politics. how did he get so powerful and how much should we worry about his influence? >> it started years ago when he knocked out harriet myers for the supreme court and installed samuel alito. very powerful right-wing donors that forced president bush to change who is nominee was, and then of course under trump he was behind a so-called federalist society lets that help trump or told trump to which individuals to put on. he did this on behalf of big dark money donors. he is the spider if you will at the center of this dark money web that he is been leaving for years and years, and he's built up a lot of credibility with

creepy right-wing billionaires because he's been able to succeed where other political efforts have failed. >> is there any way to stop this court from implementing this agenda? in your view is expanding the court the answer? >> i think the first thing we need to do is get a lot more transparency at the court. i've already filed legislation to put the justices under term limits. i think the key though is to help the american people understand what took place at the court and why these bizarre decisions are coming out. once you've made the case to the american people for what the problem is at the court, and i think they'll be more amenable to a broader range of solutions. but like any good lawyer, make your case and that's what i try to do in this book. >> the book is out today. i think it's really important that people understand as you said how we got to this place. you are the best at this, and we love having you on because

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faced a legal peril that donald trump faces right now. let's not forget the alleged sexual mucks conduct a dog his presidency early on in which trump has yet to be fully hold accountable for. at least 25 women have accused trump of rake or sexual harassment. trump has denied the allegations but will have to face one. once the case avicii carole a writer who said the trump raped her in the mid 1990s, in a dressing room at the bergdorf department store in new york. here's carroll describing the moment trump entered that dressing room.

back when i interviewed her in 2019. >> so i walked in right in front and he shut the door and bank red against the wall. >> so immediately upon walking and he attacked you? >> right against the wall. like, i'm just gonna love kissing this guy. >> trump is scheduled to sit for a deposition tomorrow in a federal defamation lawsuit brought by miss carroll alleges that trump defamed her when he accused her of lying while trying to sell a book. trump also said about this coral quote, she's not my type, a deal lure distinctly trumpian form of misogyny, where a rape was treated as a form of dating, as rather than a gross opportunistic form of violence. you all suggested these women were not attractive enough for assault. >> take a look. you take a look. look at her, look at her words. you tell me what you think. i don't think so, i don't. >> when you looked at that horrible woman last night, he said i don't think so.

he went after me on the plane. yeah, i mean you go after her on the plane. believe me, she would not be my first choice, that i would tell you. you don't know, that would not be my first choice. >> somebody explain to trump that rape is never been about sex full stop. it is about power. and as we know from the access hollywood tape that should've sunk his campaign in 2016, trump enjoyed the power, that is rich famous man he felt he could do anything. that may not be the case anymore. as e. jean carroll intends to sue trump a new york court under the adult survivors act, a new law that lifted the statute of limitations on claims of rape and sexual abuse in this day. good luck with that donald. that's tonight's read out. all in with chris a starts now. altonight on all in. 21 days to