of these medical burdens? we're also asking all the people who have to enforce the bans. are they going to investigate every miscarriage? are they going to investigate every septic case? investigate the real good judgment of so many providers who are really just trying to provide the best care for their patients? this is what dobbs has wrought, and i really do believe that come election day, people need to take these stories into consideration. >> yeah, you can imagine a ron desantis this policing task force knocking on the door with bulletproof s to ask voters who had a miscarriage some questions about what happened. that is not an inconceivable universe that with this. alexis mcgill johnson, thank you very much. unconceivable, alexis. thank you very much. >> thank you, chris. >> that is all in on this tuesday night, "alex wagner tonight" starts tonight. good evening, alex. >> good evening, chris, i think you're right the way ron desantis is using people as

pawns. >> everyone should watch that video tonight. everyone should watch it. it tells you the whole story. >> and we'll be playing some of it in this hour. >> good, it bears repeating. >> it does. >> thanks to you, chris. and thanks you all at home in just a few minutes i'll be joined live on set by representative pramila jayapal. chair of the congressional caucus. just three weeks left before the midterms. first, during his second half of his presidency, every since he's been out of office, donald trump is obsessed with a man named bull durham. >> i look forward to durham's report. >> whapd to durham? where's durham? by the way, where's durham, he disappeared. >> trump was obsessed with a man

called john durham, who he called bull durham. because he was convinced that the whole investigation was a hoax. exactly as trump would say, justice was coming, it was just around the corner. john durham had been hand-picked by trump's attorney general bill barr for expressly that purpose. and durham was going to blow the lid off the whole russia hoax conspiracy. people were going to go to jail, people like hillary clinton, joe biden, barack obama were all going to jail. they were going to be locked up. and john durham produced nothing. not for lack of trying. trump's attorney general bill barr put so much pressure on durham that durham's top aide resigned, rather than be part of a political investigation.

john durham did manage to get one guilty plea from a single fbi agent on a tinele tangential charge with probation. when that happened with probation, senator lindsey graham, the chair of the committee he proclaims, quote, the wheels of justice are turning. and he added, quote, more to come. more to come. earlier this year, nearly three years after john durham started investigating, donald trump said durham was close to exposing the crime of the century. a few months later, john durham finally brought a case to trial. but it wasn't to charge the members of the obama administration or the fbi of doing dastardly things to donald trump. durham launched a charge, extremely tenuous charge of lying to the fbi. not the fbi lying, the fbi being

lied to. as if the fbi was the victim in all of this. it took a jury just six hours to unanimously acquit that lawyer of any wrongdoing. john durham finally had his moment in court, and he lost badly. the jury forewoman told the reporters outside the courthouse back then, quote, i think we could have spent our time more wisely. well, today, john durham's second and likely final prosecution ended. and you know what, he did slightly better. this time, it took the jury a whole nine hours rather than six, to fully acquit durham's target of all four charges against him. spare a moment to marvel how astonishing this is, even just statistically, federal prosecutors almost never lose cases when they go to trial. their success rate is over 80%. and yet john durham managed not

just to lose, but to lose twice. the other remarkable thing about his latest trial is that john -- not that john durham lost, but the defense didn't call any witnesses, not one, because they didn't need to. the durham charged the defendant in pass case, igor venn chenco of lying to the fbi. side note, again, the fbi was lied to here which is quite the opposite of the fbi lying. anyway, during the trial, durham's own fbi witnesses testified to his truthfulness. durham's own witnesses. in fact, they said that igor was a model informant who aided in dozens of investigations and they said losing dan chenco as an informant, why? because trump's attorney general

bill barr made that happen. barr handed over documents to who else, the wheels of justice are turning, senator lindsey graham. and then the identity was revealed. it was senator graham who said the wheels of justice were turning and that there was more to come from the durham investigation. turns out the more to come part was a revelation, and had nothing. in the investigation that was supposedly uncovering the crime of the century ended today not with a bang, but with a witcher. or perhaps a sad trombone. joining us now is matt miller, former chief spokesman for the justice department in the obama administration. matt, thanks so much for being with me tonight. >> thanks for having me. >> so, there's a lot to unpack here, but what stuck out to me, and i'm sure you got a sense of it in the beginning of the segment is that the charges that he filed all actually ended up

painting the fbi as a victim. now, setting aside the fact that the defendants were acquitted on all of these charges, the idea that the fbi was part of an conspiratorial web to undermine the trump administration was not even something that john durham tried to prove in court. >> yeah, that was the big takeaway, when you look at the investigation, it was bill barr trying to prove what donald trump had claimed. the political investigation started because of bias against the fbi and he was the witch hunt, that was the reason that the investigation begun in the first place. despite that the justice department and department of justice investigated the claims and found no proof in them. and the fact that barr never tried to sustain that case let alone be successful in court. all of these charges were the fbi being lied to. not the fbi lying about donald trump. it was, i think, from the

beginning, an investigation that was copy stood up to pursue conspiracy theorys. you can pursue conspiracy theories in the right wing media, or out in public, but you have to prove them in court if you work for the justice department and john durham was never able to have sufficient evidence to even bring a charge to court. >> ironically, the only group that was damaged was national security, because we lost igor dan chenco as a model informant? >> yeah, that goes to the dereliction of duty that we saw from bill barr as a.g., where he constantly put the interests of donald trump, ahead of the justice department and the final days in office when he couldn't do any more for donald trump and he quit. right up until then, it was the way he behaved. constantly ignoring the advice of officials, constantly

overturning their recommendations to take action that would benefit the former president even if they were wildly inconsistent with department of justice and the united states. >> is this over now, matt? the grand jury has been excused, it sounds like, in all of this. has john durham's handiwork -- has it come to a close? >> well, his cases are over. i think it's pretty clear, he's not going to bring any more charges. one. environments under the regulations is that they write a confidential report and submit it to the attorney general. and the attorney general makes a decision whether or not to release that report to the public. i think merrick garland will be under pressure from americans to release that report but i have to say this circumstance is very different from the mueller investigation where obviously, the attorney general bill barr did release that report. and it's different, because in that case, the subject of that investigation could not be charged. so it was appropriate for the don't make its finding public so

congress could decide whether to impeach and convict the then sitting president. that's not the case here. so to release a report in this instance, given what we know abdur abdurham, and the poor judgments made bringing the charges. to release the report publicly and let him have the final word would probably tarnish people at the fbi that we know that he olds ill-will to based on some things he said in the recent trial so i think the attorney general would be wise to take a pause before releasing that report. maybe let another senior official at the justice department review it and decide whether or not john durham has the final word on the investigation. >> do you think that merrick garland can do that, though, matt? i mean, given the enormous amount of scrutiny that the doj is under in terms of the investigation into january 6th,

and mar-a-lago, how is it even going to be a choice for merrick garland, because of the pressure on him because of the right wing calling for transparency? >> well, he can ignore the pressure if he wants to ignore it. what he wouldn't be able to ignore is a subpoena from congress. so if the house does change hands, they would undoubtedly send a subpoena for this report. lots of time in the past, there's ample press for this, when reports have been written by the justice department. john durham doesn't get to be the final -- to be the final arbiter of what the justice department believes. so it would be inappropriate for merrick garland to either review it or come up with his conclusions or maybe more appropriately refer to the senior career official as has been done in the past and let that individual review and decide whether he believes the conclusions john durham has drawn, conclusions rejected by

juries are the conclusions of the justice department and in its considered wisdom actually agrees with and healths stand for the public. >> i've got to say, the election was not dprud lent. john durham found nothing. there is no witch hunt, and get all of those claims have been debunked by trump and his allies. where does this leave us politically? do you think trump's going to be talking abdurham? are we still going to be hearing about the durham investigation on fox news? i just wonder in this day and age, how much veracity truly matters when you talk about the republicans' political football? >> i'm sure they'll don't talk about it. the thing about conspiracy those are, you can never believe them wrong to people who want to believe them. that's what made this so cynical in the first place. it ultimately doesn't matter to

some extent what john durham -- of course, it matters to people paying attention and want to find the actual facts and believe in the truth. you can't take back all of the fox news segments that ran in the past years. you can't take back the thousands of news stories run by the right wing medial that advance this lie that the mueller investigation was founded on bias and didn't find anything. so to some extent, even though durham didn't prove anything, it set out to do what the justice department set out to do and that is to smear the fbi and the very good work they did in the russian investigation and the findings and convictions they won in federal court. >> one last question for you, matt. a subject of perennial interest. the dossier. most people say it's been discredited to some degree. we just found one of the primary sources for it, igor danchenco

had sterling credentials. is there anything in the steele dossier? >> i think there's things in the steele dossier that have proven not to be true. but the steele dossier ultimately was irrelevant to what the fbi did. it wasn't the reason the fbi started its investigation. and it ultimately was irrelevant to any of the findings that mueller found that made its way into the public report or the number of charges in the president's orbit. while the steele dossier made for sensational reading, ultimately, it was in what the justice department founding the former tread. >> thanks for your time. >> thanks, alex. we have much more to get here on this busy tuesday. up next when kevin mccarthy tells reporters about all of the programs he wants to cut if he

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♪♪ this is what house republicans are calling their commitment to america. an economy that's strong, a nation that's safe, a future that's built on freedom, and a golf that's accountable. those vague platitudes are what

the house republican caucus rolled out as a platform last time. the fine commitment to america plan doesn't have anything much else in it. some parts are a little more specific, like ensuring that congress will ensure only people to compete in women's sports or saying they'll protect the lives. unborn children. even that then, the platform doesn't explain how they plan to do any of that if republicans take the house next month. if you look at what they're saying, they're quite clear and their plans are very dark. back in 2011, republicans used the threat of collapse as part of their negotiations with president obama. and now republicans are trying to do it all owe again. today in punchbowl news, republican kevin mccarthy said if republicans take control of the house, he's planning to u.s. the ut debt hostage to fine off on policy changes, quote, we'll

provide you more money, but you've got to change your current behavior. mccarthy was wide up to deflect when asked specifically what he had in mind for the spending cuts but the four top in the house have been up front. all four of them told bloomberg that they plan to use this debt crisis hostage technique to get things like social security and work requirements for safety nets like the s.n.a.p. food program. raising the eligibility age for social security and medicare and restricting access to food for the country's most impoverished people those are all deeply unpopular ideas. but the theory here is that does not matter. republicans say if they take the house, they will give them an option, cut global options and destroy the economy on purpose. it's totally bonkers but real and they're saying out loud exactly what they plan to do if

they take power and everyone should start listening. in the same interview mccarthy foreshadowed that ukrainian military aid may also be at stake, saying, quote, it can't be a blank check. as it fights off an invasion from vladimir putin's russia, that drew the following response from liz cheney this evening. >> i don't know that i can say i was surprised, but, i think it's really disgraceful that today, minority leader mccarthy suggested that if republicans get the majority back, that we will not continue to provide support for the ukrainians. >> disgraceful, maybe, but not exactly surprising. early last year, congresswoman marjorie taylor greene was kicked off of her assignments on the house for spreading violent

conspiracy theory. mccarthy has said not to just give back marjorie taylor greene her assignments but give her back better assignments. the top republican member on the house armed services committee said he plans to hold investigations on the u.s. withdrawal from afghanistan. the top republican on the house oversight committee wants to open a national security investigation into hunter biden. he also wants to open an investigation into anthony fauci for some reason. the republican plan for congress, at least while joe biden is president to turn it into a zoo. a zoo with an active economic hostage crisis where nothing can really get done. republicans know they can't really outlaw abortion. president biden said he'd veto it. they know they can't do all sorts of things but they would

have the power of the purse and the plan is going to be to sow chaos. joining us congresswoman pramila jayapal. >> it's dark, but it's great to be with you. >> i know democrats have been running ahead of these midterms on a message of what joe biden has done broadly in terms of jobs in the economy and the threat that women are facing -- or families are facing everywhere, in terms of reproductive choice. do you think democrats have painted a strong enough picture of the chaos that awaits in november and beyond if republicans take back the house? >> well, i think we're finding out every day more and more of the chaos that they will create. because they're putting it on the table, like you said, they're not hiding it. we will see more investigations like durham's investigation. we will see the justice department politicized. we will see all of the programs

that really matter to people across the country, particularly at this moment when people are still struggling with the high cost of living. cutting social security and medicare, two of the most popular programs in the country, and having a party that is really about saying no to the american people. using congress as a hostage site. which is what he's talking about. and we've seen this over and over again. you know, when democrats have been in power, we have voted to raise the debt ceiling. >> uh-huh. >> and we haven't tied it to policy because we understand that the desire country needs the debt ceiling to be raised. for kevin mccarthy to be saying so clearly that he plans to hold everything hostage, to put politics over people, and to be a party that is controlled by extreme mega republics has got to be the message. >> yeah, i remember in 2018 there was a lot happening in terms of impeachment, when you went across the important districts across the house and

the message was quite good. democrats were talking about the aca, they were talking about pre-existing conditions. they weren't talking about other things that would be more prettily expedient, and it worked. that doesn't seem to be the message that democrats are using right now. is there time to change it in the remaining weeks? and also why does kevin mccarthy think that this message works? why do republicans think they can talk about slashing social security and medicare and not lose politically? >> well, they lost talking about health care and people were saying, you're talking about crazy things. we're not going to vote for you, we're going to vote for our economic interests. i think now, they've been taken over. they're the party of big lies. they're the party of donald trump. they're the party of people who do not identify with even liz cheney. i mean, it's crazy now. but i think we are talking about it, we're talking about it in a

slightly different way. freedom is on the ballot. right to vote, freedom on the ballot, freedom for our democracy is on the ballot. so i think we are -- you can't -- it's a very diverse set of things that people care about right now. so, you have to focus on economics. because that's always one of the key things. >> yeah. >> that people are focusing on. we've got a high cost of living right now. we've got global inflation rates that are still high. people are thinking about that. we've got to focus on abortion because we know it is a driver for people across this country, particularly women, and we've got to focus on our democracy. and i think that's kind of the way we've been looking at it. but they're letting us show them, show the american people, the chaos they will create, and the fact they're not interested in helping people have better lives. >> can i ask you about the threat of democracy, because there's new polling out today that says 71% of respondents let's call them generically

american, that believe that american democracy is currently under threat. but at the same time, almost 40% of them said they would be comfortable voting for a candidate who says that the 2020 leebz was stolen. what does that tell you? >> it's a really tough environment. the problem is -- i mean, we're talking about fascism at our door. and unfortunately across this country, what we're dealing with, people don't believe the truth. i mean, they've been sold lies all the time. there isn't a premium placed on it by political candidates. i was at an event last night and somebody said how do you get people to actually tell the truth on television. i said this is the challenge. there are people, unfortunately, sold a bill of goods. and that's the 40% who feel that maybe it's something i heard that's true when it's not. it doesn't matter, alex, we've

got 60% of the country that is still clear about what the threats are in front of us. and we only have to win 51% in all of these places. >> yeah. >> so, i just came from georgia, i was in michigan, minnesota, i'm going to new mexico. >> you're everywhere? >> everywhere. rural areas, i'm on college campuses. and what i can tell you is that people are dealing with, you know, a lot of fear and uncertainty in their lives and livelihoods. i think we need to be acknowledging that. we need to talk about the price gouging because they see it of these big oil companies who make tens of billions of profits even as gas prices are high. even the food mon naply, the equitable businesses, big monopolies that are minting money as food prices go up. we have to show both of what we've done, lowest unemployment in over half a century. cancelled college debt. did the tax credit help people? republicans ended it if we're

back in office with control, we will continue to take care of people's economic costs. and equally important, we will actually have a democracy where people's votes matter and their freedoms matter. >> well, there's a lot of negative things to talk about in terms of what's on the horizon. there is one positive piece of news. and as a fellow asian american sister i will draw everyone's attention to it with you. today, the u.s. mint announced that the late chinese american actress anna may wong will be the first asian american to be featured on u.s. currency. it's part of a legislation passed in congress, barbara lee, honoring women throughout history. it's high time. it's so about time. >> i'm so excited to be here with you on this show with your historic role. >> and your historic role. >> but to have, you know, to have us on quarters -- >> yeah. >> on the money. >> on the money, feels like it's a huge thing.

and i really want to call out barbara lee, because she's my sister in the struggle. and she understands what this means to recognize. >> yeah. >> the role of diverse women throughout our history who are often left out of the history books. >> it's true. and i will say it's not unlinked, right? greater representation and the pushback you're seeing in certain parts of the country against a more inclusive society but they're minting it. >> on money. >> pramila jayapal, chair of the congressional caucus, thank you for your time. we'll be watching. we have much more in this hour. we're talk about how ron desantis' political stunt using migrants is starting to back fire. but what happened to stunts to arrest them who thought they couldn't vote. up next, what's happened with white supremacy, stay with us.

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♪♪ last night, as the two ohio senate candidates sparred in their final debate before election day, their most heated exchange was not about the economy or abortion or gun policy. it was about an old dangerous idea that was once a fringe theory in white supremacyist circles which means it was pretty fringe. and it took center stage in a debate for one of the seats that

will help decide which party controls the united states senate. >> this great replacement theory was the motivator for the shooting in buffalo. >> yeah. >> where that shooter had all of these great replacement theory writings that j.d. vance agrees with, some sicko got this information that he's peddling with, again, those extremists that he runs around with, marjorie taylor greene, ted cruz, all of these guys, they just want to stoke this racial violence. we're tired of it, j.d. this kid goes to a grocery store in buffalo where black people shop and shoots them up. no. we want to move on from that. everyone's exhausted. >> senate candidate and democratic congressman tim ryan pressed this point that his opponent j.d. vance has previously spoke against immigration to the u.s. by invoking the language of white replacement theory. that theory is predicated on the idea of white extinction.

the idea that white americans will be replaced by a nonwhite population that will ex tinge tradition. and many claim a jewish-led cabal is behind the plot for power. the theory use voter replacement to try and scare people into believing this ridiculous conspiracy. and now we're hearing echoes of this language repeatedly in this midterm cycle. candidates like j.d. vance. his surgt, congresswoman marjorie taylor greene and arizona senator blake masters has all used that language of the invasion and coming of armageddon for nonwhites to campaign for national office. >> we have an invasion in this country because very powerful people get richer and more powerful because of it. >> joe biden's 5 million illegal aliens are on the verge of replacing you, replacing your jobs and replacing your kids in school. and coming from all over the world, they're also replacing

your culture. and that's not great for america. >> the democrats want to flood this country with illegal aliens. if you connect the dots as a candidate for office and say, look, obviously, the democrats, they hope to just change the demographics of our country. they hope to import an entirely new electorate, man, they call you a racist. >> that language carries a lot of weight it's dangerous and proven deadly to some of parts of this country with no admonishment from leadership. joining us kathryn belew, author of "bring the power home." thank you for being here. >> thank you for having me. >> it feels from outside that immigration has basically become a vehicle to convey the white replacement theory. do you think that's accurate?

that is what it feels like the conversation has evolved to at least on the right? >> yeah, to understand replacement theory, is that it comes out of a set of fringe ideologies, this has been a live idea on the edges of our politics in the recent past and even earlier in the 21st century. the way it works, it connects all of these issues that we usually think of capitalcy conservative through the lens of prukz and particularly through birth of white children and hyper focus on the white birth rate. so immigration becomes a concern because the large number of peoples coming in might outnumber the population in the country but also abortion is a concern because it may lower the white birth rate. feminism is a concern because women are out of the home that might lower the birth rate. and we see a whole lot of other issues like opposing gay rights and opposing close contact in

communities of color, all of these are seen as a threat. >> you know, the other piece of legislation it allows people to vilify color, using the term outsider, even though the effects of that language is felt by communities of color native to this country, right? >> yeah, a lot of communities that have been here a very long time. one thing that struck me to j.d. vance's defense is of course, i wouldn't do that i have a biracial family, i have beautiful children. i get threats against the family. the thing is the language is dangerous for a whole bunch of children, not just his children. we have a near past history that has a record of violent attacks on people using this idea set. and we have a whole century of vigilantism, and anti-immigrant violence that's been unabled. >> to what degree is this cyclical? you talk about what happened in

the early part of the 20th century. steven miller, the architect of trump's immigration policy and effectively, it's a law based on newgenics. is it just a matter of change that this vitriol and rhetoric brings up? or are we at an apex point? >> as a thift torn, i'm contractually obligated to say, we have too many factors that play at this point to draw too many true historical parallels. but what i can say, as somebody who studied extremist movements and the klan, one tactic that we should be looking to in the 1920s when that immigration law was passed that is also a peek into the environment. that's when 4 million people or 10% of the state of indiana were in the klan, and it was totally acceptable. we have pictures of klansmen

marching down the national mall with their faces in plain view. they were doing business campaigns, that's where we are in extremism. it's in our mainstream, it's in our politics and it's going to be incredibly difficult to eck extricate from here. >> you mentioned and how impossible from the broader platform. >> the concern, i think, when we see this kind of mainstreaming without a back step, it isn't that somebody is accidentally picking up an idea and saying, oops, i used extreist rhetoric, is that people are using it in ways that are meant to be plausible. a bit here and there. but as we see if that, it's a coordinated campaign where people are using this across the republican campaigns. it's incredibly alarming if you live in a society that's interested in the rule of law by

fair election. because this means that extremist groups that have been targeting our populations through mass casualty taxi and individual acts of terror are now also making attacks on our institutions themselves. >> well, it's good to talk to you about it. and it's good to talk about what's happening. that's the first step, right? kathleen belew, associate professor and author of "bring the war home." thanks for being here. >> thanks for having me. up next, a new video shows even the police that ron desantis is using to carry out the scheme, even the police do not understand why he's doing it? >> why is he out doing it now and this happened years ago? >> i don't know. i have no idea, man. >> what exactly governor desantis is trying to do, coming up next. i'm jonathan lawson here to tell you about life insurance through the colonial penn program.

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in 2018, florida citizens easily passed a constitutional amendment to restore voting rights to convicted felons who had finished serving their sentences accepting only those convicted of murder or sex offense. in 2018 that amendment was popular, it passed with 65% of the vote. and it applied to 1.5 million floridians. that constitutional amendment was a game-changer especially for black florida voters that's

because the ballot initially passed 1 in 5 black voters were barred from voting. that all changed with that landmark constitutional naement 2018, at least until republicans got their hands on it. in 2019, the republican-controlled legislature under governor ron desantis passed a law that allowed convicted felons to be eligible to vote only if they had repaid their court fines and fees. this is pay for play, if you will. the confusion for that change to the amendment, plus the fact it was not made clear to convicted felons that if they were convicted of murder or a felony sex offense that they could not vote, all of that has made it sort of a mess down in the state of florida. and it's against that backdrop that two months ago, governor desantis held a big press conference to announce this crackdown on voter fraud in florida. the crackdown that targeted a select group of voters. desantis declared that newly created election police force had made a whopping 20 arrests. and those 20 arrests included

people ineligible to vote. they were convicted of murder or a felony sex offense. the charge is third industry felony. that calls for five years in prison and up to $5,000 in fines. but the people targeted in this crackdown really seemed to have no idea what they were doing, which is of the kaing a vote, they had no idea that it was illegal, at least that's what it appears to be in the videotape we're about to show you, an honest mistake that is somehow grounds for them to be cuffed and taken to jail. it was first published by the tampa bay times. it showed that even the police making these arrests, even the police were confounded by the entire situation. >> apparently, i guess you have a warrant. >> for what? >> i'm not sure. >> it's the voter -- >> oh, my god, man what the -- >> yes, sir, so, unfortunately,

right now, we're going to have to take you to jail. >> why are you out doing this now and this happened year ago? >> i don't know. i have no idea, man. >> this is crazy, man, y'all putting me in jail for something i didn't know nothing about. why would y'all let me vote if i wasn't able to vote? >> i'm not sure, man. >> for what? >> voter fraud. >> i ain't commit nod fraud. >> that's the thing i don't know exactly what happened with it but you do have a warrant, that's what it's for. >> oh, my god. >> this is a priority for the desantis administration, which voting rights advocates say it's creating a chilling effect across the state. joining us is jasmine burney clark. thanks so much for being here tonight. >> thank you for having me. >> so, can you tell me what kind

of effect this decision to pursue voting fraud, on the part of this governor desantis, what kind of effect has that had on the community of floridians who are newly enfranchiseder with the right to vote? >> certainly. this governor and his appointed election officials have moved the goalpost on voting every year since he's been elected. the creation of his multimillion election task force have police departments doing his bidding which essentially attaches this governor from his election bid. and it also absolves him from doing his actual job. so it should actually be that he's expanding voter access. but instead, he's identifying statewide ways to apprehend individuals when there should be a statewide agency that connects individuals to understanding what their fees and fines are.

so that they can vote and they can register confidently and not in fear. this governor has stoked fear. it has moved the confidence. it created more confusion. those are the impacts we're seeing on the ground in this state since those arrests started to take place under his task force. >> when you talk about that loss of confidence and the creation of confusion, i mean, what can be done to counter this? because it is effectively terrifying, folks may not be sure if they can vote, right, and just stay home come november. is there any grassroots effort to help people that actually can vote and get them to the polls? >> you know, we are three weeks away from an election here in florida and across the nation, and we are also in a state where we have been grossly underfunded and supported to help voters get out to vote. particularly organizations like mine and others across this state. but there are limited resources

that have been made available where bail funds have been created and legal assistance has been provided. we don't know how far those funds will take people. but they are an initial start, given the fact that there is just limited resources, and limited capacity in this state, to help support those. quite frankly, this is probably one of the most inhumane acts we have seen or witnessed in this state under this administration. >> which is saying a lot. and there are also pieces, governor desantis who often launches major policy prescriptions, if you will, with no clear implementation strategy. and that policy can be quite controversial. jasmine burney-clark, founder of equal ground, thank you so much for your time and your efforts. >> thank you. up next, a little something about tomorrow night's show that i'm very excited about. details, ahead, stay with us.

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