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this is not a political sideshow, he can just push his way through. this is donald trump, the citizen having to write a check. >> and there's pacing of it, it seems like they are not going to let this become totally dilatory, and at least moving things forward to this point. it suggests -- >> you set trial for february, and that's right. i don't know, chris. it could be the moment why donald trump actually has to face the music on sexual assault. >> i know. it's so funny.
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i think this incident is underneath the pile of the insane and number of scandals and legal peril. i recommend finding a persuasive account. yes, having it in front of a court and jury where it is factually litigated. >> i think one will say justice may finally -- the wheels of justice may actually be turning. i think we said that to each other multiple nights. it could be happening here. thank you, chris. thanks to you at home for joining us. the one, the only, trevor noel is joining me on set. i'm glad he's here tonight. there is something happening in this final stretch of the mid terms that i want to talk to him about. something i think he can help us wrap our heads around. let's start with the great state of louisiana. so every ten years there is a census, right? the last census in 2020 showed the same trend in louisiana that
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was taking place across several southern states. over the last decade, the white population sh rank -- shrank. this is louisiana's congressional delegation. of the state's six members of congress, five are white republicans. one is a black democrat. even though louisiana is one-third black, only one congressional district has majority black population. that's how state lawmakers drew the congressional maps. after every census, they get to draw new maps. last year despite the new census numbers showing a shrinking white population and growing black population, louisiana's white republican lawmakers managed to magically, once again, draw five majority white districts and just one black majority district. imagine that. can you imagine that? but throwing a wrench in their
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plans, a federal court blocked the new map. the federal judge said, essentially, you can't do that, that's illegal. this new map dilutes the black vote in louisiana which is prohibited. so louisiana's white republican law makes have come up with a truly novel solution to this problem. they're saying, okay, if we can't dilute the black vote, we'll just change the definition of who counts as black. and there will be fewer black people. problem solved. for 20 years, the definition you have black is any person that identifies as black on census forms, including people that check off boxes for black and any other racial or ethnic cat categories as white, asian and latino. they called for narrower deaf definition of blackness. louisiana officials have been
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arguing for the definition to only include people who check off either just the black box or both black and white. it is a neat trick. as if by magic a bunch of black voters would dus appear. the cynicism is breath taking. let's not forget much of history, blake spern developed by the one drop rule. if you had any black ancestors amounting to one drop of blood then you're black. there is a very specific person for using this blood map to define them as white and preserve white wealth and while political power when other racial segregation laws helped enforce a color line. when blackness meant a loss of political power, they want it to be broad as possible. once it was granted political power, then they wanted that
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definition to be super narrow. one federal judge in louisiana already rejected this idea saying, "it would be paradoxical to say the least to turn a blind eye to the well documented expansive view of blackness in favor of a definition on the opposite end of the spectrum. our current supreme court may reach a different conclusion. that's where louisiana lawmakers are making this case. and honestly, the high court looks poised to gut what is left of the voting rights act. law makers in louisiana and everywhere else would be able to carve up congressional districts however they want. they wouldn't have to redefine blackness. they'd be allowed to ignore black voters entirely. they wouldn't have to have that one black district at all. this court fight in which republicans hope to decimate black political power is playing out amid a midterm election campaign that has in many ways raised an identity at its core. to begin, with the election season is full of overtly race ust appeals to white voters.
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its so over it that "the washington post" wrote an article ticking off the racist stuff they have done saying they head lined racist gop appeals heat up. from gop senator suggesting all crimes committed by black people to tv airwaves blanketed with ads for democratic candidates, mug shots of black defendants. another add depicts hoards of black and brown immigrants and a deep voice narrator says they're wreck yurg schools, ruining your hospitals and threatening your family. for real, that's an ad on the air. in some cases, republicans skipped the middleman and created ads with images of opponents but with skin tone noticeably darkened. this is how they're closing this campaign. crime, immigration, crime, immigration, crime, immigration. you could call it a racist did dog whistle. it's not like they're hiding it. honestly, this is how they
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always close. this is how they get republican voters to come home. i could give you the history of republicans accusing democrats of being soft on crime using mug shots of people in ads but that would require doing a history of the last 40 years of republican ad campaigns. it must say something about this country that no matter what issues are at the top of voters minds, inflation, the economy, abortion, even the erosion of democracy, election cycle after election cycle, republicans can keep going back to the same well. joining us now is the host of the daily show. he is also the executive producer of the ten part documentary series. welcome, my friend. >> thank you for having me. >> it's a pleasure and honor.
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it's more exciting for me, i guarantee. than you with your star studded history. >> i don't think that's true. >> you were sitting there through that long windup. and i felt like it was really important to context uallize what is happening in this midterm election cycle amid the, you know, hectic frenetic pace of campaigns. there is snag is at the core of a lot of the campaigning that we're seeing. i wonder if any of this, whether any of that surprises you at this point. >> no. when i look at the buildup towards an election, especially in america and time when people are struggling to make ends meet and people are struggling to pay for groceries, when people are wondering whether the next paycheck will be enough to live
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the life they've been living, it triggers a feeling that i'll have whenever an election comes up, same thing will happen in south africa. you are able to get people to think the worst of others when they themselves are in the worst position. you know, i used to think that in life we could just change people and make them better or make them more inclusive. it's an unfortunate bi-product. i think we'll see that a lot more now. unfortunately, if politicians do not understand that the cause is more important than the symptom, we'll be chasing a symptom forever. you can change people's opinions on other people's race on other people from other country with immigrants. you can try to do that forever. but really what we've seen is time and time again, when people are struggling, they're most
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susceptible to ideas. >> some people are struggling. some of them aren't. some people -- >> they've been told they are. >> maybe that's what it is. the narrative of grievance. >> yeah. >> intoxicating. >> definitely. >> what surprises me, and it shouldn't at this point, it's working. right? there were headlights that they were going to hold top the senate and the house and there is one from the quality journal, republican midterm prospect brighten in closing the election. this is the moment when they're talking about crime and um inauguration which i believe are vehicles to talk about to fear monger. >> definitely. definitely. but it works though. it works. i was talking to friends of mine and they were saying, you know, i live in new york. they were in l.a. i said i'm going to be there for a show. they said whatever you do, be careful. the crime is really skyrocketed. i said oh, like where? how? how much? what you are talking about?
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they said, i don't know, i've just seen some things. and it really fascinates me. it made me realize, maybe i've been working in the environment for so long that i have a team of fact checkers. most of the time we watch a video and see an ad and you don't question it. any time you see something that reinforce that's idea, you will believe it. the irony effect in louvre in america is the same image can have a completely different connotation depending on how people want that image to be used. for instance, you'll see people being arrested and some politicians who say, see? things are getting better and crime is going down. look, everything is getting better. they're being arrested. and they can use that same image to say, well, look how many criminals are out there. it's the same image. it's how you tell storty completely changes on what
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you're wanting to do. >> we lost the common narrative. there is alt earn tough facts. i wonder when we talk about this mud term race and talk about race, i always go back to the georgia race. there you have two black men running for a senate seat. and i wonder what you make of the herschel walker candidacy and the context of the kind of explicitly racist calls that republicans are making. they can get behind that black man down in georgia. do you think that's simply because he's the republican candidate? or because there is another element that to his candidacy that makes white republicans feel good about supporting herschel walker? >> i think we're moving to a place where politics is now becoming the new religion of america. in that's first thing they say to you. i don't if you remember, there are people that didn't talk about that. your vote is your secret. i don't want to talk about. let's talk about that at the
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table. we don't talk about voting. people just voted and they live their lives. but now people live to talk about how they voted. i think what it's created is a world where that supersedes everything. the values are so different that it seems irreconcilable to forget that those are someone else's values. >> yeah, but sometimes making heads or tails of the american system requires you to start at one point. you have ever tried to untangle a bunch of cords in your drawer and you think found it and takes you to this charger and you go to that charger. that's what it feels like looking at america and what is happening in the country. you see it reflected in other parts of the world. america's system unique in the conversation that's people have and why they have them. what you're saying about the
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polarization is it's just going to become worse because we don't live in the same world anymore. >> yeah. >> we would all meet in one place whether it was for the news, you know, people watching whether it is walter cronkite or whoever it was. people would watch the same news and then argue about it. my mom was in south africa. that was a family thing. how many shows do we have like that? not the shows, but how many moments? everybody is watching it on tv. kridz in a different world this their parents and they're in a different world than their parents. everyone says they want to train in the subway. nobody is reading or experiencing the same thing. other than maybe the dancers. but that's about it. i think what that's done is it's created a hyper sensitive society and we don't realize
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we're not living in the same world. you can't -- you can't do anything. >> if you don't agree on the same world. >> when growing up in south africa, apart from watching "murder she wrote," did you think that america had the whole racism thing figured out more than south africa did? >> that's an interesting question. i think -- i had a characterized version of what america was. i was watching "different strokes." it is great. "beverly hills cop," all the movies gave me an idea of what america was. and i don't think it was too far from what america was trying to be funny enough. again, because everybody was come together and watching the same thing. there is a same world that people aspired to even if they couldn't achieve it. but what i learned when i moved to america is what makes it different for south africa is we're very blatant about what was happening and i always say as crazy as it is to say out loud, i think the one benefit of the apartheid government's
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extreme hub us are in what they were doing was that you didn't have to uncover it. >> right. >> they said it. >> explicit. >> we consider people of color, black people, indian people, we consider them inferior and that's why we treat them this way. in america, over time, we know the history, but over time, politicians realized that wasn't suitable. that wasn't acceptable in public. they learned how to code the language. they learned how to change it. people didn't hear the word hispanic or black. but they felt it. that is more powerful. instead of fighting racism, we have to profit exists. >> and also makes people who are racist feel better, right? >> i would say some of them don't feel they're racist. >> i think that's true. i didn't think about race. >> right. marjorie taylor green said that martin luther king were he alive today would be an america first republican.
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i don't think she was being funny. i think she legitimately believes that. sorry, it was kerry lake. we have much more to talk to trevor about including his decision to leave "the daily show" and downme here as my co-host. i'm kidding. and, of course, his new documentary series "the turning point" which is airing on this network. is airing on this network. we planned well for retirement, but i wish we had more cash. they have no idea they're sitting on a goldmine. well they don't realize that if you have a life insurance policy of $100,000 or more, you can sell all or part of it to coventry for cash. even a term policy. we've got to tell them! hey, guys! you're sitting on a goldmine! do you hear that? i don't hear anything anymore. find out if you're sitting on a goldmine. call coventry direct today at the number on your screen, or visit coventrydirect.com.
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everywhere you went there were people. later on they ended up having to close the doors. they couldn't let anyone else in it was so crowded. >> just a moment. >> a group of 20 women in san antonio at 9:00. they said we're going to the capitol. they wanted to be part of this. they wanted to say stop this. >> eye seen women who marched on washington back in the day. and then young people who never been to any kind of action in their life. it was really cool. a sense of community. >> we're going to be in this in the long run. >> we are coming back. we are coming back! >> these moments in the day when
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the building would literally come alive. i could feel it under my feet. >> that was a clip from a new documentary "shouting down mid neutral" which revuts the story of wendy davis and the abortion restriction bill in 2013. it is part of trevor noah's new series, "the turning point." it is set to air this sunday night at 10:00 p.m. joining me now is trevor noah. trevor, tell me about -- i think some of us remember this. but seeing it reliving it in a way, it -- you can visit rally -- can you feel the emotion of that moment. >> yes. >> the excitement, the sense of possibility. why did you -- how did you get involved in this? and sort of more urgently, why now? why release this now? what's sad is when i got involved in this project, this documentary in particular wasn't as pressing as it is now. >> yeah. >> when we were speaking of it,
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we were speaking on a theoretical way. republicans, even chris hayes is talking about and we say, no, there will be an exception. this is not nationwide. and here you have now a country where women all over the continent are saying what is going to happen? from the east coast to the west coast, what is going to happen? will we have control over our bodies? what i love about the turning point is, it's made by different filmmakers, i think each story is so unique. this story isn't just about that moment when wendy davis stood up there and basically, i mean fought for all the women's rights and said i'll stand here. even though i know we'll lose, i'll stand here despite that, that became what inspired not just in her community but in multiple areas where people say we need to fight for our rights to control our own bodies.
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>> yeah. i mean, how important that fight now seems. docuseries, there are a couple documentaries in this series thus the term docu series, is this what we can expect since you're leaving america's post as the host of "the daily show." >> that's your title. i think this is part of what i would love to be doing more of. i've really been lucky to embark on, you know, multiple journeys. i got -- i've had the pleasure of executive producing this docu series, working with filmmakers and producers and directors. the i had the pleasure of doing standup in and ash america and the rest of the world. i had the pleasure of host hosting "the daily show." you have to figure out where you want to be and where you want to spend your heart beats. >> it's a finite number of them. >> and, you know, covid -- i
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think covid gave everybody a moment to sit down and think who are you? who are you trying to be? how are you spending your time? who are you spending it with? why are you spending it that way? i realized, you know, i never want to be in a position where people feel like i'm not giving my all. and so i thought i will give my all until i feel like i even have a little bit left. but let me take what i have left. then try everything else that inspires me, whether it is docuseries or being in movies. whatever it may be. nothing is promised. nothing is promised. do you remember sitting in your apartment locked up? do you remember that period? >> yeah. i he wasn't doing a show from my apartment in a hoodie. which did you with great pinache. i assume the hardest part of giving up "the daily show" is not having me as a guest. the second part is -- let me ask
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you a question. you always train your eye. you have a great eye. look, that's how many times i've been on "the daily show." i'm not saying i asked him to make that. >> it should have been "the daily show" with trevor noah and alex wagner. >> but you have trained your eye towards the media. i think there is an inherent -- you have a perspective on the media that i think a lot of people don't have. i wonder how you would grade us at this stage in the game. i was talking to my great predecessor in this hour. we were talking about the responsibility here as journalists. you have a character like donald trump. one hand, you have to cover some of the things he is doing. how do you give it in a way that doesn't give him the megaphone? do you think we got better? is how do you -- what can we do. >> i think america blurred the
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lines for so long that at some point entertainment took over. that is one thing that donald trump as always known how to do, you look at the very beginning of the idea of donald trump being on the news. there the were campaigns reaching out to cnn and saying you need a cover. this is funny. this is great. i think a lot of democrats have to look at themselves and say why didn't we encourage this? i spoke about this on my show. the fact that there are still democratic machines that are funding extreme republicans, basically putting them forward. i'm going to take money that people donated to our campaigns and use it to prop them up because i think they'll be easier to beat. but are you willing to take the risk that this person may be easier to beat? you don't remember what happened with donald trump?
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you know, when it comes to the grading, i don't grade anybody. you know, i'm not a master. i don't even claim to be. but i look at what people could do differently. i think the media learned a lesson. i think every news outlet went, wow, we played it as a joke. i don't know if the genie will ever go back into the bottle. i think the media can ask questions about the why? why do we put people on? what are we trying to get from this? is it a rate push? don't hide it. don't add icing to the cake to make it seem like it is what it isn't. >> be more explicit like they're in south africa. >> do it and go ahead. a lot of the time american news will masquerade, will live in this world of no this is so important. it's like it's great for ratings. i understand that challenge. also acknowledge that there is a country that is watching what you're creating.
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>> good for ratings, bad for the country. one last question. who is going to win the world cup. >> i thought you were going to say the election. >> i want you to come back. >> that is one of the hardest questions i've every been asked. >> i think france are the favorites. and then i think there are a few -- i think france are the favorites. if i were -- force zblors that's a really noncommittal. >> if i were to bet my money, i would be shocked if the french will lose. but who will win the world cup? >> wow. you're a pro. you're a pro. that's why you were those. trevor noah, my friend, let's just take the show on the road. >> this show? >> just you and me. >> i got time. >> i'm not as funny as you are. but i can make a mean grilled cheese. delight to have you on the program. thank you to your service as the host of "the daily show." >> thank you for having me. >> come back many times in the future. good luck with everything.
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"shouting down midnight" is on msnbc at 10:00 p.m. eastern. we have much more ahead this hour. it has been a no good, very bad day for donald trump and his defense team. what a ruling from a california judge means for donald trump, lawyer, and the january 6 investigation. and instead of addressing the root cause of gun violence and mass shootings, the state of texas is doing something else. something fairly shocking to prepare parents for another horrific school shooting. stay with us. horrific school shooting stay with us i'm jonathan lawson here to tell you about life insurance through the colonial penn program. if you're age 50 to 85, and looking to buy life insurance on a fixed budget, remember the three ps. what are the three ps? the three ps of life insurance on a fixed budget are price, price, and price. a price you can afford, a price that can't increase, and a price that fits your budget. i'm 54, what's my price?
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a federal judge says for the third time this year there is evidence that donald trump and his former attorney john eastman likely conspired to commit crime. today that judge ruled that eastman turned over 33 of the more than 500 e-mails he claumd claimed privilege over. they include conspiracy to defraud the united states. and the eight documents fit the crime fraud exception which allows disclosure of document that's would otherwise be protect are under attorney-client privilege. some of the e-mails that the
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judge wants we leased is to overturn the vote in florida. they claimed that they counted more than 10,000 dead people's votes. when the matter moved to federal court, eastman noted in an e-mail to other trump lawyers, that the statistic about dead people's votes was inaccurate. trump and his lawyers included that inaccurate statistic in the federal filing anyway. quote, president trump signed an authorization saying that inaccurate numbers are true and correct or believed to be true and correct to the best of his knowledge and belief. the e-mail showed that president trump knew the numbers of proud were wrong but continued to tout the numbers in court and in public. there is a conspiracy to defraud the united states. nerd, trump knew the numbers were wrong and he hide anyway. so john eastman and donald trump are in trouble. more of those e-mails about
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potentially criminal conduct are headed to the january 6 committee just as the january 6 committee plans to issue a subpoena to trump, quote, soon. the decision also has significant consequences for the on going investigations by fulton county, georgia, district attorney willis and the justice department into trump's election schemes. in other words, buckle up. joining us now is neil catia, acting solicitor general and professor of law at georgetown university. thank you for joining us tonight. >> thanks for having me. >> so how meaningful -- we are now old enough to remember the number of times that donald trump has lied publicly. but how meaningful is it that he is apparently lying in federal court? >> this is a really big deal, alex. you said buckle up. i think that's right. this is not -- what happened
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today is not like the january 6 committee or bunch of democrats or something who saying, hey, i found something in an e-mail. this is a highly respected federal judge, judge carter, and what he said is basically this. there is a whole bunch of e-mails that investigators have been trying to get. and donald trump and john eastman who is his attorney have been blocking that. we're trying to understand why. why are they so afraid? today we learned what trump and eastman are so afraid of. the e-mails show that john eastman and maybe his only good legal move ever told donald trump, hey, you can't use these voting numbers in your federal court litigation. they're wrong. trump said i'm going to do it anyway. he did it personally anyway, alex. he personally signed a document saying i'm certifying this as correct to the best of my knowledge. on the basis of what my attorney
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told me. and the document said this is under penalty of perjury. you have in black and white a federal judge saying, donald trump, you lied to a federal court under penalty of perjury. that is straight up a crime. what this means is for the january 6 committee, it is super charges the subpoena. because you now have a federal judge saying donald trump personally committed crimes. and this is information that the january 6 committee, the e-mails have been trying to get, it also super charges the georgia prosecution because it turns out that trump was lying as you were saying a moment ago about the georgia election numbers. >> what can they do with this information at this point? >> indict him. if this were anyone he is, that person would have been indicted a long time ago. one thing that judges tell you over and over again is the thing
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that breaks courts down is when litigants affirmatively lie to them. people pushing envelope but when you have someone filing documents and saying i believe this is true under penalty and perjury, when you have been told yourself it's not true, that's the system breaking down. >> i find it very hard. >> go ahead. >> i was going to say. i don't know but i find it hard to think she can look the other way. >> it also exposes, i mean, to some degree, trump's privilege claims are a canard. it seems like they've been revealed to be a delay tackic. i wonder if you think there are after effects in the special master case.
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he said show me the beef on all the prif leblg claims. like where is the there there? do you think this sort of adds fuel to that increasingly burning fire over in the courthouse? >> trump's claims are being essentially mocked by judge dearie because he's a real judge and understands privilege has to have some basis. whether attorney client or executive privilege. that's like standard attorney-client privilege. the exception is if you're using that attorney to help commit a federal crime. and that's what this evidence today judge carter said this is what it's about. it's donald trump committing a crime. and so that's why the attorney-client privilege is pierced here. >> one more question. trump was finally deposed to day in the defamation suit.
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is there a strategy for him here at this point given where this seems to be going and the fact that she plans to sue trump in november, i believe, under new york law, adult survivors act that gives us one window to sue even if the statute of limitations has expired. do you think he has an escape hatch here? >> not only do i think he doesn't have an escape hatch, he has no strategy at all, alex. we don't know what happened in the deposition today. we know what happened yesterday. because donald trump had one good defense to this whole jean carol thing which is whatever i said that she's attack meg for is defamation. i did so when i was president. and so i did it in my official capacity, you can't sue me. yesterday he went and said on social media and other things and repeated the defamation things about jean carol.
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he is, of course, no longer president. so any defense he had now about his official action is utterly destroyed. so if i'm his attorney, at this point, i don't really know what to do. your client gave up the one defense you have which wasn't a terrible defense at least judged by the standard of trump defenses like attorney-client privilege, declassified it in my mind and the litany of other nonsense that we've been hearing. >> neil catiol. it bears mentioning, we didn't even talk about -- there are so many investigations we literally didn't have time to get to all of them in the segment. a testament to the legal peril that former president trump finds himself in. acting solicitor general during the obama years, neil, thank you for your time tonight. >> thank you. still to come, how are republicans addressing the issue of gun violence ahead of the midterm elections?
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dangerous people. >> at the end of the day, americans have a second amendment right to protect themselves. they have -- and these killers that are out there, they're intent on killing as they are, they found multiple ways to get ahold of weapons and cause mass destruction. >> has nothing to do with the second amendment. this is about taking dangerous guns out of the hands of dangerous people. and overwhelming majority of people in our nation want us to do just that. how long will you watch people being gunned down in first grade, fourth grade, high school, college, church, synagogue, grocery store, movie theater, a mall and a nightclub? >> congresswoman -- >> and do nothing. >> that was a highlight between marco rubio and val demings. right now republicans across the country are attacking democrats on the issue of violent crime. but when it comes to the most horrific violent crimes we've witnessed in this country, mass shootings, the same republicans have offered shockingly little in the way of solutions.
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what they have managed to offer is down right distaupian. after the school shooting in uvalde, texas, the one that killed 19 children and two teachers, some of the victims bodies were so thoroughly destroyed by gunfire that parents were asked to provide dna samples to identify their children. after that gruesome, profoundly tragic vent, texas republicans -- refused to do anything to address the problem. texas is now sending parents dna kits to collect samples of their children's dna in case those children ever need to be identified. texas officials say that this new program isn't specifically about gun violence and is intended to create dna records in case a child goes missing. but the parallels with uvalde have been clear to many parents who have been outraged. as one middle school teacher in san antonio told "the washington
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post," the word missing means a lot of different things. the midterm elections are less than three weeks away. are we destined to send out more dna kits for dead children or can republicans be held accountable on gun safety? joining us now is david hall, gun safety advocate, former parkland student and mash for our lives. thank you for joining me tonight. >> thank you for having me on, alex. >> when i heard about the state of texas sending dna kits to parents, i -- the profound dispair that i felt and the horror that this could be their response to something like uvalde, i wonder, i mean, does it feel like to some degree officials are waving the white flag and saying we can expect that children will be put in harm's way and may or may not get executed in the classrooms? or do you think is hope here in terms of getting republicans onboard for gun safety?
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>> you know, alex, i think since parkland, we passed over 170 gun laws in the state level. that is in many republican states including florida. we know that republicans do care about one thing as all politicians do on both sides which is whether or not people vote for them. in the wake of parkland, people said, you know, it's great that you kids, which you know obviously i was 17. many of the survivors were under 18. we showed that people were going to vote on this issue and they do care. i do find some hope. right now it's deeply heartbreaking that while we were able to pass the first federal gun law this summer in 30 years with 10 republican votes, the solution to gun violence and specifically violent crime by republicans is to instead of stopping criminals from getting guns in the first place, it's to make sure that you're able to identify your child successfully after they've been decapitated
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you about an ar 15. their solution is to get more cops in schools just like the one that failed at my high school and the dozen plus that failed in uvalde. if we are just letting police officers and first responders be our first response to gun violence, we're failing. by the time a sheert gets on campus, by the time a 19-year-old white supremacist obtains i had ar 15, it is far too late. >> you have been really -- you held marco rubio's feet to the fire on this. he is senator from florida. your state. and, yet, here he is on a debate stage effectively saying, towing the nra line saying second amendment solutions to this problem. that is full stop. what did you make of that response to val demings who had an empassioned plea? his response is effectively nothing stops a bad guy with a gun like a good guy with a gun. >> here's the thing.
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my father was a good guy with a gun. he was an fbi agent for much of his career. many family members are in law enforcement. by enabling the people, anybody in that field will tell you the best way to stop a shooting is to stop somebody from having a gun in the first place. the shooter at my high school was not kranl but a mastermind. he didn't have adeep connections to the black market. he was able as a 19-year-old to by an ar 15 and shoot and kill my classmates and educators with a legally obtained and -- weapon that he continued to own despite making multiple threats. marco rubio has been in congress for six years and he is not doing anything to make things safer. that's why i'm working in val demings' campaign. it's not going to get through the senate. the way it is right now with the
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filibuster and the wurnt -- current majority we have. we need to show the power of the people's interest and not the special interests. that's why i'm asking people, please join me in donating to val demings campaign. i don't ask this for many politicians. this is an important race. you want to donate go, to valdemings.com/safety once again. , valdemings.com/safety. >> david hog, thank you for joining us tonight. best of luck with everything. >> thank you, alex. we'll be right back. we'll be right back.
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