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ultimately -- not ultimately, with rapid world-record-breaking speed led to her undoing. >> i remember when bill clinton was putting his budget together in 1993. he was given the unmistaken news that he had to take care of the debt, he had to take care of the deaf sit or else the markets would tank, the economy would tank, and then president clinton told aides around him, angrily said to aides around him something to the effect of, are you telling me that my presidency is going to be defined by bond traders? well, liz truss found out early, ed, that, in fact, the markets did matter. her economic plan was met with a disastrous reaction from the markets. the pound tanked. all this in a country that as
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katty kay said earlier, has 2% inflation -- over 10% inflation, an energy crisis, the possibility of blackouts, 1970-style blackouts coming this winter, and strikes looming on the horizon. things are dark, indeed, for whomever replaces liz truss. >> she was sort of the ultimate simplistic free marketeer. she felt whatever the circumstances, the tax cuts the solution. of course that's what the markets reacted to. so in a way the ultimate free marketeer was defeated by the free markets. you can't afford this, the timing is offer. the british political system and british people won't accept this in a time of growth. she couldn't defeat the markets. so, whoever comes after her is
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going to have to first and foremost adhere to james carville's saying, if i died and came back and were recree itted, it would be as the bond markets. but, you know, if you judge britain as a balance sheet, as an economy, as a society, it's actually -- it looks fine. these are all unforced errors. these are all spectacular unforced errors. it will go down to the harvard business school case studies as to how not to do politics, how not to signal, to communicate, how not to take on the markets and lose or take on something else and lose. it's an extraordinary catalog of own goals, of unforced errors. and i guess the larger question here is how did british politics
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and society get into a situation where this is the kind of leadership we have? and it's very important question. you know, it goes to the heart of what is populism about, what causes it. and i don't pretend to have all the answers, but i know that some of them are contained in this very sorry 44-day prime ministership. >> ed, stay with us if you can. joining us on the phone, lord michael ashcroft, a longtime conservative party supper porter, served as deputy chairman of the party from 2005 to 2010. thanks for being with us this morning. we appreciate it. this resignation of liz truss did have the air of inevitability for the last several days. what's your reaction to the news? >> well, this has been coming for a number of days, but the conservative party does have a reputation for being fairly brutal when it comes to its leaders and to remove them.
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i think now we have to concentrate on those who won't stand on her grave or magnanimity in defeat, but where does the government go from here, where does the conservative party go? one thing is the next leader will be elected within one week, which is a much shorter process than we've had in the past, but the members of parliament bring the leadership numbers down to two and its goes to the party members to choose between the two. in the last reaction, the finance minister won the battle at the members of parliament level, then lost it at the membership level. so liz truss didn't win at the membership level. and i think what is happening now is either they're going to just have a quick members ballot
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if they get down to two or they'll change the rules and just have it as members of parliament. and within a week there will be a new prime minister of the united kingdom. this doesn't preclude any of the prior members of parliament from standing, which could include boris johnson, which, of course, would be a massive reversal, him having been removed by the very party that he now seeks to mandate again, just shows the chaos that the conservative party has become. one of the sad realities of politics here is perhaps the person or -- a person and deputy that could possibly win over the british public in two years' time will not win in the election and we'll get some rehash politician, because most
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of the members of parliament only, i'm afraid self-interest to many of the mps as far as their positions in the cabinet that the prime minister has can often be something which is in their precedent for other than the national interest. as things stand at the moment, it is really the next election in two years' time that is for the labor party now not to lose, and then to start preparing a sensible economic plan that they'll frighten the horses and to move a little more towards the center and do something about their left wing. i'm sure you know in the united states the problem of left-wing then tend to dominate the
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election of their leaders, but that doesn't necessarily win a general election coming from the extreme. so we're in an interesting phase at the moment, and it could well be a suicide mission in any event for the conservative party over the next two years. >> thank you so much, lord ashcroft, for being with us. we so greatly appreciate it. uk prime minister liz truss stepping down after only 44 days in office. let's bring in white house chief of staff ron klain. ron, i know you're focused on your own election coming up, the midterm elections that are going to determine where this country goes over the next couple years, but i'd be remiss if i didn't ask you your reaction to the chaos going on in great britain right now. >> well, you know, joe, the president will have a statement out this morning. all i want to say in front of
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that is that our country has always had a special relationship with the united kingdom without regard to the partisan affiliation of our president or the politics of their prime minister. that's going to continue no matter who the uk fixes as their next prime minister. we'll maintain that special interest, special relationship. there are so many things, causes and concerns we share in common with the united kingdom, particularly right now in terms of combatting russian aggression in ukraine. we're going to work very closely with whomever succeeds prime minister truss. >> i want to ask you about the white house plans to lower fuel costs. but before i get to the decisions that you all have made that the republicans have been critical of, i want to ask about the saudi decision to cut back production, a decision that even people close to the saudis were shocked by and said made very little economic sense. what is america's reaction? what is president biden's reaction to that after going
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over to saudi arabia on a trip that was politically fraught but he did it for -- because in part because he didn't want cooperation on energy issues and strategic issues. how does the biden white house respond to the saudis' inexplicable actions? >> well, as the president said, we're re-examining our relationship with saudi arabia. i think there are members of both parties in washington who want to see that happen. but it's also important to note, the president wants saudi arabia for a number of reasons. one was to talk about, you know, our overall strategic cooperation. look, the goal here now is we're trying to rally a global coalition to combat russian aggression in ukraine. the president's had historic success with that, bring europe together in an unprecedented way, growing nato in an unprecedented way to combat russian aggression. we would like the saudis to join us in that coalition and help
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the world check this outrage in ukraine. we're going to continue to try to press the saudis to do that. we need as many countries as we can have combine to prevent what this outrage, this horror in ukraine from going on. we know that russian oil is the key to funding that war, and we're going to do whatever we can to try to prevent the uss from using their oil profits and proceeds to fund that horrific event that's going on in ukraine. >> so, ron, the president announced that we were going to be releasing 15 million barrels of oil from the strategic pe toll youm reserve. some republicans have been very critical, saying that should never be tapped into except in cases of war and that the president was only doing this because an election was a couple weeks away. what's your response to those criticisms? >> well, i'd say first of all, we had republicans say, hey, he
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needs to do something about gas prices, then we did something about gas prices and they're, like, well, don't do that. so it's hard for me to take the criticism very seriously. look, we've had a policy this year of a historic release from the petroleum reserve and it's worked to bring the price of gas down. over the summer it fell 98 days in a row in part thanks to those releases. by the way, not just us. the president worked to get other countries the same thing. india, south korea, japan. we brought the world together to deal with the consequences of the russian war in ukraine. we brought the price of gas down all summer long, almost $1.50. then, you know, around this action with saudi arabia, it started to go back up a bit. so the president again brought the same tool tolles the table. part of that was with release from the reserve you mentioned, joe, but part of what he announced yesterday was setting a price to refill the reserve, which gives the u.s. oil industry incentives to continue to explore to and to produce
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more. we're going to see record oil production in this country in 2023. we want to continue to responsibly increase that as we make the transition to clean energy in the long run. we think this country can have energy security and a clean energy future. that's the direction we're moving america in. and the president's announcement yesterday was both about the price of gas in the short run and a more stable energy supply in the long run. >> ron, good morning. you're looking at the same numbers a lot of us are. you probably have more specific numbers about where voters are heading into these midterms in 2 1/2 weeks with the economy and inflation being the most salient issues to go to voters for the poll ls. inflation, health care, buying a vehicle, buying a home got very expensive over the last year or so. it appears moves by the fed to hike rates haven't had an impact yet. it appears some of the measures
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you all have taken haven't had an impact on those areas of rising prices. what do you say to a voter who say democrats are in power, things are too expensive to me, i'm going the other way? >> first of all, i have to be careful. i'm covered by the hatch act. i'm not supposed to say things to voters to get them to go our way. >> say it to me then. >> yeah. i'll say it to you. first of all, we have done things to bring prices down. we passed the inflation reduction act which breaks a 30-year hold that big pharma had on keeping the prices of drugs high. it will start to bring the prices of drugs down. we've announced the medicare premium will fall next year, the first time in a decade the premium is going down next year. cars. there's been a dramatic drop in the price of used cars in the past few weeks. that's affecting the market. we brought to down the price of gasoline as i mentioned. we continue to bring the price down. i get the fact that prices are high. that's pinching family budge
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its. i'd also say if you look at where the economy was when you got here, we had 8% unemployment. we brought that down to the lowest unemployment rate in 50 years. we had people in lines waiting for a box of food. poverty is down dramatically. we've had all-time record low hispanic unemployment and all-time record low to in black teenage unemployment. so, we are putting americans back to work. businesses are open that were closed two years ago, schools are open that were closed two years ago. we're trying to get over the giant economic impacts of covid. inflation is a global problem, but in america, the president is fighting to bring down prices of everyday things like prescription drugs, like gasoline, and i think, you know, that's our message to voters at this very tough time. >> hey, ron. we've heard from the president a number of times including in front of nato that the united states, the white house will
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support ukraine as long as it takes during this war with russia. we heard from gop leader mccarthy this week that that may not be their policy, suggesting there will not be a, quote, blank check if republicans take control of the house after the midterm elections. walk us through what you guys are doing to convince republicans there to stay the course but also in case they don't and if they do win in november on a lame duck bill that could go through between now and january. >> first of all, jonathan, i will say, again, without violating the hatch act here, we are planning to work with the democratic house and a democratic senate next year. that's our plan. i will also say that to date fighting russian aggression in ukraine has had bipartisan support. i want to thank mitch mcconnell for being one of our strongest supporters in tackling russian aggression. this should not be a partisan issue. the republican party
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historically has stood for combatting russian aggression. so, i don't see why this should go the direction that leader mccarthy suggested. i don't think marjorie taylor greene should set the foreign policy in the republican party. i think that would be a mistake if that's the way this goes. we are going to work with people in both parties to continue to make sure that this country does what it has done since the end of world war ii, which is stand for freedom in the world, stand to combat russian aggression in the world, and help the people of ukraine specifically fight off this invasion. >> white house chief of staff ron klain, as always, thank you so much for being with us. we greatly appreciate it. all right. coming up, we have much more on the historic resignation of liz truss, stepping down as uk prime minister after just six weeks in office. and later, nearly a decade after her historic filibuster, wendy
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our country has been held back for too long by low economic growth. i was elected by the conservative party with a mandate to change this. we delivered on energy bills and on cutting national insurance. we set out a vision for a low tax, high-growth economy that would take advantage of the freedom ls of brexit. i recognized, though, given the situation, i cannot deliver the mandate on which i was elected by the conservative party.
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i therefore have spoke on the his majesty, the king, to notify him that i am resigning as leader of the conservative party. >> british prime minister liz truss just moments ago announcing her resignation after 44 days in that seat. let's bring in sky news anchor and nbc news contributor wilfred frost live outside of 10 downing street in london. what's the reaction there? >> reporter: i mean, we're all rather embarrassed i think at the state of the country, but no doubt no one more so than the outgoing prime minister, liz truss, who has the humiliating accolade of being the shortest serving prime minister of all time, just 45 days in office, and we'll now move on to having our third prime minister this year, quite astonishing, really. and we're told we'll have that new prime minister within the space of the week. that's important because it suggests that the party thinks they will be able to fall behind
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a single figure and unite in a way that of course they have not been for not just weeks but many, many months the party's been fiercely divided. it remains to be seen whether they can deliver that unity figure, but the fact they want a new prime minister within a week suggests that's what they're aiming for. >> early moments here, but is there a sense of who that may be, who may take the job? could it be boris coming back after just a few months away? >> reporter: it seems very unlikely in the short term. there's a few procedural issues that would make that tricky for him. one person not, interesting, the new finance minister put in place last friday, liz truss' second finance minister, our fourth this pour months. jeremy hunt has ruled himself out wanting to deliver stability or hold on to the second most important office of country, something he was a million miles
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away from ten days ago. betting markets, richie, who liz truss defeated this summer, but there's long way to go in the next seven days to see if they can get a unity candidate. but why is the party doing all this? to try and askroid void a general election. the opposition party wants a general election. they'd win by a landslide if they delivered it, but that's why the conservatives are trying to act to prevent it. that's their incentive to somehow put aside their differences and fall behind a single candidate. >> as you said, labor leadership already this morning quickly calling for a general election. sky news anchor, nbc news contribute or the, wilfred frost live jo ut side of a rainy 10 downing this morning. will fred, thanks so much. joe, this is fascinating now. the sweepstakes, see who will take this job, there's been a lot of tuque about boris johnson, but as wilfred said, that could be complicated. >> my money is on john major. come on. >> you're really pushing this.
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>> i'm pushing it. i'm pushing a unifying figure. let's bring ed back in, a man who i'm sure would not share that vote. ed, i was fascinated by what you said earlier about the british economy despite the fact it's being buffeted right now by inflation, which is a worldwide phenomenon, and also other economic ills post covid. you said that the balance sheet there is not dreadful and that most of these problems came from self-inflicted wounds. if that's the case, how did the torrys get to this point where they botched this as badly as they did? >> well, it's a very good question. when brexit happened, all kinds of extravagant promises were made as to what brexit would deliver. after all, you have to be pretty extravagant if you're lead toing
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the largest market in the world to claim that that's going to benefit you economically is, you know, a stretch. and clearly it didn't benefit britain economically. they went from being the second fastest growing rich economy in 2016 after america to being the lowest growing of the g-7, by far the lowest growth and by far the highest inflation. so you have to -- they're getting to a politics where more and more magical promises are made to try and redeem the fact that none of what you promised came to pass. more and more extravagant scapegoats have to be found. more and more magical thinking has to be indepartment of justiced -- indulged in, and that's why we have these policies being pushed forward. we'll see a one-week, thankfully, leadership contest for the new prime minister this week.
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and in spite of the fact that we've got this self-created chaos, there are going to be lots of people lining up for that guillotine, and believe me, it is a guillotine. whoever gets this job going to lose their head either in the coming months when it appears the next bout of magical thinking has failed to redeem its promise to, or a general election, which ought to happen sooner rather than later, but it doesn't have to happen for two years. we could have two agonizing years of the guillotine being extremely busy with conservative party leaders. we've had five prime ministers in six years in britain. this makes us look like a paragon of stability. >> it all sounds so wonderful, especially the repeated references to the guillotine. i'm sure people will be lining up for that around 10 downing street immediately. all right.
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he writes, "it's not enough for twitter to lock the rapper kanye west out of his accounts. west's business partners across the fashion and entertainment industry also need to speak out and take action. west is not just any person. he is a pop culture icon with millions of fans around the world, and among them are young people whose views are still being formed. silence is dangerous. it allows forformings of hatred and racism, including anti-semitism to spread and become normalized. it coarsens and degrades our society and country. this is why it's necessary for all of us to peek out. hatred and anti-semitism should have no place in our society, no matter how much money is at stake. this is a moment in history where the stakes are minor league and being open about our values, and living them, is essential. silence and inaction are not an option." jonathan, i take it that you
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agree? do you also believe that businesses and partners of kanye west should speak out and pull away from him until he renounces anti-semitism in all forms? >> yeah, joe. look, i think ari emmanuel is exactly right. fighting hate is an all-hands-on-deck effort. we all have to be on the field and play our part. it was important that meta on instagram and twitter took him offline when he was inciting violence by talking about going defcon 3 against jewish people, talking about other anti-semitic tropes, then he doubled down on chris kuo know, last night on piers morgan, so, look, business has a role to play. let's be honest, brands seem to mediate so much of our lives today, and adidas in particular we should talk about this morning. they have a line with kanye.
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drives somewhere reportedly about $2 billion a year, joe. and while think announced that the partnership was under review after the white lives matter controversy a few weeks ago, his anti-semitism, his vicious anti-jewish attacks haven't merited a peep from adidas leadership, literally not a blip. so i've got a letter that i just posted to the adidas ceo along with adidas chairman, also the ceo of bertelsmann, and we think it's critical, critical that adidas says it's a values-driven company live those values, like ari emanuel wrote, and drop him. what else do they need to review? the reality is it's a moment when anti-semitic statements are on the rise. for them to be monetizing kanye,
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and i should point out, they are still dropping his shoes even while the partnership is under review. they have a new shoe slated to drop on the 40th anniversary of the tribute the synagogue. >> first of all, this mental illness defense. they say it's well established he's bipolar. as ar i writes and many people have said, there are hundreds of millions of people in the world with mental illness who don't speak this way, don't use anti-semitic rhetoric. also, i want to get to you on the danger of this kind of -- someone of his position coming out and sort of opening the door a little bit, right, to this normalization of other people saying, okay, maybe it's okay in the public square to say these things out loud. >> you're right on both counts. number one, i don't want to minimize or stigmatize mental illness. i have no clinical background to diagnose kanye west. but you've got to be deranged to
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believe that disney is a, quote, jewish company, that there are jewish record companies or jewish zionists plotting to get you. so we see this from richard spencer, from people like meg gibson, from people like louis farr farrakhan, and kanye jumps to the front of the line as probably the most public and unapologetic anti-semite in america. 31 million followers on twitter, one of the most prominent entertainers in the world. all it takes is one, if you will, deranged person to say i want to do something about that, that people are out to get kanye, i'm going to get them. in the jewish community, we've learned the hard way that we have to be vigilant. whether it's adidas amplifying this brand and monetizing it or not clearly distancing themselves, now is the time for businesses to say they want to run away from hate and run away from kanye west. >> on the part about the danger, just about a month and a half,
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two months ago, jonathan along with the urban league and the asian americans and i had this summit at the white house. and a lot of what we're seeing, i don't think we can minimize the danger and the violence that is encouraged by hate speech and the normalizing of it. and i think that we've got to look at it through those lenses because when you've got people shooting in synagogues and going to tops supermarket and killing ten blacks because they're black, and then you have somebody saying that i'm going to go con 3 or something on jews and saying george floyd didn't die from a knee on his neck, he died from fentanyl, i mean, we can't act like -- they have the right to say it, but businesses that support that and subsidize that, they're normalizing that and makes it dangerous to the
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country. >> that's the question. how valuable is this relationship to adidas they won't walk away? >> it's big profit center. but there's a larger challenge in the business community, i think after the murder of george floyd, the business community came out and spoke about a lot of issues publicly. >> yeah. >> and they were willing to go there, sort of wear their morality on their sleeve in the right way, i would argue. however, i think over the last six months, a year, you've seen it. >> yes. >> this sort of pushback on cancel culture, and some people describe what we talk about here as that. i don't think that is, but they push back on wokism, all of that. i think it's put the ceos in this sort of defensive posture in a way they weren't just 12 months ago. >> yeah. i think andrew is right, things have seemed to recede. look, i don't believe in cancel culture. i believe in counsel culture. when somebody makes a mistake,
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you embrace them and give them the opportunity to be educated, but you also have to have consequences. adidas is a company that outfitted the hitler youth. they have deep relationship to the third reich from the '30s and the '40s. for this company to be monetizing kanye west at this moment, making money on anti-semitism, every member of the board should have already stood up and said enough. >> owe. >> andrew, we heard, though -- and i heard corporations are stepping back and they don't want to get involved in cases. it's pretty clear cut. this is just -- >> adidas should be out there saying enough of this. but for reasons that i think are -- maybe it is -- there is this whole movement inside the business community to step back
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in part because there's been so much pushback by red states desantis, abbott. you're seeing it. >> andrew, let me finish what i was saying. i know you're excited about this and i encourage your enthusiasm, but let me finish what i'm saying which is we heard a couple years ago after george floyd and colin kaepernick, i can't tell you how many conservatives said, oh, never watching the nfl again. the nfl is going down. look at their ratings. they're going down. the nfl. this is horrible. the nfl is more popular today than ever. >> yes, it is. >> they are printing money. there is no sport -- i can say there's no pop cultural phenomenon as unifying in america as the nfl. so, if you have in this case a guy like kanye who's not only being an anti-semite but also
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attacking george floyd, shouldn't be hard. this should not be hard, should it? >> it should not be hard. call the folks at adidas. it should not be hard. it's not just call them. by the way, call elon musk. i mean, he came out, he could have, you know, roundly condemned it. he said he was troubled by it and called him on the phone. >> that was only after public pressure. elon can do what he wants with twitter and, you know, kanye could buy this failing media platform called parler, but -- >> here's the statement by the media, after repeated efforts to resolve the situation, we have placed the partnership with kanye under review and will continue to co-manage the current product during this period, which means they're still putting out the shoes. >> what else do they need to review? do they need to review the statement about jewish zionists controlling him, about jewish
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record labels owning black people and on and on and on? every consumer of adidas, every investor in adidas should ask themselves, do they want to be part of a company that's monetizing hate. >> we'll see if they change their position. ceo and national director of the anti-defamation league, jonathan greenblatt. a new msnbc film.
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i see the women who marched on washington back in the tay and other women who have never been part of any action. >> a sense of community. this bond that no matter what happens we'll all still be in this for the long run. we are coming back! we are coming back! we are coming back! >> there were these moments in the day when the building would literally come alive. i could people it under my feet. the lieutenant governor referred to the folks who were there as an unruly mob.
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they have since taken that mantra and worn it with pride. >> that was some of the scene inside the texas state capitol in 2013, the 13-hour filibuster by then democratic state senator wendy davis as she tried to prevent the passage of a bill that would have severely limited access to abortion in the state. it's the story of a new film, "shout do you think midnight," the first installment in the documentary series called "the turning point," executive produced by trevor noah. that premieres this sunday. wendy davis joins us live. good morning. good to see you. we'll talk about the film in just a moment, but also what a time to be talking about the issue of abortion in this country and the overturning of roe v. wade and the dobbs decision. what is your assessment of some of the laws that have gone into place since then and the state of the fight for abortion rights? >> well, willie, first of all, thank for having me on.
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you know, back in 2013, when we were fighting that battle, i just couldn't have believed at the time that we would find ourselves where we are right now. i always believed that the supreme court would be a back stop against this republican continued forceful effort against abortion care across this country. and now of course in places like texas, if you aid or abet or perform an abortion, if you're a front line health care worker or abortion care proponent who helps someone access an abortion, you can literally ala that we see that kind of consequence, but what we really need to think about is the day to day impact that's happening across this country in almost half of the states in this country for women who have lost
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their access to this care and what it means in their lives, in their futures and not just for them and their personal family and their family economies, but what it means for the economy as a whole when women lose access to reproductive autonomy. i cannot overstate how tremendously negative that impact is going to be over the long term. >> wendy, elise jordan here. do you think the debate on abortion and reproductive rights has shifted since the moment when you held that 13-hour filibuster? and how has the discussion changed in the debate since that, you know, i think it was 2013, so almost ten years ago. >> yeah. such a good question, elise because, you know, republican lawmakers and candidates across the country for a long time have been telling people, we are going to take this right away
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from you. this is something that we are asking you to elect us to do. and yet somehow voters kept voting for them, even people who believe that we should have access to abortion care, believing that it was never going to happen. and the reality today, of course, is they told you what they were going to do. they did it. and now what are you going to do about it? and i think back in 2013 people just couldn't believe that we would find ourselves where we are today in spite of those candidates telling us this is exactly what they were going to do. >> so wendy, the moment that got national attention in 2013, captivated hundreds of millions of people around the nation. so tell us, though, the movie on sunday, what new will we learn? why should people watch to such a familiar moment? >> thank you for that question, jonathan. i hope that what people take
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away from the film is a sense of hope, honestly, in spite of where we find ourselves today because the film is about the ripple impacts of what can happen when we stand up and shout down an injustice, both figuratively and literally. it's a story of what can happen when people get inspired by the actions of those that they see standing up to fight. two young women who went on to do remarkable things, inspired by that moment. and it's a reminder to us that even in those moments where we lose, as teddy roosevelt said in his famous arena speech, there is no effort without error and shortcoming that in those moments of error and shortcoming we cannot give up. we've got to stay in the arena. and i hope that this film inspires people to do exactly
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that. >> we will be watching. the film is "shouting downed my knight" premieres this sunday at 10:00 p.m. eastern on msnbc and of course, always streaming on peacock. wendy davis, thanks for being here. it's great to see you. >> great to see you, too. thank you, willie. we'll be right back with more "morning joe." be right bach more "morning joe. when moderate to severe ulcerative colitis persists... put it in check with rinvoq, a once-daily pill. when uc got unpredictable,... i got rapid symptom relief with rinvoq. check. when uc held me back... i got lasting, steroid-free remission with rinvoq. check. and when uc got the upper hand... rinvoq helped visibly repair the colon lining. check. rapid symptom relief. lasting, steroid-free remission. and a chance to visibly repair the colon lining. check. check. and check. rinvoq can lower your ability to fight infections, including tb. serious infections and blood clots, some fatal; cancers, including lymphoma and skin cancer; death, heart attack, stroke, and tears in the stomach or intestines occurred. people 50 and older...
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the conservative party. >> there you go. >> well, andrew, that's it. >> so andrew, the markets, the markets had a lot to do with everything that happened there. what's next? >> i think what's next is volatility. no matter what happens i think the possibility of getting this all back in terms of bringing some credibility back to the table is not going to happen soon. even if you get, you know, a new person in quickly, i don't think -- i don't think this resolves itself. we were talking earlier about brexit, i think the natural experiment has now played out and we have seen what has happened. it is a resounding failure. >> and john, now -- >> full stop. >> labor calling for general election, obviously conservatives want to push the next person in. >> british media reports that jeremy hunt, at least for now, is saying he won't stand leader. times of london reports boris johnson very much wants back. >> of course he does. >> tory sending signals he would like to serve as prime minister
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again. >> "the new york times" described it he left liz truss behind him as land mine so he could come in afterward and rescue the party. we'll see. >> that is a story line, though -- he was ushered out of downing street like a dog with a tail between his legs. now might be going back. >> i don't know if you saw anthony scaramucci wrote -- >> 4.1 scaramuccis scale of how long she was in office. >> enjoying your focus groups. incredible stuff out of those from pennsylvania. we'll have more tomorrow on the show. what can we expect? >> we have so much more. we have voters from every sector of the electorate talking about inflation, crime, their thoughts on the economy going forward, their thoughts on president biden. we had a little preview of that today. we dig deep into abortion and we talk to pennsylvania voters about how they plan to vote in the contested senate race with dr. oz and john fetterman and in that governor's race, too. >> we look forward to that tomorrow on "morning joe." of course the all-important
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question, mike, can america's team, the new york yankees take game two tonight against the cheaters of houston? >> well, willie, thank you for raising the issues of the real world. your yankee season comes down to louis on the mound today. if he loses, you're done for the winter. it's time to put the storm windows on. >> wow. wow. that's tough. before we get to our aces back in new york, joe. so, we'll see if we can even things up tonight, but again it's an uphill climb when you have hall of fame talent plus rampant, unrepentant cheating. it's a tough combination. >> thank you, houston. it's been great having you with us this morning. hope you'll tune in tomorrow morning. that does it for us today. jose diaz-balart picks up the coverage. mika, why are you in the shot? >> is that mika? >> that's mika. she just walked in the shot. don't get in front of that camera. >> sorry. >> you know, she's never done tv before. jose, please
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