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game two tonight against the cheaters of houston? >> well, willie, thank you for raising the issues of the real world. your yankee season comes down to louis on the mound today. if he loses, you're done for the winter. it's time to put the storm windows on. >> wow. wow. that's tough. before we get to our aces back in new york, joe. so, we'll see if we can even things up tonight, but again it's an uphill climb when you have hall of fame talent plus rampant, unrepentant cheating. it's a tough combination. >> thank you, houston. it's been great having you with us this morning. hope you'll tune in tomorrow morning. that does it for us today. jose diaz-balart picks up the coverage. mika, why are you in the shot? >> is that mika? >> that's mika. she just walked in the shot. don't get in front of that camera. >> sorry. >> you know, she's never done tv before. jose, please take it from us.
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now. what are you doing? ♪♪ and good morning. thanks, joe. it's 10:00 a.m. eastern, 7:00 a.m. pacific i'm jose diaz-balart. we begin this hour with breaking news from london where british prime minister liz truss announced a short time ago she is resigning after being in office for 44 days. >> i recognize, though, given the situation i cannot deliver the mandate on which i was elected by the conservative party. i therefore spoken to his majesty, the king, to notify him that i am resigning as leader of the conservative party. >> her resignation comes after a series of high profile resignations and revolt by members of her conservative party over her economic plan. truss is by far the shortest serving prime minister in british history. with us now to talk about this from london, nbc news foreign
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correspondent kelly cobella. >> reporter: it was a string of issues i guess you could say. problems unforced errors for the prime minister over the past six weeks or so. she said today that she realized, recognized, that she could not deliver the mandate on which she was elected. keeping in mind she was elected by conservative party members, by tens of thousands of people in this country of 67 million. but that's how the system works here. once she was put into place she announced just a few weeks ago this sweeping program of unfunded billions in unfunded tax cuts and it crashed the markets. it sent the currency tumbling. inflation here is already at a very high rate at 10%, climbing to 10% just this week. energy prices are high.
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and this package did not go down well. in fact, it went down so badly that she had to reverse herself. she fired her top finance minister, put someone else in place just in the past six days or so. reversed all of those unfunded tax cuts and then really in the past 24 hours what you might say could have been the final straw. really last night there was a parliamentary vote. there were accusations during that vote of man handling and bullying, of forcing ministers to vote a certain way, to vote with the government. there were reports of the chief whip and deputy whip for the conservative party walking out, basically resigning the middle of this vote. and generally an awful lot of chaos and by this morning, you had -- even last night you had members of the conservative party openly saying that liz truss had to go, all leading to this resignation.
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extraordinary resignation statement today. liz truss saying that she came to meet with king charles just a week after having her very first audience with him, her formal briefing with him. coming to notify him that she was resigning as prime minister. jose, one more point quickly to make, the conservative party essentially has to pick the prime minister now. that's how the rules work. typically that would go out to a vote of party grass roots party members. but the rules now may be changing because liz truss said that the next prime minister would be in place by next week. jose? >> steven, so this process that for the torys at least they want it to be done by next week. it doesn't bode well for that party. and you know, you have labor asking for elections. is that something that's possible now? >> well, it's hard to say
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because on the one hand, in our system, the choice to go to the election, you have to do so by a certain date in this case, by january 2025. but the prime minister of the day can choose to go to the country earlier if they want. but of course they tend not to do that when it looks like they're going to lose very, very badly. and all of the polls and all of the evidence we have is if there were an election tomorrow, the conservative party would go down not just to defeat but such a bad defeat it might cease to exist entirely as a political party. on the other hand, because they're so divided, it's not clear they can pass a budget do the things they need to do to reassure the markets. they may be forced into an election at a time they don't want. yeah, anything could happen. everything is very much up in the air here. >> steven, does that include boris johnson coming back? >> yeah. look, that is an outside
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possibility. conservatives got rid of him because they were tired to defend his scandals, apologize for his slightly extracurricular behavior. but when you're looking at polls like the ones we're seeing now, where total wipeout, almost destruction of the conservative party, you can see how some of them think, look, he knows how to win an election. we will be able to resist some of the calls to have another election. he'll do the things, look, i've changed. i turn oefrd a new leaf. and maybe enough of them will believe him for them to give him another chance. i don't think that will happen. i think this had gone on another couple months they might have got desperate enough, but i don't think the conservative party is yet at a point of panic where they're willing to forgive boris johnson for his sins. >> stephen busch and kelly cobiella, i thank you for being with us this morning. back here in the u.s., both parties are making their final
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pushes with less than three weeks until the critical midterm elections. today president biden heads to battleground pennsylvania again for democratic senate candidate john fetterman as republican mehmet oz closes in on fetterman's lead. joining us now with more is nbc news white house correspondent mike memoli live from philadelphia. also with us is nbc news correspondent ellison barber from maken, georgia. also joining us nbc news washington correspondent yamiche alcindor, moderator of washington week on pbs. what can we expect from the president's visit to pennsylvania this week? >> less than three weeks to go until the midterm elections and we'll see from president biden much of what we have seen throughout the year which is he'll hold an official event but one with an eye towards helping democrats up and down the ballot here in this key state. he's going to be returning to pittsburgh, actually to the same site he visited in january.
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it was then he was planning to go to pittsburgh to talk about the new bipartisan infrastructure law before air force one had even touched down that day. a bridge had collapsed in the city. president went to the site and then only seemed to underscore the need for that new infrastructure law. so today the president is going to be heading there joined by the lieutenant governor john fetterman, the senate nominee to announce the administration is going to with that new funding from the infrastructure law replace that bridge within a year. year the president will head here to philadelphia with fetterman for a political event reception for the senate nominee. you know, jose, pennsylvania really is key not just to 2022 but to 2024 as well. you can tell by the fact that when the president touchs down here in pennsylvania, it will be his 16th time in the state, more by far than any other state for official or political events. in fact, when he comes here to philadelphia, it will be the eighth time he's been here to this city alone. that's more than 46 other
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states. so this is a president who knows that if democrats don't win the senate race here in pennsylvania, it's very hard to see them holding on to their majority in the senate and as the president thinks about his own re-election, we remember what state put him over 270 electoral votes last time, it was, of course, his birthday here in pennsylvania, jose. >> and ellison, meanwhile you're in georgia where we're seeing record midterm early voting turnout where the economy is a major factor for voters heading to the polls. politico play book put it this morning, it's the gas prices, stupid. what are you hearing ellison from people there? >> reporter: yeah, voters are very frustrated with the cost of gas. they're worried about inflation in this state. and they're talking about it a lot. the senate candidates are as well. at a campaign event in atlanta last night incumbent senator raphael warnock emphasized the need for washington to hold oil companies accountable for what he described as their record profits while we're paying
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record prices. herschel walker, he talks about it a lot as well. he places the blame for the rise in gas prices in particularly squarely on the shoulders of president biden and senator warnock. look, we have spent a lot of time talking to voters in this state. and for months we have heard from them regardless of their political affiliation that gas prices are something they're very worried about. listen to some of what we have been hearing just in the last day or so. >> i've already voted aened it did affect the way i cast my ballot. and it's very, very important. >> it's definitely an issue because since i live in grin net and drive to decater, a lot of gas, sitting in traffic. it affects us teachers because we haven't seen that price adjustment for our cost of living. >> reporter: we've asked everyone about biden's latest announcement, his decision to release 15 million barrels of oil from the strategic reserve.
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most democrats we have spoken to say that is a helpful step. most republicans we have spoken to they say that is a politically motivated move. but every single person we have spoken to they say gas prices, the cost of groceries, inflation is something they're paying attention to and they all say it is factoring into the way they vote. jose? >> and yamiche, you been closely following the role of election security in these midterm races and the prevalence of election deniers running for secretary of state. what have you learned? >> well, jose, good morning. my story is going to be airing on "meet the press reports" tonight. the false claim that the 2020 election was stolen has now become a critical gop talking point and part of the party's larger approach to elections, national organizations are recruiting poll workers and poll watchers to become part of the election systems across this country. that's the people who are going to be counting the votes. and state republican officials have been using their power to pass new laws that critics say
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will restrict voting access, make it easier to overturn election results and criminalize voting in unfair ways. florida's republican governor ron desantis created an election police force that is facing fierce, fierce criticism. here is a clip featuring the florida secretary of state who i interviewed defending the state's actions. take a listen. >> just a coincidence right now that you're starting with mostly democratic, heavily populated -- >> i know what you're trying to say. >> it is what i'm saying, yeah. >> that's where the volume is. miami dade county has 1.5 million voters. >> so when critics say you're going after democratic-led counties, democratic-leaning counties, your response is? >> absolutely false. >> so you have the secretary of state there really offering a full throated defense of their actions and of course we saw that new video from the tampa bay times where you saw people getting arrested and being confused. now, while he's saying these are all good actions and they're being done in noble ways,
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advocates are saying that voter verification process on the front end isn't working the way it should. many people who have been arrested, 20 so far, got voter ids from the state, months later that same state is arresting them. this is like the state of florida giving someone a driver's license and then years later or months later going after that person and arresting them for using it. jose? >> yamiche, ellison, mike thank you very much. and still ahead, we'll be talking more about the midterms with house majority whip congressman jim clyburn. congressman, great to see you. we'll chat in just a second. still ahead, an nbc news exclusive, why dozens like fortune 500 apple and microsoft are stepping in to help hundreds of thousands of dreamers.
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16 past the hour. 19 days before the midterm elections.
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people across the country say the rising cost of food, of gas, housing, heat are among their top concerns. with us now to talk about this is house majority whip congressman james clyburn of south carolina. i thank you for being with us this morning. always a pleasure to see you. congressman what do you say to people who say, boy, washington can talk about all these big programs and everything else, but i'm worried about the cost of food. i'm seeing the cost of eggs shoot up, chicken, gasoline, you know, coming now with the winter, heating. these are all concerns that hit very directly to people who may say, you know, what's going on in d.c. doesn't think of us. >> well, let me make it very clear, all of us are concerned about these rising costs. all of us knew this would be the case when we put in place this recovery program. any time you put more money into
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the economy, prices tend to rise. and we do know that price gouging takes place and that's what we're concerned in georgia. we knew the moment we went to aid the ukrainians, the russians would do what they could possibly do to undercut this administration, so they cut this deal with opec nations to reduce the production of oil so as to drive the price of gasoline up. we are not going to allow these kinds of intimidations be it by big, corporations who are raising prices when they should not be or foreign countries who are doing untoward things in retaliation for our aallies. that's not going to trump and that's an intended pun there our
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concern for people getting back on their feet in this country, getting more cash in people's hands, getting people back to work, fixing our infrastructure. when we passed inflation reduction act, we took into account that we were going to do what was necessary to cap the cost of medicine. that's what we did, allowing medicare to negotiate for drug prices. we already seeing that the price of the medicine going down 30%, that was to take into account the things that we knew would happen in the market if we did not do something. we kept insulin for seniors at 35 dollars per month. and we project to do the same -- the co-payment at $2,000 a year. so that's exactly why we are doing what we're doing because we knew we had to combat inflation. and i don't know if anybody who will say i would rather pay $10
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or even 10 cents or even 20 cents less per gallon and allow you to take my rights away, my voting rights away and these other things that we know the other party is doing to suppress votes. that's a fool's choice we will not make. >> but why ask people to make that choice? in other words, does economic policy necessarily equate what you're talking about? >> economic policy is always a concern. look, i came out of a household that had difficulty with voting rights. if you can take away my voting rights, just give me ten cents a gallon less to pay for gas and you can have my voting rights. no. people are voting on more than whether or not you run up the cost of gasoline. they're voting on whether or not
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we're going to have lower costs for medicine, which they're getting from this administration. they're voting on whether or not we have voting rights, which they're getting from this administration. will whether or not we fix our crumbling infrastructure, which we are getting. whether or not we do the things that are necessary to get people back to work. that's what we're getting. unemployment rate at historic lows because people are going back to work. i don't know anybody who would rather stay home from work so long as they can pay 10 cents a gallon less for gasoline. that's not a choice that we're going to offer the american people. >> congressman, you played a huge role in helping president joe biden get to the white house. what do you see as his biggest successes? and do you think that he's had any failures? >> well, we all sometimes do things that may not have the expectations that we would like, but this president has restored
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the american's confidence in this democracy. he came into office at a time when covid-19 was running rampant throughout the country. people were dying. over a million people dying. he arrested all of that. he put cash in people's pockets. he put children back in school. unshuttered businesses. and we are now tackling our infrastructure, the largest infrastructure plan since eisenhower's interstate highway we have now put in place. broadband in every home. schools getting fixed up for climate change. and we are doing the things that are necessary to reduce costs for medicine, other things that people need. people are not going to be making choices now whether to take half a pill or half a dose of their medicine so as to buy groceries. we are taking all that into account. this has been a great success of
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this president. i call this the great recovery as opposed to the great society. lyndon johnson gave us a great society program. and joe biden is giving us a great recovery. the largest infrastructure since eisenhower. the largest progressive program since lyndon johnson's great society. this is nothing to sneeze at. and the american people recognize that. and i resent people who feel that we would much rather not have jobs and education so long as we can pay ten cents less for a gallon of gasoline. >> so congressman, if he runs again, will you again support him? >> i suspect i will. i don't see why i would not. you know, i know everybody is concerned. i will wait until the president let's us know what he is going to do after we have these midterm elections.
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my job right now is to win these elections. i was in north carolina all day yesterday. i'm going back to north carolina tomorrow. i'm going to ohio, iowa on sunday, going to indiana on monday. we are trying to win this election. i'm not concerned about 2024 until we get beyond november 8th, 2022. >> well, congressman jim clyburn, i very much appreciate your time. i always appreciate you being with us this morning. >> thank you so much for having me. >> thanks. coming up, what a federal judge is ordering a former trump lawyer to turn over to the house january 6th committee. you're watching "jose diaz-balart reports." e diaz-balart reports. so am i. because i'm at risk for pneumococcal pneumonia. i'm asking about prevnar 20. because there's a chance pneumococcal pneumonia could put me in the hospital. if you're 19 or older with certain chronic conditions like copd, asthma, or diabetes,
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27 past the hour. this morning another legal setback for donald trump. a federal judge has now ordered former trump lawyer john eastman to hand over 33 additional documents to the house panel investigating the january 6th insurrection ruling those materials are not protected by attorney/client privilege. the judge also said that in one of the email exchanges trump knew that the number of voter fraud cases his team cited in a federal lawsuit were false. joining us now with more is nbc news capitol hill correspondent ally vitale. also with us is lisa ruben, legal analyst for the rachel maddow show. what does this ruling mean for the committee's search for answers? >> they're getting more information they get to pore over. it's important when you think about the 33 emails, pour of them, according to the judge, relate to the trump campaign and the trump white house basically trying to just slow down or
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stall out the certification of the electors in places like georgia by tying them up in court. another four of the emails, though, in the words of the judge, demonstrate an effort by trump and his attorneys to press false claims in federal court for the purpose of delaying the january 6th vote. this is where the judge brings up what you were just talking about, the fact that they signed under oath a paper that talked about false numbers of people who were voting fraudulently, even when trump and his attorneys knew that those numbers were not real. what the judge concludes after reading through john eastman's emails is that part of the reason they're not privileged is, a, that some of them were not privy to attorney/client privilege but also because some of the other emails were part of trying to do a crime or actually doing a crime. and so certainly that's why the committee is going to be able to get their hands on this information. but the judge at one point says in summation that these emails in his reading of them represent an attempt for conspiracy to
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defraud the united states of america. >> lisa, you said that after trump's deposition in the e. jean carroll case his day went from bad to awful with this eastman ruling. why is this a big deal for the former president? >> it's a big deal for the former president not only for the reasons that ali just identified. it's giving further ammunition to the january 6th committee as they're preparing their final report. this is the best, written evidence that i've seen that former president trump knew that the claims that he was pressing in courts of law and to the public were false. it's not just evidence, though, for the committee, jose. it's evidence for the department of justice as they continue with their january 6th investigation. and it's evidence for fani willis, the fullen county georgia district attorney who also has an investigation that's on going. i would note that all eight of the emails that the judge yesterday found to be potential evidence of criminal conduct, concerned georgia itself. so these are right within the
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wheelhouse of what fani willis is looking at, jose. >> lisa, so now the trump has been deposed in the e. jean carroll suit. where does the case go from there? >> right now the case is currently on appeal. one of the questions is was trump acting within his scope of employment as president when he allegedly defamed e. jean carroll by denying he had ever sexually assaulted her, much less that he knew her. however, last week when he was ordered to appear for his deposition, he doubled down on those allegations and he went to truth social and repeated all of the same allegedly defamatory statements. he has essentially eviscerated his best defense for the defamation case and has given e. jean carroll and her lawyers very good cause to amend their complaint and say, donald trump not only said these things while he was president, but he said these things as a private citizen. to the extent they can prove that they were false and trump knew they were false when they
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said them, that's another problem for the former president where he faces serious civil liability, jose. >> lisa and ali, thank you. up next, the calms -- he calls it a scheme that goes all the way to the supreme court. senator shelden whitehouse will be with us what he calls the secret dark money operation to control the nation's courts and why americans should be very worried about it. senator, good to see you. we'll chat in just a second. to u we'll chat in just a second. n with a new puppy. thankfully, we also have new tide ultra-oxi with odor eliminators. between stains and odors, it can handle double trouble. for the #1 stain fighter and odor remover, it's got to be tide. my active psoriatic arthritis can slow me down. for the #1 stain fighter and odor remover, now, skyrizi helps me get going by treating my skin and joints. along with significantly clearer skin, skyrizi helps me move with less joint pain, stiffness, swelling, and fatigue. and skyrizi is just 4 doses a year after two starter doses. skyrizi attaches to and reduces
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ukraine. we will continue our close cooperation with the uk government as we work together to meet the global challenges our nations face. nbc news contributor wilfred frost joins us now from outside 10 downing street in london. great seeing you. how extraordinary are these turn of events? >> reporter: oh, completely and utterly nuts, jose, as you said. the accolade of being the shortest serving prime minister in history, just 45 days in office. how did we get here? a leader who only had a narrow mandate to govern bet the house on an aggressive set of policies right of center policies. when the market called her out on those economic policies, as you mentioned, she was forced to u turn and that alienate herd very narrow base. she didn't have the time or the capability to build a broader coalition of supporters in their place. now, we're told that we'll have
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a new prime minister within a week. that's a sign that the conservative party will try to kabul its mped to back a single unity candidate. something that will have to be seen to be believed because those divisions are incredibly deep. and names from penny to richie to boris johnson being mentioned. but either way, the uk will have its third prime minister in the matter of months in just a couple of days. >> wilfred frost from london. thank you so very much. the midterm elections here are still 19 days away, but outside groups have already broken their record for the highest amount ever spent on a midterm. open secrets reports outside groups have poured $1.3 billion into the 2022 midterms surpassing the $1 billion spent in 2018. but dark money isn't just being used for elections. for the past years, rhode island senator shelden whitehouse talked about what he calls a scheme by right wing groups to
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use dark money to capture america's courts. including the u.s. supreme court. he spoke out about it on the senate floor and during confirmation hearings for justices amy coney barrett and ketanji brown jackson. here is him in march. >> she is before us on the basis of her own merit. not on the recommendation of a secretive right wing donor operation hiding behind anonymous multimillion dollar donations and aimed at capturing the united states supreme court as if it were some 19th century railroad commission. the unpleasant fact is that the present court is the court that dark money built. >> senator whitehouse details what is going on in a new book titled "the scheme how the right wing used dark money to capture the supreme court." and senator shelden joins us this morning for which i am eternally grateful. good to see you, senator. what exactly does what you call
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this scheme work? >> well, back to my analogy to the old corrupt railroad commissions of the past that were captured by the railroad interests and did what they were told, you primarily do it by stalking the agency or in this case the supreme court with people who you have selected to be loyal to your interests and to put your interests ahead of doing their job in a responsible and independent way. so you look back at the federalist society, which housed a selection process that was very secretive, but that produced the lists for donald trump and we think the actual recommendations that trump put forward. at the same time that they were receiving enormous multimillion dollar anonymous donations. if that's not a prescription for corruption and trouble i don't know what is. >> no, senator, look, you've been shining a light on the use of dark money by the right.
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but a new york times analysis of the 2020 election found that 15 of the most politically active nonprofit organizations generally align with the democratic party spent more than $1.5 billion in 2020 compared to roughly $900 million spent by comparable sample of the 15 most politically active groups aligned with the gop. so how you put an end to the use of dark money by groups on both sides, senator? >> well, you do it by passing the disclose act which is my bill. and which got a vote recently on the senate floor. and in which every single democratic senator voted to get rid of this damn stuff. and every single republican senator opposed us and protected the dark money operation. and that's a terrible situation for citizens because when you get the kind of money that you've described, these billions of dollars in elections, it's really hard for elected officials not to pay attention to those multimillion dollar
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donors and turn their eyes away from regular citizens. someone can spend $50 million in a race to protect your seat, and hide who they are, that's a bad prescription for democracy and bad for citizens. >> and so why should and how should the american people pay attention to what you're saying and what you're writing about in your book? what is it that the average person can do when you're looking at just untold amount of money that is very difficult to find sourcing of. >> yeah. i think people already mad about it. i think learning to understand that if you don't know the group that is in your living room, putting their toxic waste of advertising on to your tv screen, you should basically ignore it and treat it as propaganda and nonsense. and most of these ads come through phony front groups that everybody knows that they never do business with, have never
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seen before, come and go. it's a convenient mask for whoever is behind them. i think learning to ignore the poison that gets pushed on to your device or into your television if you don't know who is vouching for it is important. and then frankly keep pressing the republicans to help us get rid of this dark money. we're not trying to get rid of democratic dark money. we're trying to get rid of all dark money. we're trying to turn democracy back to voters so that these multitens of millions of dollar contributors don't quietly rule in our country. >> senator sheldon whitehouse a pleasure to see you. i thank you for being with us this morning. >> my pleasure. up next, heart breaking images from ukraine where children are facing the unimaginable, why some elementary school students are suiting up and heading into bomb shelters. you're watching "jose diaz-balart reports" on msnbc. e
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but also the fact is that we're going into -- coming into winter and power is going to be a main issue. >> reporter: yeah. overnight the temperatures really plummeted here. this is the first day where it has felt like winter and couldn't come at a worst time because, of course, winter is being timed with vladimir putin knocking out these power stations. as you said somewhere between 30 now and 40% of those stations are not working, which means everybody is taking their turn around this city with four hours without power. everybody sort of goes through these rolling blackouts now. the hope is it won't get worse, but of course russia's bombardment continues. as for the school kids, school has been cancelled off and on in the last ten days because of these rocket strikes. we tried to get to this school three separate times and were stopped because of air raid sirens and rockets. but in the background of it is this threat of nuclear war. it is affecting the kids as you would expect but also affecting, jose the parents who have been through so much with their kids. i asked one mother if she's able to talk to her son about this over the dinner table. here is what she had to say.
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>> not with him right now. >> no. >> nope. because past seven months they are quite harmful on his mental health and et cetera, of course. he's okay. it's all right right now, but when the sounds of drones or rockets or booms, oh momma. is everything okay? >> reporter: the most striking thing to us, jose, as these kids would put on these suits, they were all homemade suits. you can see them here. some of the little kids, even had their swim caps, swim goggles, using whatever athletic equipment their parents could give them. this is a sign of the times in ukraine. this is something talked about here all the time in the capital when you meet people in the streets. i have a plan. i know how to get out of the city. it is truly a bizarre thing indeed, jose. >> indeed bizarre.
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cal perry in kyiv. thank you very much. ambassador, now on wednesday putin declard martial law. what led to putin to do this now? what's he trying to accomplish now? >> jose, this is more indication that he has no options. that he is desperate for options. he knows he's losing on the battlefield. he knows that his russian troops are being pushed back by ukrainian forces. out of this country, back towards the borders. president putin knows that he's in trouble politically, both internationally, even the chinese and indians are not supporting him. but at home, he's got people fleeing the country the countryy don't want this war. they don't want to fight in this war. this is not their war. this is his war. he's got people on his right, jose, who are pressing him to do more, more damage. what this is, what you just saw in kyiv is war crimes. i mean, these attacks on these
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energy facilities, that's war crimes, jose. let's be clear. what's he trying to do, he's trying to make it even more difficult for the ukrainians who live in these occupied territories to live. he is making them more angry. he's making people angry in these occupied territories. they're more determined than ever to win this war. but, ambassador, with winter just right around the corner, cal was saying that the temperatures dropped overnight and, you know, with up to 40% of the electrical infrastructure, either damaged or destroyed. how concerned are you about ukrainians facing winter, i'm talking about electricity, i'm talking about their food. >> very concerned, jose. very concerned. again, this is the activity of a war criminal. these are atrocities. this is probably genocide. what putin is trying to do is wipe out the ukrainians.
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he's failing on the battlefield and so now he's trying to do it in other ways, by doing exactly the kind of things that you're just describing. yes, this is a problem. ukrainians are more determined than ever to win, and we should be more determined than ever, the europeans should be more determined than ever to help them win, to help them through this winter. they're going to need the help, they're going to need electricity, they're going to need fuel supplies, they're going to need finances. we need to help them make it through this winter so they will win this war. >> ambassador william taylor, always a pleasure to see you. thank you. >> thank you. hundreds of thousands of dreamers could lose protection from deportation in a matter of months. what dozens of fortune 500 companies are doing right now to try and stop that. you're watching "jose diaz-balart reports." e diaz-balart reports. what will you do? ♪ what will you change? ♪ will you make something better?
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55 past the hour. shining a light on an nbc news exclusive. a new push by dozens of fortune 500 companies to protect more than 600,000 daca recipients. the end of daca would greatly hurt the economy as federal courts seem likely to end the executive order that has protected dreamers since 2012. joining us now is julia ainsley.
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is this corporate push going to make a difference? >> well, people who we're speaking to is saying probably not. it looks like with republicans due to make gains in the midterms and the fact that there's little appetite now in congress to do anything on daca or immigration reform overall, it might be that this business push is just too little too late. but the businesses are saying that if congress doesn't act, they are going to see an even bigger hit to the economy. 22,000 jobs lost per month. in texas alone, that means 400 health care workers and 300 teachers would be walking out of the workforce every month. so they're asking congress to do more. but i'm told by congressional aides that unless they're reaching out to key republicans, because they need at least ten republicans on board to get daca into codified legislation. they won't be able to get anywhere. republicans say they don't want to do anything on immigration
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reform until they see president biden enforcing laws and they see it as an international human right, jose. >> the fact is that this side sees something, the other side sees something, and the final result of it is that while people are seeing different things, nothing gets done. >> that's right. but for over 600,000 dreamers, they lose their jobs and there's a big hit on those critical industries. i've interviewed physicians treating children who will have to walk out of their job and could face deportation. we could probably expect, of course, a biden administration wouldn't move to deport these people, but their jobs is something that they really aren't in a position to be able to save. jose, you and i have talked at length about the fact that the immigration reform that we would have seen in 2014 probably wouldn't be agreed to now by
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either party. it's very hard to see how they would come up with a consensus on daca or anything else in a lame duck or especially anything after that. >> where does daca stand in the court system right now? >> it looks like the courts are about to end daca. we saw the fifth circuit say that it was illegal but that people who still have it could keep it. the same thing happened in a lower court. we're expecting the judge to say that those who -- that a new daca ruling that would allow more to apply is also illegal. and the supreme court now that it's become more conservative wants it gets up to that point, we're expecting that they could find it illegal. it could be a matter of months before we start seeing these losses. >> julia ainsley, someone who is studying and thinking and investigating these issues, thank you so much for being with us this morning. >> thank you. we're following breaking news out of panama where a powerful 6.7 magnitude earthquake struck this morning. the u.s. geological service says
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it originated off panama's southern coast. reuters reports it was felt in part of panama city, the capital. there were no reports of damage or injuries. i want to finish with good news for certainly part of florida devastated by hurricane ian. sanibel island causeway is now back open after temporary repairs. take a look at this video. the category four storm struck directly in the area, hitting residents of that small coastal community. take a look at the before and after. before, we're talking about just a couple of weeks ago, the storm surge destroyed sections of the causeway. it's the only bridge linking the island of about 6,000 to the mainland. it was scheduled to be reopened at the end of the month, but officials say 36,000 work hours went into getting repairs done ahead of schedule. really amazing how quicklyhe

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