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it originated off panama's southern coast. reuters reports it was felt in part of panama city, the capital. there were no reports of damage or injuries. i want to finish with good news for certainly part of florida devastated by hurricane ian. sanibel island causeway is now back open after temporary repairs. take a look at this video. the category four storm struck directly in the area, hitting residents of that small coastal community. take a look at the before and after. before, we're talking about just a couple of weeks ago, the storm surge destroyed sections of the causeway. it's the only bridge linking the island of about 6,000 to the mainland. it was scheduled to be reopened at the end of the month, but officials say 36,000 work hours went into getting repairs done ahead of schedule. really amazing how quickly the
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repairs are occurring. that wraps up the hour for me. i'm jose diaz-balart. you can reach me on twitter and instagram. thank you for the privilege of your time. alex witt picks up with more news right now. ♪♪ good morning, everyone. i'm alex witt here at msnbc world headquarters in new york. breaking across the pond, a political earthquake. just 44 days, that is how long prime minister liz truss was in office before resigning just in the last few hours. >> i recognize, though, given the situation, i cannot deliver the mandate on which i was elected by the conservative party. >> this makes truss now the shortest-serving prime minister in 301 years. one british journalist wrote in the "new york times" days ago as political pressure mounted, quote, he was boris johnson's
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departing gift, a human land mine to level the ground for his possible return. in a sign of just how tenuous her standing was and perhaps how brutal uk politics can be, a british newspaper began tracking a head of lettuce to see if the embattled truss would last longer than the produce and it did. whoever succeeds truss, will be the uk's third prime minister this year. meanwhile, here at home, any minute, president biden will leave the white house for a battleground pennsylvania. he's going to talk infrastructure in pittsburgh then he's going to jump to philadelphia to support john fetterman in his nail bite of a race with dr. oz as democrats fight to keep control of congress grappling with inflation, crime and uncertainty over whether abortion is enough of a motivating issue. this headline, the "new york times," is not what they want to see. democrats feared red october has arrived. ahead, we're going to get an
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update on key races in two critical states that could determine the balance of power in the senate. we begin with breaking news in the uk. liz truss announcing this morning she will resign as prime minister just 44 days after she was appointed. starting us off, wilfred frost, nbc news white house correspondent josh letterman and linda colley who is right now in the uk. welcome all. big question is, who might be a front-runner to replace truss and how soon could we find out? >> reporter: if we look at the betting markets, it's rishi sunak. penny mordaunt also put her name? and, of course, boris johnson who needs no introduction.
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one candidate has ruled himself out of the running, jeremy hunt, who thinks he needs to stay in his place for economic stability. i think the key part of the process, it will be fast. a new prime minister in place by next friday. the hope in the conservative party is that will encourage mps to unit and fall in quickly behind one candidate. >> linda, moving to you, truss' undoing began when she announced the aggressive tax cuts. so to give an idea of how fast this all has happened, here's truss yesterday in parliament. >> mr. speaker, i am a fighter, not a quitter. i have acted in the national interest to make sure that we
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can economic stability. >> i mean, linda, leaders make unpopular decisions all the time. why was the reaction here so swift and so vicious? >> i think it's partly because of the sort of person that liz truss is. she's phenomenal ambitious. she wanted this job. but she doesn't have the necessary qualities and i think that was recognized very quickly, a cruel but fairly accurate conservative politician described her as, i quote, charmless, graceless, brainless and useless. and that's a tad unkind. but in order to be a successful prime minister in britain, you've got to have the personality, the gifts to command the house of commons. and i'm afraid as the snatch of film you showed demonstrates, she just didn't have the personality or the gifts.
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so even before the specific thing she did, i think there was a problem in her personality, but i think this longer-term problem is with the conservative party as well. >> which makes you wonder how in the world she got the position in the first place. i'm going to ask wilfred about that in just a moment. and right now president biden is leaving the white house. he is heading, of course, to pennsylvania, but we should note he is speaking about liz truss and the downfall in her resignation. we know she'll step down as soon as a new prime minister is named. but the question is, josh, with the president now speaking about it, talk about how much this may have ricochetted the possibility of her resignation in the halls of the white house leading up to today? >> reporter: alex, it was only a few days ago that president biden, while he was on his west coast swing, said it was inevitable that liz truss's signature economic plan would not succeed. that he wasn't the only world
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leader that thought it was a bad idea to be cutting taxes on the very wealthiest at a time like this. today in the wake of that stunning resignation, we're not hearing anything like criticism coming from the white house. instead, president biden putting out a statement saying, the u.s. and the united kingdom are strong allies, enduring friends. that won't change. president biden thanking the outgoing prime minister truss for her partnership on issues including he specifically points out in his statement their cooperation on supporting ukraine in its defense against russia. biden going on to say that we'll continue our close cooperation with the uk government as we work together to meet the global challenges our nations face. as you mentioned, president biden, as we speak, is heading to pennsylvania to do some campaigning and, according to our colleague who is on the south lawn watching the president as he was boarding
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marine one, he did stop to talk to reporters telling them that liz truss has been a good partner, going on to say that he is not concerned about the economic spillover from what's happening in the uk. president biden making some other comments supportive of that special relationship with the united kingdom which is going to be so important going forward, no matter who the new prime minister is, particularly when it comes to trying to shore up that support, keep the european allies staunchly in support of ukraine as we get into the winter months. the white house hoping that they will very soon have a partner in place in the uk to be able to continue that work with across the pond, alex. >> to back up the fact that you said that the president was on his way to pennsylvania, we actually saw marine one taking off behind you as you were speaking. thank you for that. and i teased what i was going to ask you because liz truss was boris johnson's personal choice to replace him. she was seen as a very loyal
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lieutenant to him. now there's talk that we could see him again. talk us through the process and are you hearing boris johnson's name being moved about. >> he's believed to be on holiday in the caribbean. we're assessing whether he might be soon to return. i think the key point in terms of the process to appoint the next leader, obviously first and foremost, is it's just with the machinations of the conservative party. we're not talking about a general election. the other point is we're waiting to hear from the committee that oversees this process what the precise details will be. the first point much quicker than last time. a new prime minister in place by next friday. we also are pretty certain the bar of mps nominations to get on the initial short list will be a lot higher, so that initial short list will be a lot shorter. the big remaining question is whether the final choice will be
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done just by mps or, again, by the party membership, about 200,000 conservative party members across the country. if it's the latter, this time it would have to be done online. that final question remains to be seen. he still has great backing amongst the party faithful across the country. and he's certainly in with a shout if he decides to run. >> interesting perspective there. the british people are dealing with brutal economic pain like much of the world. inflation was up there more than 10% in this last month. can you put this chaotic moment into perspective for us? here in the states, just how bad is it there? >> well, of course there's the economic problems, there's the energy problems. there's the back wash of the appalling war at ukraine. but i think what is distinctive in britain is that there's also deep political divisions beyond
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the political parties. the back wash of brexit, the brexit vote in 2016 have been enormous. they're not just economic repercussions, and i don't think it's an accident that since the brexit vote in 2016, the tory party has fragmented much more. there's been full conservative leaders, prime ministers, since 2016. and there's tensions between england, wales, scotland, ireland which has been exacerbated by brexit. what people talk about the economic factors rightly, there are broad issues we have to bear in mind as well. >> absolutely. and i think many of us here in the united states need to look at this analytically and realize there are some parallels to be had in terms of issues here across the pond. thanks to all three of you. good to see you.
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coming up, we're just 19 days out from the midterm elections. how president biden is working to rally voters today in pennsylvania. and charge everything, that's the warning people in ukraine are getting today as more russian strikes hit power stations. the new measures being taken to conservative energy in that country. former president trump could get hit with that subpoena from the january 6th committee today. how members are racing against the clock to wrap up their investigation. racing against the clock to wrap up their investigation. despite treatment it disrupts my skin with itch. it disrupts my skin with rash. but now, i can disrupt eczema with rinvoq. rinvoq is not a steroid, topical, or injection. it's one pill, once a day, that's effective without topical steroids. many taking rinvoq saw clear or almost-clear skin while some saw up to 100% clear skin. plus, they felt fast itch relief some as early as 2 days. that's rinvoq relief. rinvoq can lower your ability to fight infections, including tb.
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♪♪ as we just reported, president biden just left the white house and is on his way to battleground pennsylvania. he's going to pittsburgh first to focus on infrastructure before heading to philadelphia to boost democrat john fetterman in his very close senate race. earlier, chief of staff ron klain addressed the economic conditions giving republicans a boost with now just 19 days until the midterms. >> look, i get the fact that prices are high, that's pinching family budgets. here in america, the president is fighting to bring down prices of everyday things like prescription drugs, like gasoline and i think, you know, that's our message to voters at this very tough time. >> joining me now is mike memoli, we have alyse jordan who has just held a focus group with voters, also with me, cornell
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belcher who has working on the obama presidential campaigns as well as at the dnc. welcome all. mike, you first, you have new reporting that john fetterman is going to get a boost from the white house today, also going to get a seat on air force one traveling between cities with the president there. the president's events today are not a typical big rally in the closing weeks of the election. talk about the calculation at the white house about how much the president can and should do ahead of november? >> well, alex, you and i have been talking about this since the early days of the 2020 campaign. joe biden has never been the candidate to draw on the biggest rallies, but if these rallies were really the only measure of success in politics, joe biden wouldn't be the president of the united states. and so the white house's strategy as they head into the midterms can be summarized by what the president himself likes to say which is i'll campaign for you, or against you, whatever helps you the most.
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they try to lean on the candidates themselves to dictate that strategy. what they've seen for the most part is that the president is traveling into swing districts and swing states not for campaign rallies, but for official events really designed to highlight some of the democratic accomplishments in congress over the past year. we'll see that today in pittsburgh, biden returning to that city where earlier this year, he was actually scheduled to attend an event on infrastructure when a bridge collapsed that morning in the city. and today he's going to be announcing that that bridge, thanks to funding from the infrastructure law, is going to be completed ahead of schedule just this year. as you mentioned, fetterman will be on air force one traveling with the president today. we've seen that with senators and congressman, but not necessarily candidates. let's play what president biden said at the white house.
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[ inaudible question ] >> i delivered that privately. >> john fetterman is going to hear with you in pennsylvania. why are more -- >> that's not true, there have been 15. count. >> reporter: are there going to be more? >> yeah. >> reporter: should there be any restrictions on abortion at all? >> yes, there should be. >> reporter: what should they be? >> roe v. wade. read it, man. you'll get educated. >> okay the president taking off from marine one. we saw the video of him earlier behind josh letterman as he was on the white house balcony. the president first addressed liz truss and said she's been a good partner. this visit is coming -- there's some warning signs for democrats, per the "new york times," democrats fear red october has arrived as the polls move the gop's way, this
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election is looking a lot more normal than it might have seemed over the summer. normalcy is bad news. what are your concerns? is the gop momentum too much to overcome? >> well, let's level set. history says there should be a red wave and you go back six, seven months ago, as someone who watched 2010, a lot of those signs along the road looked like 2010. that has evaporated. that "new york times" poll aside, which is a bit of an outlier from every other poll out there that shows over the last six, seven months, that the republican advantage has gone, evaporated from a five or six-point to either a three-point democrat advantage or a complete toss-up. that momentum is an odd story given that republicans should be up solidly in the generic. if you look at the battlegrounds right now, look, if a toss-up senate race in pennsylvania
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isn't a good thing for republicans if they're in fact supposed to take back the senate and take back the house and have a wave election. look, all of these states are going to be close. pennsylvania is going to be close. trump got 49% in pennsylvania. it's a classic battleground state. no one is going to blow anyone out in pennsylvania. what i will say, when you look at the actual early voting that we have right now on record, the early voting in these battleground states don't look anything at all like a typical midterm election. they look a lot more like 2018 than they did 2010 or 2014. if you look at the increased turnout, that tends to bode well for democrats, but, again, all these elections, all these races are going to be really close. >> absolutely. and you mentioned battleground pa. elise, you spoke with voters in two cities there. let's talk about what you got in pittsburgh. what are the voters telling you? >> we heard from voters in
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philadelphia and then in pittsburgh, we spoke to urban african american democrats and then bucks county swing voters and in pittsburgh, we spoke to women who are swing voters and trump supporters, and it was interesting because concern about crime and the economy all sectors had this. those are clearly the hot issues right now. inflation, fear that is we're already in a recession, and then the increase in crime that these voters, though, they might be a different political persuasions, they all feel it. and so now, let's just play a short clip from swing voters responding when i ask them about abortion and how much it was going to influence their vote. let's hear that clip right now. >> reporter: will any of you vote specifically based on a politician's views on abortion? >> no. >> strictly, no. >> if the choice is prolife or prochoice and they're only prolife with no other
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circumstance, i would never vote for them. yes, i would -- i would make that decision solely on that because that's a line i'm unwilling to cross. >> i agree. >> anything surprise you out of that? >> it wasn't as cut and dry as some of what you hear in the media just about political energy and abortion being this huge driver among democrats. it's far, far more nuanced than that. just like with anything. there's complexity in life. while it might be an important issue to voters, they still have concerns about their wallet, they have the concerns in the rise of crime that they're seeing. it's interesting in light of president biden's visit today, let's hear how some pittsburgh women who are swing voters, let's hear what they had to say about president biden. >> okay. >> reporter: should joe biden run again? >> no. >> reporter: that was quick, wow. why shouldn't joe biden run again in --
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>> too many people will not vote for him. >> i agree with -- you don't know if he's really in class. >> you could put anybody next to him and they're going to get it, and that's not good. >> a lot of people think he's mentally unwell, again, if we had a doctor that would tell us that, it would be a different story. i think he's getting a bad wrap because of his age. but i don't think he should run again. i don't think he could beat anybody. >> wow. that was fast and emphatic. >> a lot of the women in that group had voted for president biden and they supported him. we heard a bit of this from other groups too that just questioned, is he simply too old for the job. it's a big question that surrounds the backdrop of biden being in the state, questions about his leadership at this -- during these uncertain times. and so that's why you have not seen him out on the campaign trail with perhaps as many
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candidates as you have in past cycles. >> and you have to think, when would the answer definitively as to whether or not he's going to run come. you don't want him to be a lame duck in the last couple of years where he did not pick another four years, or let's choose to run for that or then does he give someone else a chance to -- you can figure that out because you're an analyst. you let me know when you do. thank you so much. coming up, running out of cash, the justice department says it needs more funding to keep investigating the january 6th attack. so what's the holdup getting them the money? first, take a look at this, kids in kyiv wearing swim caps and goggles? why? it's for a nuclear drill at their school. we're going to take you live to kyiv next. ol we're going to take you live to kyiv next. your business, you can make it even smarter. now ports can know where every piece of cargo is. and where it's going. (dock worker) right on time. (vo) robots can predict breakdowns and order their own replacement parts. (foreman) nice work. (vo) and retailers can get ahead of the fashion trend of the day with a new line tomorrow.
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and try to conserve power as electricity restrictions begin, even with temperatures beginning to plunge. russian attacks have knocked out one-third of the country's power stations. members of the u.n. security council are starting an investigation of drone attacks targeting infrastructure and civilians. it's a busy time. let's go to cal perry who is live for us in the capital city of kyiv. i'm joined by former cia chief of operations in europe. how are the folks coping with the electricity restrictions? >> reporter: i think we're at that line and when we talk to officials, if the number of
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power infrastructure destroyed gets to 40%, we're in trouble. four hours at a time, there are rolling blackouts. so the section behind me right now is seeing one of those rolling blackouts. if more of the stations get hit, it's going to get worse and it's cold here. the temperature did plunge overnight. it feels like winter has arrived. overhanging all of this is the situation in the south where you have these evacuations, the ukrainian government calls them mass deportations by russian troops and the continued talk of possible nuclear weapons. again, we've heard this from the kremlin time and time again. we've heard it from vladimir putin and folks here are taking it seriously. we went to a school yesterday and witnessed kids, schoolchildren drilling for a possible nuclear attack. it's something that people here are thinking about, talking about in addition to the rockets which are falling, the drones which are falling, the antidefense batteries which are going off. it is without a doubt much more
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serious situation now in the capital than it has been for quite some time. >> it's heartbreaking is what it is. >> i know you're going to be off to get more information for us. thanks for joining us. mark, to you, we mentioned the u.n. as being urged to investigate the drones. nato secretary general announced antidrone systems will be delivered to the ukraine soon. the "new york times" is noting that the u.s. has supplied ukraine with the so-called switchblades. the pentagon has said it would send other smaller drone systems, but, quote, the white house is not providing kyiv with larger drones like the predator and reaper that was used after september 11th. both aircraft can fly for hours while sending live video feeds of the ground and carry missiles and bombs. you would think this is the kind of of thing that president zelenskyy would want. should the u.s. reconsider that, or would that cross the line that putin has drawn with his
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threats on weapons being supplied by nato? >> sure, well, i think what is interesting is that every move by russia, you know, actually at the end causes the united states and the west to provide weapon systems that even weeks or months before would not even have been fathomable. at the beginning of the world, i don't think we would have sent hello kitty backpacks with mres in them, but now we've supplied himars. you're seeing the russian use of these iranian suicide drone which is is a terror weapon. i think the u.s. -- we announced we're going to help with air defense assistance, perhaps some antidrone technology. but what i really think is in order is the supply of longer-range missile systems, because the russians are launching these suicide drones from bases in crimea and it really -- you can call it even for defensive purposes, for ukraine, they need to be able to take these out. so all of these russian actions i think caused the west and
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caused the united states to actually end up sending systems to ukraine that we didn't think would cross that red line. i would expect this to happen in the days and weeks to come because, again, all of this is a sign of president putin's desperation. it's terrible for the ukrainian population. but i think it is a sign of russian desperation. >> so these, quote, evacuations in these four annexed regions that russia controls right now, there are concerns, certainly, that ukrainians could be taken and forced to fight against their own country, this after president putin declared martial law in that area. let's take a listen to secretary of sate antony blinken who spoke about where things stand. he just spoke this morning. here it is. >> just in the last few weeks he's tried to mobilize more forces, he's gone through with his sham annexation of ukraine territory. now in saying that he's
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declaring martial law in places that he claims have people who want to be part of russia, that speaks to his desperation. >> sounds like you and the secretary of state are on the same page, mark. >> absolutely. secretary of state is exactly right. these were sham annexations and there's martial law over territories that president putin and the russians don't even control. i think we're going to see a lot of heartbreaking stories about forced evacuations and perhaps even of ukrainians being forced to fight against other ukrainians. it's not militarily significant and, you know, i think what we have right now is a bit of a race against time, both as winter is setting in, but also -- and i would like to raise one quick point here, we saw kevin mccarthy talk about perhaps if the republicans and the gop takes the house, there could be limits on u.s. aid. when we talk about the earthquakes that have happened over the last week, that's something we should watch.
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the $17 billion of assistance has to keep going and any question of reducing that, i think is going to be terrible for the ukrainians. really not good for national security for the united states either. >> we're keeping a close eye on that. mark, thank you so much for joining me. the effort to investigate january 6th may be running out of time and money. nbc news has learned the justice department is raising concerns that funding for its january 6th investigation is running out and has asked congress for more money. the approval is still up in the air and if republicans take the house, that could certainly further imperil the doj's request. those concerns come as the democrat-led house committees running out of time to wrap up its investigation before the end of the year. the committee's subpoena for former president donald trump is expected any time today. so let's bring in our what's reporter. first of all, what can you tell us about this looming subpoena
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for former president trump. any timeline? >> we're on high alert for that subpoena. it could land any minute now. the committee has not set forth a specific deadline other than to say it's coming shortly but they know the clock is ticking and they know they're going to need to act quickly to give themselves enough time to see this through giving the committee is dissolving at the end of the year. once the committee announces the subpoena, they're unlikely to release the text of the subpoena based on past practice. they put out a letter explaining the rational for it and setting deadlines for the subject, in this case, donald trump, to comply for documents and testimony. in addition, it's not necessarily true that once they announce it the subpoena will have been served. more that they are formally in the process of serving it, alex. >> what about this issue in your reporting about doj funding, the fact that they're asking for more money to continue the investigation? what more can you tell us about
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that? >> reporter: it's a major sleeper issue right now. the justice department has told congress that an additional $34 million are critically needed for the department to continue its criminal investigation into the january 6th attack. they have conveyed that to congress and all eyes at this point are on this big government funding bill in december. that may be their last shot, possibly their only shot to get this done. i talked to numerous senior appropriators about this and they say it's up in the air. event decided if that money is going to be included in the government funding bill. some of them seemed surprised when i asked them about the justice department request, that they weren't aware of it, which suggests that, you know, the -- the request -- it hasn't broken through on capitol hill. you see on the screen there, the number two democrat on the appropriations committee, she said she doesn't know where that provision is and she went on to say if the doj is running out of money, they need to be more vocal on capitol hill to make sure that happens.
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republicans at this moment, some of them that i talked to, are open to including the funding and this may be the best shot that democrats have, that the doj has, to get this money through, because if the house flips to republican control, it's likely to be run by staunch trump allies. >> it's good your reporting is getting out there and we're talking about it. matt, the justice department has called january 6th the most wide-ranging investigation in its history. now more than 870 arrests so far. so what options are left for the doj if they do run out of money? >> well, i don't think we should assume that the investigations and prosecutions would stop. that's not what would happen. what it does mean is they would have to make difficult choices about redistricting agents from other priorities, redistricting prosecutors from other priorities. the justice department would have to say, do we want to continue to devote agents to investigating january 6th perpetrators or have them focus on violent crime or drug
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trafficking or financial fraud? it's the kind of difficult choice that the justice department leaders have to make all the time and i think what they're telling congress now is, we don't want to have to let the other priorities go unanswered and go unmet. we want to continue to be able to pursue this really unprecedented investigation. investigation even bigger than the probe that the justice department launched after the 9/11 attacks. we don't want this to have to suffer and we don't want to have other priorities to suffer. and, look, i know appropriators have a tough job. everything is a priority. the federal government has to do a lot of things. they have to make difficult questions but i think it's hard to see a bigger priority than holding accountable those who are responsible for such a heinous attack on our democracy. >> the fact that you spoke with republicans there who seem to support the prospect of further funding is a good sign. thank you so much. good to see you both. up next, he's in one of the closest senate races in the country. can arizona's mark kelly hang on to his seat? what he told nbc about the race.
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crackdown by governor ron desantis. kerry sanders has more. >> i guess you have a warrant? >> for what? >> i'm not sure. >> it's the voter stuff, man. >> reporter: just released body camera recordings show officers in florida making felony voter fraud arrests. >> we have a warrant for your arrest. >> for what? >> for voter fraud. >> reporter: 20 arrests following a statewide investigation into individuals who the state say voted even though they had lost their civil rights and could not vote because they had been convicted on either murder charges or a sex offense. >> you have a warrant. it's for voter fraud. >> reporter: this woman was one among many who is confused. she had served 19 years for second-degree murder but wondered how she could be under arrest. she had applied and was
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seemingly granted the right to vote. she and others were even issued voter registration cards by supervisors of elections. >> i ain't commit no fraud. >> that's the thing. i don't know exactly what happened with it, but you do have a warrant. that's what it's for. >> oh, my god. >> reporter: last year ron desantis created the florida office of election crimes and security. >> i don't think there's any other place in the country where you should have more confidence that your vote counts than in the state of florida, which is great. >> reporter: but critics charge the crime lies not with voters like tony patterson who served more than six years behind bars. >> because of your sex offender status, you're not supposed to be voting. >> reporter: the problem was created when the state issued them voters registration cards. >> and that determination was made by the state? >> absolutely. >> reporter: and she got a voters card? >> yes.
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>> reporter: and she went and voted? >> absolutely. >> reporter: and then afterwards they came forward and said, you violated the law? >> two years later. >> reporter: nathan hart who served time for a sex crime is among those accused of voter fraud and fears being sent back to prison. >> suicide has never been a thought that entered my mind, but there's a lot of days when i wish or pray that i don't wake up in the morning because i don't want to have to deal with this all over again. >> thanks to kerry sanders for that reporting. we should mention the woman featured in kerry's spot was told by the department of corrections that she could register to vote. they could be sent back to prison for up to five years. turning no arizona where election deniers are among the republican candidates running this midterm season. pro-trump gubernatorial hopeful kari lake got a boost to her campaign this week. a visit from glenn youngkin.
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one member of the crowd shouted this -- >> youngkin-lake in '24. >> it's your call. >> after the rally, vaughn hillyard asked lake about her future. >> i'm focused on arizona. i'm focused on being governor of arizona, solving our problems and being your worst nightmare in the fake news for eight years. >> well, okay, let's go vaughn hillyard who is there for us in arizona. vaughn, i know that you also spoke with democratic senator mark kelly. the one facing off against another election denier blake masters. gives me the update on these races. >> reporter: well, first off, worst nightmare sounds dark, but we'll let potentially governor lake handle that if she were to win in what is a close governor's race. but then you've got to look at
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the other race here, that's democratic incumbent senator mark kelly who has continued to hold the lead in polls, but it's an insignificant lead and you have seen millions of dollars spent on blake masters to boost his candidacy in what would be a huge pickup opportunity for republicans. those folks, they're all campaigning with one another. blake masters, kari lake are holding campaign rallies together. compare that to the democratic side, katie hobbs and mark kelly, you're not going to see them together. i had the chance to talk with mark kelly yesterday and i asked him about that decision to not campaign with the gubernatorial candidate within his party. take a listen. >> the republicans are campaigning. just last night -- >> we each make our own decisions about how to run our campaign. i have a campaign that's built to win. katie hobbs is much superior choice to be our next governor over kari lake who is peddling
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in a conspiracy. this is dangerous to our democracy. both kari lake is doing it, blake masters is doing it. what i suggest they do is run a better campaign. >> reporter: and that's when you're talking about mark kelly here who has run as an independent voice when he run in 2020. but now you're seeing that play out here again. the polls for each of these races is very close, alex. we're looking at a very competitive 19 days here on the road here in arizona. >> going to keep you running, my friend. i hope you have your track shoes on. thank you. coming up, we're hearing new warnings from economic experts about a possible recession next year, but what does that mean for families struggling to pay for groceries and gas right now? no, he's seizing the moment with merrill. moving his money into his investment account in real time and that's... how you collect coins. your money never stops working for you with merrill, a bank of america company.
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morning, too. so big picture. walk us through the latest data and the warnings. >> let's start with that since you brought it up. existing home sales down 24% in september year over year. that means home sales are dramatically slowing down because interest rates are so much higher doubling in the course of a he year because the fed is hiking interest rates to slow the out of control inflation picture. you know that old adage when certain bank talks, people talk and people listen, that's what's happening right now. goldman sachs ceo is talking about the possibility that the next year is going to be a volatile period heading into 2023 when goldman sachs talks, people listen. for the average family, there is less concern about whether we're in a recession right now but how do we get through it? >> reporter: from main street usa to wall street, americans are still staring down red hot inflation that shows no signs of cooling off.
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now some top executives are warning a potentially tough times in the months ahead. >> i think it's a time to be cautious. that doesn't mean for sure that we have a really difficult economic scenario. but in the distribution of outcomes, it's good chance we could have a recession. >> amazon founder joining that chorus saying batton down the hatches. president biden denies that move to continue tapping into the nation's emergency oil supply is politically motivated. calling on oil companies to increase production and refining operations. >> still make a significant profit. shareholders will still do very well. and the american people catch brake they deserve. and get a fair price at the pump as well. >> reporter: but gas is just one part of the global inflation picture. in the uk, inflation is running even hotter, above 10%. food up a staggering 14.6%.
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all the average american family now spends nearly $450 more per month to buy the same goods as last year. the head of the country's largest retailer, walmart, tells savannah is hitting people in different ways. >> do you feel like consumers are hitting that point where they're done paying those high prices. >> i think it depends on the personal situation that consumers are in. really different depending on where you are around the country. >> reporter: for stephanie's family of six living off a single income in pennsylvania, it's been cutting back across the board. of. >> it's a hard pill to swallow when you have to really change everything you have done. and do everything differently. you can't afford it. >> despite the challenging times, stephanie says she hen her family are looking forward. >> we don't know when it's going to get better. but i do know it will. i have faith that it will. >> yeah. you just really feel, you can sense and feel the tension there. listen, we have another stat that is also concerning.
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another indication that the economy is slowing. new home building starts, starting new home construction fell last month to the lowest level since the earliest months of a pandemic. down 8.1%. and so this is all further evidence that the economy is indeed headed for troubled times. >> no doubt. we'll see what the fed does. a lot of people are wondering if raising rates is a smart move. thank you. by the way, e.f. hutton that, is the company. i'm dating myself. >> i remember. >> i know. i was going to date myself by saying it. but you dated both of us. >> okay. thank you, tom. appreciate it. >> that does it for me, everyone. this very busy hour. i'll see you back here saturday at noon. andrea mitchell reports starts right now. mitchell reports stas right now. ♪ what will you change? ♪ will you make something better? ♪ will you create something entirely new?
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