all right we got a big week ahead on the campaign trail, and a long-awaited pennsylvania senate debate between lieutenant governor john fetterman and dr. mehmet oz is going to happen this coming tuesday, florida governor ron desantis is going to debate former governor, now its democratic opponent charlie crist, and former president barack obama will hit the campaign trail starting friday in georgia. we will have complete coverage of that next friday night, on the countdown, and big pulling news. the nbc news poll is coming out on sunday morning. brand-new numbers, less than 48 hours from, now we will see right here next friday night, 10 pm eastern. >> this is the katie phang show live from miami florida. we have lots of news to, cover and lots of questions to answer. and so let's get started.

but concerns this morning about national security after bombshell reporting that the documents of donald trump's florida home contain highly sensitive intel on iran and china. these new revolutions, today increase the odds of trump being criminally charged? we will talk to our experts. plus the january six committee officially issued a subpoena to donald trump. the very same day the steve bannon got four months in prison for contempt of congress. well donald trump comply, or with the set up a historic court battle. and later, we have seen the footage, florida residents visibly shocked by voter fraud arrests, courtesy of governor ron desantis. one of the cases has already been dismissed. will more follow? i will talk to a lawyer representing one of the people arrested. all that and more is coming up. >> and a happy saturday morning

to you. i am katie fang. this morning, new details on the contents of at least some of those roughly 13,000 documents the fbi agents took from donald trump's mar-a-lago estate back in august. nbc news now confirming that some of the classified documents in trump's possession included intelligence regarding iran and china. this is according to two people familiar with the matter. and the washington post reporting that at least one of the documents seized by the fbi describes iran's missile program. that's also according to two people familiar with the matter. this detail has not been independently confirmed by nbc news, but for more on all of this, we turn to nbc news senior national politics reporter john allen. john, good morning, tell us more about this latest news, it is huge, and just how donald trump is responding to his disclosure. >> good morning katie, with most presidents, with most

public officials, it would be surprising to hear that they took classified documents, particularly highly sensitive documents regarding iran and china two of the countries that pose the greatest risk to the united states, at any given time, and with donald trump maybe said that it is stunning and shocking, but not surprising. washington post first reporting on these documents that were among those seized in mar-a-lago by the fbi. and the issue here, one of the issues here according to experts is the possible compromising of sources in methods, and the way the united states collects intelligence and the safety of the people who are involved in that collection, so that is the big danger here for the national security apparatus. and of course there is, i know you'll be getting into this on the show, but the legal question of the president holding former president holding these classified

documents. his response also not particularly surprising that it says that the doj and -- on the quote unquote document hoax. >> john, he won a bit farther, there he accused are of losing millions of documents from prior presidents and also suggested the planting or removal of certain documents. and don, this all came down on the day that the 16 committee subpoenaed him yet serve and his longtime strategist sentence to prison, this really had to factor in terms of his reaction. >> it is a whole constellation of bad news for donald trump right no. and i can't speak to what the formulation of the statement was, and i think it's very unique to former president trump to make these allegations, including of the national records administration, and

this is obviously a moment where he is under scrutiny in georgia for the efforts to overturn the election and under scrutiny by the justice department for efforts to overturn the election. under scrutiny from the january six committee for efforts to overturn the election, in the mar-a-lago case. the remove of classified documents. >> our thanks to you john allen, keep us posted a more details as they develop in terms of that classified information. and ahead, i will speak with a former cia officer, tracey walter, the former prosecutor about the national security and legal implications of trump holding those documents at his home and whether it could tip the scales and if you get the scales on trump being charged with a crime. turn to midterms now, 17 days, wait president biden spoke exclusively to messi's jonathan kaye part about next month's elections. here's part of what president biden had to say.

>> i think that this is not a referendum, this is a choice. a choice between what kind of country you want. republicans have made it clear, first thing they wanted to do is most of them voted against the bill to reconstruct america through the infrastructure bill. highways, roads, and they all voted against the inflation reduction act, which provides for environmental security and safety. we will have a platform other than tear down when i've been able to, do what we have been able to do. and i don't know what they are for. >> and some breaking news last, night a federal appeals court has blocked president biden's plan to cancel billions of dollars in student loan debt. nbc's monica alba is at the white house with more. monica? >> katie, good morning, white and covering a roadblock for president biden's student loan forgiveness program. just days after millions started applying for the

relief. the federal police appeals court late last night temporarily stopped the plane to cancel billions of dollars in those loans. the president said that he was optimistic it would go on as planned, but acknowledge some of the legal difficulties, in the white house encourage borrowers to continue applying for that help, despite this latest development, saying the applications can still be processed in the meantime. that was just one topic of course, and one of the president's campaign promises that he has been touting ahead of the midterm elections just a couple weeks away now. this week the president also talked about abortion rights this week in washington, any traveled to washington to work with democratic candidates. there he ended the week by speaking about susan lonesome delaware we also sat down with our own jonathan capehart. he issued his closing pitch to voters talking about the administration's vote efforts to lower gas prices and rebuild the nation's infrastructure. the president also addressing questions about 2024 swirling

already, saying that he intends to run again, but that he hasn't made a formal decision on that yet. those wife, first lady jill biden, is in favor of another bid for the presidency. saying she thinks quote, we are doing something very important that i should not walk away from. to some of the top lines there from the msnbc exclusive interview with the president. katie? >> monica alba, thank you so much. patrick didn't mauro morning at 10 am eastern for the full interview with president biden where they discussed in that release, the state of american democracy, in the upcoming midterm elections, and more. jonathan also speaks with nancy pelosi about her outlook for democrats in november and her january six investigation. watch the sunday show with jonathan capehart at 10 am eastern msnbc. and now overseas to the united kingdom, the country was plunged into political chaos, when prime minister liz truss

announced her sudden resignation after 45 days in the job. and now there's where that former british prime minister boris johnson may make a political comeback. he was ousted by pm just three months ago amidst a series of ethics scandals. for more, returned to sky news as wilfred frost. wilfred f>> okay, yes indeed, and portions of the slide back in the uk earlier this morning from a holiday in the caribbean. he now has 50 in peace publicly backing him to be an ex leader. but he trails rishi sunak, there was his finance minister and came second over the summer in the race to replace johnson to liz truss. which is sunak as 100 mps publicly backing him, and 100 is the magic number. that is what is needed to get on to the shortlist by 2 pm on monday. after, that it will go to the party members, about 200,000 of

them across the country to make the final choice. there's only 360 conservative mps, so probably two or three will make that original shortlist. the big difference to the race over the summer that fatefully selected liz truss, this one is much quicker. that one was seven weeks, this one will be seven days. that was a hope by the party that it would be a less divisive campaign, deliver more party unity. quickly as relates abortions, and the first point is that his challenges getting that 100 mps. getting on the shortlist in the first place. 50 so far publicly, his supporters as he has more privately, and if he gets on the shortlist, it is thought that he would do very well. he will probably become favorite because there's 200,000 or so party members still warmed him very greatly. the second, point as you mentioned, he is still due to face a parliamentary stance committee that investigates

that party gate scandal earlier this year. and that would have the power to remove him from office again. he resigned earlier in the summer before he had to face the set of hearings. his supporters just want him back in office, they will cross that bridge when they get to it, whereas his opponents say it's one of many reasons why he might not be the minter village unity and stability of the country so desperately needs. >> wilfred frost, thank you so much. >> >> that's the thing, i don't know exactly what happened with, it but you do have a warrant, and that's what it is for. >> the other confusion, even from the arresting officer himself. after ron desantis ordered a crackdown on alleged voter fraud. but a new legal ruling has dealt the florida governor's big blow. we will talk to the attorney that woman you just saw in the

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information. >> we also need the best protection of classified information. >> service members here in north carolina have risked their lives to acquire classified intelligence to protect our country. >> forget about what was in the emails, it's relevant. although many of them are classified, highly classified, you go to jail for that. >> lordy, there are tapes, the irony doesn't escape, you does it? that was donald trump during his 2016 presidential campaign stretching the importance of

import protecting classified documents. but now nbc news is learning that at least some of the 100 plus classified documents the fed sees from his mar-a-lago state contain sensitive secrets about iran in china. the washington post reporting that at least one of the documents described iran's missile program and others describe highly sensitive intelligence work aimed at china. that's according to people familiar with the matter. these details have not been independently confirmed by nbc news. of course trump has denied any wrongdoing, but legal experts are saying that this just increased his odds have been criminally charge for keeping classified documents at his florida home. joining me now are former prosecutor charged coleman and former cia officer fbi special agent in the offer of the unexpected spy, tracey wilder -- tracy walder. charles, i would like to start with, you odni doing its assessment right now, and we know that the special master does not have those classified

documents for his review, but i feel like, and i'd like to know if you agree, does this new information that coming out right now tip the scales in favor of the doj decide to charge donald trump with a crime. >> katie, i think it does. i think there are two principal things that we have to think about, there is the practical and there is the principle. on the practical level, i think it also underscores what the doj has been saying around the fact that these were classified documents that donald trump had, that many of them were sensitive in nature, and between these things seriously. [inaudible] [inaudible] >> iranian missile programs as a part of what it is he was in possession of. i'm a larger principle level, it's also a big important piece of the narrative. allow trump has tried to minimize as much as he can about the significance of the

documents that he has, you cannot minimize the fact that you are in possession of another country's missile secrets. those are things that are very significant under anyone sanders, and there any stretch of the imagination. and so under that, there are very important and tipped the scales in a way that favors against donald trump. >> so tracey, assuming this new reporting is true, what type of secrets on iran and china might we be talking about here? >> so, katie this is all very hypothetical, when i worked at the fbi's as special agent i did work chinese counter intelligence, some of the things that we were doing that i can talk about now because those have since been sentence and prosecuted, that they were stealing things like our nuclear power in some areas. they're actually handing that information to china, things like electric drives, how we keep our ships quiet, so that they can't be heard. and when they are traveling to

tactically important places. those are the kinds of things that could be in there in these are extremely important because this can really put military lives at risk, and this corporate sources and methods at risk, and it's really disturbing that he had documents of this nature if this is true. and really just willy-nilly in mar-a-lago, where i worked at the fbi when our cases like this, we worked in a very secure facility and i worked within my facility, working chinese counterintelligence, and that's how sensitive this document is. >> and because it is that sensitive, how valuable do you think this classified information would be if somebody wanted to sell it to the highest bidder? >> extremely valuable. we had the case that i worked in chinese counterintelligence, and he is currently serving life in prison now for taking those classified documents from

his place of work. and handing them to the chinese. and so really understand here that we don't have trump physically handing these documents to these foreign entities. but, he did half has really storage-wise it should be enough to indict someone. >> you know charles, it is a day ending in, why it's so clearly there is legal drama for donald trump, of this is coming as the january six committee yesterday subpoenaed donald trump to testify under oath, and to produce documents. and we've had a chance to look at that subpoena. what stood out for you about that subpoena. >> there are a few things instead. out number, one i think that this was one of the clearest explanations that we've had from the january six committee as to how it was that they were framing this. basically what they said, listen, if you are peddling falsehoods, you are where that the falsehoods that you are

peddling on a secular base that intended to come to january six, and they were angry, and they were armed. and you knew that. you allow them to come to january six to the capitol to participate in the ways that they did and then you had an opportunity to call them off, you did not. u and they really lay out what they feel like his role is extremely explicitly, connecting all of the dots from the information that has been gathered in presented during the january six investigation, and now the subsequent hearings. the other thing that i think is very apparent to me is that this is what prosecutors do. and what i mean by that is that this is what the conclusion of an investigation looks like. they have had a number of different witnesses come forward and millions of documents have been reviewed, and they have all of the information that they need, and they are just asking both trump, are you going to come in and complete the picture, or are you going to make us here's what we already have? but at the end of the day, they really actually have the answers that they need. that is very apparent from the questions that they ask and the things that they demanded,

particularly with respect to the timeframes and the documents that they asked for. it is clear that they're asking because they already know. and so i think when i saw that, it reminded me a lot of what it is to conclude an investigation when you have all of the pieces in place, and you just need to target the investigation either to cooperate, [inaudible] or you can move forward with what is the witnesses have already told you. >> you know tracey, last question to you please, you did these types of investigations as an fbi agent against the cia agent. do you agree with charles that at this point in time, they don't really need donald trump. the target of this investigation, they have collected a lot of evidence, even though it is a congressional investigation, it doesn't have the power of a grand jury subpoena for example. however as an investigator, would you agree that they don't mean that proverbial cherry on the top of the sunday and if you had, enough you be able to turn it over to the prosecutors and let them indict or not.

>> i heartedly engraved with charles. we really never needed testimony like, that and when you build your case. you build your case with the intention that the person is never going to confess to the crime. you build a case that is so strong but you don't need them to. that's really how we work. because the reality is that no perpetrator is going to confess to a crime. we see that on tv, that's all well and good, but that doesn't happen most of the time. the reality is that we have more than enough evidence, typically to indict, and most of the time subsequently convict the individual. >> i don't know tracey, charles and, i former prosecutors, we might have gotten those confessions at a defendant if they were crazy enough to take the stand. every time donald trump opens his, mouth he is a walking confession. tracy walder, charles, thank you so much for being with me earlier on the saturday morning, we all appreciate your insight,

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critical in that state. north carolina is seen as a haven of sorts for abortion seekers in the south, thanks a democratic governor roy cooper, who is vowed to keep vetoing any gop led abortion bans that land on the steps. abortion providers there say that they've seen a huge increase in patients coming from neighboring states since the overturning of roe v. wade. take a look at this map. most surrounding states have taken action to restrict abortion laws. south carolina moved to ban most abortions after six weeks. the law is currently blocked in court. abortions are banned in georgia after six weeks, and in florida after 15. every other southeastern state eliminated access with few exceptions. but in north carolina, abortion is legal up to 20 weeks, making the state a magnet for women seeking access. but that could change, if republicans win a super majority in the states general assembly. republicans are just a few seats shy of the 60%

supermajority needed to override governor cooper's a veto, but here is the thing. polls show that the economy is top of mind for most americans, not abortion. and so will democrats messaging on this issue in north carolina and nationwide be enough to turn out the vote? joining me now is democratic congresswoman gabbard rostov north carolina she also sits in the house judiciary committee. we also should disclose that representative ross is running for reelection, we are chatter upon it never heard back. congresswoman, thank you for joining, us as always, it's such a pleasure to have you on the show. can you give us a sense on what you are hearing directly from your constituents about the issue of abortion. do you think it's going to be enough to turn out the vote in your state of north carolina. >> katie, thanks for having me on and taking on this crucial issue. yes, i think that the issue of abortion care and reproductive rights is on the ballot and is

motivating voters. and it is particularly motivating suburban women and young women. i've been hearing about this issue at chamber of commerce meetings. i've been hearing at it at the grocery store. i live in the research triangle area and it's a highly educated area, it's an area where people are used to being able to get the health care that they need, and it is also an area where so many of these crucial legislative seats lie. this issue is going to be a big deal for two of our states. senate races and one of our state house races. >> let's be clear, this is obviously not just in focused issue, and we've seen several polls that pick the economy inflation at the top of a longest of voting issues with abortion near the bottom. representative, is the messaging from democrats clear

that all issues are important but some may be so more important than others? >> first of all, we need to tell the voters that we understand what they are going through right now. and right now, there is a lot of uncertainty in pain. but that has spread from the economy to their voting rights, into that reproductive rights. their issue in midterms is who's going to show up. who is feeling the need to make sure that their voices are heard. in the issue of abortion care has been huge. particularly for women. and people are going to vote on the issues that matter to them every day. but the people who did not think that the election was going to make a difference, they have been activated right now. >> have you heard it all for me

to constituents that they have any continuing concerns about the future of democracy, because i know that democracy is in peril on a daily basis, but i also know again that it might compete with some other issues that are kitchen table issues that are quote more important, although frankly representative, i don't want to be more important if you try democracy, major headlines include the subpoena of donald trump, including his attempts to overturn the 2020 election, you serve on the house judiciary committee, and you have any shots but you want to share with our viewers about how all of this is intertwined. the fact that the 16 committee is doing its investigation in d.c. means that you don't have an impact on the future of democracy in the state of north carolina, for example. >> democracy is on the ballot, and i think that the january six committee has made it clear that the biggest threat to our democracy has been donald trump, and clearly how we left the

white house, and didn't want to. all roads to january six in the insurrection lead to donald trump and his coconspirators. and that is just clear for history. and it's important for people to know that congress is not going to turn a blind eye to this. we are creating the historic record, we are holding the former president accountable to the extent that we can, and we held steve bannon in contempt of congress, if he has been sentenced to four months. this is not going away because if we don't protect our democracy, it will be frittered away just like so many other places in this world. we are the bulwark of democracy, we must fight like hell to protect it. >> it's a representative, before we have to let you, go i wanted to ask, you a lot of the people who are running for office that are up for the november midterms, they are acolytes the donald trump.

they are election deniers. it's almost like donald trump by proxy. if he can get back into office, he can get as many officers as he can with the imprimatur of donald trump to make sure that his legacy that you speak up which stinks frankly, it's going to continue, but what is going on in terms of the upcoming election in north carolina in terms of people that are election deniers, they're going for critical races, where they would be overseeing perhaps what happens. for example, we know more of the harbor representatives are up in front of the supreme court and that is a north carolina redistricting case and there is a lot going on with your states. >> first, of all these election deniers and trump acolytes are extreme. deniers and trthe public is sice extremes. they want people who think about them first, not former president trump. to the extent that we can draw those contrast, i believe we will be successful. as for more versus harper, it

will be decided at the end of this term, argued in december, north carolina is one of the very first states that recognize judicial review from our state constitution. the justices are going to hear that, and they've heard from justices across the political spectrum. saying that more must lose. >> congresswoman deborah ross from the race in north carolina, we've thank you very much for being here this morning. >> my pleasure. >> and a quick programming, note my friend ali velshi is in detroit michigan this weekend for a special edition of velshi across america was 17 days until the, midterms he spoke to michigan voters about what issues are motivating them this time around, and what specific challenges could pop up in the coming weeks. be sure to join ali velshi this morning at 8 am eastern. coming, up fail, flop, bust.

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inaccurately suggested voter fraud is a major issue in the state of florida, but his latest attempt to stop out all of this alleged fraud is looking more like a flop. and i guess, the scientist put his new election police force to the test, with the arrest of 20 ex felons who voted in the 2020 election. florida had previously restored voting rights for former felons with an exception for people who have been convicted of murder or sexual offenses. according to desantis, the people arrested back in august serve time for those crimes, many of them say that they were led to believe that they could vote by governor employees at registration offices. some were even issued voter i.d. cards multiple times. that is of those arrests went public this week. >> i didn't commit no fraud.

>> even the officers making these arrests came and seemed to explain the charges. and now there's even more reason to believe that desantis's plan is on shaky ground to say the least. yesterday, we got a ruling on the first of this batch of cases, a judge dismissing voter fraud charges against one man on the grounds that the statewide prosecutor who issued the arrest warrant did not have the proper jurisdiction to do so. a signal of what could come for the remaining 19 cases, and a sign that desantis's plan is at

the moment backfiring. joining me now is the attorney defending one of those voters, his name is mark rincon. mark, good morning. really want to have you on the show, number one foot is my home state, number two, i'm really very offended by this desantis election police force. i want to get your immediate reaction though, to that order of dismissal yesterday. what do you think it signals for other cases, including your clients, that are still pending at this time. >> thanks for having me, katie and the decision by the judge in miami is a great sign and that is an argument that a lot of us have attempted to make in our cases in the tampa area and what the judge essentially said that the governor brought these cases using what is called the statewide prosecutor's office which is a law enforcement arm in florida that falls under the eternal general. which is close to the governor's office. that effectively took it out of

the hands of local prosecutors who are elected here in florida. and are beholden to the voters. it's not instead of allowing local prosecutors to produce these cases if they chose to, many of whom went out of the math, said the governor kept it in his power using the statewide office, and the judge in miami said that you have exceeded your authority, this organization is not jurisdictional-y permitted to bring these cases, and the reason is that they don't actually happen in two different counties. these people registered to vote in their home county, they were given voter registration cards in the home county, and they voted in their home county. everything took place in a single county which means that they should be brought if at all i had the local county elected prosecutor. >> and, mark let's be clear, so your client, the woman that we saw in that body cam footage, ramona oliver, she was provided a voter registration card and

she voted in november 2020 and now in august 2022 she's been arrested, even though this is a jurisdictional issue, i won against illegal weeds with you, because let's say that the state attorney and remote district says, you know, what i do want to prosecute this, case it's not the office of statewide prosecutor, the prosecutor in the state attorney was to have to prove intent. to prove intent in this case, for somebody like ramona, seems impossible. especially if it's somebody from the government who told her that she was okay to vote. absolutely. you are exactly right. these cases require what is called willful-ness which means and intends to break the law and intended to something wrong. when you register to vote and you are told that you should apply the state will determine whether you are eligible and the state determines you are eligible and sends you a voter registration card that is certainly strong evidence that you never intended to do anything wrong. i could tell you on this oliver

case she told them she was a convicted felon. she was told things have changed in florida. you may be able to vote now. fill out the registration form and the state will let you know if you're eligible or not. she depended on her government to give her advice about whether she was eligible to vote. if they got it wrong that's not her fault. she shouldn't be prosecuted for felony for their mistake. >> i think another important component that others understand is your client ramona for example. she did her time. but in florida when you're arrested for an offense they look at your priors and they include that when they tried to make a determination of how much time he will be serving. god forbid ramona gets convicted. it's not just five years she's looking at should be looking at more time. so mark my final question to you this batch of voter intimidation to me it's not a can coincidence that a lot of them or black democrats. what do you think this does in

a chilling effect on people in terms of ex felons that try to go and vote? >> absolutely it has a chilling effect. in fact, i got a call yesterday from a gentleman who is in his 80s, he had a conviction from 50 years ago. he voted in the recent presidential election and he was petrified that law enforcement was going to show up at his house, drag him away in handcuffs and prosecute him. that is one phone call that i got. i'm sure there are tens of thousands of others all around our state that are worried right now, because of what the governor is doing. and that has to have an effect on whether these people vote in future elections. >> marc rankin i want to know for my viewers tuning in right now. you are doing this work pro bono. you have urged the other attorneys that have taken out the cause to do the work pro bono. they are doing this for free. so i want to say thank you for joining us to educate our viewers and to thank you for taking up the calls for ramon oliver and others. thanks for being here.

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to the midterm elections just 17 days away much of the national dialogue has understandably revolved around two key issues reproductive freedom and the economy. this morning i'm here to make sure you know these two things are inextricably intertwined and we need to stop talking about them like they exist separate and apart from each other. exhibit a. this sign from a protest for abortion rights.

it points out all of the economic consequences that come from force press pregnancies. the sign reads give me the money needed for my forced work pregnancies babies food house formula bills miscarriages health care funeral. the group advancing new standards and reproductive health of the university of california san francisco, studied the economic harm created when a woman is denied an abortion. that study found that those women saw an increase in household poverty lower credit scores, higher that, higher rates of bankruptcies and evictions, and that they are likely not able to cover living expenses like food, housing, and transportation. and it's not just the mothers who are effective. that same study found that the children born as a result of a denied abortion are more likely to live below the federal poverty line. the reality on the ground for

maternity care is very different, depending upon where you live. the new york times did a study looking at how much support different states give mothers. things like medicaid, expansion, and welfare. it found that states with abortion bans are among the least supportive for mothers and children, with weaker social security -- also have the worst results in -- democrats running this november is making this very same connection between these two huge issues. here's georgia gubernatorial candidate stacey abrams on the morning joe this week. >> abortion is an economic issue. it's been reduced to this idea of a culture or, but for women in georgia, this is a very much a question of whether or not they're going to end up in poverty in the next five years, because women who are forced to carry pregnancies and up they are four times more likely to be impoverished in five years.

they are twice as likely to be on food stamps. this is an economic issue, and it's being reduced to this culture conversation. >> look, i understand the instinct for candidates to focus completely on the economy. everything costs more right now. that is a crisis for too many americans. but democrats have shown that they can walk and chew gum at the same time. so, they need to show people how abortion rights, this incredibly private medical decision, also has a huge impacts on an individual's bottom line and our economy as a whole. reproductive freedom also means financial freedom for some. so, let's get this right in the vendor. we'll be right back. by asking your healthcare provider if an oral treatment is right for you. oral treatments can be taken at home and must be taken within 5 days from when symptoms first appear. if you have symptoms of covid-19, even if they are mild, don't wait,

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and watching the katie phang show. velshi starts right now. right now. and a wonderful morning to you on your saturday, october the 22nd. i'm ali velshi coming to you live this weekend from detroit in the crucial swing state of michigan. for a very special edition of velshi across america 2022. i traveled here early in the week for conversations with a diverse group of voters about the prominent issues on the ballot this year as election day nears it. was a fascinating and imt