tv Yasmin Vossoughian Reports MSNBC October 22, 2022 11:00am-12:00pm PDT
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afternoon, i'm diaz been vossoughian. , we have a lot of ground to cover in the two hours ahead. we are waiting for a response from the former president. and his legal team. now, that the january six committee has officially subpoenaed donald trump, there is also troubling new information about what was contained in some of those classified documents. taken from mar-a-lago. and then the supreme court now demanding a response from george a prosecutor after senator lindsey graham went all the way to the high court to avoid testifying alone -- testifying about election interference. a federal court putting a stop to president biden's college debt relief plan. after millions have already applied. but the white house is vowing
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to fight back. we are also following an alarming rising kids being hospitalized because they are having trouble breathing. and the wake of the uvalde shooting -- refuses to do anything to stop gun violence, sending out what they call, quote, safety creates, to parents in the state to collect children's dna to make it easier to identify them if there is a school shooting. more on that story ahead, we want to start with the january six committee subpoena, with the former president, directing trump to testify and provide documents as well, -- campaign to overturn the 2020 election. results the current present president reacting to this dramatic move yesterday, and the exclusive interview with our own jonathan came out. watch this. >> i'm not going to pine on what he should do but i think the committee is handling it very well. >> what would it say to the american people if he didn't testify? do you think? >> well, a portion of the might say, that's great.
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and to a larger portion i think they would say that was a mistake. >> i want to bring in nbc's aly, also with, us and mess nbc legal analyst joyce. it was a startling ten-page subpoena, document we read through yesterday, as it was breaking live on the air. ali, walk us through the accusations, that are being made here by the committee. and what we can expect at next? >> yes, yasmin, in this subpoena yesterday, the committee is making it unequivocally clear that in the committee, in the committee's words, rather, trump was at the center of this plot. the first and only effort by any u.s. president in their words to overthrow an election in this lengthy list of accusations we will put up on the screen for viewers here the committee is essentially saying that trump was aware he lost the 2020 election. that he continued to pedal these falsehoods anyway. he knew his base of supporters believed him. and we're prepared to fight for him. they were prepared to prevent
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the peaceful transfer of power from happening, and despite knowing all of this, he did nothing to stop the attack on the capital on january 6th from happening. so, the committee is asking trump to testify under oath on november 14th, and review a whole list of documents committee members saying they could be even more enlightening than his own testimony, by november 4th. some of those requested documents include any communications with members of congress, far-right groups, shortly before and on january 6th. we haven't heard from trump and self whether he will comply with the subpoena. his legal team responded to this yesterday saying in a statement, only saying that they view it, and respond as appropriate. committee members are saying they hope trump will realize this is his duty, as a former president, to answer his committees questions. take a look at congressman jamie raskin here. >> at the very least, someone
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who is willing to send other people into battle to stop the steal, on the patently false grounds that the election was stolen, certainly shouldn't be as much of a snowflake as to not even come forward to state his own rationale, for why he did that. >> so committee members are hopeful, but they are also realistic. and they realize that trump will probably fight this until the clock runs out here. remember, the committee is really only active until a new congress is sworn in in january. that is when we expect the committee to release a report of his findings, and pass the torch onto the doj, which is likely to finish the work that the committee started. >> ali, thank you. joyce, this was the first time you and i are talking since the subpoena was dropped yesterday. i'm curious to hear from you, because it seems to be, as this kind of ten page document was released, it was the beginnings of this summary of the findings of the january 6th
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investigation. and whether or not the former president actually shows up for his deposition here. to provide testimonies of the january six committees, this was the beginnings of what we will eventually hear of their findings. john >> i think that is in the students assessment of what we are seeing in this subpoena. we have talked in the past about how most federal indictments are very short and precise. sometimes you get a longer speaking indictment, that explains the entire situation. well, this is a speaking subpoena. and we have seen these before from the committee when they have subpoenaed some witnesses, but here with pretty startling clarity, they lay out the case against former president trump. they put him right up the middle, they identified him as the organizer and operator, the conspiracy to identify with the certification of the 2020 election. and their requests are eagerly specific i think are correct
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that this is the shape the court will take sal, because always they center around putting the president around a position of responsibility for what happened. and that is what is very unique about, this one doj assembles its evidence, it's thinking about the burden of proof, beyond a reasonable doubt. when congress does its work, it is thinking, what are the logical inferences that we can draw from the evidence we have all heard? and these are the illogical inferences. >> on the clock as ali mentioned there is there a possibility as things ran out with the congressional term, the former president with legal channels -- can run out the clock? >> absolutely he can. the subpoena expires with the change of putting a good job -- tight spot. they've given him the opportunity to tell his side of the story. if he does not take advantage of, that if he plays the long game, which i think he is --
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everyone is expecting. , the historical record of these events say that donald trump had the opportunity to come in and explain and he chose not to do so. and ultimately that is a pretty powerful fact. joyce, -- >> talk to me about the findings because, i do want to talk to when it comes to mar-a-lago documents job a, and elevate it for you, hear from our own nbc reporting. in -- former i donald trump's home. -- nbc news is not confirmed that at least one of the documents seized by the fbi described iran's missile program and this is certainly joys i have coffee as i thought kind of surfacing, i'm this news, raised the stakes we knew there was half highly classified information when it comes to the documents seized at mar-a-lago. but, now if we are talking about a possible iran missile program, this is really
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next-level. >> it raises the stakes in an enormous way and it ramps up the pressure on doj to speedily move towards prosecution. the problem here is that the kind of information that these documents would contain, if they are what is being represented, is that this involves sources and methods, of intelligence collection. that means, it involves people that are working on behalf of the united states, with our intelligence community to keep us safe. knowing that this sort of information is now vulnerable and it can make cavalierly left in a desk drawer and a beachfront resort in florida, that makes it that much more difficult for the intelligence community to protect. as i think we will all see doj aggressively move to hold those responsible accountable. >> you cannot help but think, the geopolitical implications of something like this, if the wrong person were to get their hands on. it considering what we are going through with iran right now. we are watching things unfold in that country, currently negotiating with the jcpoa, along with the human rights
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trustees we are seeing on the ground in iran it's it's starting to see that there is intelligence about iran and china, and it was left as it was in the former presidents residence in florida. let me also ask you about what is happening with lindsey graham. supreme court, i'm gonna read this because i want to make sure i'm getting this right here, asking for a response specifically joyce from georgia officials and senator lindsey graham's request to hold the subpoena that would compel him to testify on that criminal probe at fulton county potential interference in the 2020 election, we don't know necessarily what this means yet when it comes to justice -- possibly making a referral. but what do you think? >> so this is much like the matter we were just discussing last week. where president trump and tried to -- mar-a-lago in the 11th circuit, lindsey graham is now asking the supreme court to keep him from having to testify in front of the fulton county da, his grand jury and this is the same
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sort of situation. clarence thomas could read the briefs he's requested, and dismiss the request out of hand. he could referred to the full court, in which case it would most likely be decided on the shadow docket. but the 11th circuit a three judge panel that includes again, two trump appointees, has written very powerful opinions, that says, some factual evidence, grand jury's are entitled to collect. and what graham would be testifying to as well within the da's ability to subpoena. >> joyce, as always, great to see you. the white house says we can telling williams of americans and student debt for applying and -- they temporarily blocked biden's program late last night, more than 20 million people, they have already applied, and bc's josh lederman is on the floor with, this in rehoboth beach, delaware. this is gotta be seen as a major role block for the white house. especially as they got this
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site up and going, and asking folks, urging folks, to apply student loan forgiveness. >> yeah, it is a red light for now. student debt relief will actually be discharged by the federal government until this gets resolved. and it was only yesterday that you and i were speaking wow i was at an event with president biden. in dover, delaware, at delaware state, a historically black public university where biden was really putting this front and center, as one of the key accomplishments, achievements that democrats have been able to jerk and he seemed to really try and cream chenin, who claimed the president had no legal authority you to john just a few hours ago, you were
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-- >> our student loan plan, as we recover from the pandemic, we give everybody a little more breathing room. in total, one of the 40 million americans don't to benefit from this relief not and there are no new person whose on and it's not gonna go to the top 5% of the incomes, period, they're going to go to people who really need it. >> this is not the end of the road for the program. the white house insists it's full speed ahead and people should continue to apply. that they can even continue to process peoples applications. the only thing they can't do is chenin -- that will be up to the decision of the appeals court, which is making a broader decision was
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john and then they're gonna fight very hard again, but those efforts to do all this program. >> appreciated josh, still this hour everybody instead of passing gun control laws what the state of texas is doing that as many parents and gun control activists enraged. plus how new yorkers are handling with the that has doctors very concern chenin. n. ♪♪ whenever heartburn strikes get fast relief with tums. it's time to love food back. ♪ tum tum tum tum tums ♪
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major news. we are following a major category four hurricane, hitting the coast of mexico. kara -- hurricane roslyn, went over rapid intensification overnight, with speeds jumping up to 130 miles per hour, at the national hurricane center warning, that damaging winds, flash flooding, dangerous storm surge, could all hit a mexican west coast state, which is home to over 1 million people. mexican authorities issuing a hurricane warning to the area of the storm. expected to make landfall later this weekend. and then, this weekend, just a short time ago, cdc director doctor will walensky has tested positive for covid, in a statement, dr. walensky is up today with our vaccines. expensive mild symptoms, she is isolating at home, and working remotely. >> all, right around the country right now, a physician
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is seen a sudden surge in cases amongst kids, with respiratory illnesses. it is a surge that is straining many children's hospitals as well. this is kathleen, with more on this. i have to say, kathy, this seems a bit earlier. >> yeah -- >> for an outbreak in rsv. why now? >> yeah, so typically, rsv is a winter season illness. right? it peaks in january and february. but we talked to a lot of doctors a past couple days and they are saying, for the past two years, we have been masking, social distancing, practicing good hygiene, but all those precautions have dropped. and also, kids are around more kids say the bad with parents across the country are on high alert with the number of respiratory illnesses among kids overwhelming hospitals. -- rsv causes cold like symptoms like a runny nose, coughing, and fever. doctors say it is spreading
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rapidly, and earlier than normal. >> this year, for some reason we are seeing a surge in the summer and fall. >> roughly 75% of the nation's 40,000 pediatric icu beds are full. medical experts are saying social distancing and masks during the pandemic slowed the spread of covid, and other respiratory illnesses. but without these precautions in place these days, new numbers show flu activity is up in most of the u.s.. especially portions of the south. and rsv is making a come back to, in connecticut, the emergency department of yale, new haven children's hospital, is now treating more than 100 rsv patients. nearly 80 -- 50% jump from just a week ago. there was no vaccine for the virus, and doctors say most people recover on their own in a week or two. but, it can cause serious illness in young children, babies, and older adults. difficulty breathing, decreasing the activity, and
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low appetite or red flags. and should prompt immediate medical attention. >> it was pretty scary, especially when the doctor told me we're sending you to the er. >> 18 month your year old joshua went from bad to worse in a matter of days. and rsv was to blame. >> we had to suction the mucous out, giving him breathing treatments every four hours. he's at an iv, and it's a lot for him to endure. >> law! >> joshua is now on the mend but this common virus caused a big scare. and the outbreak is showing no signs of slowing down. >> good to see joshua doing well, so, the cdc says look, the virus is actually very common and contagious. in fact, almost all children get this virus before the age of two. >> yeah, almost my boys have had rsv as well. and they were just fine. but, we are so happy to see that josh was doing better as well. thank you kathy, good to talk to you. all, right the officer of florida governor ron desantis says he got a --
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margaret flights, task system across -- coming response to a nonprofit, and seizing the materials. the new details are already emerging about that very flight program. miami herald reporting, i'm are going to unable to illegally work in the united states, paid to help with the program. the herald reporting this. the migrant, named 27-year-old emmanuel, said he helped find passengers to help fill planes, that desantis wanted to send from texas to democratic strongholds, in northern states. now in new york city, facing its own obstacles in finding a place to house migrants arriving from other states like texas. wnbc's andra sid reports for us. >> the tents are up. many of the beds in place. but mayor eric adams said the new humanitarian relief center on randall's island is only the beginning. >> every community is going to see asylum seekers. >> four days after declaring an emergency as the influx of
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migrants from the texas border continues, with buses arriving in port authority dearly, and an estimated cost of one billion dollars, the mayor's call for stated federal help not yet answers. >> since that declaration, have you gotten any commitments from either of federal or state governments jacket -- >> meanwhile, those spectacular fall weather won't last forever. >> we want to identify an indoor site. we don't want children and adults to be sleeping in a tent outside the parking lot. >> roxboro president vanessa gibson among those opposed to the original proposed relief site, in orchard beach. amid flooding concerns. she said, officials gutted the indoor kingsbridge or murray, but it has been rejected. >> we have been looking at places like kingsbridge armory, which is in viable because it has health issues, it has hvac issues, and ventilation issues. >> so now outreach teams are
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senate. polls showing a virtual dead heat between democratic senator catherine cortez, and our republican -- nbc's reporter is in vegas for us. garrett, talk to, us early morning start today. give us a sense of what the numbers are looking like so far, and what the candidates are up to. >> voting is underway here, yes, bouncing this around to leave early vote parties for the new only va yuck. the polling on this race is incredibly close. but it has been consistent over the last month that. the -- marcell. adam laxalt taking a small but persistent lead, about a point and a half in this. race and nevada races are always close. joe biden won this same won by only about 30,000 votes. so one of the advantages that democrats had built in the state, is the support of the color union. the folks who organized this event only al-kateab and so
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that's one of the things that democrats are banking on, that we have been talking about to voters here, yasmin, the issue is very similar to what you hear in parts of the country. president for, most it's the economy. second most al-tanf. and adam is using that you saying, you don't like any of these okay -- economic policies? i will vote right now. it doesn't have to be as sophisticated economic plan, and it's not. but for her part, she's trying to remind people of the other motives she's trying to vote for. sticking up for abortion rights. trying to disqualify a laxalt for plessis a. and everything i've seen about
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this context suggests that this would be a late night, an election night, and -- >> we will be watching, that for sure, garrett hague is going to talk to. you thank. you for nevada, and north carolina, early voting there underway as well. the senate, the big focus. they're so last week, a political action committee aligned with my senator majority leadership, schumer, and notice they were putting $8 million more than a republican congressman tim. but and i'm sure nbc's antonio hobbs fun everything. a unique event that happens all the time and in election time au courant yep. >> hey yasmin, today we are at the souls to the polls style event in the rally, where people have been coming in here and voting, in some cases for the very first time. and that's because they want to be their chance to vote, but it's because many of them were formerly incarcerated people who are law.
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pave the way for 60, or 50, six excuse me, 56,000 people to get their voting rights back. and, you know what, that may not sound like to some people a huge number, but wants to own a snack i mean, this is lovato going with -- sometimes by just a couple hundred votes. 16,000 people could make a significant impact in the series. these are voters who are onto anne. they are also aware of what it means to lose a right. and, so they often are very concerned about the ways of reproductive access with one snow anne. and this paved the way for a 56th of the new liu mignon.
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>> if you just walk in there and cast a vote? i >> did. >> what was going through your mind? >> after three years i was, like why do? whatever go? i got. it being. okay, no, it felt great. it felt great. >> it's been interesting seeing on the ground here in north carolina because you see a lot of people paying attention to racism in pennsylvania and jordan outremont. especially when you're looking at the senate candidates here. but the same issues are at stake and democracy is very much on the ballot here. and democrats sharing easily less than two points behind. ted budd here, the republican representatives running for senate and as you can pinched's
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and it really could come down to the wire here. the doha anne. early second term -- chance and first-time voters into her camp. >> that is something, that knows what voting means. that knows how incredibly important it is. it does not take it for granted pinched sucked. -- a new ad hitting republican challenger. >> i'm rafael warnock and i approve this message. for you herschel walker wants to ban abortion. >> no exception in my mind, i believe -- >> there's not a national ban on abortion right now, i think that's the problem. >> herschel walker, paid for an abortion for his then call
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friend. -- >> given his own silencing walker's line. >> is that your signature on the track though? >> all. >> and walker denies paying the woman to have that abortion. i want to tell you was a tremendous and abortion rights there could be a decisive issue. along with only used to give. >> the women who are pro-life.
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and killing babies from the time there is our be there is a child there. i just don't. -- i don't agree with that. like i said, only if there is a problem. you know? of course, if somebody is raped, you know, but again it would have to be of the stages. >> all right. it is certainly going to be a divisive, emotional discussion. but we are going to hear more from pennsylvania tomorrow, might you favorite, let's talk about abortion rights. an honest discussion featuring panelist from both sides of the issue, it's on his medical experts this happen, right here on msnbc.
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standing, but it is dark. it is really dark around the capital of kyiv, and that's because we are experiencing rolling blackouts after two weeks of bombardments. hundreds of projectiles fired by the russians, at the capitol and people through the capitol. i mean the targeting critical infrastructure, and by, that namely electricity and water services. that is why zelenskyy said, some nearly a third of electrical capabilities throughout the country have been shut down. that is why you are seeing darkness, not necessarily in the distance where there is some light here, but you know, in the foreground right here in central kyiv. it is quite dark. and that is something that the entire country is suffering from. as it seems as though russia is putting on a lot of effort law figure out what the european commission is described as, a war crime, and it is something that is right now a major inconvenience, major logistical problem for the ukrainians, come wintertime, you could be
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on -- but how -- >> if you could talk about the possibility of the city of kherson, being i guess, russian military, russian troops, retreating from that city? >> yeah, i mean, that's a good question. we've been talking about kherson for the beginning. it was one of the first major cities to be taken in by the actions until they finally took mariupol in the southeast on. and it looks like the russians are now retreating from kherson and now anticipating some major attack. there's been a major attack against kherson in the works from the beginning. and in many ways, the ukrainians kind of use that as a fake, they imply that they would be attacking kherson troops down there and then creating a massive attack in the northeastern part of a country. almost on the other side of the
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country but the northeast. could be like they're planning right now but it seems like we are law, back there that -- could have a double-barreled effect here. lost for the russians here in ukraine, there is a strategic, loss and kherson is a major city, it is the center of the kherson oblast, which is the one of the four obelisks in the region when nelly and there, also you, know it could be a say illogical effect. that is because carson was actually founded by the russians, katherine the great things nelly. -- >> not, probably from kyiv, i want to bring in igor, adviser to zelenskyy who has appeared on our broadcast many. time zeke, or it's good to talk
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to you. i want to talk first about what is happening over the last two weeks or so. at a point, we felt as if, and i'm sure you felt it as, well on the ground there, that the capital city of kyiv where you are was from family, it was fairly safe. there were not many attacks happening in that area and yet now it seems as if many of those attacks have resumed, as matt just pointed out to us they're rolling blackouts clear too. avoid the city give buying high target. what is it been like for you? >> well he has been first of all if i compare what is happening no to february and march into massive objects it's worse than it was in the winter, and spring. yes, we don't have the troops just as a cue, we can talk about it in terms of -- they are much worse. as i described one of the, days there was so much, sure, edited friends, mayors me in my house,
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but they sounded like she and i would have, to be, like yes, let me show you where it is. this is helpful even if it's 70. so, friends actually called me a couple days ago, during one of the blackouts, during the eight strikes, and basically said, look, this -- there is a positive side to this. i'm sitting there with my wife, no electricity, candlelight, wine, you know, chatter. and basically, putin said -- putin saved my marriage. that's what he told. me >> that's a good way to look at. it and by the, way it looks like it's working for you. considering how much law. and look what you've been able to do so far in defending your country and --
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i want to talk about kherson for a moment. there is this chapter it seems that russia and president biden were -- planning on pulling out of kherson. that would be, ukrainians are able to get back and take control of kherson. but also, that means the possibility of a follow-up attack, this is 1009 or another anniversary, coming from the ground there. what do you make of that dynamic there? and is that something you also need to see, is a bit like likely, to happen? >> well, there are a couple of fly importance that you see here first of her son is not the major city in ukraine, it's a lesson ukraine this immediate embargo so i won't be able to mention what is going on on the ground, but, there is definitely reason to be optimistic about what is happening in the south, in terms of ukraine's counteroffensive. plus, one thing that i can tell
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you, we have to watch the situation develop. closely. because putin will become desperate, and definitely the south of ukraine, that areas where the most patient events over the coming east sunbelt. but you will learn in trickles. >> two things i want you to weigh in, on, eager one was -- house minority leader kevin mccarthy, worried about a possible drawdown aid, if in fact republicans take control of congress saying, they are not going to write a blank check, to ukraine. especially if they're sitting on the reception but, then you have mitch mcconnell, senate minority leader saying essentially that the biden administration needs to do more for ukraine. >> why making those comments,
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are you worried about the possibility of a being pulled back if they were able to take control of congress? >> well, i write down all of it to the midterms -- domestic politics, the statements being made to get there to score points with the voters but you landry adele. and it's quite probation, let me put it that way. in terms of aid to ukraine, let me week one thing to distinct was that -- this ukraine is not how -- putin is not only attacking ukraine, they're talking nato, they're talking europe, and attacking everyone. we are on the frontlines. we're the ones fighting for you. so in fact, you're helping yourself, but you're helping ukraine. it's not like the money goes to, you know, buying new luxury
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goods of cards. it's open, to keep our energy sector running despite 40 years on bell. putin the -- you bell continue to be in the last eight months or so. now thank, you good to talk to. up next, everybody, in the wake of all the uvalde shooting, the texas government refused to an act any gun legislation, and now sending dna gets to parents to make that kids easier to identify in a tragedy. we will wear it back. l wear it back for chest, neck, and back. it goes on clear. no mess. just soothing comfort. try vicks vapostick. (vo) with their verizon private 5g network, associated british ports can now precisely orchestrate nearly 600,000 vehicles passing through their uk port every year. don't just connect your business. right on time. make it even smarter.
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jingle: liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. all right welcome back, many parents in texas are outraged after schools this week sent out dna and fingerprints kits. the reason to help identify children who might go, quote, missing. but while the kids don't mention school shootings, specifically red cross, whose ten-year-old son was killed the spring in uvalde, sarcastically tweeted this. yeah, awesome, once identified -- let's identify kids after they've been murdered instead of fixing issues that could ultimately prevent them from being murdered. joining me now is daniel campbell more, a reporter for today. parents daniel, good to talk to. you thanks for joining us on this. i'm wondering, how this all came about, because the timing is curious. five months after the uvalde school shooting, in which they had to use dna testing to identify some -- so many of these children because they were
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unrecognizable. >> right. thank you yasmin so much for having me. so, this is actually the outcome of a 2021 state senate legislation that was passed. and it was passed via the bill to provide these kids to schools, or students in schools, who are eligible, in the event that they may be kidnapped or sex trafficked. is what it says in the actual legislation. this also came about though after shootings in santa fe, where children were killed in their high school. and as you mentioned, about a year before those 19 children and two teachers were massacred in uvalde. so some may argue, perhaps the timing is just, you know, a really bad coincidence, but i think for so many parents in texas specifically about across the country, it really serves as another reminder about the government is willing to do literally anything else, other than pass common sense gun legislation in order to protect children, students, and teachers. >> you talk about other parts
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of the country as well, it seems like similar programs are being introduced in places like virginia as well, with the parents of students in sixth, seventh, and the eight grades, are gonna be receiving the kids -- -- i know you've been speaking to more parents in uvalde. since this got out what have they've been telling you? >> i have. and i have to be very honest it was difficult conversations because the parents are just exhausted. and i had the -- to share that this was just one of many issues that they are dealing with, continued calls for accountability in uvalde, school districts with all the law enforcement officers, who are present on that day, they're also taking care of their remaining children. there are no marking heavenly birthdays for the first time of their children. the trunk degree. and so all of them said, we are just tired. this is just one thing, in a line of things, that is just
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burying us. and so, it was heartbreaking. it was difficult to hear the exhaustion in their voices, and the anger, but also the despair. and yet,, they're still fighting. so they're not giving up, but they're definitely tired and they need some rest. >> i mean, yeah, and we're still learning more details about what took place on that day, or what didn't take place, i should say. on that day. hey, just quickly, what beto o'rourke is putting out there in response to these kids, these is greg abbott's texas. more school shootings in any state on his watch but no action to prevent the. next we will not allow this to be our future. we will keep our kids safe. any response from the governor, daniel? >> no, i reached out to greg abbott, i also reached out to the state senator who cosponsored the legislation that passed last year, another one of them gave any comment to today, or to nbc.
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