hey everybody. good afternoon, nice to see you. i am yasmin vossoughian. welcome. 16 days, just over two weeks,

until the midterm. a new msnbc poll out with stunning numbers that show how crucial people feel that this election actually is amidst a warning from the president, an exclusive interview with msnbc's jonathan caper. >> there's nothing automatic about democracy, even when you are in undergraduate school they talk about how our generation has to protect democracy. it really does. i think we are at one of those inflection points in history. >> meanwhile the former president making his first appearance at a rally since being subpoenaed by the january six committee. we will tell you what donald trump is saying. then, herschel walker's supporters standing by him in the wake of scandal. >> if you are okay with him paying for an abortion, why can't women make the same choice? >> i'm going to talk to the good liars jason selvig about what he heard from the walk of faithful at a rally and then at

our 3 pm hour, a very different conversation about abortion. >> can you have conversations with people who think the opposite of you on abortion? >> i really don't know if and i know anybody who is totally for abortion. >> i have lost some friends over this, i really have. it is very sad. >> i travel to pennsylvania to talk about this american divide over this very issue. i will be talking to a group of advocates on both sides as well as experts to address their concerns. it is a conversation that might be uncomfortable times but one that we think you should watch in our next hour , i hope you stick with us through it. first to the new msnbc news poll with eye-popping numbers when it comes to the midterms. 70%, get that, 70% of all voters are expressing high interest in the upcoming election. either a nine or a ten on a ten-point scale. that is the highest percentage ever in a survey for a midterm

election at this same point in time. 57%, just over half of all voters, so that this congressional midterm elections are more important them than past midterm elections. that is higher than 2018 when it was 52% or 2010 when it was just 50 for -- >> josh, some of these numbers are pretty astounding to say the least. what talk us through what we are seeing in this new poll from msnbc and where interest in what happens in november's haven't all-time high. >> well that certainly suggests that we could see turnout here on these midterm elections that would be higher than what we were traditionally expect from midterm elections, yasmin. typically people are not as enthusiastic. they don't turn out in the same numbers that they do in presidential years. the other figure that really jumps out to me from this poll it when we talk about tribalism in america and how much people prioritize their party, winning

over pretty much anything else. to see that to hers of both democrats and republicans say that even if the candidate of the party had some moral failing that was totally inconsistent with their own values, they would hold their nose and vote for them anyway with most of those people saying that their party winning control is more important than any personal failing. we also saw the president's approval rating holding firm at 45% in this poll, which is about where former president obama and trump were at this time. both of them lost dozens of house seats in those midterm elections that really shaped the rest of their presidency, not in a good way. president biden is urging a little bit of caution about these polls as he spoke to our colleague jonathan capehart. here's what he had to say. >> poll after poll shows that the american people trust republicans on the economy and think that republicans should control congress.

how do you -- >> i'm not sure about the pulse. the way people conduct pulls today it is, 90% of it, is on a telephone we have to call seven times and get to meet answer the phone. that's number one. number two, a lot of what we have done in the past is not kicked in yet. that is why these last several weeks, what i'm doing is saying that he is what we are for, here's what they are for, like a choice. >> you see the president they're trying to frame this election as a choice and not as a referendum on him, given those approval ratings, or the economy as or poll still shows significant pessimism among americans about the economy. with about half of them saying they don't expect anything to get better, only one in five americans at this point say they expect the economy to improve over the next 12 months, yasmin. >> josh for us, thank you josh.

let's dig deeper everybody, i want to bring it msnbc political contributor and analyst matthew -- who is country founder of country over party. overall, take a look at some of the new polling out. it seems like no matter what, as you are trying to put it right, this is about the struggle for total, absolute control for power. it does not matter who the messenger is, we collected order for some of the polling when it comes to her to locker and the recent controversy surrounding him. >> yeah, i think it's also reflective of another question nbc asked which is when they asked the parties do you think that the other party winning with threaten america. 80% of each party said the other party winning with threaten america in the course of forming their agenda, it shows that basically they're willing to hold their nose for 80 85% of people who will vote. that's why i always thought that this election is going to come down to a few hundred

thousand people spread across key states that will determine control of the house, control of the senate, in control of the state wide areas that are important in this election. it'll be a couple hundred thousand votes not over 100 million. >> that is astounding. so many 90 81, respectively, democrats. 81 democrats saying the other party is a threat to the country, 29 of republicans. you also compare that to voter enthusiasm and i can't help but think that democrats are bit concerned looking. that 69% of democrats have a high election interest versus 78% of republicans. i'm going to equate that with jurgen had form oaks more folks going to the polls are more enthusiastic about what they need to overcome. >> i would expect, i thought we would see a big turn with the set record like we did in 2018. and he will see another record in 2022 and what you had during

the 2018 and 2020, which makes a unique, is that this is not a red wave election like 2020 or a blue wave election like 2018. it is to crosscurrents reflected in the issues that they care about, what they see is the direction of the country, and all those things we have. the two major crosscurrents that are going to end up generating huge turnouts but extremely close election. my guess is that the state house is going to be decided by 1% or one and a half percent. in certain districts in the vote. true crosscurrents, no red wave, no blue wave, it will be decided over the next two weeks. >> steve kornacki says that is well. you think that this is not going to, we will have the answers on election night for sure. can we talk about what is most important to folks in this new poll. i believe it was the last new york times poll on how the economy was up top. if that's to democracy are 21%

in this latest poll and that is followed up by jahvon economy cost a living as well which you kind of put in the same pocket, right? immigration, i've heard a lot about immigration slip on the campaign as well and on the dates talking to folks, as well. abortion is number five. what do you make of this? how this is arranged here? >> so, bringing back my old life as a strategist where i worked for republicans and won ten of my life and democrats in the other. what i would do, basically if, i was a democrat i would make this an argument over the threats to democracy and bring in arguments like abortion, climate change, health care and make it a broad thing. this is what is done being democracy. if i was a republican shouted i would say run on inflation, run on the economy. what we're seeing is that republicans are doing that, in my view, and doing that well to a large degree. democrats are too diverse in their argument.

i think we need to go back in the final 14 days of this election and make a broad argument on the tour to democracy and bring up reproductive rights and climate change as part of what is threatening our democracy. that is the battle here. those two democracy versus inflationary economy and we will see how the argument is dunn. again, if our democrat i would certainly be putting time in money eye on the major threat that people see. >> it's usually the president doing that, right, on a national level? we have seen over the last couple weeks, but if you think the fight is happening for democrats on a hyperlocal level as well where they are trying to put these arguments out they're depending on what they feel their communities want to hear versus this one overarching argument. with republicans it seems, as you talk about, it is all about the economy wherever you are. matthew dowd, always great to talk to. thank you. the former president had already responded to the january six committees a peña

with a letter but last night we heard it put first public remarks on the matter. he has not, unsurprisingly, changed his tune. >> they sent me a subpoena the other day! they sent me a subpoena. these crooked people, crooked people, and the only thing they don't investigate, the only thing they don't want to do, they don't want to investigate is the corruption that took place in that election which was massive. the facts are all there. >> all right, let's bring in capital horse he'll score capitol hill correspondent ali rothe. let me start with you. subpoena already delivered to the president and now we wait. >> that's right, yasmin, and as we are waiting the last we heard from comes legal team at least they are still reviewing the subpoena, but as you mentioned at the time there is still no opinion or comment

from the point from president about what he wants to do, despite these reports that trump would only agree to testify before the committee on november 14th if it was done liven in public. if these reports are true, instantly enough, he wouldn't be the first person to have considered this. there's actually some polling to prove that it was done just a few days after the committee unanimously voted to issue the subpoena. it shows that 60% of americans believe trump should have testify and if he doesn't, but the majority of those people think it should be a public hearing. that is a possibility that liz cheney -- could hold could hold water on when asked about this on meet the press this morning. listen. >> it may take multiple days, and it will be done with a level of rigor and discipline and seriousness that it deserves. we are not going to allow the former president. >> he's not going to turn this

into a circus, this isn't going to be his first debate against joe biden and the circus in food fight that became. this is far too serious. we have made clear exactly what his obligations are and we are proceeding with that set out. but jasmine, what happens if trump doesn't comply with the subpoena is still up in the air, as far as the committee's plans. congress woman liz cheney said this morning that the committee has many alternatives they could consider besides a criminal contempt of congress referral like we saw with steve bannon to the doj if trump does not comply. she said for charges like inciting the mob to go to the, capital refusing to intervene for hours after that happened, but the question is whether the committee will used a limited time left, till january, until the new congress is sworn in, to actually do that. >> ali roth for us, thank you ali. let's talk to some of the stuff. we kind of want you to react

first what we just heard from liz cheney there, right? this possibility had been tangled out there may be that the former president will try to negotiate with the committee and then ultimately want to appear live for his testimony. it seems like they're not going to allow that. there was a sense that if he were to appear alive, that there might be an interest in doing that because he could feasibly, as the former president does, go off on a tangent and incriminate himself or lie under oath. >> i don't think there's any real likelihood that donald trump is going to agree to testify. i think his lawyers, if they are worth distillate, will keep him for testifying under oath because it's so difficult for him to tell the truth. as liz cheney said, if you allow him an open mic it risks the possibility of spewing additional disinformation and also gives him an opportunity to turn it into a circus. if you actually question someone at a position or for granary, it is a tedious

process and it requires repeating questions, rewording questions to listen answers from a witness and she said it could take multiple days to do that so i think a more sober process would be done behind closed doors and it seems like the committee wants to call the shots here and not just let donald trump have an open mic. >> i want to eat for you from the new york times, if i could. i am quoting a professor talk about the ways in which the former president can run out the clock, his legal team as well which is elevator possibility here. >> we are in a constitutional gray area, he says, that gives the former president some leeway to invoke various legal creative arguments and ultimately delay the process until it does not matter anymore. how real of a possibility if something like this happening? >> well, i think he could certainly run out the clock until the end of this congress, which will expire at the end of

this year and if republicans street control of the house then it seems likely that this committee will be disbanded. certainly he could probably invoke enough legal arguments to the lay past that november date on the subpoena in claims of executive privilege, other kinds of things and i think ultimately this cute little caden goes before a court the court would say that the interest in finding out what happened on january 6th outweighs any interest in executive privilege, which is a qualified privilege and would yield under the circumstances. i think if the house is retained by the democrats, and the committee continues its work, then i think at some point they could get on trumpian on the subpoena but that really puts these midterm elections in a very important posture for another reason. >> while i have, you barbara, i want to talk to you both the trump organization tax fraud trial. that is starting tomorrow, 20 select jury selection beginning for that, tomorrow what are you gonna be watching for? what will you be looking out

for? certainly with your evidence alleged in the indictment when we are another as to whether the organization engaged in that scrupulous business practices to evade taxes, but corporations don't act on their own, the act only through their officers and employees. i'll be looking to here through the role of donald trump, eric trump, or others within the family who are the ones making the decisions about how the organization conducted business. >> i imagine it will be a very difficult process into choosing that jury, considering there are a lot of people who have an opinion on the former president. . >> i think that's right. the question for jurors is not so much whether they have heard of donald trump, but whether they can set aside any opinions they may have about him and decide the case based on the facts and the laws stubborn to them in court. i think they can probably find enough fair minded people, it may take a few strikes to get there, but people who are able to decide this.

>> great to talk with you. still ahead everybody, our special in-depth discussion about the issues facing this key issue in the midterm elections. >> that baby inside your body is -- it has a right to live. >> abortion is a woman's right. >> stick around for let's talk about abortion rights. three eastern here on msnbc. coming up this hour, threats to election workers. the steps being taken to prevent violence as people head to the polls. plus, horrifying moments from residents in siberia. one fighter jet crashed into a residential building. you will hear both of the coalition. right after this. right after this create something new? our dell technologies advisors can provide you with the tools and expertise you need to bring out the innovator in you. bipolar depression. it made me feel trapped in a fog. this is art inspired by real stories of bipolar depression. i just couldn't find my way out of it.

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he is expected to be named president once again in march as this new five year term since xi is the most influential leaders since maui shade aung. a short time ago in russia, a fighter jet crashed into a residential building -- the region's governor sharing this video appearing to show the aftermath. he said both pilots were killed, but local residents were not hurt. in ukraine, that country continued and fight off russian airstrikes as russian state media claims that ukraine is planning a sinister attack. with us from the capital city of kyiv, what do you make of this back and forth and this steep and buy statement by moscow that ukraine is in fact planning a sinister attack? >> yeah, we just heard from ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy and of course this isn't true any of heard phone various government officials in kyiv saying that this is absurd. what we are hearing is that the

defense minister of russia, he called his counterparts in the u.s., france, great britain, in turkey and said that he suspects that the ukrainians are planning a false flag operation, planning to that need some sort of nuclear device in ukraine and then blaming it on the russians. a false flag attack. the ukrainians have said that that is exactly what the russians are doing, they are the ones planning a false flag attack and they might be doing some type of nuclear shenanigans as well, this is all extremely troubling because the truth is very elusive here. it seems as though the russians are the ones who are lying, because they've not provided any evidence to backup their claims and it looks as though they're trying to get out in front of the misinformation by projecting it towards the west, towards the united states. this is the second time that the defense must minister a russia has reached out to the defense secretary in three days.

he did this when he spoke with ben wallace, the defense minister of the united kingdom. he said that it was the united kingdom who is helping the ukrainians in an effort to create a false flag situation. this is an area of threatening development where looks like russians or ukrainians will be developing something powerful and escalating the already troubling wall that is taking a taxing toll on civilians in this country. or you take it as a sign of desperation on the kremlin sized as they are losing so much crowned south of kherson and all along the thousand-mile front to ukraine. yasmin. >> losing ground and support, it seems from, inside the country as well. especially with this current draft. matt left badly for us, as always we thank you. coming up everybody, the director of new documentary shining a light on texas state senator wendy davis who famously filibustered anti abortion bill in galvanize a new generation of activists.

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just 16 days to go until the midterms, a new msnbc news poll shows that much of the country still at odds over the last election. 60% of respondents, overall, said that they believe joe biden legitimately won the presidency in 2020, including hundreds of democrats. 65% of republicans say he did not. that has led some americans to take aim at how elections are run and who runs them. in nevada, ten of its 17 counties have seen a top election official resign or decided not to seek reelection. at least four of those officials so that harassment or efforts to overturn the 2020 election contributed to their decision. a lot county, preparing for threats of violence has become part of their ordinary preparations. >> we have an outstanding relationship with all of our

law enforcement in clark county. we've had long conversations about our expectations are they are partners with us. they know that we will do dual judgments first and when we call them, we need them to respond and they are ready to do so. >> -- has spent 18 years as the director of elections in illinois and is part of the -- which helps to keep elections free and fair nationwide. a much-needed organization right about now. thanks for joining us, we appreciate it. talk to us about what elections group does. >> we try to keep our head to the ground and in previous years we help support a pivot to supervise -- ramping up implementation of new technologies, so just supporting the best community of americans that there are. >> it is interesting because the issue goes far beyond

nevada, as we have talked about. the same reuters investigation found. let me show it to you. 51st i'll count -- one county's entire staff, many of these states are critical to determining the national election. how concerning are these numbers to you? >> yeah, look it's a very tough right now. it was hard to begin with. back when it started it was a logistics games. we called it the wedding planner era of election, just putting people together in a church or school -- [inaudible] spending billions of dollars on technology, the russians in 2016 council some data and then we have to become national security cyber sleuths and then we can figure out how to be

come account experts, and communications experts to convince a skeptical public that these elections are true. it is the hardest job in america. right now it is too much for too many of them, they all adapt to their professional competencies to meet those moments but now they're looking in the mirror and looking for tales, driving home different routes, installing bulletproof glass into the office. one in six election officials have been threatened. three of four know that colleagues have been threatened. that is too much. >> you talk about election officials, it is voters as well being threatened. there is video obviously a merging of a voter being followed home, what are you doing or what will your organization be doing to protect voters? >> look, we are member and i am a member of the committee for safe and secure elections, so it across partisan collaboration of current and former election officials and

law enforcement officers. we are working -- in election officials. you heard mr. -- talk about the relationship they have enough nevada. election officials need observation. it is institutional, we are built to have it for both parties. republicans and democrats sitting at the table, through the entire process. that's the way it has always been. when observation turns to intimidation, that is just too far. >> thank you, noah. good to talk to you. so tonight at 10 pm eastern on msnbc you can catch the premiere of shouting down midnight. a new documentary from msnbc films, the first edition of our turning point series executive produced by trevor noah. it tells the story of texas state senator wendy davis and her 13 hour-long filibuster to block an anti-abortion bill. the woman who it galvanized, the women, i should say it galvanized.

here's a clip preview. >> everywhere you went, there was people. later on the ended up having to close to people the doors, you can lead anybody else and it was so crowded. >>. >> a group of 20 woman and ten antonio all in their 60s and 70s, 9:00 at night, they said we are going to the capital. they wanted to be part of this, they wanted to say stop this. >> i have seen women who marched on washington back in the day and then young people who have never been to any kind of action in their life. >> it was really cool, i kind of sense of community that it was creating the spot that no matter what happens we will also be in this together, for the long run. >> we are coming back! we are coming back! we are coming back! >> there were these moments in

the day when the building would literally come alive, i could feel it under my feet. >> [applause] >> so by the car's behavior, we came together to refer folks to where there we were were refer to as an unruly mob, they have since taken that mantra and worn it with pride. >> camilo is the film director, questions told she. watching those numbers of the film it is so incredibly inspiring, reminding you again in that moment of where we are in this country right now when it comes to abortion right after the overturn of roe. what inspired you to want to make this film? >> well, you know, like so many people watching the filibuster was really a wake up call for me. i am of the generation that grew up with the protection of roe and i was not aware that we

were slowly losing that. on that day, as i watched senator davis stop time and demand accountability from the bills authors it became very clear how far we have come. how close we have come, to losing those protections. when what i heard in the stories, especially the letters that she wrote was a really good history of abortion law in our country and once it became clear how many people were galvanized by this day and inspired to take action and advocate on behalf of others, it just was a story that i could not not pursue. >> a big part of the story, right, was the 13-hour long filibuster, the letters that were read during those 13 hours from other women. so incredibly powerful that got

wendy davis through that time period. it also helped us learn so much. what did you learn from those letters? >> you know, one thing that when he points out when she during the filibuster is that everyone has a unique and different reason for wanting to preserve these protections. everyone has a different story. that's what you really heard in these letters, there were people who had had abortions of wanted pregnancies, pain abortions that they had no question they wanted for whatever reason. there are people who had pre roe abortion stories and it was just a breath of the freedoms that are afforded by the right to abortion is what really came through with those letters.

>> what do you think is ahead as we look forward from the fight for abortion rights after roe? >> >> it is hard to say what legislatures will do now because roe is no longer constitutionally guaranteed, it is the regulation of abortion is now turned over to the states, so it will be up to every state to decide what they're going to do and that's going to be up to us. we can vote. one thing we can do within our democratic process is vote in trying to turn to determine who are elected officials are who represent us. that's the first thing. the next thing that i really took from making this film is the inspiration for my characters that i learned no matter who you are, whether a 13 year old and middle school, a 19 year old and community college, they are something you can do. there is an action you can take towards the change you want to see and advocating towards others. >> really quickly here gratton.

if you would have made a different film, had this been made after the dobbs decision? >> oh. >> most definitely. this film couldn't have been made in the other way then i made it. we are following people over the course of the last nine years after the lives were really changed. everyone in this film felt galvanized and felt that their lives were transformed by this one moment. while this one moment can seem kind of like one headline, it's a fact and the way transforms lives takes time. he don't see that without following people for years and years. i am sure that, actually, there are many post dobbs films being created now. and that we see them. >> gretchen stolte, thank you so much for sharing this film with us. the film is called shouting down midnight, part of the new top winter series the turning

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>> but murder, people go to jail for that -- >> it depends what you call murder. >> one half of the good liars, the other was not able to join us unfortunately. and i think he had a scheduling conflict, as he could make its television today. doesn't want to move up in the world? >> i don't know. i don't know. >> -- some of the polling that we're getting is from nbc. would you still vote for your party's candidate if you like about moral failure of theirs? >> 67 of republican said yes, 63% of democrats said yes as well. that is in line with what you are hearing on the ground despite what herschel walker is being accused of. paying for an abortion, though he denies it. it's about power. >> yeah. herschel walker has a history of lying about things big and small, which kind of reminds

you of another republican that had power recently. he lied if that he was at top of the class in georgia, turns out he wasn't even graduating from georgia. . republicans and those with christian values have kind of made a deal with the devil whose actions don't represent their values, but who will act of a fighter for them in government and protect those values in government. they got that with donald trump, who is not like the most christian guy in the world, but they got roe v. wade overturned and they're doing it now with herschel in georgia. >> i want to play the moment, jason i can't believe that you actually did this. so, i want to put this out there, that we do not condone this type of behavior. i understand that you are in the comedy business, we are in news, you end up on the stage and this guy is a former running back, mma fighter,

security around him, you confront him with condoms and what is he saying to you? first of all how do you do something like that? what is going through your mind? you must be a little scared. >> honestly i wanted to help herschel out, okay? he has been caught in all of these scandals and criticize absent fathers, though he is now absent father. he has three children. he says he's pro-life and then the report comes out from the daily beast that he might have paid for an abortion and all of these herschel walker scandals would not exist if he just won a condom. so, i thought i had the opportunity, i happen to have a couple rolls of condoms on me, so i went up and i offered him the condom for him to make better choices in the future? >> what was he saying to you? >> i don't really know. i mean he said a bunch, what

we're gonna do, over gonna do. i think he says we're gonna get you off the stage, but now that i like watch the clip and think about what happened in the moment he kind of like touched me with some force there. i think he thought for a second about throwing me off the stage involved body slamming me, or something like that. watching the video now i'm happy things didn't go worse. >> i also know, i do want to get this in, then you actually asked some of the supporters about the moment on the stage in which the herschel walker flashed at the police badge. let's listen to what they have to say. >> do you think herschel walker is claiming to be a police officer but not really a police officer? >> herschel was never a police officer, he was an honorary police officer. so he's not lying. >> if kids come and visit the department, do you give them the -- >> we have a junior badge, that's for kids. for the children like, oh it's

basically like kind of a fun thing you give to kids to make them feel special, the batches? >> the junior deputy brett that, yes. it is a plastic bath. >> talking to the former member law enforcement it seems that he sees nothing wrong with misrepresenting herschel walker misrepresenting himself. >> yeah, i will defend herschel walker for the bad issue because, like herschel, i like to pull out chairs badges on national television. but this one i bought it halloween adventure for three 99. like herschel, i will not admit that i was indeed having any records of working there. i don't mind a halloween adventure, i'm not sure that's where he bought his as well. this is about the whole lying issue. the argument republicans are making. he is a liar who is lying about being member of law enforcement, but the republicans know this liar is going to be a liar that

is working for republicans in the senate if he is elected. i think they're fine with it. >> jason selvig, we are set the robbers on here, we are glad you are able to join us and happier able to make it after the confrontation on the stage. boy you have some guts to do something like that, thank you, jason. >> thank you. >> i could talk to you. all right everybody, we've a lot more ahead on our next hour. a very important conversation. i guess there is maybe a line if a woman's life is at risk. >> i don't think you should ever be the doctor's choice. >> who should be put making potentially lifesaving decisions for our health care, we'll discuss that in official, a special, let's talk about abortion rights. stay with us. stay with us and when people ask, “but aren't you linked to dangerous flu complications, like pneumonia, heart attack, and hospitalizations?” i just say, “but, i'm just the flu.” it's him!

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vossoughian let's talk about abortion rights. a special look at the issue that is crucial in the upcoming elections. crucial to the future of women in this country. we have set out to hear from all sides even those you will no doubt disagree with to try to better understand the implications for all of us. >> where do you think life begins? >> at conception. >> conception? >> have you always felt that way? >> i have. >> when a child is born and takes that first breath. >> from the time there's a heartbeat there is a child

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