tv The Mehdi Hasan Show MSNBC October 23, 2022 5:00pm-6:00pm PDT
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that is all the time i have heard today. i'm alicia menendez. i'm gonna see you back here next weekend for more american voices. for now, i handed over to mehdi hasan. , hi mehdi. >> hello, alicia. have a great rest of your night, thank you so much. havetonight on the mehdi hasan , a clear and present danger, congresswoman lauren boebert more than questionable behavior
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on and around january the 6th. yet, she has not been held accountable at all, why? i will ask the former adviser to the january six committee and former republican congressman, denver riggleman. plus, that republicans are coming. poised to regain power, the gop started outlining their priorities. if that doesn't scare you, i will tell you why it should. and how big an issue should abortion before democrats heading into the midterms? i will ask senator tina smith. ♪ ♪ ♪ good evening. i'm mehdi hasan. you probably all know the name lauren bowman by now. conservative firebrand, freshman republican congresswoman from colorado. we all like to laugh about lauren bowman. she makes it so easy given she says and does such ridiculous things. here she is this week when she called women lesser vessels. take a look at this. >> we are not the same women,
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women at the lesser vessel. we need masculinity in our lives to balance that, that so-called weakness. >> the only weakness to speak of is in the merits of boebert 's -- argument. which comes from a woman who, let's not forget, last month hilariously confused how the romans viciously destroy their enemies with a delicious delectable dumpling. >> they made life hell on earth with their envy want on killing. i don't know what i want on killing is. i will have to look that went up. it sounds interesting. i don't think i want to be a part of it. >> one-time killing. i get why you want to laugh at lauren boebert. tonight, i want to discuss with you why boebert is actually dangerous. especially in the context of january the 6th. trump white house aide cassidy
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hutchinson who served as chief of staff mark meadows's assistant, told investigators that boebert was among four members of congress that she could recalled meeting with meadows as early as late november of 2022, quote, raise the idea of having -- stop the certification of joe biden's victory on january 6th. and that's according to the person who kept mark meadows his schedule for him. also in the wake of the 2020 election, democratic congressman steve cohen revealed he and another lawmaker saw boebert give a large group a possible reconnaissance tour of the capitol a few days before the attack. something boebert strenuously denied. she said the only people she let around the capitol complex were members of her family. and then there is boebert's behavior on january the 6th itself. less than a week after being sworn in, after vowing on a bible to uphold the constitution, the congresswoman began the day by tweeting, quote, today is 1776. excuse me? feeling very revolutionary that morning, where she, maybe? in the mood for a call to arms
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along with her morning cup of coffee, perhaps? the afternoon -- as the insurrectionists breached the capitol boebert was publicly sharing nancy pelosi's movements. speaker of the house pelosi second in the presidential line of succession. quote, the speaker has been removed from the chambers. it wasn't just boebert's liberal critics who were outraged by her behavior on 16, behavior that jeopardized this authority of her own republican colleagues, like congresswoman jamie herrera beutler. >> -- don't ask about security if you're telling -- where we are at. i yield back. >> that was something that was being broadcast live from c-span and once we were on the move, there was absolutely nothing else that was, that was broadcast. >> even the former republican speaker of the house in lauren boebert's home state of colorado, a man named russell george, says her actions on january 6th were unforgivable. unforgivable! adding that she absolutely shares responsibility for the
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attack on the capitol. yet, one hugely important group has not really commented on lauren boebert's apparent role in the events of 16. now select committee charged with investigating the election. why was no one -- never subpoenaed by the panel to give her testimony to investigators? five republican lawmakers, including house minority leader kevin mccarthy, or summoned in may to appear. but not boebert. again, i ask, why? again, the 16 committee has done great work uncovering vital and shocking information, egging on the department of justice to take action faster. but its work has been far from perfect. i don't understand the lack of a subpoena for lauren boebert, for example. or the lack of a subpoena for testimony on -- from ginni thomas, life -- wife of clarence. it took a year and a half to subpoena donald j trump himself. on friday, the committee on formally issued a subpoena to the former president to produce documents by november the 4th and to appear to testify by
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november the 14th. although there is no way that actually happened before the committee wraps up its work at the end of the year. which brings me to this. and the clock is ticking. and that pages on the proverbial calendar are flying by. we are a little more than two weeks out from midterm elections that are likely to return republicans to lead one if not both chambers of congress. we are only weeks away from a new congress, where instead of instigating and attempted overthrow of the united states government, we've been -- joking vest again of covid's origins, doj supposedly politicized, and hunter biden's, we'll, everything. the 1/6 committee has yet to even release its report, promised before the years, and the panel will give its conclusions and recommendations after the midterms. and then be disbanded by a republican-led house. sorry, america. there is no time to save democracy. you will have to live with election officials being hounded out of office in
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crucial swing states like nevada, as reporters -- you will have to live with voters in the crucial swing state of arizona. they used drop boxes to hand in ballots, being harassed in the -- the post reported this weekend. you will have to live with that president of the united states, former president, challenging that 2022 elections, starting in philadelphia, when the election day is still two weeks out. that's what rolling stone is reporting. as for lauren boebert, laugh all you want at which he says, but what she does, that has stopped being funny a long time ago. one man who knows all about the 16 committee is denver riggleman, the former air force and intelligence in a foster from virginia. served one term in congress as a republican, where he was a member of their freedom conquer -- after upsetting many voters in the district for officiating the weapon -- that having been endorsed by
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then president trump. once out of congress, riggleman was hired to advise the house committee investigating the insurrection, due to his expertise and intelligence gathering, especially online extremism. his team discovered text between trump's chief of staff mark meadows and ginni thomas. riggleman details his journey from freedom caucus member to investigating his colleagues for trying to overthrow the government in his new book, the breach. the arc of that journey is also reflected in a midterms campaign ad, with riggleman supporting the reelection of his former colleague democratic congresswoman abigail stan burger of virginia. for riggleman, right now, the stakes could not be -- his warnings could not be stalker. quote, we have a new enemy in this country, he writes, a dust medic stream us movement that is growing online at fiber optics. denver riggleman joins me now. thank you so much for coming on the show. on a scale of 1 to 10, what score out of ten would you give the work of the 16 committee so
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far? what grade would you give it? how do you explain why the committee has never subpoenaed the likes of lauren boebert? >> i listen to that whole beginning, that was amazing. i would give a grade of about an 8.8. and then 1.2 off of that ten is the lack of speed. for me, once you see data, and data is perishable, time is paramount. when you look at lauren boebert, there is actually over three dozen active members on meadows text messages. lauren, even though i would love to talk to her about her 1776 tweet and also her tweet about pelosi, which either you are ignorant about operational security, or you are threatened and doing things you should be doing. whether you get shot on purpose or accident, you are still being shot. it's a military thing. what she did was just ridiculous and unconscionable. we still have over three dozen members on the meadows text messages that we need to talk to, as far as i'm concerned. i wasn't quite sure about those
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types of things, except for the political ramifications of that, the optics going after a sitting congressional member. that doesn't take into account senators, cabinet members, former members of congress that we're all sending text messages. i think there is a long way to go. i think the committee has done a great job. the hearings, obviously, have identified a team of crazies was running the white house. i think, right now, we need to look forward and we need to see what happened two years ago in order to try to almost predict what we could see in the future with any type of election overthrow activities. whether it's violence, option electors, or manipulating state houses in order to discount votes. that's why i am so -- >> there's been some reporting on -- and speculation about -- the thomas's, and why took so long for the committee to speak with ginni thomas. when they did speak with her, it wasn't on a subpoena. in your view, to your knowledge, did the delay in the committee speaking to ginni thomas, and
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again, not even under subpoena, under oath, even though she clearly tried to overturn the election, was that a result into whole or in part republican vice chair of the committee liz cheney wanting to protect clarence analysts thomas? >> i don't know what's in liz's heart. i don't know what's in the committee's heart. i will tell you this, once you see the data, you have to react and attack. you have to be proactive. when you see these things, back in february and march, when the ginni thomas text popped, when we heard of other things, obviously, with the special counsel policy where jimmy likes to hang out with individuals who are also in the text messages, i thought we should be a very aggressive with her. there are thousands of interviews. i'm not trying to make excuses. i'm pretty blunt about this, there, are more other considerations but i thought the ginni thomas tax messages or the most important text messages in the entire 2319 text messages we received. >> the liz cheney role? >> liz is the vice chair of --
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makes the final decision with the elect committee members. i think at times, they wanted -- they were very sensitive. for me, i understood the politics and optics of it. they had brought me and based on 20 years of counterterrorism experience. my pushback was i thought we should go then. they had other decisions to make. i was in control of that. i went backwards, more or less, right? even though the staff does all the work. gonna go from sitting congressman or former congressman to go back to take and that type of position i thought was very important. they had the power, really, to either take my suggestion or not. i still think the, really, we should be looking into that. there are so many factors there when you look at all three branches of governments. we know the executive and legislative branch were involved. we know there were massive legal strategies ginni thomas was into.
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i think we need to take that tactical step and look into it at that time. >> the committee itself, the 1/6 committee, is pretty annoyed at you for writing this book, and for some of your claims. the significance of a reported nine second call from the white house to an insurrectionist. committee members zoloft minh set of your claims that they did not pan out and said, i don't know what mr. riggleman is doing, really. congressman adam schiff, another committee member, said your claims is a real risk to the committee's work and credibility. what do you say to them? >> that's wrong. i would like to know which claims did not pan out. i think, a lot of that, what has to do with that is the data, when you have millions of lines of data, when you are trying to explain it in that type of time it's very difficult to get it across in a way that's understandable to everyone. the committee members have never done anything like this. i probably have more experience doing this than the entire congressional delegation combine. i think part of the issue was that, again they, had so many different responsibilities. i have ultimate respect for the
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committee. when you hear things like that, after what they know i did, my technical teams are still supporting the committee today, anything that did not pan out was something that i found out that did not pan out, whether it was emails or text messages or phone numbers, based on what they asked. our committee, our job, the teams that i built, was to validate the data of the text messages but also call detail records and subpoena information. i am very proud of the technical teams. i think they were little worried about the work itself. they said those things. now that they read the book, i think my guess is you've seen they've been a bit more quiet since then. >> in the book, you talk about being in congress in the far-right house freedom congress and being discussed in the likes of paul gosar and steve king saying openly racist things. but you chose to join the house freedom caucus, you chose to vote with trump more than 90% of the time. more than 90%. you can understand why some of our viewers might see your conversion to being an anti trump pro democracy republican
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as too little too late. >> i honestly don't care what they think. i look at the data as we go forward and that is part of my job. when i see it, you react to it. if you were wrong before, you move forward with it and you do the best you can. your viewers, whoever is trying to judge me, they need to see what i've been doing back since may or july of 2020, when i came out against qanon and took a resolution. december 10th, my final speech. very difficult for me, after 2 to 3 years the face ripped off from either the far left, not trusting me, the far-right thinking i'm a traitor. at this point, if you don't like the facts and data, or you want to find some personal issue with me because you don't understand -- i honestly don't care. listen to what it is or don't. the fact is, i was very proud of my record in congress. i did some things in congress, as you know, that turned the gop against me. and so, right now, in 2022, we
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are really trying to fight to see the -- democracy. if there is still that kind of issue where you have got to -- a little bit of a pain in your backside about me, let's move forward and work together and protect democracy. >> 20 seconds left. quick last question. you tweeted today, it's going to get worse before it gets a lot worse. what do you mean by that? 20 seconds. >> we've been looking at the data very quickly. i was talking about kanye specifically. it looks like they are using terms related to adolf hitler with racist terms. he's becoming very popular with white supremacists. other politicians also. i'm looking at the blue in the data with antisemitism and the worst language in a long time. >> former congressman denver riggleman, thank you for your time. we will have to leave it there. the new book is titled in the breach. the handle story of the investigation in the january the 6th. coming up next, senator tina smith -- thank you -- coming up, senator tina smith here to discuss midterms and
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held one month ago. more concerning for democrats, abortion has dropped as a major issue for voters. that same nbc news poll, abortion trails behind reliably republican trunk hold issues like the economy, the cost of living, like immigration. it's not just that, pull or rather contentious new york times cnn poll from last week, 4% of voters saying abortion is the most important issue facing the country today. while again issues like the economy and inflation led the way. democrats all across the country have been campaigning on abortion rights for months now. to be clear, they should be. the overturning of roe v. wade has created a dangerous environment for women in this country. but critics are warning that a focus on only abortion and not the economy could cause democrats at the palette box. joining me now is democratic senator from minnesota, tina smith. thank you so much for coming back on the. show senator smith, before you were in politics, you worked for plant parenthood in your state. abortion access is clearly an
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important personal issue for you. with this latest polling, do you still think democrats should be making abortion and the roe issue the number one issue right now? >> it's great to be with. i'm very horse tonight because i spent all weekend out talking to voters about a whole range of issues, including abortion. i can tell you that in minnesota, abortion continues to be a galvanizing issue. i have talked to hundreds and hundreds of people. i see it at the door's, i see the number of volunteers turning out. it's pretty simple. one in four american women will get an abortion in their lifetimes. this is a core issue of freedom. it's a health care issue, not a political issue for most people who are facing the decision about abortion. i think there's a lot of pulling out there right now. i come from that wellstone of the party -- i believe in what i hear in the
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field organizing we are doing, we are in the final stretch. i think it's a close race. it is a winnable race. i'm very optimistic. >> i'm sorry about your voice. i promise i won't keep you for a long on the show. i appreciate you still doing the show despite your voice. i'm going to ask about your fellow progressive colleague in the senate, bernie sanders, who's been warning democrats can't just coast a victory on abortion. they need to have an economic message as well. is that a fair criticism? >> i would say that bernie is simply saying we are trying to coast a victory on abortion. i disagree with that. i agree, however, that there are many issues on voters minds in these last weeks of the election. we need to connect with voters on all those issues at not just on one. you know, mehdi, voters don't approach elections with this what are my top five issues? they are trying to make decisions about who they think is going to best represent their values.
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that's what i saw, for example, today when i was visiting black churches in st. paul, minnesota, where people are ready to vote. they are already voting because they can see in the core difference between democrats and republicans. we have a very close house race here in minnesota that will make a difference in who is in charge of congress. i'm excited about the prospects there. >> what is the democratic party solution, senator, for raising prices to inflation? we were told it would be transitory. it wasn't. voters clearly are mad about. it what is the solution? >> of course they are mad about. they are seeing their buying power and economic stability changing because of the rise of prices. first of all, we understand that inflation is a global issue. we also understand democrats have been taking action -- for americans. including lowering prescription drug prices, lowering energy prices and inflation reduction
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act. the actions that the president has taken in the short term -- meanwhile, the republicans have no ideas for what to do. sure, they are repealing the good steps we've already taken. and they are very ill informed -- rolling back of the aca and making cuts the medicare and social security. again, it's a clear choice. it is a close race. but it is a clear choice. i want to also point out and that we are fighting against one billion dollars in dark money outside money flowing into the support of republican senate candidates. that's why what happens at the field level, getting out the vote is our antidote to that dark money. >> last question, president biden told my colleague that his intention is to run for president again in 2024. will you be supporting him when he does? would you prefer someone else,
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someone younger? >> i will certainly support the president if he decides to run. to be perfectly honest, i am 100% focused on making sure that we -- in this state, as minnesota attorney general and governor walz and my colleagues in the senate. i'm very focused on that right now. >> senator tina smith, you will be delighted to hear that was my last question. you can go and rest your voice now. we appreciate you taking time out. >> thank you for your patience. great to be with you. >> thank. you feel better soon. coming, up the very real and frightening plans republicans want to enact if they regain power. but first, richard louis is here with the headlines. hello, richard. >> good evening to you, mehdi. some breaking news. nbc news confirming north korea and south korea have exchanged fire. it started when a north korean ship crossed the maritime border in the yellow sea, entering into an area it should not have. south korean forces then fired warning shots. north korea then fired ten
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artillery shells in response. we are toward told the north korean ship turned back. more as we get that right. here former british leader, boris johnson, will not be in the running to replace his successor, outgoing uk prime minister and his trust. -- did support him getting it to 10 downing street. then he released a statement sunday saying it was, quote, simply not the right thing to do. russian forces are pulling troops from ukraine's kurson region as the ukrainian counter offensive draws near. keith claimed on sunday that moscow is withdrawing elite units and officers from the west bank of the dnipro river. russia annexed the southern kherson region just last month. more of the mehdi hassan show just after this break. break. e who do get it bad, it may be because they have a high-risk factor. such as heart disease, diabetes, being overweight, asthma, or smoking. even if symptoms feel mild, these factors can increase
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power, what's on their congressional agenda for the next two years. well, i am sorry to say, it's a bunch of crazy, outrageous, and cynical stuff. give me 60 seconds to break it down for. you all from the gop horses mouth. start the clock. what do republicans want to do if they retake the house? listen to their own words. they say they want to investigate hunter biden -- investigate his father. they want to impeach president joe biden, impeach vice president kamala harris, impeach attorney general america -- anthony blinken, they say they want to issue subpoenas to the state department. they want to investigate joe biden's -- they say they wanted to block further aid into ukraine. they want to shut down the government, not drive -- extort the and pressured what. house gop congressman -- a major leverage point. they want to cut social security medicare by bringing spending gaps and she just eligibility. they want to pass a 15-week nationalist worsened -- they say they want to pass a national don't say gay law, they want to pass a national bill to criminalize gender -- transgender kids.
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they don't want to defund the police but they do want to defund the justice department. and a defund the fbi in order to protect. honorably say they want to do all these things, investigations, but help ordinary americans with housing costs, student, at gas prices? they've got nothing. nothing. next, the professor kimberly crenshaw is here to discuss her new book talk. don't forget, you can listen to the mehdi hasan show anytime free wherever you get your podcasts. try zegerid otc. it contains the leading medicine to treat frequent heartburn, uniquely designed for absorption. get all day, all night relief with zegerid otc. for people living with h-i-v, keep being you. and ask your doctor about biktarvy. biktarvy is a complete, one-pill, once-a-day treatment used for h-i-v in certain adults. it's not a cure, but with one small pill, biktarvy fights h-i-v to help you get to and stay undetectable.
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unique book titles that have been banned across america between the summers of 2021 and 2022, according to data collected by p.e.n. america. 1648 book banning has become a rallying cry for right-wing republicans and conservative christians. but they are not the only ones. in dearborn michigan, republicans are now joining forces with conservative muslims angry over lgbtq affirming books in school libraries, so the movements have been books fueled by this false notion from the right that schools across the nation are brainwashing impressionable young kids with radical theories on gender and sex, race, it isn't going away anytime soon. it is growing, in fact. some organizations are fighting back. the african american policy forum, alongside the transformative justice
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coalition has organized the books and violent tore, bringing banned books to people across the country in an effort to especially mobilize black voters ahead of the midterms. they recognize that the fight for truth in education is linked to voting rights and voting mobilization. joining me now to discuss this is kimberly crenshaw, executive director at the african american policy formula. professor at columbia university, whose work has been foundational for both critical race theory and intersectionality studies. kimberly, thank you so much for coming back on the show. you and i have discussed before the gop's attack on schools, on books, teachers, education. but what made you start this particular venture, pushing back against book banning right now? what are you hoping to achieve from it? >> well, mehdi, always glad to be back on. right now, of course, we are looking at the midterms. it's coming up in a couple weeks. we knew that many voters did not know that the midterms were coming. even more importantly, they
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didn't really have a sense of what was at stake. we, at the african american policy forum, we are delighted to join the transformative justice coalition, black voters matter push, to go to 15 states, 24 cities, to activate black voters, to let them know that this election was important. and for our part, at the african american policy for him, we wanted to make clear that the same people that were out to gerrymander their votes, to undermine and suppress their political participation where the same ones who were trying to gerrymander history and to suppress our voices and our history. it is not a surprise if you know anything about our history that the effort to suppress the vote and suppress knowledge, to suppress literacy, to suppress the right to tell the truth, have always gone hand in hand.
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it's no different now. i think a lot of voters, now that they understand that, are even more motivated to vote than they were before. >> forgive, me as i ask you a very political question, but how motivated do you think black voters are right now, specifically by these ongoing right-wing attacks on black history? >> you know, i can tell you that when i started to talk about the suppression of black history, there was a lot of head nodding. then when i told them specifically some of the things that were being suppressed, classic books, like the bluest eye by tony morrison. the color purple, new classics like ta-nehisi coates between the world and me, they knew a little bit about the suppression of 16 19. when they heard the story of rudy bridges being suppressed, even stories that were designed to tell little black it's what our history is, what we have struggled through, what we have triumphed over, they got angry
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when they heard about that. they were motivated when they heard about that. they brought their kids to read the books with us. i think the recognition that this so-called war on critical race theory is really a war on anti racism. the ability to talk about the fact that we are still not the country that we claim to be and that, for us to save our democracy, we have to be able to participate in it. when those two ideas come together, that's a strong motivating factor going into the midterms. >> on the one, how do you have christian conservatives, nationalist pushing this authority -- authoritarian back book banning agenda, attacks on schools and educators. in a place like dearborn, michigan, for example, you have some conservative muslims turning up at school boards to protest alongside them. how complicated does that make this whole issue? >> well, mehdi, the whole thing is complicated, right? there are -- there is not, right now, the kind of intersectional
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recognition that an attack on any of us is an attack on all of us. but, frankly, this is partly because of the understanding of racism and islamophobia and homophobia, it has not been framed by our mainstream media and politicians as actually won in the same fight. we cannot have a democracy when some people are less than, when some people can be silenced, when some people can be excluded. all of us have to learn this. you know that old saying that first they came after one group and i didn't say anything. and they came after another group and i didn't say anything. when they came after me, there was nobody left. we've got to learn that that's what the story of this country is as well. once and for all, we've got to fight the divide and conquer -- that the right always plays because that's how they win. >> last question, 30 seconds left. are you optimistic you can win this fight? >> i'm optimistic that we can win this fight. we came out of a history in which reconstruction was overturned. we came out of history in which
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divisive concepts were attacked to al abolition and segregation. the fact that i'm sitting here on this show shows we can overcome when we know what the obstacles are, that we have to overcome. >> kimberly crenshaw, on that note, thank you so much for your time. always a pleasure. >> always. >> up next, it's a top economic concern for most voters. there's a lot of misinformation going around about inflation. the causes of inflation. we want to set the record straight before you cast your ballot. to not go away. o away that's a huge jug of detergent. yeah, isn't it a bargain? you know that bargain detergent is 85% water, right? really? it's this much water! so, i'm just paying for watery soap? that's why i use tide pods. they're super concentrated, so... i'm paying for clean, not water! bingo. don't pay for water. pay for clean. it's got to be tide pods.
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it is the all too real specter looming over every poll, every campaign stump speech, every american's kitchen table in these last few weeks before the midterms. in fact, it's been consistently ranked as the top concern for likely voters for months. and yet, on the one hand, you have defensive democrats saying it's a global issue.
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it's all the fault of the pandemic and supply chain, the war in ukraine. which is only half true. republicans claiming, without lower gas prices, if we just drilled, baby, drilled, which is almost completely untrue. there is one obvious way for democrats to defend themselves, to go on the offensive and blame the real villains of this inflationary story. villains who, right now, are getting a complete pass because, yes, rising food and energy costs have pushed inflation to the highest rate for for more than 40 years, as we are told at nausea. you know what's at its highest rate for more than 70 years? corporate profits. yes. as average americans have watched inflationary forces play pac-man with their wages, many of this countries largest companies and their shareholders have been reveling in profit margins that have not been this huge since december 1950. and yes, i truly mean reveling. take the ceo of iron mountain data storage, william -- , back at some timber reported
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the intercept, he told ministry investors inflation had so fat and his company's bottom line that he's been doing a, quote, inflation dance. a kind of sociopathic prayer ritual of sorts, some might say. i must emphasize that this was not a one-off -- mr. meanie invoked native american culture to illustrate what some might say is his inglis greet, saying he does his dance and praise for inflation every day because every point expands our margins. every point of inflation. as much as i would love to continue harping on about him and the cosmic irony of his last name, this goes so far beyond anyone ceo in one industry. one analysis by the guardian found that net profits search by a median 49% between 2020 and 2024 -- 22. in one, case by as much as 100 11,000%. keep in mind that's occurring as u.s. media wages increased by only won by 6% over the same
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period. the little old guys, are getting snookered at every turn by the profiteers and the price gouging. take gas prices. the big energy companies are laughing all the way to the bank right now. bp secured its biggest windfall in 40 years last quarter with 8.5 billion dollars in profit. exxonmobil managed to do one better, reaping some 17.9 billion dollars in its fattest ever quarterly profit. take food prices. america's four biggest meat processors have used in their monopoly to triple their triple their margins since 2020. take online shopping as well. inflation is not hurting the almighty amazon. on the contrary, folks, it saw a 333% increase in profit between 2020 and earlier this year. these are easy targets, democrats. to be fair, the president has made this point from time to time. listen. >> they pay their bills, and some corporate executives are
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on earnings calls with investors on wall street, sharing their record profits. explain how they are using this inflation to cover the rise of prices far beyond and what they need to do to cover their costs. >> it's not enough to just occasionally mentioned in passing. there has to be across the board, all hands on deck, 24/7 democratic party campaign that identifies price gouging and corporate profiteering as one of the key drivers of inflation in this country. you have to lay it out for the voters. because the facts are on your side. >> according to this chart, what is the biggest driver of inflation during the pandemic? and that blew -- the dark blue is the recent period. >> it would be corporate profits. >> what is that percentage? >> it is 54%. that number does stay that level high if he update that number two more recent numbers as well. >> over half of the increased prices people are paying are
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coming from increases in corporate profits. >> yes. the unit price index has reflected corporate profits as opposed to other costs. >> how does that compare to historically other periods of inflation, over other periods of economic time? >> as reflected there, and in other analysis, it's significantly higher in this recovery. 11.5%. >> what does it take? >> 53%. >> take a look at that graphic. more than half of the increase and prices driven by corporate profits, less than 10% driven by labor costs. that was democratic congresswoman katie porter you saw there with that graph, who recognizes that in politics, you need a villain. you need a bad guy to point out. republicans understand this. why can't democrats, as a whole, why can't they call for windfall attacks on the john hours profits of big oil or big pharma? even conservatives in the uk, in between swapping out prime
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ministers every month, say they are open to a windfall tax on utility companies. so why not hear? going forward, it should be considered political malpractice for democrats to allow any conversation about inflation that's not centered on the role of corporate profiteering. one, it has the advantage of being a vote winner. and number two, it has the advantage of being true. coming up at the top of the hour with a midway i.d., evan mcmullin on his independent bid to take down election denier trump darling likely. that is tonight at nine eastern on msnbc. after the break, came in and i will discuss the curious f differences between u.s. and uk politics at the moment. stay tuned. ed by asking your healthcare provider if an oral treatment is right for you. oral treatments can be taken at home and must be taken within 5 days from when symptoms first appear. if you have symptoms of covid-19,
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be right back hair night next sunday. you can find the show on msnbc hub on peacock. new episodes of the mehdi hassan show are posted every evening, monday through thursday. now it's time to hand it over to aim mohyeldin. amen, i'm not sure how close you've been following -- this 45 days in office. she was outlasted by a lattice, on a live stream. with my british hat on, it's rather embarrassing. the political chaos on the uk, the whole world is watching. but with miami --
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strange way you have a conservative prime minister who messed up the economy a disastrously or, her pool ratings collapse. and their own conservative party got rid of her. that would never happen here, what? it no matter what trump does, his party back some, his poll ratings hold up, there's no easy mechanism to get rid of him. liz truss is gone, ayman, and she didn't even threaten journalists with prison right. not like donald trump did just last night, have a listen. >> and you say, who is the leader of national security. and they say, we won't tell you. you say, you're going to jail. and when this person realizes that he is going to be the bride of another prisoner very shortly. [laughs] he will say, i very much like to tell you exactly who that leaker was, it's billed george, he's the leaker. and we got him. >> conservatives and other western democracies like the uk
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are still connected to reality, ayman, we ours are not are there? >> they're not even anywhere close to reality. it's clear that the american republican party has become a cult, that worships at the feet of one demagogue, donald trump. not only has his party on refused to condemn, ostracize him like the british conservative party. from leaving their party. they've embraced him and everything that he represents. in fact, [speaking french] it's opposite to what we're seeing in the uk here. amongst our republicans, those that have spoken out against him have either been pushed aside like liz cheney, or they become cowards by embracing him, again, even when he's insulted them like lindsey graham, mitch mcconnell, kevin mccarthy going down to mar-a-lago after january the six, to kiss the ring. you know british politics way better than i do, i do need to say there's another lesson you forgot to mention about maga
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republicans that could've learned from liz truss at her predecessor, boris johnson. when you lose power, whether by the voters or your own party, in a democracy, you exit the stage, that stage a violent coup against the democracy. >> exactly. people say oh boris is the british trump. as you say, no, he didn't launch an insurrection. one thing i would say, last thing, the only true thing donald trump has ever said in his life is that i could shoot someone in the middle of the street and not lose a single voter. and that is proven to be true in many ways, sadly, for this country. >> true and sad at the same time. you're right. it's great to see you as always. excellent show, enjoy the rest of your evening of. coming up on him in, holding january six republicans accountable. independent set evan mcmullin joins me live on his bid to take down gop darling and trump acolyte mike lee. plus, come on democrats, the left
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