welcome back to "morning joe," a live shot of los angeles this morning. the sun is yet to come up. it is 6:00 a.m. on the west coast, 9:00 a.m. on the east coast. jonathan lemire and elise jordan

are back with us. our top story, the fbi found documents containing classified information on iran and china. >> taking it up a notch or two, the most intel experts and legal experts. >> i say taking it to the top at former president donald trump's mar-a-lago home. this is according to two people familiar with the matter saying the first were found at mar-a-lago during the fbi's search of the property in august. sources tell "the post" that if shared with others, such information could expose intelligence gathering methods that the u.s. wants to keep hidden from the world. at least one document reportedly describes iran's missile program, while others describe highly sensitive intelligence work aimed at china. the documents are considered to be among the most sensitive the fbi has recovered from trump's possession to date.

experts tell "the post," unauthorized disclosures of such documents could pose several risks including potentially endangering people aiding u.s. intelligence, collect methods could be compromised, and other countries or u.s. adversaries could retaliate against the u.s. for actions it has taken in secret. trump has denied any wrongdoing in having the documents at mar-a-lago. but our next guest has revealed that trump admitted back in january of 2020 he knew at least some of those documents were classified. it's part of new audio that journalist bob woodward is releasing of his interviews with the former president. woodward says trump showed him the letters from north korean leader kim jong-un after urging woodward to, quote, treat them with respect, trump warned, quote, and don't say i gave them to you, okay? a month later woodward pressed trump in a phone call to let him

also see the letters that trump wrote to kim. trump responded, "oh, those are so top secret." >> associate editor of "the washington post" bob woodward joins us now. his new audio book titled "the trump tapes: bob woodward's 20 interviews with president donald trump" goes on sale tomorrow. bob, this is a first for you. why so important to release these audiotapes? >> we have bob's -- his video shot just froze but we'll get him back. i can answer that question by reading from a new piece that bob put out explaining why he put the interviews out. and this is what it says. "the piece is entitled the trump tapes: 20 interviews that show why he is an unparalleled danger," and bob writes in part, "in more than 50 years of

reporting, i have never disclosed the raw interviews or full transcripts of my work. but after listening again to the 20 interviews i conducted with president donald trump during his last year as chief executive, i've decided to take the unusual step of releasing them. i was struck by how trump pounded in my ears in a way the printed page cannot capture. in their totality, these interviews offer an unvarnished portrait of trump. you hear trump in his own words, in his own voice during one of the most consequential years in american history. amid trump's first impeachment, the coronavirus pandemic, and large racial justice protests." the trump tapes leaves no doubt that after four years in the presidency trump has learned where the levers of power are and full control means installing absolute loyalists in key cabinet and white house

posts." >> so, while we're working to play -- to get bob's shot back, let's play a clip. this one is from december 5th, 2019, when bob woodward asked donald trump if he had changed the republican party. take a listen. >> can i ask a political question? >> sure. >> and that is, looking at this through the lens of a reporter who wants to look at the whole story, you've changed the republican party. you realize that? >> 95% approval rating. nobody's ever been at -- you know, ronald reagan was 87. he was -- >> okay. is this a movement? >> no. that i can't tell you. i can tell you -- >> what do you think? >> it's the party of strength and common sense, both. you know? >> and who's the heir? >> i don't say -- i'll tell you what -- the heir will have to be determined. that's to be determined. but i -- okay, as an example,

the republican party has always been known for disloyalty to each other. they always broke up. i will say this, and this isn't a threat, because if it's not a threat. but if they went against me, they'd all their election. even if they had 95% of the vote. >> wow. >> bob woodward, i understand we have you up. talk about the decision to release these audiotapes and why it's so important for americans to hear trump in his own voice. >> you know, the focus here is i went back, joe, and listened to these earlier in the year, does trump understand the presidency, the duties and responsibilities of the presidency? and discovered in my reporting that he was warned, for example, about the virus, january 28th, and he covered it up.

he kept saying, oh, i'm trying to play it down because i don't want to panic people. all of us had discussed for years the presidency is a lot about self, but you've got to involve others in the process. now, you see this new crisis with kim jong-un. i mean, what shows in the audio, and it so offends the responsibility of the president, he will say, well, even though the cia says kim jong-un, the north korean leader, is really gone, trump says, oh, he's smart, he's smart. how do you know? only i know. well, come on. trust your instincts. he is driven by his instincts.

>> so, in this clip from may 22nd, 2020, bob asks donald trump about the possibility of a contested election. take a listen. >> well, we're going into the election. everyone keeps asking, suppose it's a close election, and it's contested. what are you going to do? everyone says trump is going to stay in the white house if it's contested. have you thought -- >> well, i'm not -- i -- yoent even want to comment on that, bob, at this time. bob, i have to run. i'll talk to you later on tonight. >> he doesn't want to answer that question, and yet he'd been working since summer -- i remember chris christie telling me that trump took him aside halfway in late spring, i think he said it was of 2020, already saying that if he lost he was going to contest the election. and you asked him that question around the same time, and he refused to at least admit it to

you publicly. i think bob's frozen again. jonathan lemire, it was all very calculated, and it's pretty fascinating that of all the things that donald trump would admit to bob woodward, that was one he kept quiet, yet everybody around donald trump was saying that he began calculating very early on in 2020 on what he could do to make an excuse for losing the election to biden, which he feared covid was going to be responsible for making him lose. >> yeah. i interviewed the former president many times. he's usually not shy, retd sent to say anything, even if he thinks it will be controversial. so it is striking he quickly dodged that question. we now know, joe, this has been in the works for quite some time, that even as early as spring, there were early plans under way to contest the election, some within the fair grounds of legal

challenges, and of course as the year went on we realized that game a far cry what from what he would actually end up doing. he planted a seed of doubt about mail-in ballots in particular. he seized on that idea that the deep state would rig the results against him. he pushed it day after day, rallies across the country, to his supporters, amplified by the conservative media. and we saw the nation, republicans, many republicans, whipped into a frenzy at the election because they went along with this false claims of voter fraud culminating in violence on january 6th. but we're still very much living with it now. i think these audio recordings are so powerful because it also hits the power of repetition. that's how trump works. he talks over you, tries to bully and badger you, make his point, whether to a report ore a rally crowd, eventually believing he can convince you of his truth even if it's a complete lie. >> and this clip from december 13th, 2019, president trump

questions why the u.s. continues to protect south korea. take a listen. >> i always ask the one question, why are we defending south korea? see, i have that. why are we doing this? and i said to south korea -- i told you about the $500 million, right? >> yes. >> they're paying $500 million more. it took me one day. i said, we're defending you, and we're losing a fortune. and you're paying the same thing for 30 years, which is nothing. you pay almost nothing. you've got to pay. and they agreed to $500 million. now i'm asking for billions more. but i say, you know, it's a rich country pitch say, so we're didding you, we're allowing you to exist. why are we doing that? why do we care? we're 8,500 miles away. why do we care? why do we have our 32,000 soldiers over there, willing to fight for you? and you're not paying us? why?

>> the stupidity. i don't know if it's stupidity actually. more malevolent, because obviously he loves dictators. he talks about his love letters with kim jong-un, one of the most brutal dictators on the planet who's been threatening our allies with nuclear war for quite some time. it's so condescending. why do we care? you wouldn't exist without us. on and on. like how we talked about nato. it's so abhorrent, i sit back and wonder who are these people who claim they used to be supporters of ronald reagan and sort of the margaret thatcher wing of conservative politics who now actually have fully embarrassed trump's, like, american first nonsense, sort of lindbergh, charles lindbergh nonsense and loves dictators? like loves putin. praises his invasion of ukraine.

praises kim jong-un. i mean, i'm not going to ask who is this guy? we know who this guy is. who are these so-called conservatives that we used to know who completely sold out to a guy who prefers authoritarian leaders to democratically elected leaders? >> well, joe, they don't believe it. and you and i both know that most of them don't believe what they parrot when it comes to parroting anything that donald trump says on foreign policy because that, you know, just whatever was coming out of his mouth -- i remember different presidents and scholars debate, what's their brand policy? it's not that robust. and, you know, brand strategy with trump is more like getting from point a to point b and him tying his shoe laces. these tapes, i'm so excited to hear the full interviews just because listening to woodward, too, is such a master class in

how to interview. and trump certainly just felt so empowered to share his moronic world view and just childish -- i don't even want to say childish -- that's an insult to children, but just naivete when it comes to our american geopolitical posture in asia. >> so, bob's new audio book is on sale tomorrow, 20 interviews we thought were much better heard than -- you know, they jump off the page differently. he just thought hearing these things was worth the american people hearing and really taking them in. we turn to breaking news overseas where moments ago we found out who the next british prime minister will be. let's bring in nbc news foreign correspondent molly hunter.

>> reporter: it is richie sunak as he accepted and thought might happen over the weekend. it has been a dramatic few days. we saw yesterday former prime minister boris johnson dropping out of a race he never officially entered. rishi will be the first nonwhite prime minister to walk in to 10 downing. just minutes ago we saw a tweet from the other contestant. i'll read this. there was no -- we just saw her concession tweet, and that is how we knew that rishi sunak gets the top job. she says, "our party is our membership, whether we are elected representative, activists, fund-raisers, supporters, we all have a stake in who our leader is. as a result, we have chosen our next prime minister. this decision is a historic one and shows once again the diversity and talent of our party. rishi has my full support." the deadline was 2:00.

over the last several days since liz truss stepped down, it has been a race to 100 backers to get on this short list before it went to a potential runoff among conservative party members. the contenders needed 100 backers. penny morgan's camp claimed she had more than 90 backers. we have not seen those 90 numbers. over the weekend, boris johnson also claimed he had 102 backers. those names have also not been public. so it looks like rishi sunak will be asked to form a government very, very soon. >> all right. nbc's molly hunter live in london, thank you so much. mika, the conservatives could have saved themselves a whole lot of trouble by going with soon-to-be prime minister sunak before they selected liz truss because he actually warned them. >> right. >> that going in her direction would be a disaster for economy, would be a disaster for the torrys. and it was. >> what a mess. >> but now they've moved to him.

>> we shall see. republican senate minority leader mitch mcconnell is calling for more military aid to ukraine as the war reaches its eighth month. in contrast to recent statements from gop house minority leader kevin mccarthy. in a statement on friday, mcconnell vowed to continue sending relief to ukraine even if the gop takes the senate next month. last week, mccarthy said the u.s. should not issue a blank check for further ukraine funding, prompting some criticism from within his own party as well as from the white house. mcconnell's statement reads in part, "a republican majority in the senate will focus its oversight on ensuring timely delivery of needed weapons and greater allied assistance to ukraine." nbc news foreign correspondent matt bradley has the latest on the war. >> reporter: today nuclear alarms ringing around the world after moscow accused ukraine of

planning a phony attack with a dirty bomb, a kind of small nuclear weapon, blaming it on russia. the white house rejecting the claim, calling it a pretext for moscow's own escalation. but a deeper sort of darkness has settled over ukraine after a fresh barrage of russian missiles targeted the country's electricity network, leaving about 1.5 million people without power. the head of ukraine's state energy company told him his engineers are in the firing line. five have been killed since the start of the war. >> they are losing the fight on the battlefield, so they have only this means of terror to try to force us to sit down and start negotiations. >> reporter: many ukraines are rushing to buy up generators to light and heat their homes. this is where the generators are supposed to be and there's only two left. some shoppers left empty-handed but are determined to survive the coming winter.

will you surrender because you're cold? never, we'll never surrender, he told me. before we surrender, putin will die like a dog. this couple fled from mario pole six months ago and are once again living without power. "this will have the exact opposite effect. putin just doesn't understand how nationalistic we'll be now." most ukrainians are prepared to persevere, defiant even in darkness. >> matt bradley with that report. coming up, a string of recent videos have shown people staking out drop boxes in arizona. could it actually be nevada that leads the way in election chaos? we'll explain that. also ahead, a new poll shows latinos in florida support governor ron desantis by a wide margin, including his decision to traffic migrants from texas to martha's vineyard. that's straight ahead when "morning joe" returns.

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23 past the hour. welcome back to "morning joe." we're taking a look at new polling this morning that is shedding light on how hispanic florida voters view the race for governor with a majority siding with republican incumbent ron desantis. notably, the majority of respondens born outside the united states agreed with move by desantis last month to fly nearly 50 venezuelan migrants from san antonio to martha's vineyard in response to president joe biden's border policies. >> let's bring in nbc news senior national political reporter mark caputo. >> also with us democratic consultant. >> eye-popping numbers for the uninitiated but i was looking back at an nbc news story after the 2020 election, 55% of cuban

americans voted for donald trump in 2020, 30% of puerto ricans voted for donald trump in 2020 in the state of florida, and 48% of other latinos, the way nbc put it, also voted for donald trump. he overperformed. looks like those trend lines continue for ron desantis. >> just ron desantis himself in 2018 election, his first election as governor that he won statewide, he lost latinos by ten points. the mason/dixon survey for telemundo showed he's winning hispanic voters by as many as seven percentage points. it's been a big flip. part of this has just been the general economic trends. things are bad for a lot of people. inflation is bad for a lot people. and ron desantis has done a very good job hanging that on joe

biden, president biden's neck and democrats' neck. he's got much more money than charlie crist, has advertised much more on conventional media, english-language media, and spanish-language media. you put everything together, and these are really good numbers for desantis. if a republican wins or ties with hispanics statewide in florida, they genuine win the race, it's lights out for the democrat. it's difficult to see, if these numbers hold, how charlie crist manages to eke out a win. >> it is lights out if a republican overperforms with hispanics in miami-dade. we saw wit jeb bush running for governor and george w. bush in '04. i think bush w. got something like 44%, 45% of hispanics nationwide. so talk about your insights from this poll. what jumps out at you?

>> well, joe, florida is a state you know well. just think ten years ago in 2012, obama wins florida back-to-back elections, 2008, 2012, solely on the strength of his performance with hispanic voters, including getting almost half of the cuban vote. two years later, charlie crist wins the cuban vote in the governor's race of 2014, but these are now back to the future numbers. the republicans in florida have erased all of the progress that democrats made ten years ago, and this is why now we may now be looking on november 8th florida's move from the ultimate battleground state to a solid red republican state. it's because these hispanic voters have gone in the other direction. >> okay. so what is it that democrats can still do or haven't done that has added to this trend? >> mika, you know, it's really a case of demolition by neglect here in florida.

for whatever reason, despite the democrats have come close in the last several cycles, they haven't made the type of investments in a permanent campaign infrastructure in the state of florida and trying to rebrand the democratic party, especially after the damage that the socialist frame that the republicans charged with democrats with in 2018 and 2020 kind of hung in there unanswered. as a result of that, i think the only take-away, mika, we can make is that right now the democrats are saying, look, florida too much of a pain in the rear to compete there, we'll put our money in other states and try and take a pathway there. let's leave florida to the republicans. and i think that's what we're looking at now. >> marc, let's touch on a couple of those points. the democratic party, one democrat after another will tell you off the record that the democratic party's infrastructure is extraordinarily weak in the state of florida, it's just collapsed over the past five, ten years. but there is another line that

nbc story that talked about the 2020 election, one hispanic leader was asked why did donald trump do so well in florida? and the answer, he showed up. >> yes. >> they obsessed on hispanic issues, obsessed on going there, and did things the democrats for some reason just didn't do. >> that's a good point. he did show up. did he deliver? not really. in fact, joe biden has delivered quite a bit for various latino communities in florida. but his chief white house correspondent white house has not done a good job or a job at all in coordinating with local democrats. for instance, his policies on venezuela, protected status for venezuelans, that got approved. that was important for the community. they didn't communicate that here. another thing in 2020 that we notice in miami-dade, and that's where donald trump went from losing by 29 points, 29

percentage points in 2016 to 7 percentage points in 2020. it was a huge gain. it was almost all on the back of hispanic voters or because of hispanic voters flocking to him. not only did he show up but talked of their language. there was more of a blue-collar, working-class appeal. there was culture war they were able to wage republicans had done effectively. another important thing we don't talk a lot about is patriotism. one of the things a colleague of mine pointed out in 2020, hialeah, the most hispanic community in miami-dade county, very cuban and republican, she saw american flags everywhere coupled with trump flags. you don't see that level of expressed patriotism from democrats, and republicans were very good at advertising that, because to the degree that immigration matters to people who are hispanic or latino voters and to the degree in which they are immigrants, children of immigrants or from immigrant families, a lot of people, if not all of them,

immigrate to the united states to participate in the american dream, to talk about the greatness of america. and one of the things that republicans have done a very good job of is talk about this is important to us, the american dream is still alive and well and you can achieve it. i'll let people argue whether that's fair or not. but the reality is they talk about it and democrats don't talk about it as much. and the result, the proof is in the pudding. >> ferdinand, i'll give you the final word. >> look, i mean, i think while this is a tough poll for democrats in florida, we also have to understand the florida hispanic electorate is an outlier. when you look at the rest of the country, democrats are still on very solid ground with hispanic voters, particularly in the american southwest. look at states like arizona, nevada, colorado, the reason democrats are winning in those states is because the hispanic voters there are overwhelmingly backing them. the question is, if democrats want to get florida's 30 electoral votes back, they have to do the groundwork. right now, still no signs of that in florida. >> marc caputo and ferdinand

amandi, thank you very much for joining us this morning. we appreciate it. up next, health officials are concerned we are headed to a very difficult flu season. did you get your flu shot? did you get your flu shot? that reporting is ahead. and a closer look at nevada, where "washington post's" dana milbank explains how election deniers are preparing to sabotage the midterms when "morning joe" returns. ever ass. tony, the new outlaw's got double pepper jack and juicy steak. let's get some more analysis on that, chuck. mmm. pepper jack. tender steak. very insightful, guys. the new subway series. what's your pick? when moderate to severe ulcerative colitis persists... put it in check with rinvoq, a once-daily pill. when uc got unpredictable,... i got rapid symptom relief with rinvoq. check. when uc held me back... i got lasting, steroid-free remission with rinvoq. check. and when uc got the upper hand... rinvoq helped visibly repair the colon lining.

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so, they can have more success tomorrow. ♪ one thing leads to another ♪ 36 past the hour. a live look at dallas. one month into the fall season and nationwide flu cases are soaring, especially among children, with officials warning that this season could be dangerous and deadly. nbc's blayne alexander has more. >> reporter: after two years of pandemic precautions, this morning flu season is back with a dangerous vengeance, overwhelming hospitals and stretching medical resources. >> you're seeing a tidal wave sweeping across this country right now. >> reporter: in northern virginia, one high school canceled all weekend activities after nearly half the student body came down with flu like symptoms. health officials are working to determine why roughly 1,000

students called out sick. the school paper suggests a recent crowded school dance could have been a superspreader event. across a number of states, particularly in the south, confirmed flu cases are higher than usual for this early in the season. officials are urging people to gets their flu vaccines early, before the end of october. experts are predicting a rough few months ahead. >> it could be a really bad harbinger of the winter if that's also combined with a covid-19 surge. >> reporter: young children have also been hit especially hard by another virus, the culprit, a respiratory illness known as rsv. in the last two weeks, cases have tripled, surpassing last year's peak. >> because of the last two years with stay at home and a lot of virtual activities, many children had not been exposed, leaving our youngest ones, those under the age of 2, with the highest vulnerability. >> reporter: across the country, pediatric hospital beds are nearing capacity. at connecticut children's hospital, employees are using temporary units to house sick

patients. >> this is unprecedented. we've never seen this before. it's creating challenges. >> reporter: george's parents knew something was wrong when they noticed their 4-month-old daughter struggling to breathe. >> her chest was doing a lot of up and down, rapid movements. >> reporter: doctors quickly diagnosed her with rsv. she spent four days in the hospital. >> we were definitely terrified, especially when we saw that she needed to go on oxygen and have the tubes in her nose. >> reporter: the rise in rsv and an increase in covid cases and now the flu have experts feeling a tripledemic could be on the horizon. >> blayne alexander with that report. back to politics and republicans apparently giving up on new hampshire. the senate leadership fund, which is aligned with senate gop leader mitch mcconnell, is pulling out of the state. the pac is moving its remaining tv and spending from new

hampshire, toting more than $5.5 million, to help republican candidates in other states ahead of the midterms. republicans hoped they could defeat maggie hassan in november, but their chances to win the seat took a hit when retired brigadier general done bolduc won the republican nomination. he's repeatedly pushed former president donald trump's lies about the 2020 election being stolen and has made several far-right and controversial comments. republicans are optimistic about their chances of picking up a senate seat in nevada, where republicans haven't won a senate race in a decade. rnc chair ron mcdaniel and senate gop campaign chair rick scott are crediting early investments for their rising prospects. after campaigning for former state attorney general adam laxalt on saturday, mcdaniel and

scott talked to nbc news about how they believe pouring money into battlegrounds earlier in the campaign helped define democrats like laxalt's opponent, senator catherine cortez masto, who has for weeks failed to pull ahead of laxalt in polling in her race for re-election. republicans have centered their message on the economy and crime, while democrats have focused on protecting abortion access. joining us now, columnist for "the washington post," dana milbank. dana, thanks for joining us. we appreciate it. your latest op-ed for "the washington post" is entitled "in nevada, election deniers prepare to sabotage the midterms." you write in part, "if the midterm elections derate into chaos in a couple of weeks, a very real pocket, then nech nef is poised to lead the way. indeed, the chaos here has already begun. the election supervisors in 10 of the state's 17 counties have already quit, been forced out or

announced their departures. lower-level election workers have quit in the face of consistent abuse. the state's election staff has lost 8 of its 12 employees. officials expect the eventual losers of several contests, perhaps a dozen, to contest the results, and they are bracing for the possibility that conspiracy-minded county commissioners might refuse to certify the results as several threatened in 2020. this raises the likelihood that the state legislature could step in and throw out the results in any contested state election, from assembly up to governor, and install the candidate of their choice -- something that is allowed under nevada law. georgia has had mass challenges to voter registrations. florida has a new police force that has engaged in voter intimidation, michigan is battling rogue election worker, and many states have experienced

harassment of election officials, restrictions on voting drop boxes, and more." so, dana, take us through this. i mean, what are democrats up against when you have disinformation flying around and actually turning into policy? >> yeah. i mean, the interesting thing to note here is it's not necessarily going to be fraud. that's not what we're talking about here. it's not sort of the mirror image of the big lie. it's chaos. what i'm seeing in nevada is -- you know, first of all you have all these officials missing from their posts. you've got around reno, they've already sent out a sample ballot laced with errors. you have four counties going in some format towards hand counting of ballots, towards using paper ballots, tossing out the machines, but they're doing it in such a quick, haphazard way, they're still making up the rules on the fly. so there's a real danger that

they won't be able to make their statutory deadlines. but it's virtually certain there's going to be a lot of chaos on election night and in the days that follow. that will feed doubts about the outcome of the election. so it's the combination of deliberately injecting chaos into this system and then what might happen if, you know, god forbid a democrat appears to have won a campaign there. you can see all sorts of mayhem unleashed. so even if it's unintentional, just the fact that they're still making up procedures for elections even though erl lir voting has already begun, it tells you that something is going to go badly wrong. >> in terms of the straight politics of this, when you're sticking to facts, have democrats also themselves, have they overfocused on abortion? i don't think you can overfocus on it. but not emphasizing other issues as well? >> you know, that's possible, mika, but the democrats have a

bit of a dilemma because when they have come out and spoken about threats to democracy, people understand that in the abstract, but it's not what's driving people to the polls necessarily. it's not necessarily as powerful for democrats as abortion for republicans as the economy and inflation. so i think most voters are totally unaware of this. it's unclear if democrats had been, you know, running ads about election chaos, would that actually bring anybody out. so i think it's very much under the radar, and, you know, it's a way that can sneak up on people in nevada and can sneak up in a lot of other states. people had regarded it as a theoretical threat. but i wrote the column because it's not theoretical, it's already here. the chaos has already begun. it's a question of how much. >> dana, let's talk about the nevada senate race a little bit where we had steven kornacki on earlier, this is a state that republicans feel the best about as a possible pickup.

>> right. >> election denier on the ballot for the gop. it's also a test of harry reed's political machine, the former senate majority leader no longer with us, but he was able to knit together a coalition that could squeak out victories in states that tend to be red sometimes. >> right. >> where's this one going? give us your analysis. >> i talked with senator cortez masto and attended one of her events out there as well. you know, she won as you noted in a squeaker six years ago, and that's when harry reed's machine was fully up and operational. she's i think without question the most vulnerable democratic incumbent. polls have been very tight. you know, it's difficult to say because i'm not terribly sure how reliable the polls are right now because it's all going to hinge on turnout. because it's very likely to be a very close election, this will feed into the chaos we have been talking about. hard to imagine how this sort of

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love, to care, to cry. we need that, all of us. that indescribable feeling we get when the lights begin to dim. and we go somewhere we've never been before. not just entertained but somehow we born, together. dozen elling images on a huge silver screen, sound that i can feel, somehow heartbreak feels good in a place like this. our heroes feel like the best part of us. and stories feel perfect and powerful. because here we are. >> that's where we go to the movies. >> where we go to the movies? what is the last time you did that? that is the largest movie theater in the world. even before they were shut down due to covid, movie theaters,

both large and small, were struggling to fill the seats as consumers opt to stay home and watch on streaming networks. now, one new jersey production company is trying to preserve and rekindle the magic of being in your hometown theater and watching a film on the big screen. joining us now, film producer luke parker bowles. an initiative that rescues struggling small town movie theaters. >> and if the last name sounds familiar, he is related to tommy parker bowles. is that right? >> no, different one. >> the queen consort. >> so tell us about this effort to save -- do you think it's possible to save the feeling of a classic movie theater experience? >> yeah, i do. and i think it's interesting because you and your colleagues a few weeks ago were talking

about the dearth of movie theaters and how particularly in connecticut, the playhouse closed down. it is actually a movie theater we're renovating. the fact is we have all become very local in our existence. there are all of these amazing, beautiful theaters on main streets where they are the heart and soul of the community. in montclair, the only light that is showing is the cold stone creamery. if that's a reflection of a community, then we're in serious trouble. we have taken the places on main street and revitalize them. not having my daughter hanging out in the parking lot of cvs. instead, she is hanging out in these movie theaters. it's an experience more than

it's a movie theater, we say at cinema labs. >> yeah. >> because we have add add alcohol to it, a bar, to most of them. . we call it the third space. >> i like it! >> let me just say, just for the record, jonathan lemire added alcohol going to movies a very long time ago. >> that's because he brings it in a bag. he's talking about it being served. as part of the experience. >> i will say what's so important about -- for me at least, growing up i saw movies with my dad. a lot of my memories were with my dad. my mom was there, but my dad is usually the one that talked too loud. whether it "star wars", e.t.,

the natural. >> grease. >> i didn't see that one with my dad. >> that's the experience i had at new canaan watching "lord of the rings". it's great what you are doing there. but will it work? >> it will. it seems to be working. weir at were 78% at the moment, numbers than we were pre-covid. sorry. we have bigger seats, more space. we have taken seats out. we have added different elements. so you can actually go in and not feel like you're in a generic -- i won't say the name

of the company, but you showed one at the beginning. we don't have that. i would allude to it being a public experience. that local place that you feel comfortable going to. you can go for a drink or for a movie. it doesn't really matter. you know you're safe. you know you can leave your kids there. the general manager knows your name, your kids's names. and i think that's really, really important. i don't think that exists right now. and the response to it, hundreds of movie theaters have been in touch. this is the format going forward. amcs will shrink and become

smaller. driving 15 minutes on a highway to go and see a movie or being able to walk down the street, elm street, let's say, in new a than are two different propositions. >> i suggest you take me to the new canaan playhouse. >> we'll do it. and we'll let lemire come along too. >> lemire? okay. ceo of cinemalab luke parker bowles. >> next year marks the 100th anniversary of the playhouse. so we will do big, big things to mark that. and in massachusetts and many more to come. you should be hearing hopefully a lot more about cinemalab in the future. >> okay, luke. thank you so much. >> we will be there. >> that does it for us this morning. jose diaz-balart picks up msnbc

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