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thomas putting the subpoena for lindsey graham on ice for now. new reaction from capitol hill, we want to start with white house correspondent mark memoli, and ali vitali and steve kornacki at the big board. we've seen the president out with what you can call a presidential pep talk, trying to get everybody rolling in the same direction, ahead of election day, now just 15 days away, even as steve will talk through, some of the environment is changing for democrats, who have seen new polling showing that the anger around abortion, that we saw after dobbs has started to recede. talk us through how the president is navigating this. >> that's right. the environment is changing fast. the president spoke to some of the whiplash a lot of people are seeing as polls go up and down, the president even saying he's not sure even pollsters are confident in their own numbers at this point. so what is the president doing? 15 days to go, until election day, a lot of people already voting in fact, he went to the

dnc headquarters, think of it as the engine room, the headquarters of a lot of the get out the vote efforts that democrats are engaged in at the moment and i thought the message was so interesting, because a lot of folks especially on the democratic side of the aisle thought that the roe v. wade decision, the dobbs decision overturning the protections for abortion would be sort of the key factor in giving democrats a real fighting chance, in midterm elections, when they're typically facing head winds. when you look at what the president's schedule has been and what the message has been consistently, it is almost entirely been about the economic message, trying to talk about the accomplishments of the administration, and also as we saw today, really increasingly sharpening the contrast with warnings what he said republicans would do if they're given power. let's listen to part of that message from the president today. >> it's a choice between two vastly different visions for america. we, the democrats, are the ones that are fiscally responsible. let's get that straight now, okay? we're investing in all of

america. reducing every day costs while also lowering the deficit at the same time. republicans are fiscally reckless, pushing tax cuts for the wealthy that are not paid for and exploiting the deficit that is making inflation worse. >> we heard sox strongest rhetoric to date from the president today about a fight that really is looming in the next year, if republicans do take back control of at least the house, if not both chambers of congress, and it has to do with the debt ceiling and some of the spending fights that we can expect republicans really to wage. the president, you heard him there, saying democrats have been the fiscally responsible party, they have, under his watch, he pointed out, the deficit has been cut in half, and republicans though are already sending the signal that they want to insist on more spending cuts in the year ahead. the president warning that if republicans want to risk a debt ceiling fight, that would be the worst thing for this economy, really trying to put a warning signal out now, and not sure if the voters are necessarily going to hear that, and thinking too

much down the road in terms of the legislative battle but thanksgiving i think the president had in front of mind today. >> thank you very much. >> and ali, let's me go to you in florida. in a couple of hours, we will see the first and only debate in a race that a lot of people are looking at for governor this year, a and it is not because it is necessarily uber, uber competitive. you have governor desantis down in florida with a lead over former governor charlie crist and what is interesting is the political dynamic that this previews if you will beyond election day. talk to us about what folks are saying on the ground and what you can expect. >> reporter: you're right to point out that the polling is not super tight. you saw it on the screen. and the trend line tells a story, that this is really desantis's re-election race to lose. but what is fascinating to me, as someone who covered his 2018 gubernatorial race, and is now looking at how he is running in 2022, it is in 2018, he rose through that republican primary and ultimately to the governor's mansion here on president trump's coat tails. modeling himself in the image of the former president who was endorsing him and helping him

every step of the way. you'll remember that one advertisement he did where he was reading a bedtime story to his kid about mr. trump firing someone, and that was an ad that went viral at the time. you contrast it with what he is doing now which is telling a more humanizing story about his family, about who he is, and as an independent governor himself, and then also trying to tout some of the key things that we've seen across all of these races, which is the economy, which is crime, which is immigration, and lots of red meat for the republican base here. many of whom see desantis as a potential heir apparent to trump in 2024, and that dichotomy of how he was in 2018, vrgs now, it is really fascinating especially when you consider what could be a head-to-head in 2024. i asked one republican voter about that. listen to what he said. >> what happens if it is desantis versus trump? in 2024? >> i don't think that will happen. i don't think it is. but if it did happen, i would have to vote for desantis,

because he would have a great chance of winning, and the way that trump gets brutalized in the left wing communist press, we never, i don't think he can get elected. >> reporter: what that voter said to me there is something that i've heard over the course of the last year and a half. as i've been traveling to multiple conservative gatherings. where we regularly hear the flame ron desantis in the mix for 2024. people saying they might prefer someone who has a trump-esque profile and ideology but who doesn't have the same baggage as the former president. now all of this gets ahead of us because we're still scarily in 2022 but -- squarely in 2022 but nevertheless this is looked at as a spring board for desantis and not just the re-election but potentially greater, something greater in the years ahead. >> appreciate it. steve, let me turn to you. one of the things that both mike and ali talked about is what the

environment looks like, how it has changed in the recent week, last couple of weeks, et cetera, talk us through some of that, because there is reason now, as ali and mike pointed out, for democrats to be feeling maybe less great than they were feeling before, and for republicans to be feeling maybe a little better than they did three weeks ago. >> a couple of numbers here. a couple of shifts, if you call attention to it. first of all, the bottom line, this is the generic ballot in our new poll here, likely voters, and you can see it is close, republicans with an advantage here of one point in our poll, 48/47, so if you're a democrat, you look at that and say we're still in the ball game but where it gets concerning for democrats, particularly as when you look at some of the underlying numbers in this poll, so first of all, for instance, ask folks, what is the top issue on your mich -- on your mind for the midterm, it is the economy and cost of living, they were asked separately, but if you combine the economy, and the cost of living, essentially inflation, combine the two of them, it adds up to 35%. and meaning more than one out of

three voters here say that is top of their mind here, the economy, or inflation. and the folks who are answering that, as their top issue, they are favoring republicans by 36 points. so that is certainly the most pressing issue when you ask voters, republicans with the pronounced advantage on that. democrats do very well on this question here, threats to democracy. democrats do very well on abortion. republicans score very high on crime as well. but the top line, with the economy and the inflation, republicans with a strong advantage there. and that is underscored when you just ask about joe biden's approval rating on the economy. look at this. specifically on his handling of the economy, he is under 40% approval. and nearly 60% disapproval. that number there as high a negative number for a president on this subject as we've seen in a poll like this, our poll, this close to the midterm. so that certainly can't be helping democrats either. then there is this. this is about enthusiasm for the midterm election. there are two things to point

out here. number one, the overall number, all voters, seven out of ten voters put themselves basically at the highest level of interest when it comes to the midterm election. and that spells extremely potentially record-setting high turnout. we've never seen a number among all voters that high at this point in the midterm campaign but it is not evenly distributed between the parties. there is a gap here. among republicans, almost eight out of ten who give themselves the highest level of interest, among democrats it is about seven out of ten. there is a gap there, you can see, of nine points, between the republicans and the democrats, and what is more, that gap is new, we were not seeing it over the summer. take a look at our last poll, and our august poll, and remember, the story line this summer, one of the story lines was that democrats had all but erased the enthusiasm gap. this is what it looked like in august and september. that was in the wake of the supreme court decision on abortion. and now, that was the mar-a-lago raid playing out and donald trump front and center and as

the issues moved back to the economy and inflation, that has moved back to the fore, and perhaps that might explain why republicans have reasserted themselves in terms of having an enthusiasm advantage over democrats and 120, 125 million people, maybe voting in this midterm election. if you've got a gap like that, that could end up being very significant. >> do we love to see you at the big board? yes, we do. thank you. we should note, let's plug steve's new podcast, that is out "the revolution," next monday, looking at the origin story of the way partisan politics got the way we know it now. scan the qr code, list tonight trailer, follow it, wherever you get podcasts. new reaction coming in on the temporary win for lindsey graham today. the south carolina senator at the supreme court. with justice clarence thomas basically pressing the pause button, putting on ice, however you want to call it, the senator's testimony in georgia's election investigation. while justices consider whether to throw out the subpoena all together. the fulton county d.a.'s office

now set to respond later on this week. let's bring in kelly o'donnell covering the supreme court and senior capitol hill correspondent garrett haake for us as well. talk about the long term and both sides and interesting decision with justice thomas. >> justice thomas has the responsibility because he oversees the 11th circuit and that covers georgia there is an irony here in that of course his wife ginni thomas has been associated with issues related to the 2020 election, and that is just simply on the side here. but he, by virtue of his overseeing this circuit, is the one who received the emergency application by senator graham, who is asking the court to quash in subpoena, because he is using a privilege with being a senator, which is the speech and debate clause. so things that a senator does in the service of that work to legislate and to make speeches on the floor, and to gather information in the course of

their work, can't be questioned about that. and so senator graham is asserting that calls he made to brad raffensperger in georgia, the secretary of state there, were to prepare himself for the votes he would need to take to ultimately approve the electors. and as a part of the work he would do in having to oversee the piece of the election ratification. that of course is not how the authorities in georgia see it. they want to get at what did senator graham say to the officials in georgia, and was he in some way trying to influence the election there. they want to get that testimony. and so graham is relying on some of benefits of his office and some of the confines that would normally protect him from having to give testimony, and is saying if he is forced to do that, he would not, this would be a constitutional injury to him. and that's why it goes to the supreme court. it is temporary, because the court is asking fulton county to

respond, and that will happen later this week. and it could go to the full nine justices, we don't know the answer to that yet, or justice thomas could decide on his own. so this is a temporary pause, but it is a very notable wung, given how important this case is to the issue of democracy. >> which is at stake in this election as you well know. especially with so many election-denying republicans running for some of these secretary of state races, for example, gubernatorial, attorney general, kelly o'donnell covering the supreme court from the white house, thank you. garrett, let me go to you. you have the hill perspective. kelly mentioned it, right? the eyebrow-raising fact of the matter that justice clarence thomas is the one making this decision. you are already, even in just the last couple of hours, getting a bunch of reaction from folks on the left who are frankly infuriated. >> yes, democrats are really frustrate and the supreme court lass no specific ethics rules on when a justice should recuse and democrats have made the case that justice thomas should recuse himself from any case

having to do with the election of 2020, with january 6th, because of his wife's involvement in the stop the steal movement, because of the fact that she testified in front of the january 6th committee about that same involvement. members across the country are starting to tweet about this, including mark pokan saying the justice, his decision not to recuse here, to make this decision on his own, was disgusting. another member saying that justice thomas had no shame. the reality is that the justices get to make their own rules when it comes to when they recuse or when they don't. but this decision by thomas, as kelly pointed out, here on his own, making the decision issue to stay, should thomas ultimately be the one to make the decision to perhaps block this subpoena all together, with it not, if it does not go to the full nine? i think you will see fury from the left, and for anyone frankly who is interested in this issue, that it is one person who is clearly exposed to this issue, making that kind of decision unilaterally. watch this space, ali.

>> we will be, and i know you will, too. thank you. coming up on the show, new scrutiny for the trump administration as that criminal tax fraud trial starts in new york. we will take you live to the courthouse. plus harvey winestein returning to hollywood to stand trial again this time. the latest opening statements. we'll take you there live. and later, an nbc news exclusive interview, airing first this hour, with the treasury secretary, saying that fears that a recession is on the way, and whether we've seen the peak of inflation yet. don't miss that, coming up in a couple of minutes. coming up in couple of minutes. ur business, you can make it even smarter. now ports can know where every piece of cargo is. and where it's going. (dock worker) right on time. (vo) robots can predict breakdowns and order their own replacement parts. (foreman) nice work. (vo) and retailers can get ahead of the fashion trend of the day with a new line tomorrow. with a verizon private 5g network, you can get more agility and security. giving you more control of your business. we call this enterprise intelligence. from the network america relies on.

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the d.o.j. today announcing a bunch of indictments against nearly a dozen chinese firm officials who they say were conducting maligned schemes on behalf of their government. here is attorney general merrick garland in the last couple of hours. >> as these cases demonstrate, the government of china sought to interfere with the rights and freedoms of individuals in the united states and to undermine

our judicial system that protects those rights. they did not succeed. >> the cases range from an attempt to steal u.s. tech secrets, and intimidating a dissident, to the return to china to face prosecution. nbc news justice and intel correspondent ken dilanian will talk us through what it means. >> merrick garland, the dodge, and chris wray and other security officials talked to rornlers today about the three separate cases who they say highlight the ongoing threat from chinese espionage. and perhaps the most interesting case involved two chinese alleged operatives who are accused of trying to bribe a justice department employee to get inside information about a justice department giant huawei, and it is not clear in the documents but that is the firm they're talking about and the chinese aelgts tried to pay in bitcoin and the person was a double agent and working for the fbi and funneling information to

the u.s. government, allowing them to make that case, so that went nowhere, but a pretty interesting scheme there. and a second case they announced happened in new jersey. they said that from 2008 to 2018, a group of chinese spies set up a fake think tank that they used for various intelligence operations, including smuggling technology and trying to harass chinese americans. and then lastly, they talked about another scheme by chinese agents to try to harass and intimidate a chinese dissident living in the united states to go back to china, to face criminal charges. they say that is part of what is called operation fox hunt. which is a global campaign by china to try to use harassment and intimidation to bring back its citizens. fbi director christopher wray said that these lee separate cases show that china is willing to go to great lengths to project what he calls its authoritarian world view around the globe. now, of course, china would point outs that the united states violates the laws of china and other countries in its espionage operations but u.s. officials say it is really two

different things. >> ken dilanian, thank you. appreciate it. in california today, you've got opening statements happening as we speak in the second sex crimes trial against harvey winestein, this one in los angeles, for the former big time hollywood producer, facing 11 charges. accused of sexually assaulting five women in separate incidents from 2004 to 2013, and you can see the charges here. pleaded not guilty. the stakes higher now and the court is agreeing to allow him to appeal the conviction in new york where you will remember 2020 a jury had found him guilty of rape and sexual assault then. we have more from los angeles. bring us up to speed. because opening statements, what do we expect to hear? i know some of witnesses will be obviously coming forward, speak can out, as this trial moves forward. >> reporter: yes, opening statements began at 9:30 here in l.a. this morning and we don't have any cameras in court for this trial, so we rely on a pool of reporters, and representing the press in the court. the court just broke for lunch

in the last hour, so i did just receive a very lengthy pool report and i was able to pull some highlights. so basically the district attorney laid out quotations from several of the women that we expect to hear testify against harvey winestein. a lot of the quotes were similar in nature but a lot of them graphically describing their encounters with harvey winestein as they put it, several mentions of groping and the former movie mogul exposing himself, as to several women, a lot of the women described similar situations and descriptions of his genitalia, from a previous surgery, and so that's how the d.a. is trying to paint the picture that these women do have a lot of common knowledge in terms of these interactions. the d.a. also noting that they feared he could quoted crush their careers if they reported what he had done to them. and at the time, this was the most powerful person in the industry and another woman referred to him as the king. and there is more to comb through, as the court is on

break. as a reminder as you laid out, this is the seconds rape trial in the town that made him who he was. so a lot of survivors that i'm spoken to here in l.a. are really looking at this trial because of that appeal that you mentioned in new york, concerned that charges, that conviction could get thrown out and this trial could hold him accountable, they say, and as a reminder, we expect to hear from at least five dane dos, we know one is a former documentary film maker and the wife of current governor gavin newsom in l.a. and we expect to hear from dozens upon dozens of witnesses. this trial is expected to last at least six weeks. >> laura barrett for us live in l.a. thank you. to a separate trial that we're watching back east in a new york city courthouse with jury selection happening on day one of the trump organization's criminal tax fraud trial. here is what we're watching. you've got the former president's company, faces up to $1.6 million in penalties, for what prosecutors say was this 15-year off the books scheme. to try to avoid having top

executives pay taxes. and you know who the prosecution's star witness is against the company? this guy. the long time chief financial officer of the company allen weisselberg, and pleaded guilty and agreed to take the stand. jury selection for the next week or couple of weeks and the trial will probably go on for a month after that. investigative correspondent tom winter who knows this probably better than anyone in the business is outside court for us now. talk about the impact here on the former president's business here. what we're expecting to hear, the allen weisselberg factor here, tom. >> reporter: a little bit of an impact here, as far as the jury selection goes, our colleague talking to one of the members of the trump defense team, they say that the pool of 130 that they started the morning with at about 10:30 a.m. has now been whittled down to 59, some people have been excused because they have personal ties to some of the individuals or organizations that are a part of this case, some have said that they would perhaps find it impossible to be impartial in this case, so we're

already down to 59. chances are that we may need to get another pool of jurors, perhaps tomorrow, to again whittle down a group from that, for the two sides to then be able to make their decisions as to who is on this jury. that's one of the reasons why as you just said, this process is expected to last at least probably through this week, and potentially into next week. as far as this case overall, it's very unusual, you know, and i harken back to then candidate mitt romney saying in 2012 that corporations are people, and whether you agree or disagree with that, in the eyes of new york state law, the trump organization is a person, it is being charged criminally, and usually, they're charged civilly, corporations, and then executives are charged criminally, and in this case, you have both, because allen weisselberg, the witness that you referred to, is cfo, as part of his guilty plea, he has to testify to the conduct that he says he committed, as part of this indictment, and it is the

very same conduct that the trump organization is charged. with so it's kind of a slam dunk testimony, if you're the prosecutors, because allen weisselberg will say all of those things that you said i did with them, i did with them, and so it will be very difficult potentially, legal experts say, for trump team to attack allen weisselberg. and of course if they do, it is possible he could discuss other ongoings of the company. so it is just a very unusual type of case that we have here. the trial is expected to last approximately a month or so. so this should go well into november. and we'll just have to see how it all plays out. >> tom winter, we sure will. thank you, sir. we appreciate it. still ahead on the show why, u.s. officials are accusing moscow of laying the ground work to escalate the war in ukraine. the latest from what we're hearing from the state department. but first, the uk, about to have a new prime minister again, the first person of color ever to be in charge in that country's history. we'll take you live to london in a minute. ♪ i'm way ahead of schedule with my trusty team ♪

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the u.k. finding its new leader yet again. rishi sunak now on track to become the country's third prime minister in just seven weeks. he's only 42. he's going to be the youngest pm in more than 200 years, the

first a britishen asian descent and he is stepping into kind of a hot mess, and the country in political and economic turmoil, inflation at the highest been, before i was born. watch. >> there is no doubt we face a profound economic challenge. we now need stability and unity and i will make it my utmost priority to bring our party and our country together. >> nbc news chief international correspondent keir simmons is joining us now live from london. he is such an interesting politician if you will. because he is already very wealthy. he will become incredibly powerful as prime minister. i think he has more money than king charles coming into this year, and he is inheriting a mess. why would you want this job right now? >> reporter: yes, i would want to fact check, i know that is being talked a lot about, that he has more money than king charles, king charles has a lot of money and a lot of money you don't necessarily see.

i don't know. that being said though, here's a fascinating thing -- people are saying it. you're not the only one. >> he's got loads of cash and now take this job on here. >> reporter: that's right. and it is a good point, because he is having to try and tell this country, people who are dealing with soaring mortgages and soaring fuel bills, and facing tax cuts and tax rises and spending cuts, that they are going to have to buckle down just at the same time of course being a politician, as you say, he's very, very wealthy, and at least in theory, to have an impact. it is funny isn't it, he's not, he's not the most how can you put it, not necessarily the most entertaining of politicians when you see him speak and at the same time so many things to say about him and goodness me, the first person of color to move through that door as prime minister. and that is an enormous achievement, a huge achievement just in and of itself, he is very, very young, as you mentioned, he is very smart, he

went to oxford and stanford, so you know, there are many things to talk about, about him about rishi sunak, but ultimately at the end, the proof will be in the weeks ahead, and this is not going to be easy, not by any stretch. just look at this one poll. two third was british people think that the conservative party you just selected, rishi sunak, are not confident. not competent. because of what they have put the country through in the weeks that have gone by. and there are many loud voices now, calling for a general election. you can see another of course. and the white house is watching. and the issue with that is, that would mean more instability here in the u.k. at a time when europe needs stability with what is happening in ukraine. >> keir simmons live for us in london. i know round the clock hours, we will see you in a little bit. appreciate it. also overseas shall the white house today rejecting an explosive allegation from russia.

ukraine, moscow says, is getting ready to use a so-called dirty bomb on its own people, and blame it on russia. the u.s. says that is transparently false. and they are laying the ground work for its own escalation of the war. ukraine is trying to keep the lights on after another day of missile and drone strikes targeting the infrastructure. eight people dead in the last 24 hours. nbc news correspondent cal perry is on the ground. we've seen in the pentagon today, saying the disruption claim of a nuclear dirty bomb is a pretext. we've seen pretexts from russia before, the u.s. says it is part and parcel of that pattern from moscow. talk to us about what we know and the level of concern here. >> so this all began yesterday. the defense secretary in russia, making calls, calls his counterparts in the u.s. and united kingdom and france and said ukraine is trying to increase the level of warfare happening, they're going to use a dirtily bomb. immediately the foreign ministry put out a statement and saying this is russia just basically

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right now three quarters of pediatric hospital beds totally occupied according to federal health data. some states, rhode island, delaware, reporting more than 94% of beds are taken, and others are 85%. at one hospital in connecticut, the "washington post" reports the emergency room is so full that patients are being triaged in hallways. there just aren't enough beds, for those with bone fractures and appendicitis, and diverted to care centers. hospitals are asking for the national guard to help set up tents to care for patients, that's how intense it is in some parts of the country. here in washington, d.c., officials say still bring your kids in, john tore es, senior medical correspondent, bring your kids in, we'll get them care, they might not get a bed, and what is happening in hospitals it is serious, when you look at rsv and flu and the covid that is going around. >> the rsv and flu and covid and something called intero virus,

another respiratory virus what is causing the icus for children's wards to fill up quickly. and i think what is happening, with rsv, we're seeing these earlier than usual and hitting harder than earlier on and part of that is over the last couple of years, we haven't seen much, and so we're playing a little bit of catch-up for the kids and hospital systems as well and hopefully things will even out to get a breather. >> and what do you say with the doctors, and group chats, and as a mom, my group chats are blowing up about it and my friends who are doctors are feeling the intensity at this moment and feeling the pinch, and feeling the stress of how many kids are showing up, looking for really important care. >> and that's the main thing i'm hearing, is number one, these things are really filling up, the icus, are filling up, seeing a lot more children than they normally do this time of the year, because these viruses typically play out over the six month time period. and one after the other. and not all at the same time. so they're seeing that, they're

filling up, and the patients are coming and the parents are concerned but they're dealing with the last two and a half years of the constant workload they've been dealing with, so this is all adding to it, you know, more of that burnout, more of that workload that they've been having over the last couple of years, and it doesn't seem to be getting a break at this point. the number one message they're giving to everybody, please get your vaccines, that's the best thing you can do to help yourself and those who can't get vacks named. >> we're showing the stats on rsv, under the age of one, not ideal and 5,000 rsv cases right now. and something interesting, to pull that thread dr. john, is for a lot of these kids, you know, toddlers, which i well now, they've had covid, pandemic lives, where many people have been wearing masks the last two years an and that's not happening now and the immune systems are exposed to so much of it. what are parents supposed to do? what do you give to parents as advice, and moving to a maskless society and things are back to normal mostly, and they're

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kathy park has more. >> the school day was getting under way today, and officials say after they received calls of an active shooter, officers were on campus in a matter of minutes and exchanged gunfire with the suspect armed with a long gun and he was injured and later died at the hospital. police say the gunman was a man around 20 years old and his identity has not been released. right now it is unclear how he was connected with the school and how he got inside the building which was locked. at least two others were killed and several others were wounded in the shooting, when students heard gunfire, they thought it was a drill, and they quickly realized it wasn't. stories of survival are starting to emerge including one student who said he escaped by jumping out the window. we'll keep a close eye on the story, as it develops. we'll be right back. iphone 14 p. and right now business owners can get it on us at t-mobile. apple business essentials with apple care+ is included so you can easily manage your team's devices, here, and here.

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one with stephanie ruhle on where the u.s. is headed on this whole recession thing. let me bring in miss ruhle our business analyst. okay. like heat her temperature on the economy right now? where are we and what did she tell you? >> first of all, congratulations to you, hallie jackson and the phillies. i haven't heard you talk about it in your show yet, which is a shock to me. >> i don't want to -- i traded my phils fandom to nats fam dom to get my partner on the eagles train. janet yellen is not under a rock and cares about our money. it's a complicated situation. money matters, inflation matters. ha does janet yellen think? she thinks we're in a lot better shape than we would be if the government hadn't provided the support they had. she thinks we're in significantly better shape than two years ago. however she's clear and knows we're not out of the woods and while things are looking

positive it's not over. she can only do so much but she talked about the fed. watch this. >> i have confidence that inflation will come down over the next year or two, so i believe that what they're doing will work. >> do you believe its peaked? >> i'm not positive. i don't want to forecast month by month inflation numbers. the month recent data suggests we still have inflation that's unacceptably high, but there are good indications earlier in the pipeline that inflation will come down. >> compare us to the rest of the world we're doing well, but the midterms are two weeks away and lot of the things that the biden administration has done really good things, on infrastructure, on infrastructure spending and the inflation reduction act, last week being able to buy hearing aids over the counter, huge positives, but a lot of

things they've done are going to take time and time isn't what democrats have on their side when so many people are unhappy about how much everything costs. >> how did she get on the backdrop of this at this moment you're making important points on where the economy is overall. we're two weeks out from the midterms when that is going to be driving people to the polls now, not three months from now? >> so here's the thing, what are democrats going to do? get a bumper sticker that says it could have been worse. that's the hand they're dealing with. they took us out of a pandemic and the economy is recovering. long at where unemployment is. it's complicated. while many are driven to vote because of the economy, she left the reminder what's the other plan? republicans are pounding fear into people, they don't have to pound far. they haven't offered an alternate prescription >> we will see more tonight on the network and tomorrow on the

"today" show too. down to texas where early voting is happening today with a high profile governor's race. the governor governor abbott holding on to a double-digit lead as both candidates are trying to win over suburban voters. the question for o'rourke and his team is there enough time left for demes to sway anybody on the fence. you're at a voting site outside of houston. at this point if you look at polling we don't call a race but governor abbott has a healthy lead. that said, democrat beto o'rourke in red texas made it, is trying to make it competitive here. talk about the landscape and the mood? >> yeah. so first, for some context on the landscape in 2018 when both abbott and o'rourke were on the ballot we saw beto o'rourke beat ted cruz by 12 points in fort ben county and governor job bot

narrowly won by less than 500 votes. this is a different race than what we saw in 2018. i want to play some of the sound i've heard from voters, some supporting beto o'rourke, some supporting greg abbott. here's what's they had to say about beto o'rourke this time around. take a listen. >> he's very pro abortion, which i don't like, and it seems like whatever he runs for he loses. that's not a good history to me. >> i'm not impressed with his candidacy, but he's not the incumbent, but he's running for president, congressman, he's running for everything, senator, so he's just a lifetime politician. you know, between him and the incumbent i would pick the challenger. >> so beto o'rourke has different challenges this time around, but i will tell you, what i'm hearing from republican voters is in line with the polling that we've seen. they're concerned about the

economy and inflation and they are concerned about immigration and on the democratic side, i'm hearing about abortion, i'm hearing about protecting democracy, and it's a question of which of those -- which candidate is going to turn out more voters and how is that going to look statewide? as you mentioned beto has been trailing in all the polling. i heard mention of the philly, everyone who is showing up to the polls today, republican or democrat, lots of folks in those astros jerseys. >> let me be clear i am still hoping the phillies win the world series. i will not betray my roots in bucks county by saying that. i want to be transparent with you and our viewers. go phils. thank you so much. appreciate you being in texas and all joining us for this hour of msnbc. it is nice to be back with you. appreciate everything. find us on twitter and, of course, show number two, nbc news now at 5:00 eastern i'm on the road on assignment tomorrow but see you live from florida on

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