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we're following a pivotal moment in the midterms as we come on the air with the final countdown to that critical debate in pennsylvania. john fetterman and mehmet oz facing off for the first and only time ahead of election day. this hour, what to expect and what to watch for. and why republicans are now pumping a new round of $6 million into the race. our political experts are here standing by. also this hour, new details on two one-time close aides to former president trump. nbc news confirming one member of his white house inner circle talking to the january 6th committee. while another is trying to get out of talking to the georgia grand jury. the new legal filing just

dropping this afternoon. we're live with those developments. plus, president biden making a new public plea for americans to get their covid booster shots with cases rising across the country and new worries about a so-called triple demic. one of the nation's top health officials, dr. anthony fauci, here to talk about that and more. good to be with you. and joining me now, nbc news correspondent, dasha burns in harrisburg, pennsylvania. mark murray and governor and editor for spotlight pa, katie myers. break down what voters are going to hear tonight. >> this is probably the most anticipated and most high stakes moment of the midterms. for months, these two candidates have been battling it out over the air waves, over social media and the voters i've been talking to across pennsylvania, across party lines, are eager to see

these two talk about the issues face-to-face on the debate stage tonight and we've been talking to specific subsets of voters that these candidates have been targeting. one is suburban women. oz has been really honing his message on crime towards this group. fetterman talking about abortion. i talked to women in two different counties. lucerne, which was red, montgomery, which is blue. what is really surprising here is that the issues that were top of mind for voters this both counties were very similar. they were the economy and it was crime. crime and public safety. and so it's interesting, you know, in this divided time, people think everyone is running to their corners right now, but there are still a subset of voters that are persuadable, really thinking about candidate. that are not thinking just party line. i want you to listen to some of those conversations. >> i just want to make my best

decision because i didn't a year ago. >> why? >> i feel like i voted for the wrong person. >> who? >> trump. >> you're a registered democrat. but you're more interested in sort of more conservative candidates at this point. >> yes, i am. >> in terms of expectations for tonight, the fetterman campaign put out a memo about what to expect, sort of lowering expectations saying quote, we'll admit this isn't john's format and oz comes into tuesday with a huge, built-in advantage. remember, oz, a tv doctor, has pushed for more than one debate and saying that john is going to win this race even if he doesn't win the debate. they also pointed to the unique circumstances of the debate, calling it unprecedented to have the closed captioning that fetterman will be using because

of those ongoing auditory processing issues. we'll see what this match-up looks like. i know voters are looking for them to talk about crime, inflation and there are a good amount of voters that say they could make up their minds tonight. >> on the topic of the debate here, you followed fetterman's debate performances even before the stroke. so knowing what you know and what you're hearing from his camp, how important is tonight for them? do they see it as an opportunity, a challenge? both maybe? >> yeah it's opportunity and a challenge. probably more of a challenge. there's sort of a political truth, which is that if you're leading, even if it's very narrow as fetterman's lead in this race seems to be, that a debate is really an opportunity for you to mess up. as you mentioned, you know, fetterman has, his campaign has tried to sort of manage expectations about this debate and you know, fetterman, pre stroke, throughout his

political career, his speaking has never been a strong suit. he's more of an on the ground politician. a person who has an image that appeals to an interesting swath of voters for a democrat. so i think that's what the campaign is trying to show is that you know, a debate is one stage. the it's not the only stage for this kind of a candidate. >> so on the topic of debates here again, they don't necessarily usher in huge changes to voter opinion, but do you think with all the drama surrounding this it will have more of an effect? >> potentially. i think what dasha was reporting on earlier, the unprecedented nature of this closed captioning that will be available to both candidates. it was part of the debate agreement for having john fetterman to be able to participate given the auditory processing issues that he's had after his stroke. and of course, john fetterman has been on the campaign trial. he's been in media interviews including with dasha, but i think people want to be able to

see him go toe to toe and how he ends up fairing. as you mentioned, that's not the job of a united states senator, but in such a close contest, some people looking to get a sense of john fetterman's health, as well as his acuity. i think that's one of the big reasons why so many people are tuning in. >> so, katie, you also spoke to pennsylvanians still on the fence and you write while republicans made gains, fetterman and oz still need to capture undecided independents to win. so what's keeping those voters in the undecided column? >> well, i think it's kind of a misnomer to say it's just undecided voters. really what we're looking at is some voters that might be undecided and also some that might vote in sort of unexpected ways. so people who might vote a different way than they did in 2020, for example. one thing i can say is that fetterman and oz have different theories about what this race is

and where it's going to be won. oz is really focused on the philadelphia suburbs, talking about crime, trying to really you know, convince people and speak to fears about crime in the suburbs. and fetterman has had a totally different theory about this race. it's not necessarily the moderate voters in the populous suburbs for him. suburbs that have gotten more and more blue in the last decade plus. fetterman has tried to focus on more disenfranchised voters and voters that feel disconnected from their party. that's kind of what we see from these guys. >> mark, senate republicans are pouring $6 million into the senate race with just two weeks to go. what does that say about how the gop is viewing this race? >> really, this battle for senate control comes down to three states and which party ends up winning two of the three will most likely end up controlling the senate after election day. those three states are georgia, pennsylvania, and nevada. and so if democrats and john fetterman are able to win in pennsylvania and rafael warnock

holds on, is able to avoid a runoff in georgia, that means democrats will most likely keep control of the united states senate. so we're' seeing effort to boost up herschel walker in georgia as well as to boost up mehmet oz, who has been trailing very narrowly. that's why pennsylvania is so important here. if john fetterman's able to win this race, then that gives democrats a pretty clear shot in holding senate control despite some really unfavorable headwinds the party's facing nationally. >> dasha, you mentioned crime as a big issue for voters and that's something mehmet oz has been hammering on. do you get the sense that's going to be one of the, if not the focus tonight for both camps? >> i think it's going to be crime. i think it's going to be the economy. and the link between those two. this is definitely major talking point for the republican party. not just here in pennsylvania. but nationally. it will be interesting to see

after so many months of oz hammering fetterman on crime, on his clemency record as lieutenant governor, how fetterman defends himself. how he responds. how he might lob some attacks as oz on his record or lack thereof as well. >> in your interview with fetterman, he had mentioned his record as proof in the pudding there. thank you all. and while pennsylvania is grabbing headlines, there's a lot going on across the country as we race toward election day. got debates happening in michigan and new york tonight. in those key races for governor as well as colorado's stat race. it's also a big day in wisconsin with early voting starting there today. including by one senate hopeful you're seeing here. democratic nominee, mandela barnes who's facing off against ron johnson, who's made election security a big part of his campaign in response to conspiracy theories about the 2020 election. i'm joined now by shaquille

brewster in wisconsin. what messages are the candidates sepding to voters as they start heading to the polls today? >> reporter: on this first day of early in-person voting, they're asking voters to hey, come out and vote for me. you're seeing that on both sides here. you mentioned we saw lieutenant governor barnes going to cast his ballot at 9:00 a.m., at the moment polls opened. he was one of the first people to do that in milwaukee. we see the governor running for re-election, barn storming the state asking his voters to vote early and we're also hearing that message from senator ron johnson. ron johnson, i just left an event where he said this year, we're asking republicans to come out and vote early and that's, despite the fact you mentioned in 2020, he's cast doubt on the election administration and how things were run here in wisconsin. this year just about a week ago, he set up a website encouraging his supporters and voters if they see any voting violations,

to report it on his website to be reviewed from his campaign attorney. that was something both johnson and barnes were asked about today. i want you to listen to their responses. >> it's meant to restore is confidence in our election system. for everybody. democrat, independent, republican. we need to have the confidence that your vote is not being canceled by a fraudulent vote. >> this is the same person that tried to overturn the 2020 election because he didn't like the result. so we can assume that ron johnson now running any sort of factual operation on that website. >> one thing to also note here in wisconsin is that elections look differently than they did just two years ago. those drop boxes that were so popular in milwaukee were used by more than half of the people who voted by mail according to election officials. those are no longer allowed. there's more restrictions on how clerks can cure ballots.

if someone has an incomplete address, that is no longer allowed. so how elections are taking place here in wisconsin has changed because of the conservative court in this state. but one thing you're hearing on both sides is they want people to come out. they want people to vote early and today, they have that opportunity to do so. >> all right, thanks so much. coming up, new testimony from a former top trump aide as the january 6th committee continues its investigation. what information the committee is after. plus, some congressional lawmakers now taking back a letter they sent to president biden less than 24 hours ago. what happened and why putin is involved. but first, the president just got his covid booster shot as concerns grow about a triple demic across the country. dr. fauci is here live, next. e . dr. fauci iser he live, next (vo) with their verizon private 5g network, associated british ports can now precisely orchestrate nearly 600,000 vehicles passing through their uk port every year. don't just connect your business.

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just now at the white house, president biden got his updated covid booster shot and he's urging people to go out and do the same. >> we're here with a simple message. get vaccinated. update your covid vaccine. it's incredibly effective, but the truth is not enough people are getting it. we've got to change that. so we can all have a safe and healthy holiday season. >> right now, we're seeing a triple threat. the flu, covid-19, and rsv are all on the rise with the flu and rsv ramping up earlier than expected. it's putting a strain on hospitals with more than a dozen states reporting their pediatric hospitals are close to or at capacity. i want to bring in dr. anthony fauci. thanks for being with us. let's start there.

what areas of the country are you most concerned about now and in the coming weeks? >> we're really concerned about the entire country. you saw from the map the areas there that looked in the sense red for having a large degree of what we call conflating infections that you very correctly pointed out. if you look at that level there, you know, we have covid itself right now although at a lower level than it's been in the past, but it's superimposed upon infections that you see during the winter, the cold months or the late fall and early winter. that's respiratory virus, particularly among vulnerable children 5 years as well as elderly adults. then you have a flu season which we expect is going to be a problematic season because our colleagues in australia had a very bad flu season and we generally follow them.

the point that the president was making today during the ceremony at the white house, is that we have interventions that can prevent us from getting severe disease and really get to the poin where no one should really have to die from covid given the fact we have a vaccine now, an updated vaccine. >> but doctor, in terms of those mitigations, the fact we have these vaccines, the cdc is reporting fewer people are getting the flu shot so far compared to last year and there also seems to be fatigue in people getting the covid booster. according to the cdc, only around 8.6% of people are getting the second. >> people are tired of going through covid.

are tired of the disease area that seems to be dominating our society. over the last almost three years now. that is entirely understandable. but what the president was trying to say and said very clearly today is that we have the tools to do something about this and it's unfortunate that the uptake of vaccines both the booster, the updated ba.45 bivalent is not being uptaken as much as we want and that's the reason we're out here with the president bringing it to the attention of the general public, why it is so important to get vaccinated. >> doctor, we're seeing new subvariants in singapore and in europe. could those new strains have the ability to potentially evade this new booster? >> you know, the answer is new variants always can potentially evade immune response either of the vaccines or monoclonal antibodies, but if you look

carefully at those variants you're talking about, the bq1.1s or xpds, those are sub lineages of the omicron and sub lineages ought to be 4.5. so even though it isn't directly against that, the vaccines we're giving now, we fully expect that there will be enough cross protection to prevent you from getting severe disease. so even though we pay attention to the variants and we get concerned about them, the vaccine that we're talking about now that's directed specifically against ba.45 very likely will give cross protection against the other sub lineages that are appearing. >> good news to hear. what are the potential odds though that we might see the need for another booster within the next year? >> well, as the president said, and we agree with that assessment. it is very likely and appropriate that we should think in terms of on a yearly basis,

getting an upgrade and updating of the circulating strain with a vaccine similar to what we do with flu. we get a flu vaccine every year by trying to match it to whatever flu happened to be evolving in the circulation at the time and we should be doing the same thing with covid. so i would imagine we're going to get into a cadence. there are going to be some who need a boost more frequently than every year, but for the most part, for the general population, i think we can say that that would be a good cadence to say once a year to get an upgraded covid vaccine. >> doctor, i know you don't like to get personal, talk about yourself, but you have expressed intentions to step down in december and at the time, you had said it was a good time to step down from your current role because things were starting to stabilize a bit. would you consider the environment we're currently in to be stable still?

>> in general, if you look at where we are now compared to where we were many months to a year ago, we're doing much better off. but the thing i want to make as a message that i think is really important is that it is within our own power and our own where with all to make it even more stable than it is and that's what the president was trying to say and did say very clearly today. we have good vaccines. we have antivirals. if we utilize them, we should do fine. there's no reason now for someone to die from covid given the fact we have vaccines and good antivirals. >> doctor, so many people look to you to instill calm about where we are and where we're headed. likely to say, suffice to say your successor could fill those shoes as well. have you spoken to the president about who your successor should be? >> no, my successor will be

determined in my institute as i have two jobs. i have the director of the national institute of allergy and infectious diseases and that will be determined by a national search. for someone to replace me. as far as the chief medical adviser to the president, that would be up to the president as to whether or not he wants to replace me and with whom he wants to replace me, but remember, we have a very good covid response team at the white house. we have dr. jha, dr. wolinski from the cdc. we have a very good team here. >> thank you. >> my pleasure. still ahead, the legal battle over president biden's student loan plan is heating up big time today. where it stands and how it could impact you. but first, which of former president trump's closest confidants is talking to the january 6th committee today? confidants is talking to the january 6th committee today?

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former trump chief of staff is asking a judge to reject the subpoena. this just one day after supreme court justice clarence thomas temporarily blocked the requirement for lindsey graham to testify in that same probe. i want to bring in nbc news justice and intel correspondent, ken dilanian. why is meadows arguing he should not have to testify? >> he's making some brazen arguments. he's arguing this special grand jury is not a criminal investigation so therefore, the subpoena shouldn't apply to him. secondly, he's saying because he cited executive privilege in federal court, he shouldn't be subject to the subpoena. it's true this grand jury doesn't have the power to indict in georgia, but it's very much investigating criminal law and no other witness has successfully argued it's not a criminal probe. so it's hard to know what the courts are going to do with this, but it seems likely he'll be required to testify. >> do you feel the same about graham? >> i think so.

the speech and debate clause is a different animal and it's hard no know what the supreme court will do, but seems like it wasn't part of his ledge es lative duties. >> thank you so much. the house january 6th committee is interviewing one of the closest. hope hicks, stepping down just days after the capitol attack. ryan, i don't know you've been at the job for a few weeks now, but it's a pleasure to get to talk to you here on msnbc. let's talk about hope hicks because she's been on the hill before, back in 2019. refused to answer questions about her time in the white house. do you have a sense of if she wants to cooperate now? >> it would indicate she's not someone who's all that forthcoming about her time in the white house. when you point back to the period of time in 2019,

congressional investigators were very frustrated with her unwillingness to answer specific questions they had about the conduct in the trump white house at that time. so it stands to reason she might be someone that may not be all that willing of a witness in this investigation as well. but there is no doubt that she plays an important role. this is someone that is fiercely loyal to the former president, donald trump, and was in and around his inner circle. and the period of time leading up to the 2020 election and then in that crucial period of time after the election leading up to january 6th where the january 6th select committee believes a lot of the misinformation that was put out by donald trump and his allies is what led to the violence and chaos on january 6th. of course, the big question is will she answer any of those questions. we've seen other trump associates work to try and invoke executive privilege or even attorney client privilege. the fact it's taken so long to

get hope hicks in front of this committee. here we are just maybe a couple of weeks before their work comes to an end, shows the committee still finds her work to be important but they may have questions about how willing she'll be to cooperate. this has been a lengthy conversation. i'm told it happened virtual, not in-person. so we'll have to wait and see if the committee finds anything substantive. >> if they do, we have no word of any other public hearing. would we find that out by you finds anything substantive. >> if they do, we have no word of any other public hearing. would we find that out by you were reporting and sourcing that final report from the committee? >> yeah, and it's important to keep in mind that the committee has said at some point at the end of their investigation, they're going to release everything they have compiled. that means the complete depositions from the thousands of interviews they have done with numerous witnesses connected to this investigation. so yes, we will find out at some

point just how forthcoming she has been. the question is not if, but more when. >> all right, thank you so much. in a big about face on capitol hill, house progressives are now taking back a letter they sent to president biden just yesterday. in it, the group of 30 lawmakers called on the president to shift his ukraine strategy and directly engage with russia in an effort to end the war. but now 24 hours later after pushback, the head of the caucus is retracting it, blaming the letter's release on a staff error and claiming it was drafted months ago. take us behind the scenes. what happened? >> reporter: well, a lot of democrats are asking themselves that very question right now. i've heard from my sources in the house democratic caucus as to how this all played out. it was about 24 hours ago where house democrats, about 30 of them, released a letter led by

the chair, jayapal to engage in direct talks with putin essentially, the bring the war in ukraine to an end. there was immediate pushback what feared it would undermine president biden's strategy and the west's resolve to continue to defend ukraine. specifically the fact that was not coming from the republicans, but from the president's own party. the progressive caucus chair tried to clarify this last night. it didn't stop the criticism then today about 24 hours after the letter was put out, she retracted it in full. she said that letter is now hereby withdrawn. she said it was drafted several months ago but unfortunately, was released by staff without vetting. she went on to say as chair of the caucus, i accept responsibility for this because of the timing, on messages being conflated by some as being equivalent to the recent

statement by kevin mccarthy threatening an end to aid in ukraine. now, some of the other members or rather signatories on this letter were also happy it was withdrawn. one is jamie raskin. nobody's idea of a back bencher. he was democrats main impeachment manager. he wants to be the next top democrat on the oversight committee. he said he's zblad the better was withdrawn. he said democrats like me who have supported every package of economic assistance to the ukrainian people and are determined to see the ukrainian people win victory over putin and expel his imperialist forces from the country. it's notable the progressive caucus has more than 100 members. only 30 signed on to this. i heard from one congressional office that's a member. they received this letter about a month and a half ago. they immediately rejected it.

thought it would be a bad idea. so there you have it, the letter is withdrawn, but the question is has the damage already been done. >> thank you. next, the uk's new prime minister is officially on the job as the third leader in two months. we're going to talk about his plan to try and calm the economic chaos. but first, new comments from president biden on brittney griner. what he's saying about the prospects of bringing her home after russia denied the appeal of her drug conviction. ied the l of her drug conviction covid-19. some people get it, and some people can get it bad. and for those who do get it bad, it may be because they have a high-risk factor. such as heart disease, diabetes, being overweight, asthma, or smoking. even if symptoms feel mild, these factors can increase your risk of covid-19 turning severe.

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>> today, a russian court upheld greiner's nine-year sentence on drug charges. that appeal process dismissed by the white house as a sham proceeding. greiner is now expected to be moved to a russian prison colony. matt joins us now with the latest. is there any other legal resource for greiner or is her fate at the hands of u.s. and russian diplomats? >> thank you. technically, she has the ability to appeal this one more time, kicking it up to a higher russian court. but this is now her second time of going through some kind of formal proceeding. thinking back to paul wheelen, has tried appeals himself, but every time the verdict continues to be upheld. we saw greiner's lawyers today in court make a case that she has received with they said within their own words was an

extraordinarily harsh sentence, that even russian sentence on similar charges don't sentence. they tried to play that out in court today, but it did not stick. it again falls back on to a diplomatic process but there's not at the moment very much hope for that either. we're going on eight months of this now. again, think of paul who has been subject to the diplomatic process for five years. it just hasn't gone anywhere. we understand at this point this is very much kind of linked to the broader state of u.s. russia relations which are not in a good point. it seems basically out of her hands at this point. >> thank you. a profound economic crisis. that's how the uk's new prime

minister describes the current conditions now and what he's now tasked with getting them out of. >> i will place economic stability and confidence at the heart of this government's agenda. this will mean difficult decisions to come. >> rishi sunak was officially confirmed when he met with king charles iii today. he's now got the heavy lift of uniting his party around a new government in a period of unprecedented political turbulence. keir simons joins us now from london. sunak is starting to appoint his cabinet including some familiar faces. what are relearning about how he plans to approach the job? >> reporter: well, he's trying to unite a party that is incredibly divided and he's talked about the difficult decisions. let me give you an example. i was listening to matt talk

about the russia situation. russia looms large. will there be a point where the new prime minister is under pressure to reevaluate britain's economic support for ukraine at a time when there are so many challenges here economically, the likelihood of tax rises, spending cuts, rising cost of living issues. there's no sign of that right now, but that's just one of the examples of the many difficult issues that are likely to face sunak in the weeks and months and probably years ahead. and it's kind of a split screen because on the one hand, you have all of that, then this extraordinary moment, the first person of color to walk through that world famous door as prime minister. rishi, the president of rishi sunak's home hindu temple here describing it as britain's obama moment and there is delight in the indian community here and in

india that a man with an indian background is now the leader of a country with such a colonial past. again in the end, in the difficulties of being a british prime minister at this time, really, really challenging. >> all right, keir simons, thank you so much. still ahead, one state is seeing several instances of voter intimidation at ballot boxes, including from some people who are armed. the new reaction from law enforcement and steps being taken by local election officials. n by local election officials. and we would experience turbulence. i would watch the flight attendants. if they're not nervous, then i'm not going to be nervous. financially, i'm the flight attendant in that situation. the relief that comes over people once they know they've got a guide to help them through, i definitely feel privileged to be in that position. ♪♪

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legal battle go next? >> well, lindsey, it's actually possible we won't hear any arguments from the attorney generals, they've laid out their case that president biden and the executive authority exceeded their authority by granting this blanket waiver up to $20,000 in student debt. that they say it needs to be done by a department of justice and congress. and first that they don't have any standing here that would be no irreparable injury to the plaintiff, the states, if the plan were to go through and that the public interests would suffer greatly if the president's plan were not to go through. where do we stand? of course, the lower court, the eastern district of missouri dismiss the lawsuit initially. the republican attorneys general appealed to the circuit court. after 6:00 p.m. tonight, we could hear from the circuit courts really any moment, maybe

tomorrow, if they're going to agree to extend this rule that student loan forgiveness is unconstitutional. but then, of course, we would likely have another appeal, all expectations this might and will likely go to the supreme court. in the meantime, the biden administration is still encouraging americans to fill out this very simple application. of those who might qualify, they say 22 million americans as of last friday have done so. there's an expectation up to the 40 million americans who do qualify will do so by the end of the filing period. but a lot of questions as this gets into legal jeopardy whether that period might be extended. for now, the administration is holding to the plan saying they're confident they'll win in the courts. >> mike, do you think the president, since this is one of his platforms that he'll take this all the way up to the supreme court if it goes to that? >> absolutely. it was interesting to hear the president weigh in on this at the dnc kwhaertds. he really made a political indicate for the obstruction here. the republicans challenging it,

he called it the mega/maga trickle-down politics in the extreme. in some ways, the president seems to welcome this legal battle in order to crystallize the argument with two weeks to go before the election. >> mike memoli, thank you. a share is beating up at ball drop boxes because of multiple incidents involved sometimes armed people. watching and taking videos of voters as they cast their ballots. in one instance, deputies responded to two people who showed up at a drop box carrying guns and wearing tactical gear. the secretary of state said she's referred six to law enforcement in the past week. all of this apparently inspired by former president trump's false accusation says about the 2020 election. nbc's vaughn hillyard joins me now. >> this is a situation in which we could have seen coming here. a lot of this was inspired by

that movie "2,000 mules." it was from conservatives who put together a movie using geo location data supposedly that somehow suggested in 2022 election there were 223 mules in the state of arizona that stuffed allegedly ballots into the drop boxes around the state of arizona. of course, that has been debunked even the arizona attorney general just over a week ago, the republican attorney general said they never provided any actual, any evidence of this. yet, there are folks who believe this year, or at least are making the case that drop boxes were used as an outlet to reveal the election of joe biden. that's what we've seen in the last couple of days and even hours here, some of the masked individuals and now the arizona secretary of state's office has so far referred six of these incidents not only to the fbi but the state's attorney general indicating this may be instances of intimidation. >> and this is raised because so

many people vote early in arizona either by mail or dropping off their balls in the drop boxes. and the sherri in the largest county in aarizona is denouncing these conspiracy theories. what's he saying? >> yeah, paul penz has had to reiterate, every day, i'm dedicating a considerable amount of resources zwrouft give people confidence that they can cast a vote safely and that is absurd. and of course, the folks have rallied, having to rally the folks to come out and protect the drop becauses and their argument, the gop argument includes the likes of mark finchem, the republican secretary of state, put out a tweet in all caps, watch all drop boxes, period, save the republic. if this is the situation here over the course of these next two weeks of which we've already heard from voters who have called up and reported these incidents, one of them suggested they back up into the drop box location because there are ten individuals with their cameras

out, that were suggesting that they were, quote, a mule and trying to take photos of their license plate. that individual then drove backwardses out of the parking lot and were following in another vehicle as they tried to take a picture of their license plate. again, a normal individual should have the right to be concerned because we saw, after 2020, the number of citizens who were targeted falsely. and suggested that they were part of some conspiracy of fraud, when, of course, those allegations were not -- were not accurate at all. >> just like the candidates for governor of arizona, the candidates of secretary of state for both elections could be more ideological different. thank you. thank you for watching this hour of msnbc. "deadline: white house" starts after this quick break. quick bk ♪ wayfair, you've got just what i need ♪ ♪ hit it!♪ ♪it takes two to make a thing go right♪

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