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literally not be closer. polls have been tightening for weeks, as republicans have edged into democratic gains that were made over the summer. tonight, debates just wrapped in races for new york governor and the senate, we'll have much more on that. but before, that it's worth remembering exactly how we got, here considering how much of a rollercoaster of an election year it has been. remember a few months ago on june 7th, when the city of san francisco shocked the country, when it recalled its progressive district attorney. the campaign against him had framed his criminal justice reform platform is somehow soft on crime, provoking backlash among san franciscans. that local election in blue blue california, was held up as a canary in the coal mine for democrats. the party, according to them, had a crime problem that republicans would seize on in an election year, when that already favored republicans. and here were some of those headlines. progressive backlash in california, fuels democratic debate over crime. california voters send a stark

message to democrats on crime and homelessness. democrats need to understand the real message that san francisco sends. at the same, time prices across the country were beginning to soar. the week of that recall gas in the u.s. topped $5 a gallon for the first time ever, and republicans began gearing up to make the election all about inflation. so there were theoretically contours of the election, only a few weeks, go as of the first week of june. and then, two weeks later, everything changed. the united states supreme court struck down a 50-year precedent, protecting a woman's right to control her own body, which just upended political dynamics across the country. and at first, democrats didn't know how to react. their initial response was, if you recall, confused, and even a little cringy. remember this is what congressional democrats decided to do the day the court overturned roe. >> ♪ ♪ ♪

>> for the mountains -- to the oceans, got a blast america! my home sweet home! ♪ ♪ ♪ needless to say, that i accapela performance did not immediately inspire confidence among the women who had just lost their fundamental right to bodily autonomy. but, democrats did eventually find their focus, and they coalesced, in large part because of what happened about six weeks later. on august 2nd, voters in deep red kansas went to the polls in droves. to reject a ballot measure that would have allowed the state to ban abortion. democrats heard that message out of kansas, and they heard it loud and clear. it was time to make this campaign a referendum on republican assaults on personal freedom. abortion became the central issue of the campaign. as about abortion quickly became the norm, as democrats flooded the arrives with

messaging with messaging about reproductive rights. democrats rose in the polls, in parallel to outrage about the supreme court decision is that spread throughout the country. but as democrats focus their message on abortion, there was simply last time to talk about other issues. some of which were really good for democrats. because over the course of that same summer, democrats managed to pull of a historic legislative suite, causing broadly popular policies such as lowering the price of prescription drugs, passing the biggest veterans health care and u.s. history, allowing people to buy prescription hearing aids over the counter. the first major gun safety legislation in decades, and that was all on top of other major victories they had past the previous year such as covid relief, in terms of checks for millions of americans, and a major investment in our nation 's infrastructure. but, in the last several months, all that stuff has effectively been on the backburner. according to a new analysis by the washington post, democrats have spent more than 100

million dollars on abortion ad since labor day, compared to just 28 million on other health care issues, and just $20 million on ads about jobs. and so, here we are, and man is this election going to be a nail-biter. the current polling averages shows senate races in georgia, pennsylvania, new hampshire, north carolina, wisconsin, nevada, ohio, and arizona, all within four points. which, in a lot of cases is the margin of error. the parties are going to be battling it out for every single vote. so, in the closing weeks of this election, republicans are sharpening their message, and they're using everything in their arsenal. yes, they are going after democrats on the economy and inflation and, surprise, they're hitting democrats on crime! the very same issue democrats were worried about after that san francisco recall back in early june. republicans are focused on urban crime, and they're pushing racially focused messages to scare voters into thinking that democrats want to turn the country into a scene out of mad max. that same analysis found that republicans have spent nearly

$50 million on ads focused on crime since labor day, making it one of their top issues nationally. here is how that issue played out in tonight's debates. >> john fetterman, during this crime wave, has been trying to get as many murderers convicted and sentenced to life in prison out of jail as possible. >> i'm running to take back our streets, and to support unapologetically our men and women in law enforcement. people who are afraid of being pushed in front of subway cars, they've been stabbed, beaten to death on streets with hammers. >> that was a comment from leaves, a republican who's within four points of kathy hochul in a state, new york elected a republican as governor and over two decades. this is the kind of republican strategy that democrats thought they would be facing, back when the san francisco da lost his recall election, which now seems like it happened approximately two lifetimes ago. but now with two weeks left,

the question is, do democrats have enough time to counter that republican message, and remind regular americans, voters of all stripes, about the pretty major things they have accomplished, in the past two years? joining me now at the big board, where he lives, is msnbc national political correspondent steve kornacki. steve, it seems like -- chris hayes, my friend and colleague used the phrase, jump ball to decide what might happen on november 8th. how is it looking atthe senate races we just talked about, and what can you tell us about how quickly they have tightened in these closing weeks of the race? >> some of them have tightened dramatically, including that pennsylvania race for that debate obviously played out tonight. let's take a look at the poll average on the left, you see this is the democrats are defending on the right. you see the seats that republicans are defending. and right away, you see the significance to democrats, how crucial that pennsylvania race is, because if you look at this, way there is one democratic seat right now, it's in nevada where the republican, adam

laxalt, actually leads in the poll average, close, but he does leave. and if it laxalt was to win there, they'll be republican gain. republicans need a net gain of one seat and they get the senate. so, the function of pennsylvania right now for democrats is, if fetterman, who leads in the polling average by just over a point hangs on, it would basically cancel out a loss in nevada, and allow democrats to keep the senate. it's the only republican held seat, pennsylvania where democrats now lead the poll average. but you talk about tightening, you see 1. 3 is the federally right now, over the summer it was 8. 7, so it's come all the way down from nearly nine, to barely a point. so democrats getting very jittery, i think, about their chances of fetterman hanging on there in pennsylvania. that raises a question for democrats, if it's not pennsylvania, is there a another republican seat on this board that they can pick off. take a look, second closest, it's ohio. republican seat j. d. vance is leading, but that's close, it's two points on average. here is the skepticism, i think,

that republicans and many democrats have when it comes to ohio. we talked so much about polling misses in recent elections. the polling misses have really been centered in the midwest, particularly ohio. here is the final poll average in ohio, in 16 and in 20. remember, democrats winning the election day here, both think they could really win ohio. here's what happened, trump didn't just win, he won big. some of the biggest polling, two straight elections. and by the, way the 2018 midterms, the governor's race there is a polling issue there as well. the polls have overestimated democratic support in ohio, in recent elections, so there's some thought of hey, have they really figure this out in a state like ohio? is a j. d. vance lead of two turn out to be something more, we will see, that's the skepticism that some have won a look at that number. so again, if you're a democrat, and you're looking for a republican seat that he could pick off here, what about wisconsin? regeneron johnson, he's a two term incumbent leading by about two and a half points in the polls right here. interestingly, johnson was

losing in the polls in wisconsin over the summer, and now leaves. what explains that change? emphasis on crime. john his senate has really played up crime, his opponent has really leaned on the abortion message. here's a poll from marquette law, they basically ask are these issues important to you? and this was a significant finding. nearly 90% said that crime is an important issue to them. abortion it was just about ten points left. so there is a difference there in terms of residents of these two issues. crime, which johnson is running hard on, and abortion, which barnes is running hard on, that might explain the switch that we've seen in that race, that has put johnson ahead. so we return to those averages, again, democrats really want to win at least one of these republican held seats right now, if you take a look at the target list for republicans then. if democrats are winning one here, and republicans only get nevada, democrats hold the senate. the name of the game for them

democrats, then, would be hold everything else. and that's where georgia comes into play, because look how close that warnock walker race is gone. on average, a half point lead for warnock. there's a possibility in georgia, if nobody gets 50% on election day, they go to a runoff, possible the senate could be decided in a runoff. here is where i think georgia kind of hinges on. right now, if you look at the governor's race in georgia, the governor brian kemp is over 50%, and pretty comfortably ahead of his democratic opponent stacey abrams. kemp is running well ahead of walker. there is a voter in georgia, it seems to be a suburban voter, it tends to be, that doesn't really like biden, doesn't really like the democrats, but also doesn't like donald trump. and remember, trump went to political war with brian kemp, earlier this year, tried to take him out as governor. kemp survived, and probably made him okay in that voters book. walker much more closely aligned with donald trump, certainly than kemp's, and i

think that might explain some of the hesitancy of those types of voters to get behind walker. question for the final weeks of this campaign, basically is, do those kemp voters reluctantly, at the end of the day, that gap, two they reluctantly vote for walker and put him over the top? or, is there a split ticket, there in georgia, democrat chances for the senate may hinge on that. >> also interesting that warnock have been sort of pursuing different strategies, and you are seeing those diverse strategies borne out in the numbers. steve kornacki, thanks to you as always. be sure to listen to steve's brand-new podcast, the revolution with steve kornacki. i love the idea of him leading the revolution. it's the story of the republican takeover of congress in 1994, now steve kornacki's personal revolution, i always thought podcast to. now, i want to turn to dan pfeiffer, former senior adviser to president obama, and now a co-host of a little thing called pod save america. dan, it's always -- i need all the help to understand what is happening here, my friend. i want to get right to this

kind of bigger changed strategy the democrats have pursued through the year. i wanted everybody to remind--we needed to collectively remind ourselves of what was happening in june, and the ways we thought this election would be litigated, and how that changed after dobbs. and now we've sort of seem to be in a gray space between dobbs, and the joint june 7th recall of jason bourdain, what do you make of the democratic strategy so far, and what has to happen in the closing two weeks, here? >> sure, if you go back to earlier this year, when democrats always wanted this to be about, a referendum on republican extremism. that's why it's so important they focus on dobbs, on republicans taking away personal freedoms, attacking marriage equality, bullying, gay and trans kids, book bans, all of that. and here we are now in this last phase. economic pessimism has picked up in recent weeks, gas prices

have gone down of a summer. will people still tell pollsters they think they are paying more for gas. >> you've seen this in a lot of, races and you see president biden say, this is the argument that at what we can star extremists, and apply it to economic issues, as a way to just disqualify them as people who would fight for them and deal with medicare and cut taxes for the wealthy. we are building on the extremist argument, we're not making a last minute panic pivot. >> i guess i wonder if you think the democratic candidates at large, have they counted their achievements of, given that -- relevance are going hard on this, message of working hard americans and the biden administration and democrats income gross, have a really compelling argument to make about the concrete steps they've taken to help people who are working class americans.

>> i think, in this environment, it would be a historic mistake to simply tought your achievements. to say, yes you are feeling economic pain, your costs have gone up. look at this bill we passed that is reducing inflation, that is out of touch. the right way to talk about our impoverishment, proof of what we are going to do in the future. but campaigns to look back with and look forward. it's a present by do this on friday, as i say we took on the pharmaceutical companies. we took on the big oil companies we are raising but taxes on corporations in order to help lower costs. that's why you can trust us to fight for you, to deal with higher costs. you can't trust people who want to give tax cuts to big oil, you can't trust people want to give tax cuts to wall street,

banks, to fight for you, it's proof of what you're gonna do going forward, not asking for a pat on the back for what you did. i think that is the pivot here. the president has laid that out in a couple of speeches, and i hope a lot of democrats will follow that. >> i want to ask you about crime, because that seems to be, of all of the issues, the glittery object that republicans are most intent on making the centerpiece of their closing argument here. we heard it a number of times in key senate debates, this evening. and yet, if you look at the statistics, and i don't know why this isn't on a mug somewhere, as a fundraising tool. the top five states with the highest homicide mortality rates are all red states. mississippi, louisiana, alabama, missouri, arkansas. how are democrats making defense on this? how is this not a stat mentioned every single time republicans want to talk about crime? >> well, this has been the republicans, this is their break issue in every election, it goes back to 1988, they did against barack obama, trump tried in 2020.

of course they are doing it here. and as you said in the opening, crime is the topic, but it's a proxy for race. there's a lot of racially coded language, here a lot of it is pretty explicitly racist. the way democrats should handle this, and the fetterman campaign is done really well. to take it, on to stake what you are. for his state that you have fought crime in your previous job, you will fund responsible, accountable policing, and then what you do is you pivot, because the trap in all these things is something the president obama used to say, if you don't play the game, you call out their game. now talk about why they are trying to use crime to scare you, to distract from their extremist agenda, they want to infringe on your personal freedoms. cut your medicare, cut taxes for corporations. don't let them incorrectly frame democrats as being soft on crime, call them out. in some states, as you point out, you can do that very aggressively against republicans, who have overseen steep increases in crime over

the last couple years. >> i mean, just put it on a mug. carry it around with you on the campaign trail. dan, what do you make of the numbers, in terms of voters of color, who are key parts of the democratic coalition? specifically, black voters, hispanic voters, we have news polling, basically, that democratic leads with hispanic voters are smaller than they were in 2018, and there's less enthusiasm among black voters, specifically black male voters leading into this year's midterms. do you see that as cause for concern, i feel like there's two schools of thought here, yet the one is yes it's cause for concern, and the other one is democrats are always freaking out about this before every election, and it never comes to pass. where do you stand on it? >> my philosophy since the 2016 election, it is worry about everything, panic about nothing. because i'm gonna file this under that category of worry about it. we have to take it very seriously. we have seen in 2020, the

democrats did worse with this core group of voters, then we had in previous years, we had to watch very carefully--so what we need to focus on is not why these voters not supporting house it's how do we go to get their support, how do we organize in their community? how do we talk to them about why voting for democrat matters? why not republicans. we have to persuade them. because i think, for too long, too many democrats have considered black voters, latino voters, young voters, to be a get out the vote, if we just tell them an election is happening, we need to persuade them. punished talk about swing voters, we need to go to make a case for them, there are some campaigns that are doing very well here. we have to see what the actual numbers are in this election. because as steve pointed out, in the previous section, we don't know if these polls are right or not, so let's go make the case, let's persuade them, let's turn them out, let's see what happens on november 8th. >> we have two weeks to go, dan, is not long enough to persuade

anybody, at this stage? >> absolutely, especially now where people can vote right in the moment in which we will talk to them, and a lot of set the states. the clock is ticking for sure, and a brother be up in these possibly incorrect pulls in the long two states, and believing in all the races. but there are still time in all these races, for all the panic in the streets, for all the chest something from republicans, these races are ending up where they are always gonna end up. they are taking places where biden won by less than a point in 2020. they were going to be quite, flips whether the queen said of john fetterman was up by ten, are now is up by 1.3, they are always going to be incredibly close. that's where we are, and all this love to do ignore the polls and get the work done over next couple of weeks. let's see what we can do. >> the general master of yeah, yet i master american politics, dan pfeiffer, taking us all off the ledge back into the living room, sanity rules, former senior adviser to president biden, now the co-host of pod

save america, thank you for taking the time. >> thank you. >> we have much more to come tonight, just two weeks from election day, i'll say it over and over again. next, we turn our focus to pennsylvania, and tonight's fetterman oz debate. rebecca tracer wrote the definitive profile of john fetterman, and she joins us next. coming up, the bonkers election deniers who might just end up running an election near you. plus, doctor anthony fauci joins us live, that's next, coming up. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ this is the sound of better breathing. fasenra is an add-on treatment for asthma driven by eosinophils. it helps prevent asthma attacks, improve breathing, and lower use of oral steroids. fasenra is not a rescue medication or for other eosinophilic conditions. fasenra may cause allergic reactions. get help right away if you have swelling of your face, mouth and tongue, or trouble breathing. don't stop your asthma treatments unless your doctor tells you to. tell your doctor if you have a parasitic infection or your asthma worsens. headache and sore throat may occur. ask your doctor about fasenra.

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elephant in the room. i had a stroke! he's never let me forget that! and i might miss some words during this debate, motion two words together, it will knock me down, and i will keep coming back up. this campaign for me is all about fighting for everyone in pennsylvania, that ever got knocked down. that needs to get back up and fighting for all forgotten communities, all across pennsylvania, that also got knocked down. >> that was democratic senate candidate, john fetterman, addressing a stroke in the first and only debate in pennsylvania's insanely high stakes senate race. the latest polling shows just how race this has become. he leads mehmet oz by two points, which is well within the margin of error. just a month ago, fetterman was leading by five points. besides his health, the debate touched on many key issues that

have mobilized voters nationwide. including abortion. >> i want women, doctors, local political leaders, letting the democracy so states can decide for themselves. contrast that with my opponent, john fetterman, who on this debate stage said that he would demand federally mandated rules for all states, they have to follow, that would allow abortion at 38 weeks. >> i want to look into the face of every woman in pennsylvania, you know, if you believe that the choice of your reproductive freedom belongs with doctor oz, they have a choice to an abortion, but if you believe that the choice for abortion belongs between you and your doctor, that's what i fight for. roe v. wade, for me, should be the law. he celebrated when roe v. wade went down and my campaign would fight for roe v. wade, and if given the opportunity to codify it into law. >> fetterman also struck back a doctor oz for using senator bernie sanders as a point of

attack against fetterman during his campaign. >> he keeps talking about bernie sanders. you know, three years ago he was on his show, and he hugged him, and said i love this guy! you know, why don't you pretend that you live in vermont instead of pennsylvania and run against bernie sanders? my truth is that it's a fundamental, right and i believe that expanding that! i believe in support fighting for health care! the kind of health care that saved my life! >> joining us now is rebecca tracer, writer at large for them new york magazine, who's been reporting on john fetterman's senate campaign, it's great to see you tonight, thanks for joining us tonight. >> thank you for having me, alex. >> so, i want to know what you thought of this debate. one of the things, you have such a thoughtful and incisive way of kind of presenting how fetterman is trying to work through these health issues in the context of running, probably the highest stakes senate campaign in the country.

one of the things you pause it in your article is at fetterman's campaign is hoping to turn his sort of vulnerability into a asset here. do you think he did so on the debate stage tonight? >> i think it's tough to say whether or not it will wind up being an asset with voters. but, it was certainly an example of such remarkable transparency. the opposite of what the odds campaign has sort of asserted, which is that he's somehow hiding something about his health. showing up for an hour debate and starting out and saying he was going to talk about the elephant in the room, he played the clip, and he said i'm gonna miss words. and you can tell, i wrote in my story about on my interview with him, there's a moment where he became frustrated and stressed out, and it made some of his communicative problems worse. and i think that this context, which you described, is the insanely high stakes of this election, the single debate. clearly, this was a candidate

who is feeling stress, and there is such intense ableist scrutiny, on how he was able to communicate, and he just did a debate in front of the nation, an audience of anyone who can listen, and was so transparent. he did fumble, he did make verbal mistakes, and it was all on view, and i cannot predict whether that will help him or not. i know from my reporting, that i was doing over the past 6 to 7 weeks, that voters were responding to his public appearances, to his rally appearances, to his speeches, to the fact that he was doing speeches, here several weeks ago. very warmly, how will that come up, how will that follow this debate, i cannot predict, but you know i think it's also really interesting, you played a lot of, clips there are moments where he was really strong, including that bernie sanders clip, including his very fluent and direct response from raising the minimum wage, i thought was a really strong

moment for him. he had some really strong comebacks, and his opponent, oz. first of all, he also fumbled, i fumble on television, right? >> i definitely fumble on television-- >> he was hesitant at first to. yeah, it happens? but oz, also, was really slippery in his presentation and in terms of his presentation. i was sort of bowled over by how frequently and fluently oz lied, or refused to answer, and gave answers that i thought were just terrible. the one that you played about abortion, was one of them. where he said that the decision should be made between women, doctors, and their local elected officials. i mean that is just a terrible thing to say. >> and yet, some people are gonna think, oh, oz is bucking party orthodoxy by suggesting he's not gonna vote for a federal ban on abortion.

aka, lindsey graham's 15-week federal abortion ban, what did you think of that part of it? >> i thought that was also a little slippery. because like many things, he actually refused to say, on this day i would vote against lindsey graham, he wouldn't give them that solidity of an opinion. so he did say, he would not support federal legislation on abortion. but i thought it was really interesting, the line that actually jumped out on me, more than the one you just played that we talked about, is he actually invoked his role as doctor. there's another clip from the debate that is worth looking at where he says, as a doctor, he's really offended that we would interfere with the states right to decide about abortion. and he said, he actually used he didn't say, as someone who really believes and states rights i would never. he said, as a doctor, i would never interfere with the individual states ability to govern, whether or not a person can have access to a safe abortion. it was sort of a wild juxtaposition of his medical

experience with a deep belief and every individual states right -- >> usually, a state is not involved in the decisions made between the patient and his or her doctor, therefore the statement-- >> he had a weird medical practice, apparently. >> one more, rebecca, the crime piece. you bring up fetterman's background which a lot of people don't really understand vis-à-vis crime. and the ways in which oz is trying to tether federer men's vulnerabilities to also being soft on crime. do you think that is any more an effective line of attack, given what we know of fetterman 's background, and the person he is, just sort of category is not as a weak person. no matter what his recovery process looks like, the man does not look enfeebled. >> he doesn't, and actually, it's very interesting, because i was thinking about that tonight. so much of the initial attack that i was made on fetterman, about crime, has to do with his work on the pearl clemency board, and granting clemency, including to two brothers who work on his campaign now, who are wrongly convicted and served 27 years for murder that they did not commit. and it has nothing to do with, sort of crime statistics around the country, it is truly a bait and switch argument that is rooted in a lie.

fetterman, himself, has actually been very friendly, and pro police, i think more pro police than a lot of progressives would like him to be. but it is also true, that we know that a right-wing, no matter how dishonest, and no matter how sort of morally corrupt, and falls right wing attacks on democrats, which are always racially coded, and often gendered to. softness, weakness, right? this stuff is resonant. people reach for those kinds of weapons because they are effective, in a country that response to racism, and to sexism, as communicative tools to take down a candidate. fetterman, is such an interesting candidate, in part because it's very hard to imagine using this kind of racist incite sexist language against him. but, you know, i think we have to see, i think his response is tonight on crime we are pretty communicative really effective. but this is very sweet candy that republicans are selling to a country that is so deeply belt and a attuned to messages that are fundamentally massage in a stick and racist in nature. >> i would say candy with the poison center. rebecca tracer, writer at large

for new york magazine, rebecca, thank you for making time with us tonight. >> thanks so much for having me, alex. >> still ahead, 2020 election deniers are on the ballot next but, you know, i think we have to see, i think his response is tonight on crime we are pretty communicative really effective. but this is very sweet candy that republicans are selling to a country that is so deeply buit and a attuned to messages that are fundamentally massage in a stick and racist in nature. >> i would say candy with the poison center. rebecca traceter, writer at large for new york magazine, rebecca, thank you for making time with us tonight. >> thanks so much for having me, alex.

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claiming they have seen a rise of misinformation, leading up to the november election. >> that was a republican candidate for michigan secretary of state, christine -- almost today. now, where could the rise in misinformation about elections in michigan, where could not be coming from? i'm glad christina caramel asked. here she is again today trying to make a video of election workers suspicious, but no evidence, and without any legitimate reason. >> in this video, you see an unmarked suv arrive at a drop box, at a voting center. a young man can be seen unloading large stacks of ballots from the dropbox, while an elderly woman retrieves a large black garbage bag from the back of a vehicle. she snaps it open, walks it over to the worker, who perceives to stuff the garbage bag with absentee ballots. >> at no point in this video, does she point to any evidence of anything, she narrates a video of election workers doing their job like it's a true

crime documentary-- that video today is part of a series of 18, if this was your friends mom on facebook putting out these videos i will be one thing, and maybe you say that friend of yours is kind of weird, but this is a person who is running to be secretary of state. kristine karamo is running to be put in charge of elections in the state of michigan, and it is starting to look like she can actually win. according to new reporting by cnn, kristina karamo is only four points behind jocelyn benson. and that is within the margin of error. what makes that all the more concerning, is that karamo is not alone, now there are four 2020 election deniers, all of them republicans, with a real chance of winning their secretary of state races. in arizona, the 2020 election denier mark finchem is more than a point ahead of his democratic opponent adrian fontes. and in that nevada, the election denier jim marchant is

up by eight points, which is well beyond the margin of error. i should remark that he has gone so far, that he's now alleging that nancy pelosi and adam schiff some how stole their elections, for real. >> these politicians keep winning reelection. how is that possible? it's not. tim marchand is the fighter nevada needs. this is stuff that republicans are saying out loud as part of a strategy. and all three of those election deniers, karamo, finnstrom, and -- and have been endorsed by president trump. the other election denier who might actually win her secretary of state races, is minnesota republican kim crockett, the latest polls have her trailing her democratic opponent steve simon by a full ten points, but today, two weeks before the election, she finally got her trump endorsement. that could mean for election denying trump supporters in charge of running key purple state elections, by the time trump himself is potentially back on the ballot in 2024. which, is concerning.

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president biden received his latest booster, the bivalent booster, the one that is more effective against the omicron variant of covid-19. the president used the event to urge americans to protect themselves against covid as winter draws near. biden made a point at the end of his speech to plead with republicans, asking them to essentially quit it with the misinformation about covid. ending their anti-vaxxer save and ceasing their attacks on dr. anthony fauci would be helpful on the number of public health fronts, but the reality of where republicans are on this issue is quite stark. >> i want to lock somebody down. and it is that liar, dr. fauci! >> i am just sick of seeing him. i know he says he's going to retire. someone needs to grab that little elf and chuck him across the potomac. >> --

the bottom line with anthony fauci and a lot of his underlings, they were running amok as unelected bureaucrats. they were finding the very same people who cooked up the covid-19 virus. and fauci must be held accountable for that. >> dr. fauci, retirement or not, is going to be spending a lot of time in front of a congressional committee and committees if republicans take back control. >> anthony fauci and all these other folks we are going to subpoena, they better put them in jail as well. >> we are over two and a half years in to this pandemic, and the threats against dr. fauci, the face of the governments -- response to covid-19, those threats are at full tilt, as hundreds of americans are still dying from the disease every day, and officials worry about the triple damac of the flu, covid and rsv -- the respiratory virus that has pediatric hospitals across the country on the brink -- as that is all happening, republicans would instead like you to look away and lock up dr. fauci. joining us now is dr. anthony fauci, director of the national

institute of allergy and infectious diseases and chief medical adviser to president biden. dr. fauci, thank you so much for being here. i'm sorry you have to hear this. i'm sure it is not the first time you have heard some of these outrageous insults. what is it like to be at the center of what is a concerted campaign to target you as somehow responsible for covid or the federal government overreach or just a face of the looming destruction of america? why do you think this is happening. >> i think it is pretty obvious, alex. it's purely politically motivated. they are running on that. they are raising campaign money. they pick out a bogeyman who they feel represents the antithesis of what they want. and if you look at what i have been doing, focusing like a laser for almost now three years, it is to protect the health and safety of the american public by getting people vaccinating, by having them practice good public health practices.

they construe that as somehow or other being an encroachment upon their freedom, when we know things like vaccines have already saved millions of lives. and yet, when you talk about getting vaccinated and encouraging people to get vaccinated, or when you have a very high level of virus in the community, to encourage people to wear masks, which are well-known to protect you from getting infected. they make that a political issue. so, nobody likes to see that kind of thing said about you. but i don't pay hardly any attention to that. and i just focus on my job, which is to make sure we ensure the health of the american public. if they want to play political games, and almost become ludicrous, they are so preposterous. i think anybody that pays attention to it, that thinks about it and gives it some thought, realizes, a, it's

politically motivated, and, b so ridiculous, it is almost ludicrous. >> i understand what you are saying, but it seems like these dark forces of racism and antisemitism and anti-vax and arch conservative ideology are folding into themselves around this covid issue. i think this past weekend, beverly hills police in california had to look into antisemitic flyers that were distributed around beverly hills, listing cdc officials who have jewish last names saying, every single aspect of the covid agenda is jewish. that worries me as an american citizen, that worries me as someone who believes in the work you have been doing, and sees it as essential to public health. does it worry you? and does it concern you that this vitriol has grown and has reached tentacles into other poisonous areas of american politics? >> i think you have a very

important point there alex. that has worried me much, much more so and then personal attacks on me. it is the things you brought out there, the complete denial of reality. the normalization of untruths, where there is so much lying going on over there that people accept it as being part of the norm. and i think, if anybody looks at history, and finds out and examines when you distort reality and keep lying over and over again, after a while you get a lot of people believing it. and that is the beginning, i believe, of the destruction of our democracy. so, it is less an attack on me or my jewish colleagues at the cdc, that they are attacking. it is really, in my mind, an affront on our democracy. it is the same mindset that says the president didn't win the election, even though every

single examination proved that he did. when they say that january 6th did not exist and was a friendly visit to the gift shop at the capitol, that kind of mentality to me is a danger to democracy. >> let me just ask you about the work on hand at our doorstep, which is getting people vaccinated with this bivalent booster. not only does it seem essential for the winter. it's also about closing off avenues to let this virus mutate even further, is it not? >> yes. it is a combination of personal protection, to protect the individual, but to also to blunt the capability of the virus, if you let it freely replicate -- viruses don't mutate unless they freely replicate. and if you prevent them, to any degree, from freely replicating -- and by replicating i mean going from person to person and essentially infecting a lot of people --

you diminished greatly their capability of mutating. and if you don't allow them to mutate regularly, then the fact is, you will vary and i'm likely get more variants. variance are the results, of some of the mutations, that ultimately effect in some of the -- and leads to a variant. >> doctor anthony fauci, quite literally fighting the good fight. director of the national institute of allergy and infectious diseases and chief medical adviser to president biden. thank you so much, dr. fauci. we will be right back. suffer like that. i started cosentyx®. five years clear. real people with psoriasis look and feel better with cosentyx. don't use if you're allergic to cosentyx. before starting get checked for tuberculosis. an increased risk of infection, some serious and a lowered ability to fight them may occur. tell your doctor about an infection or symptoms or if you had a vaccine or plan to. tell your doctor if your crohn's disease symptoms develop or worsen. serious allergic reaction may occur. best move i've ever made. ask your dermatologist about cosentyx®.

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