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polls. jose? >> shaquille brewster, i thank you so much. and that wrapping up the hour for me. i'm jose diaz-balart. you can always reach me on twitter and instagram at jdbalart. and please follow the show online. thank you for the privilege of your time. andrea mitchell picks up with more news right now. right now on a special two-hour edition of "andrea mitchell reports," live in pittsburgh in what could be the senate race that decides the balance of power in washington. democratic candidate john fetterman held his only debate with trump-backed celebrity tv doctor mehmet oz and gave a faltering performance without releasing his medical records after a stroke five months ago. >> again, my doctor believes
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that i'm fit to be serving and that's what i believe is where i'm standing. >> democrats are seizing on dr. oz already on defense for criticism of discredited theories he promoted on television saying this when asked whether aside from exceptions should abortion be banned in america. >> i've been in the room when there's some difficult conversations happening. i don't want the federal government involved with that at all. i want women, doctors, local political leaders leading the democracy that's allowed our nation to thrive to put the best ideas forward so states can decide for themselves. >> we'll get reaction here as well as reports from other key contests across the nation. and we'll take a closer look at threats to election workers undermining access to the vote and election security in georgia, two years after former president trump tried to change the 2020 results.
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good day, everyone. i'm andrea mitchell here in pittsburgh and the big question in pennsylvania this morning, how big an impact will last night's debate between john fetterman and trump-backed republican mehmet oz have on the election. joining me now is dasha burns in harrisburg where the debate was held, jonathan tamari, jim messina, former white house deputy chief of staff and campaign manager for obama's 2012 re-election campaign, and doug heye, former communications director for the republican national committee. dasha, you've been covering the campaign so closely. you've had key interviews with both candidates. fetterman's performance being scrutinized but so is the answer that dr. oz gave on abortion. and the format, the 15 seconds for rebuttals, for instance, format that some would say
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fetterman's campaign should never have agreed to. what does all this mean, though, for the race? what are voters saying to you? i know what they're saying here in pittsburgh. >> reporter: yeah, andrea, there is a lot to digest from last night both in terms of circumstance and substance. look, ahead of this debate, the fetterman campaign tried to manage expectations, acknowledging that this isn't his format, that he is still struggling with some of the lingers aftereffects of the stroke and the closed captioning that's necessary because of his auditory processing issues and some of the speech challenges that he acknowledged at the outset of the debate as well. i'll tell you in the spin room afterwards and talking to media, the fetterman campaign, neither campaign came out to talk to media. the fetterman spokesperson said they were thrilled with his performance. that they believe he won in multiple exchanges with oz. i'll say, though, the aftermath
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is a little bit of a different narrative from both democrats and republicans that do seem to be concerned with fetterman's health. i'll say, though, on the campaign trail and in the debate last night, one thing that fetterman has tried to do with his stroke is use it to relate to everyday pennsylvania voters, often asking at his rallies, you know, who here has had a health issue in the past who recollects has had a family member with a health issue. i want you to hear a little bit of the exchange last night on fetterman's health. listen. >>. >> let's talk about the elephant in the room. i've had a stroke. he's never let me forget that. i might miss some words during this debate, but it knocked me down, i'm going to keep coming back up. >> i visited vocational schools, i wasn't clear enough for you to understand this -- >> reporter: and, andrea, in a
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few moments, he struggled to articulate his position on fracking. in another major moment, his opponent seemed to say that the abortion decision should be between -- you played the sound earlier, between a woman, her doctor and local, political leaders and i think, andrea, we're going to see that in a lot of democratic ads. in fact, the fetterman campaign just in the last half-hour announcing they've released an ad focusing on that specific moment from the debate. oz also leaving room for criticism on the democratic side as well. >> thank you so much. jonathan, let's talk about how pennsylvania voters, especially blue-collar working-class voters feel about john fetterman. how his recovery is impacting his communication, but pennsylvanians know john fetterman, does that work on his behalf? >> i think, you know, it's been
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so early since this debate happened that i don't know how we gauge how significant the impact is going to be. i think a lot of times, people like us who follow politics might have a certain reaction. there's concern within political circles of how the night looked for fetterman. it was kind of the first time that voters might get a chance to look at him live, taking questions. he has taken questions before, but not in quite -- on quite such a big stage and intense environment. i think there's some concern given that the race was already trending tighter and tighter, that this could work against him. democrats think they got some significant ammunition in oz's comment on abortion. but we knew where oz stood on abortion. he didn't quite articulate it that way. i think what was new last night, you're seeing fetterman live on his feet and as dasha mentioned, he's done other events where he's been more fluent. he had a bad night on a very big
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night for the campaign. >> yeah, and, jim messina, what about democrats, the white house and other democrats could be arguing -- i talked to a couple of people, they never should have agreed to this debate because he is using the assistance of that closed captioning and it takes a few seconds for that to roll and with a 15-second rebuttal, it doesn't roll in time. technically, he's just not able to read it -- no one could have read that in time to then formulate an answer. it's not cognitive. but it's just the impediment of that and the fact that the format was just too rapid -- rapid fire. >> you know, look, i understand why they agreed to the debate. i wouldn't have. i would have skipped it and taken my appeal right to the voters. but i understand why they did it. they wanted to get rid of this question and say, look, we've done it, let's go on.
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i thought the format was ridiculous and different favor him. i think what we have here at the end is fetterman lost the battle last night but may have won the war. let's look at who is still undecided in this race, it's mostly suburban women who are undecided in this race, and that, quote, that oz gave them about local political leaders deciding on a woman's right to choose is going to haunt them for the next 13 days. i'm not surprised if i was the fetterman campaign, i would dump every single nickel i had on television with that quote. it's out of touch and these swing women voters really are the voters you have to have. a reminder that swing voters didn't watch this debate last night. they're getting their coverage from you and everyone else in the media. and they're going to see the tv ads. and that tv ad is going to come back to haunt dr. oz. >> we already have an ad that they cut overnight with that and i want to play that for you, doug heye. i know that republicans are
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pouring money, millions of dollars into this campaign now. it's going to be the battle of the dollar on tv. take a look at this ad that was cut overnight. >> this is who dr. oz wants in charge of women's health care decisions. >> i want women, doctors, local, political leaders -- local political leaders -- local political leaders -- >> oz would let politicians ban abortion without exceptions. >> so, doug, you know, all things being equal, that is a damaging ad. >> it is, and it was a bad answer. i don't think that's really -- what it does with that ad -- is it ties dr. oz to doug mastriano. republicans are going to try and reframe this is with the words that we've already heard from dasha earlier, the word
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struggle. the questions that democrats are asking right now is whether or not dr. oz should serve in the united states senate. okay, a fair question. the questions about dr. -- about john fetterman that republicans are asking, i think a lots of voters as they see the footage of fetterman is whether or not he can serve. these are legitimate questions about whether or not he's able to do so. and fetterman could put some of this to rest by being on "meet the press" this sunday and used the closed captioning system. but my bet is, you're not going to see john fetterman in a sit-down interview situation. >> i would argue for him to come on "meet the press" for sure or any of our other programs to do that kind of interview where he has time to frame an answer and has time for the closed captioning to work for him, technically. dr. oz was so much more polished, but if you drill down on his answers, his answers on
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the economy, on a lot of other questions, his avoidance of answers which caused him some big problems in the last couple of years, and other of those remedies that he had pushed on tv where the -- the columbia university faculty called him a quack and tried to get him out and took a vote against him. there's a lot there that didn't get raised d you agree the campaign or didn't get addressed during the campaign. >> yeah, and this has been a major complaint from the fetterman campaign throughout is that he has not directly answered his positions on a number of issues he could be voting on. he was asked about the lindsey graham bill that would ban abortion after 15 weeks nationwide and he said he thinks that, you know, it should be up to the states. he was asked, does that mean
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you're a yes or no, he wouldn't say. he kept saying it should be up to the states. he didn't say how he would have voted on the bipartisan gun bill that was signed this past summer. he's not really defined himself -- he tried last night to define himself as the centrist, but he left his policy positions rather vague. i think that he's content to do that and try to make this election about fetterman and make the election about democrats and joe biden and inflation. but he's leaving a lot of open questions about what he would actually proactively do as a senator rather than just what he's against. >> jonathan tamari, thank you so much, thanks to all. coming up, more on this key showdown in the keystone state. i'll talk to pennsylvania congressman mike doyle about how last night's debate might change the electoral landscape here. he represents this area. >> that wasn't the only debate
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here in pennsylvania, both parties are pouring more money into the tight senate race. several other contests could decide which party controls congress including wisconsin and colorado with michael bennet and joe oday squared off last night. glenn youngkin is come paging alongside tim michels. garrett haake is in colorado and shaq brewster joins me from wisconsin. talk about the big moments last
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night, what are voters learning about these two candidates? the republican has taken stood back from donald trump. >> yes, he has -- >> challenging kind of republican -- >> reporter: well, that's the theory of the case here for republicans in this state. they believe that joe oday who voted for donald trump twice but says he wouldn't again, colorado republicans think that's the antidote to a state where they have not done well. joe biden won this state by 14 points back in 2020. last night's debate might have happened in a different political universe than the one you've been covering in pennsylvania. there were debates about immigration policy, afghanistan, water rights on the colorado river but the debate came back to the issue that's been the issue through the whole
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campaign, economy and inflation. he tried hard to link michael bennet and joe biden as the cause of inflation and bennet pushed back. but when i talk to voters, that does seem to be the key issue on people's minds, just the cost of living and there's something of a mentality even if you like your guy among the voters i've been talking to here, here's what i've heard on the western slope. >> what do you think of the job that the democrats are doing in washington? >> absolutely horrible. the country is going to crap because of it. something needs to change. that's for sure. >> okay with bennet. i've met him. it's been awhile. i think he's going to do an okay job for us. but, you know, there's not a lot more i can commit to -- >> it sounds like the best that you can hope for. >> yeah. >> reporter: and make no mistake, this is a very
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conservative part of the state. i'm in lauren boebert's district. everyone i talk to in both campaigns expects the numbers to tighten, but tighten enough to make this a truly competitive race in its final days, that remains to be seen. there's another debate here on friday night. >> let me ask you a quick follow-up question while i've got you there, garrett, because you cover the senate day in and day out. i covered the senate and house for years. you do it full time now and we have two sitting senators who have had stroke and is are still sitting senators without questions being raised. having watched the debate last night and hearing the fallout over this, how forgiving are voters about these health issues? >> reporter: we're going to find out. neither of the two senators who you're talking about were in
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cycle. luhan had the ability to take his time. he came back on kind of a structured media rollout. he have had sit-down interviews on tape. he didn't do live interviews for awhile and he's not going to have to face the voters again for quite some time. how voters view fetterman's health challenges and recovering from a stroke is going to be the operative question in that race. can you do the job of a senator with that kind of impairment? i think that's been clear that the answer is yes. amy klobuchar who chairs the rules committee campaigned with fetterman over the past weekend and talked on the stump about the kinds of things they could do to make it easier for him to do his job while he recovers. the sort of is it possible is not the question. whether pennsylvania voters want to go down that road is. >> that's exactly the kind of context that your experience can
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give us. thanks for that. wisconsin has a big senate and gubernatorial race. you spent some time with the group hunt the vote. what did they have to say? >> reporter: andrea, they say that they have data that shows of the 700 or so thousand hunters in the state of wisconsin, the majority of them do not vote and have not voted in the past three election cycles. andrea, this is a state where the margin for statewide elections are 20,000 votes. now they're targeting through a digital ad strategy those non-voting hunters. i got a sense of why the folks aren't voting and what they're doing to try to change that. >> i get up in the morning at 4:00 a.m. to sit in the deer stand, it's heaven on earth.
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we just don't think our vote matters. >> it's apathy, shaq, they don't see the value of going out and voting because they're one person or the politicians that they hear on the tv don't match their values and so they just don't see it as a necessary thing to do out and vote. again, we know that there are hundreds of thousands of them, millions of them across the country who aren't voting and sitting out these elections is jeopardizing our lifestyle. >> reporter: you hear the president of the group there mentioning the fact that there are millions of these kind of nonvoters across the country. there are about 15 million registered hunters across the country and that's why they're focusing efforts not just on wisconsin but states like pennsylvania, michigan, georgia, all high hunting population states where they say they believe they can make a difference if they get their folks to turn out. i think it's a sense it's not just conservative groups doing this. we have liberal groups doing this as well. it's a sign that with just two weeks to go until election day, the focus right now is on turning out voters, even those
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who don't typically come out and vote, especially in midterm election years, andrea. >> shaq brewster, garrett haake. thanks so much to you. we're going to go to the white house. >> gas prices in the decade before the pandemic were averaging $3.30 before the pandemic. before i got here. during that pandemic no one was driving so the gas prices went down. but even with historic recovery we're seeing in the economy of 10 million new jobs and unemployment of 3.5%, gas prices are continuing to go down. and because they're going down, we're making serious progress in getting prices goes to what they were before the pandemic. the most common price right now in america is $3.39 a gallon. it's going to come down more. and they're going to come down even further when gas companies, when the oil companies agree to
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our demand, my demand to pass on the savings from the price of a barrel of oil to the pump where it is -- you get -- you'll get charged by the gallon. each year, but each year, these junk fees in addition that companies charge cost america tens of billions of dollars. weighing down family budgets and making it harder for people to pay their bills. so my administration is taking action to eliminate these fees. first, imagine this, your child outgrows his bicycle and you decide to sell it online. and someone pays you a check, pays you $30 for the bicycle or something. days later, that check that you got paid with, that you deposited in your bank, it bounces. you didn't know it was bad, but you get charged 15 bucks. you get charged 15 bucks. it's wrong. it's ridiculous. it's unfair. my administration is making clear today it's illegal as
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well. second, my administration is also making clear surprise overdraft fees are illegal. you all know this, i mean, because you know from your everyday lives. but you pay a bill and you double check your bank account to make sure before you write the check that you have enough in your account to cover it. you've gotten the money so you go ahead and you pay. and it turns out your balance wasn't up to date because your bank was slow in processing other charges. by the time the bank gets around to settling the transaction, you've overdrawn your account. you're charged an overdraft fee that runs around $35 each time. it's not your fault. >> the president focusing on the economy as everyone has said voters are mostly interested in the economy and this is the consumer protection agency which is cracking down on junk fees whereas the president points out you can find deductions in your
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bank account without realizing it and talking about gas prices which we know ron klain thinks is the most important economic indicator that people are following, this ahead of what we're expecting to be another big fed interest rate group boost just next week. so the fight against inflation continuing. all that, of course, the backdrop for the big election that we'll cover here. and next up, the fight for freedom. we're on the ground in ukraine where combat is heating up. plus, intensifying protests in iran today as the u.s. unveils new sanctions against iranian officials for the way they have cracked down on the protestors. you're watching a special edition of "andrea mitchell reports." we're live in pittsburgh, pennsylvania. only on msnbc. gh, pennsylvania only on msnbc. what will you do? ♪ what will you change? ♪ will you make something better? ♪ will you create something entirely new? ♪
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and internet blocks. mahsa amini died in the hospital after being arrest beside i the morality police for dress code violations. this image making the rounds on social media, showing thousands of protestors who showed up at her burial site. this video posted by a human rights organization shows protests at the cemetery where she's buried. look at that crowd. they're noting in their caption that the demonstrators chanted woman, life, freedom. keir simmons joins us now. this is continuing, it's gaining strength. there are credible reports now that i have seen from groups that we have long known in iran about unions getting involved, the oil and gas industry getting involved which those were critical now, joining what had
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been a predominantly women-led protest which is spreading. >> reporter: yeah, and this is the end of the traditional period of mourning, the 40 days, for mahsa amini. it isn't a surprise to see large amounts of crowds gathering in her home crowd. as you rightly say, what is surprising, stunning, frankly, is these continuing protests despite one rights group today saying that live rounds are being fired, tear gas is being used to try to disperse those protestors. just the images that we are seeing emerging from that northern part of iran showing those lines of cars showing once again, female protesters, some not covering their heads, so the protests continue despite the
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crackdown. and global news developing this hour in iran and there, andrea, with the announcement of more than a dozen iranian officials placed on the sanctions blacklist. that announcement including officials from the irgc. the u.s. trying to send a clear message. there will be critics who point out that same administration was negotiating with the iranians earlier this year, trying to find their way to a new nuclear deal. but things are moving fast and changing on the ground in iran, andrea. >> and i think that the nuclear deal is from the white house and state department dead to them. after these protests, there's no way politically or morally that they could negotiate with the iranians. in any case, keir simmons, thank you so much.
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and next up, the voice of the voters. >> inflation has been huge. safety in not only education but regular life. >> i just want to make my best decision because i didn't make the best decision years ago. >> what do you mean by that? >> i voted for the wrong person. >> who did you vote for? >> trump. >> to john fetterman or mehmet oz make a strong case to pennsylvania voters who were watching the debate last night. mike doyle who represents this area joining us next and you're watching a special edition of "andrea mitchell reports" live from pittsburgh. we'll be right back right here on msnbc. right here on msnbc the new subway series menu. the greatest sandwich roster ever assembled. tony, the new outlaw's got double pepper jack and juicy steak. let's get some more analysis on that, chuck. mmm. pepper jack. tender steak. very insightful, guys. the new subway series. what's your pick?
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to kidnap gretchen whitmer. the three are members of the militia group the wolverine watchmen. charges included possession of a weapon while comitting a felony. their sentencing is scheduled for december 15th. 14 men were arrested in october of 2020. one of the big questions after last night's pennsylvania senate debate here will be which issues resonate both with voters. if those issues are going to be drowned out by questions over john fetterman's fitness or dr. oz's substance. joining me now is mike doyle and rich fitzgerald, allegheny county executive. both of you know pennsylvania, you know this area, you know the candidates. we come to you first. congressman doyle? >> people here know john
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fetterman. this is a guy that chose the life of service. he had master's degrees from connecticut, from harvard, could have been in his father's insurance business but he decided to help people. that's what he's done basically his whole career. people know the work he's done here and people support him. >> let me ask you, rich fitzgerald, you're the -- you're the county executive here for the democrats. i want to play a little bit of sound from the debate last night. >> there is that 2018 interview that you said, quote, i don't support fracking at all. how do you square the two? >> i do support fracking and i don't -- i don't -- i support fracking and i stand and i do support fracking. >> so fracking is a big issue in pennsylvania. it's a huge industry here and
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both candidates flipped on their support for fracking. it wasn't clear that that came out in the way that the debate was handled. >> the way that it was set up made it difficult for john because of what he's going through. but he answered the question that he is supportive of industry and i think you've seen a lot of the labor unions, particularly our building trades who it's so important for those folks in that industry that they support john fetterman because he is supportive of the industry. it's important to us. you know, and i thought the way dr. oz didn't answer have many questions i thought was more illuminating than the way john was. >> it's interesting to me because from a national perspective, the media response was, oh, fetterman had these problems and could not articulate, you and i were talking about this, congressman, from the pennsylvania perspective, the union guys know him and you know from your own connections that stroke victims
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have not a comprehension problem, but it's auditory problem. i wondered why they agreed to this debate when the closed captioning couldn't even keep up with them. >> oz is a tv celebrity doctor. john has aphasia and he's fine. my brother works with stroke patients before he retired and john understands everything, he's able to think. it's the processing of what he hears and then to come back and speak. in a 15-second format where you get asked a question and you have 15 seconds to respond, people who are going through what john's going through have trouble doing that. but it doesn't affect his ability to think. his brain is working fine and he'll be fine eventually. that part of his brain is going to heal. people know that. and i think the pauses and some of the things that you saw during the night where somebody didn't understand what aphasia
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was might look strange to them, but this has been well documented here in western pennsylvania and that's not going to be a basis for not voting for john. >> that said, did the fact that he couldn't campaign all during july and august -- actually, from may on, he could not campaign until mid-august. he wasn't showing up. we were talking yesterday, rich fitzgerald, about how you got to show up and people have to see you and know that you care. was he already falling behind because of that? >> certainly it remains to be seen where the voters are going. back to last night, i thought john's answers might not have been as quickly done as slick as dr. oz's, but the answers i think for people in western pennsylvania where he supports roe v. wade, he supports fracking, supports raising the minimum wage, dr. oz, he's a tv celebrity, he knows how to deal on that format, but he wasn't answering the questions that i think most working-class people
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in western pennsylvania wanted to hear. >> and if you look at the state, though, what about the suburbs? what about the -- >> one of the things that are going to resonate there, dr. oz said that abortion should be between a woman, her doctor and local politicians. we all know what that means. the local politicians pass a law and the doctors and the woman have to do whatever law they passed. that's a scary proposition for women, i think, when you think of 50 different states making 50 different laws and i can tell you our neighboring states in ohio and west virginia, a lot of those women are going to be forced to come to pennsylvania, maybe, if the legislatures in those states get the -- make the rules. oz couldn't even say if he would vote for the national abortion ban that lindsey graham sponsored. three times he was asked about that and he didn't give a clear answer. i think especially suburban
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women heard that and i think to me that was one thing that really stood out when oz was talking. >> commissioner, should fetterman be more transparent about releasing the medical records? that's been a standard of campaigns to release your medical records. trump was criticized for having that very strange doctor's letter and they didn't -- they weren't transparent when he first suffered the stroke. that weekend, he didn't come out until sunday. and they came out with a very well produced video. but they really did not acknowledge the -- the severity of his illness in time for them -- for the party, perhaps, to replace him on the ticket. >> it has led to questions and i think the more transparent and the more medical evaluation that could be put out there publicly would make some people feel good. mike's brother works with those folks that have had this issue, there is a time delay and it's going to get better but was it
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going to get better in the next two weeks? that makes it very difficult. the answers, i thought, were what most people wanted to here, but it might not have been as slick on the tv personality on the other side? >> any regrets for not replacing him earlier? >> i don't know if those conversations were had, i'm not sure. >> i don't think that was ever a consideration. i'm pretty well-connected to the party. i've been in office here 28 years. i never heard any talk of replacing john. >> okay. congressman, commissioner, great to see you both. thanks so much. >> thank you. >> thanks for your hospitality in this wonderful city of pittsburgh. >> welcome to pittsburgh. >> it's great. i love being here. next, under pressure as voters are casting their ballots. how is the big lie impacting poll workers critical to ensuring our democratic process. >> after the 2020 election, did you notice a change? >> immediately i noticed a campaign. i had a lot of voters that came
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increasing pressure, growing security and safety issues in states like georgia, after the efforts to overturn the 2020 election, causing many of the volunteers to quit. nbc's blayne alexander joins us from atlanta. what are you hearing from these workers about the pressure and the shortage of election workers? >> reporter: andrea, it's fascinating conversations. the perspective we don't typically hear. election workers are somebody who didn't get a lot of attention. they flew under the radar. all of that changed with the 2020 election. unfortunately because a number of them started receiving threats. we will introduce to you somebody named angie. she has been doing this since 2018. she noticed the change immediately but made it clear despite the criticism on her position, she is not walking away. angie never thought she would become a poll worker. >> i voted as most americans do. i have never been involved in
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the political process. >> reporter: the 2016 election changed all of that. >> after that election happened that i needed to be part of the solution. >> reporter: her solution, training to become a poll manager in fulton county, georgia. people who come to your polls and say, i don't trust this process, what do you want them to know about the work that you do? >> first of all, come join us. take the training. if people would understand the process more, i feel like they would be less fearful that their votes are not secure. >> reporter: angie has worked every election since 2018, but none like georgia's 2021 runoff that gave democrats control of the senate. after the 2020 election, did you notice a change? >> immediately i noticed a change. i had a lot of voters that came in angry, distrustful. >> reporter: election workers were increasingly targeted by conspiracy theories, like this woman and her mother, who also worked in fulton county.
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>> it turned my life upside down. >> reporter: according to the brennan center for justice, one in five election workers say they are unlikely to serve through 2024. one in six have personally experienced threats. angie says she will never forget asking a friend to sign up. >> she said no. she was afraid. i remember she said to me, people will say things to me that they would never say to you. >> reporter: because she's a woman of color in. >> because she's a woman of color. >> reporter: georgia was at the center of trying to overturn the election. >> all gone too far. >> reporter: are you concerned there could be similar threats this time around? >> i'm sure there will be. you have to be aware of it. you can't over prepare for it. >> reporter: did you ever think about walking away? >> never. never. my responsibility is to do
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everything that i can do within my power at that precinct to protect the vote. >> reporter: andrea, a fascinating, eye-opening conversation with her. we have heard a couple of things. either people walk away from the position or they are more determined do it because of what happened in 2020. >> thanks so much, blayne alexander in georgia. breaking news in wisconsin. a jury there has reached a verdict in the trial of the deadly christmas parade attack. it was on november 21. antonia hylton is following the story. they have come up with a verdict. we know, guilty on homicide. >> reporter: that's right, andrea. the jury started deliberating last night and then it reconvened this morning around
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9:30 local time and has quickly come to a verdict. i can tell you, this is just coming in right now. he has been found guilty of first degree intentional homicide, guilty of first degree recklessly endangering safety. this comes after allegations that he had driven an suv through a crowd of people celebrating at a christmas parade. he killed six people and injured more than 60 others. this has been a strange trial. not only because of the nature of what he stood accused of and has been found guilty of, but because of behavior in the courtroom. in fact, even today, as these counts have been read out, someone in the courtroom yelled out saying he should burn in hell. they used another expletive. had to be removed from the room. over the course of the last 18 days of the trial, darrell brooks has been belligerent, angry, openly fighting with the judge at times and has been extremely disruptive to the point that he has had to be
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removed from the courtroom at several different points. he repeatedly -- his argument has been that this was not intentional. prosecutors had a mountain of evidence arguing that this was intentional, that he drove his suv through this crowd with full knowledge of what he was doing while in a rage. that he then even evaded authorities after the fact. you know, he was really unable to call witnesses. he was defending himself. had no lawyers there to represent him, andrea. this strange trial has come to an end that hasn't been surprising for many that he has been found guilty of these horrific acts, andrea. >> thank you so much for that. we remember that horrific day. next hour, pennsylvania senator bob casey joining me along with state representative malcolm kenyatta. analysis from former white house secretary jen psaki.
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