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battleground states where early voting is already under way. plus, president biden heads to new york to tout his efforts to boost the u.s. economy. as a new report shows the u.s. gdp grew by 2.6 points. we'll break down what that means for the state of our economy. in washington, a source familiar with the deliberations tells nbc news that attorneys for former president donald trump have accepted a subpoena issued by the house january 6th committee. also this morning, the u.s. is out with new sanctions against iranian officials as security forces clash with crowds gathered in the hometown of mahsa amini. we'll bring you a live report from tehran. we begin this very busy hour with our top story there, just 12 days left until the midterms.
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at this time, over 13 million people have already cast their ballots in the election which determines the control of congress. and the temperature is rising in places like arizona where phoenix police are investigating a break-in at the headquarters of katie hobbs. police have not identified any suspects nor indicated what was taken from the property. herschel walker is disputing a claim from a woman who said walker drove her to an abortion clinic and encouraged her to have the procedure after she said she became pregnant as a result of their relationship. it comes weeks after the "daily beast" reported the account of another woman. walker has denied both allegations. in wisconsin, another heated governor's race where recent polling shows tony evers with a two-point lead. joining us now is ellison
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barber, shaq brewster and josh lederman in washington. reactions pouring in from all sides on this new accusation facing walker. >> reporter: yeah, both campaigns were quick to respond. herschel walker spoke to reporters at a campaign stop in dillard, georgia, yesterday. he called this latest allegation foolishness and a lie. listen to more of what he said. >> i'm done with this foolishness. i've already told people this is a lie and i'm not going to entertain -- continue to carry a lie alone and i want to let you know i didn't kill jfk either. now the democrats are doing and saying whatever they can to win this -- to win this seat. >> reporter: walker's opponent, raphael warnock tweeted herschel walker, once again, proved he has a problem with the truth and
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taking accountability for his own actions. he should be forced to answer for his actions for his lies about the most basic facts of his life to his pattern of violence against women. so in terms of evidence, what was presented at gloria allred's press conference yesterday was proof of a relationship between an unnamed woman and herschel walker, not direct evidence of an abortion. but they said there's additional evidence that they could be releasing at some point. herschel walker did an interview last night and he was asked whether or not he knew who this woman is, he didn't deny knowing her, but said he wasn't going to play a guessing game. he says this allegation is a lie. he says his campaign is moving on. jose, we're seeing national republicans rally around herschel walker much like they did after that first abortion allegation. he was on the trail yesterday with south carolina republican senator lindsey graham. lindsey graham, like walker and
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his campaign, are implying that this latest allegation is politically motivated. jose? >> and shaquille, in wisconsin, both candidates are hoping for a boost from major political figures on both sides of the aisle. >> that's exactly right. today it will be secretary marty walsh out campaigning with governor tony evers. they're going to kick off a bus tour in milwaukee. this is part of a flood of surrogates who have come to the state of wisconsin and are coming in the future dates. tomorrow, pete buttigieg, friday -- saturday, former president barack obama, and senator elizabeth warren campaigned with tony evers and we saw glenn youngkin with tim michels, the republican candidate for governor. it was at that rally where we got a sense of what the priority will be for michaels if he's elected governor. this is a state where both
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candidates say the national implications are how elections are going to be administered. the democrats talk about the certification of the 2024 election and listen to what tim michels said would be his top priority if he's elected governor. >> number one, we're going to get election integrity back here in the state of wisconsin. if we do not have election integrity, our entire system comes crumbling down. i'm going to work with the legislature, get those bills rights, and we're going to stop the ballot harvesting and stop the confined status. >> reporter: you hear him there reference the bills that tony evers vetoed. republicans in the state of wisconsin have a strong majority in the legislature. they have sent bills to the governor's desk that restrict voting rights or put limitations on access to the ballot here in
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the state. the democratic governor has vetoed most of those pieces of legislation, but you have the republicans saying if he is elected, those vetoes will turn into signatures and those bills will turn into law, jose. >> president biden is heading to new york today. what will be the focus of his message? >> reporter: we've seen president biden road testing some of these economic messages around infrastructure, spending, around inflation and higher prices, student loans. today according to administration officials is where president biden will really try to step back and tie this all into a closing economic message to americans just as they are preparing to cast their ballots in a vote that i think we all realize at this point has really shaped very heavily by people's economic concerns. and so the location for president biden's visit today in upstate new york is notable for two reasons. one, because it is, once again, an opportunity for biden to try to highlight what his
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administration sees as a major accomplishments on their behalf over the last two years in terms of bringing jobs and manufacturing back to the united states, this major chips and tech investment in syracuse, new york, but he's going to have an opportunity there to appear along other democrats who are running there, including, of course, governor kathy hochul who is in a tougher re-election race there than many had anticipated. he's going to be appearing with outgoing congressman katko, one of the republicans who voted to impeach president biden. he'll have to see how that ties into the message that the president is trying to send about bipartisanship and the ability of democrats to work for an economy that benefits all americans, particularly those towards the lower end, middle incomes, and as biden is
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delivering that message, people are across the country including treasury secretary janet yellen who will be speaking about the economy in ohio, another state that democrats are closely watching as we head into the midterms. >> with just 12 days from these elections, we're going to see trump and obama on the campaign trail. >> that's right. we will see both of them, president obama getting ready to campaign in states like michigan and georgia, and we expect that to continue as democrats really try to use -- and frankly republicans too with donald trump. their best tools to get people out to the vote in the final days. that is also a role that president biden feels that he can play in the final days of the race which is why we expect to see president biden most likely returning to pennsylvania, campaigning with charlie crist in florida in the coming days. we're also told that there is a joint appearance in the works for former president obama and
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current president joe biden to help rally for those pennsylvania democrats in the final days. jose? >> josh lederman, shaq brewster and ellison barber, i thank you so much for being with us this morning. now to a new look at where things stand with the economy. the government says the gross domestic product, the total value of goods and services provided in the u.s., rose 2.6% between july and september. this comes after the gdp fell during the first six months of this year. president biden issued a statement on the gdp report saying in part, quote, today we got further evidence that our economic recovery is continuing to power forward. this report also comes as americans prepare to pay more to heat their homes this winter. let's have more now from tom costello. >> reporter: the federal government expects the biggest jumps for customers who use heating oil or natural gas to
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stay warm, up 27 and 28%. two factors are driving the spike, the global market affected by russia's war in ukraine and opec's plan to slash production of crude oil. the supply of heating oil in new england is about a third of where it typically is. still experts say that is not cause for concern. >> supply is tight. that is undeniable. we have enough fuel to supply people's needs at this time. >> reporter: right now, the cost for a gallon of heating oil is about $5.70 per gallon. that's up more than $2 from last year with eight states paying even more. >> there are people who are going to have to choose between feeding their families or heating their home. and that's scary. >> indeed it is scary. with us now to talk more about this is roben farzad, host of the "full disclosure." why do you think that the gdp fall -- it fell during the first
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six months of the year, but now we're seeing a rise in this third quarter. why do you think that is? >> it's a resilient economy. it's hard to keep it down. i like to frame it as the fed versus fomo, fear of missing out. all the people who want to travel and dine out and trying to hire homebuilders and whatnot. it's a resilient economy and there are tranches and tranches of savings and leftover money that was saved during the pandemic that is difficult to extinguish the force of if you're the fed and the fed has taken up rates by three quarters of a point and it's going to do so again and probably again after that. and right now it's this kind of battle of wills. at what point does the economy cry uncle. i think many people are surprised at how resilient it is. >> the price of basic food items continues to rise. the basic foodstuffs that people need to have in their home continues rising. milk up 15%.
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look at these. eggs, 30.5%. chicken, 17. beef has dropped. fresh foods -- fruits and vegetables up 8%. bread, 14, butter 32%. and then let's not even talk about the rising costs to heat homes this winter. what could be the economic impact on these things? in other words, these are the things that people see on a daily basis that really they need to have. >> it's a blunt instrument that the fed has. the fed cannot go out and laser target housing which has been excessive. it cannot browbeat down egg prices again. by raising interest rates, it's hurting everybody. you're getting a sticker shock, obviously, if you saw eggs at 90 cents before inflation and it's $3 right now. milk, you know, even with
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shrinkflation. it's brutal. and the prices are sticky upward. they're not going to come tumbling down in the economy improves. it's a punch in the gut for americans. it's a constant sticker shock every time you go to the grocery store. >> roben farzad, it's great seeing you. thank you for being with us this morning. >> likewise. at 1:00 p.m. eastern white house deputy chief of staff jen o'malley dillon joins chris jansing on that gdp report. that's coming up today. vladimir putin set to deliver an address this morning as the body of a u.s. citizen is found in ukraine. we are live in kyiv next. plus, it's now the biggest humanitarian migrant crisis in the western hemisphere. why venezuelans are fleeing in record numbers and what they're facing. that's ahead. you're watching "jose diaz-balart reports." s. (vo) with verizon, you can now get a private 5g network.
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18 past the hour. right now russia's vladimir putin is giving new remarks on his war on ukraine. we're monitoring this event. but it's happening right now, 5:18 p.m. moscow time. the body of joshua jones, a young american killed while fighting in ukraine, has been identified and handed over to ukrainian officials according to the state department. officials say that there will be a return of his remains to his family shortly. and the united nations nuclear watchdog is spending inspectors to ukraine to investigate claims that ukraine is planning to use a dirty bomb. joining us now from kyiv, foreign correspondent matt mcbradley. also with us is lieutenant general steph twitty, former deputy commander of united states european command and an
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nbc news military analyst. >> reporter: a lot of people are going to be looking at whatever vladimir putin is saying right now. a lot of people in ukraine -- and we've been speaking with government officials over the past couple of days, they do put stock in trying to find out what his perspective is so they can read the tea leaves and maybe you see what his next move is. but they're not going to believe the propaganda that he says and especially like he said in just the past couple of days parroting this notion of a dirty bomb, accusing ukraine of trying to create a dirty bomb to detonate here and to blame on moscow. you know, instead, people are going to be looking at this for a look at his perspective which is very illusive. in the meantime, this country has reached something of an ominous impasse. there are two things that are going to happen that a lot of people are waiting for. one is the nuclear bomb. if russia is saying that they're going to be detonating a dirty
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bomb, that means russia is planning an attack that would represent an escalation and the west, washington, london, european capitals, they all echo that perspective. but the other big thing is happening in the south of the country where troops are moving in on the southern city of kherson. this city was taken early on in russia's latest invasion of ukraine back in late february and it's been occupied ever since. people say -- i know it's very hard for them to communicate just over text message because the internet down there is spotty. they say there's been a pregnant pause in kherson right now. most of the russians seem to have left. but now they've been replaced by soldiers, soldiers who were part of the new mobilization that vladimir putin had announced recently. this woman that i was speaking to, she said that the streets are empty. most of the civilians in the city have been urged time and
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time again to leave which is very ominous. it sounds as though this could be a blistering battle that might not leave much of the city left standing. it's symbolically important to the russians and vladimir putin. it sits on the river. it's a city that historically was actually founded by the russian empress kathryn the great. it fits into putin's narrative that ukraine doesn't exist as an independent nation, it's a creation of greater russia. this will be a very important and possibly very violent battle. jose? >> thank you so much. lieutenant general, your reaction to -- we're coming up to more than eight months since this ukrainian invasion began. russia has not accomplished what they thought and they expected to do early on. what is vladimir putin facing
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now? >> well, he doesn't have many options left, jose. as you know, his troops have not done well on the battlefield, he has lost in the ground war, he's not executed any of his strategic objectives. he's in a box right now. he can come to the negotiating table or continue to do what he's doing, which is a complete failure. that's why you hear about the ukrainian dirty bomb. normally when you hear the russians talk about dirty bombs and things of that nature, this is something that they're planning themselves. and so what i will tell you is, we need to be concerned about it and as i've said previously, not deterred but you can expect them to be the ones to use the dirty bomb instead of the ukrainians. >> so if they do indeed utilize some form of dirty bomb, nuclear, radiation, or
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something, what would the world's reaction be to something like that? >> well, i think you heard president biden talk about the serious nature that this would be, and it would be a serious nature. there are all kinds of options that the president and the nato secretary general could have at their disposal, whether that be continue diplomatic pressure, economic pressure, or a conventional strike. it would not be a nuclear -- let's just say the russians use a nuclear weapon. i do not see the u.s. and nato responding in kind. it would probably be a conventional strike. but there are all kinds of options. continue to isolate, more diplomatic sanctions, or conventional strike to go after russia's capability and punish them for using a dirty bomb.
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>> lieutenant general, always a pleasure to see you. thank you for your time. former president trump accepts the january 6th committee's subpoena, but will he comply? and what happens if he does not? we'll look into that. you're watching "jose diaz-balart reports." o that you're watching "jose diaz-balart reports. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ becoming a morning person starts the night before with new neuriva relax and sleep. it has l-theanine to help me relax from daily stress. plus, shoden ashwagandha for quality sleep.
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28 past the hour. now to the latest on the investigation surrounding former president donald trump. a source familiar with the deliberations confirms to nbc news that attorneys for the former president have accepted the subpoena issued by the house january 6th committee last week. this comes as supreme court justice elena kagan blocked the enforcement asking for phone records from arizona republican party chair kelly ward. with us now to talk about this, ryan nobles and tali farhadian weinstein, a former federal prosecutor in new york. what is the committee likely to do if trump decides not to comply? >> i think the first step is they're going to try to engage with his attorneys and see if there is some sort of common
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ground that both sides are comfortable with that could allow them to get the information they're looking for for the former president. that's what they done with past witness targets. if trump defying those efforts and does not want to cooperate with the committee, they've made it clear that they'll use every resource available to them to try to compel his cooperation and goes all the way up to the possible referral of the criminal contempt of congress which would be an unprecedented step. now the committee is warning of that, but they're not ready to be that aggressive quite yet. we're still about a week or so away from the first deadline, several weeks away from the deadline where he's set to set for a deposition. there's time here for both sides to at least see if they can find some common ground. it's important to point out, time is running out for the select committee. they do not have months and months to deliberate whether or not they're going to move on a criminal contempt referral. there's a good chance if the republicans are successful in the midterm elections that this committee is shutdown. they'll have to do it before the
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end of the year which does not give a lot of time to process all that information and make a claim that the justice department would be willing to move on. jose? >> yeah, that's exactly, i think, what a lot of folks, i imagine that former president trump is looking at this and saying, they don't have a lot of time left. is it something that the former president is just going to run out the clock instead of fighting this? >> yeah, jose, he is in the driver's seat on this one. there's no precedent that says that a committee like this can compel a former president to come in and there isn't enough time for really any body of law to establish that precedent. i assume that the committee knew that when it issued the subpoena and made the decision that his refusal to come in, his running out of the clock and his silence would themselves be instructive and be important for the historic record that they're trying to establish.
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i think also interesting, jose, and instructive is the subpoena to donald trump puts a spotlight on the fact that they have not subpoenaed pence and that's also something i think to look out for in the coming weeks. what does that mean? is he in a different, more cooperative posture with the committee? because presumably, he has a lot to say as well. >> and kelly ward's arguments for trying to block the subpoena are that complying will violate medical privacy laws since he's a doctor. she says it infringes on her freedoms and it will -- and the committee will contact everyone she communicated with around the time of the election. what do you make of those arguments? >> those are extremely original and creative arguments and so far they have failed. she did not convince the ninth circuit that she had any reason not to comply with the subpoena and the fact that justice kagan
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has issued an administrative stay should not read to mean too much. that's a courtesy to her colleagues in case any one of them wants to take a closer look. it gives them a little bit of time. but recall this -- they've only asked for the metadata of the phone reports of ms. ward and her husband. actually, a relatively modest request and i don't think she has a lot going for her in trying to refuse. >> and also a south carolina judge ruled that former white house chief of staff mark meadows must testify before a georgia grand jury investigating possible interference in the election. could he appeal this all the way to the supreme court like lindsey graham did? >> he could. you know, he too has made a really creative argument, a bunch of people have tried to resist subpoenas from that georgia grand jury. he has made the argument based on a technicality in georgia law
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that because this is an investigative grand jury that issues reports and does not itself issue indictments, it's not really a criminal grand jury. others have failed, different arguments, lindsey graham has his case going, and all roads eventually do lead in the same direction to the supreme court. but that doesn't mean that bad arguments are -- have a very long shelf life and it does look like all of these refusals to just participate in criminal process and just to do the right thing in terms of talking about what you know are -- i think are being dealt with much more quickly than they had in the past and we're starting to see the walls kind of closing in. >> tali farhadian weinstein and ryan nobles, i thank you both for being with us. nbc news has confirmed that new jersey senator bob menendez who chairs the foreign relations
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committee is under investigation by federal prosecutors in manhattan. the u.s. attorney's office declined to comment on the news which was first reported by a website. tom winter joins us this morning. tom, why are we hearing about this now? >> it's a good question, jose. this came out of that website report that you referred to and in that report they noted according to a single source that somebody may have received a subpoena in the course of this and then menendez's spokesperson came out and said, yes, we are aware of this investigation. but just like us, jose, we're not quite sure what the full scope of this is at the moment. we don't really know the specific kind of allegations or potential allegations that they're looking into here. it's important to remember this is not senator menendez's first time under the microscope of the fbi. he was initially looked at in 2013 which culminated in an indictment, that he received
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gifts in exchange for using his legislative power and his power in congress to try to be able to do some benefits for a doctor for south florida. the doctor was convicted in a massive medicare/medicaid scheme and sentenced to prison and received a commutation from former president trump while trump was still in office at his behest. the doctor is now out. no insinuation at all that he's tied up in this most recent investigation. but it is being led by federal prosecutors in manhattan. we'll have to see where this goes from here, jose. of course, throughout the entirety of this, menendez himself has denied any sort of wrongdoing in his trial, in that 2015 indictment ended up in a mistrial and a hung jury. >> tom winter, thank you for the latest. appreciate it. the biden administration
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news tehran bureau chief ali arouzi. what more can you tell us? >> reporter: good morning. we're six weeks into these historical protests and the country remains in a state of deep commotion, everyday for the last 42 days, there have been protests, sometimes they've been big, other times they've been small. yesterday's nationwide protests were among the largest that took place in iran since the death of mahsa. it's the 40th day following her death which is significant in around and leading up to the day there were many calls on social media for people to come out and demonstrate. from yesterday morning, people started to flock to mahsa amini's grave site. despite a massive security presence in the air, people were determined, thousands drove, walked along roads, across fields, even crossing streams to
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get to her grave site. police tried to stop them, but they were unsuccessful. throughout tehran, there were protests across the city and that's a tactic that the demonstrators have employed to make it harder for the security forces to round them up en masse. they scatter themselves throughout the city. in the capital, there were fires on the streets and other cities in the west, the east and in the south. there was a resurgence of protests. this uprising is turning into a battle of attrition between protestors and police. the longer it goes on for, the harder it becomes for the islamic republic to deal with them. for the foreseeable future, there is going to be turmoil in iran. >> ali arouzi in tehran, thank you so much. campaigns are racing around the clock to reach voters in every single demographic.
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with 12 days until the midterm elections, political campaigns are in overdrive trying to reach voters from every single demographic and there's one outreach program that's been quietly expanding across the entire country. they're called minority outreach centers. joining us now with more on this is morgan radford. morgan, how widespread are these centers? how widespread have they become? >> jose, that's a great question. listen, this is a really interesting strategy by the rnc. to answer your question, they've been very widespread. this is a multimillion dollar project led by the republican national committee and that money isn't just going to tv ads or even social media, it's also going to these physical outreach centers and it's where people can go in person. it's all part of the republican party's strategy to reach minority voters and it's a strategy they say is working and they say will lead to some big
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surprises at the polls. >> reporter: just outside of atlanta, david martinez is all dressed up for a neighborhood event. but the organizer for this local get together isn't a person, it's the republican national committee. >> were you always involved in politics? >> no, actually, i was never involved in politics until recently. >> reporter: so are you saying this center inspired you to get more involved in politics? >> yes, it did. >> reporter: this is the hispanic outreach center. one of 37 minority centers that the rnc has opened across the country in the last year and a half focused on black, asian and native american voters along with 21 locations geared toward hispanic voters alone. courting them with free family events, movie nights, even free citizenship classes. it's all part of a multimillion dollar strategy by the rnc to
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shift the margins among nonwhite voters just enough. why did you all decide as a party to invest in these brick and mortar sites instead of putting these in ads? >> we have done that and we're not refraining from doing what we used to do. we're doing something additional. >> it's a plan the rnc says the working. while democrats still have an advantage among hispanic voters, recent polls found a 14 percentage point swing towards republicans with the upcoming election. >> i'm kari lake. as governor, i will issue a declaration of invasion. >> reporter: we've seen dozens of ads and interviews from republican candidates calling southern border crossers, for example, an invasion. are these centers enough to counter that type of rhetoric? >> okay, that rhetoric is wrong.
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we're not against immigration. it's not that we hate it. it's that we love the people that is on this side of the border and we have to protect them. >> reporter: one of the fascinating things about these centers is how inconspicuous they are. there's a beauty salon, dentist office and it's that low profile that has progressive strategists concerned? >> is it going to be supereffective? i hope not. but it's worrisome for democrats to see republicans showing up in neighborhoods that used to be safely ours. >> reporter: a strategy he hopes will continue through election day. >> i have seen more people come through and everything. they want to see change. >> reporter: it is important to make clear that those polling shift to the right, they can't directly be attribute today any one thing in particular, but republicans believe these centers are a key element. we did reach out to the
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democratic national committee who acknowledged that they've not chosen to invest in these particular types of community centers, but instead they pointed to a seven-figure investment in spanish language ads in key states and they added in a statement, the rnc's community centers will not be enough to hide the republican party's extreme plans to ban abortion, make health care more expensive and gift the ultra wealthy tax cuts. >> morgan radford, by the way, it's great seeing you. how are you? >> thank you for asking. i feel great. it's great to see you, though. that always makes me happy. >> great to see you. >> all the best. migrants leaving everything behind and risking their lives. now stuck in mexico with nowhere to go. the grim realities and, boy, are
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joining me now from columbia is julie turkewitz, bureau chief for the "the new york times." you've been covering this humanitarian crisis so closely. what's the situation currently for venezuelans that are sent back to mexico? >> thanks so much for having me and continuing to cover this topic. there are thousands and thousands of venezuelans who have thrust from venezuela or columbia or somewhere in south america and traveled up toward panama into central america, up into mexico and have discovered recently that the u.s. is now closing the door to venezuelans. and so they are stuck somewhere between panama and mexico trying to figure out what to do next. >> in your article you write, quote, venezuelans who had been sent back from the border in
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recent days received a form from mexico's immigration authorities saying they had to leave the country by their own means within 15 days. what are the options for these folks in mexico? >> it's really important to state, i think the level of confusion right now among all of these people who have left their homes, thought they were going to be allowed into the united states have discovered they're not going to be allowed into the united states. and so for those people who have been deported into mexico and are living in camps and churches and shelters, some people have received a notice telling them that they need to leave the country. at the same time mexican officials and others inside mexico are talking about allowing these people to stay and work if they would like to. and so this level of confusion appears to be a sort of policy that was created by the united
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states and by mexico without a lot of thought or planning into what was going to happen to all of these people who thought they were going to be allowed into the united states. >> that is probably the key reason among others, right? i just -- put a context into the -- the 6 million venezuelans who have left their country over the past, you know, 15-plus years, but just the amount of people that feel they have no other option but leaving their country and selling everything they have. >> yeah, it's actually 7.1 million venezuelans who have left their country now. it's an astounding number. the numbers are so large that we can't keep up with them and you're absolutely right, people feel they have nowhere to go and many, many, many venezuelans feel that the world is shutting its doors to them.
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you have a situation where many people have -- many venezuelans have left their country, looked for something better in a country like peru or columbia or chile and have found every step along the way, they have found themselves blocked in trying to get to the u.s. and that is why they're traveling on foot and making this very dangerous passage to the u.s. >> the world turning their back on them and ignoring what is going on in that country today as has happened in so many countries in our area. julie turkewitz, thank you for everything. it really is a pleasure to speak with you. appreciate it. that wraps up the hour for me. i'm jose diaz-balart. you can reach me on twitter and instagram at jdbalart. follow
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