tv Chris Jansing Reports MSNBC October 27, 2022 10:00am-11:00am PDT
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trying to expand their territory, but they've got their own problems to deal with. starting with new allegations against herschel walker. we'll go to georgia live in just a minute where a walker event just wrapped up. plus, president biden trying to sell pessimistic americans on his economic message, pointing to new gdp numbers that are stronger than forecast, as proof of things getting better. with food and gas prices up 10% in a year, does anyone care about the gdp? i'll ask white house deputy chief of staff jen o'malley dillon when she joins me later in the show. the mass exodus of health care workers just ahead of what's expected to be a brutal covid and flu season, the alarming statistics and what they mean for you coming up. we start with the midterms and a deep sense of late campaign uncertainty gripping some of the closest races in the country. in pennsylvania some top democrats are second-guessing john fetterman's decision to debate, appearing in pittsburgh
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yesterday fetterman admitted it wasn't easy but he didn't apologize either. >> by january, i'm going to be feeling even better, but he will still be a fraud. in georgia, herschel walker is facing allegations from a second woman accusing him of paying for an abortion. walker who is in a dead heat with raphael warnock did exactly what he's been doing and denied it all. >> i will just say right now, guys, i'm done with this foolishness. i've already told people this is a lie, and i'm not going to entertain -- continue to carry the lie along. i also want you to know i didn't kill jfk either. >> ellison barber is in the road in georgia, jonathan allen is nbc's senior politics reporter and tim miller, nbc political analyst and writer at large for
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"the bulwark." ellison, i want to hear reaction from the event you went to today. you asked one question i think everyone wants answered, both to the candidate, you also asked the campaign. tell us what the question was and what was the response? >> reporter: we were at that campaign stop in dillard, georgia, where herschel walker came to the cameras and made a statement about these latest allegations. after he finished speaking, denying the allegations saying i'm done with this foolishness. i asked him, i said can you unequivocally deny and say you've never paid for anyone to have an abortion. he did not answer that question. he wouldn't take any questions after speaking with us. i asked the question anyway because this is in a public person running for public office at a public event, and it is our job to ask those questions. we asked it. walker didn't answer. i followed up with the campaign
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afterwards asking them that same question. i did not get a direct answer from the campaign either. instead what i got was a copy of the press release they sent out with a transcript of what walker had said at that event, the sound that you just played. it's been interesting to see how this is playing out amongst walker's supporters. the event we were at this morning in coupling, georgia, it's a weekday. usually you don't have large crowds at political events during the week. we're about 12 days from the election, if i'm keeping my crowds straight right now. there was a fairly large crowd, at least 200 people there to see herschel walker, an energetic crowd. they seemed largely unfazed by these latest allegations. >> thank you so much. i'll get you go back and have your conversations with your producer who i assume is driving. we'll check in with you later in the afternoon from that next event. thank you so much. hi to dan. meanwhile, tim, i want to play something lindsey graham said
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during this morning's walker rally. take a listen to this. >> why are they so focused on herschel? they're afraid of herschel walker, because if herschel walker wins, that means we're not racist. and if you're a republican, aren't you being tired of being called a racist all the time by everybody? >> that does seem, tim, to echo a playbook from one donald trump. i wonder what you make of that statement. >> i'm not sure lindsey understands the definition of what it means to be a racist. you can vote for a black person and still have racist views. those two things are not incompatible. this is why i think herschel walker was unchallenged in the republican primary. i think -- let's just be honest about this, republican strategists, republican voters like the fact that he brings diversity to the ticket running for the senate.
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i think they like the fact that there are people who rightly called the republican party racist and negative for their corroboration with the trump administration, and this is a finger the eye of those critics. that is not really a winning message for the suburban swing voters in atlanta, georgia, that put joe biden and raphael warnock and john al some over the top in 2020. i think that's clearly a base message that isn't going to change anything. one thing that stands out to me is that the campaign isn't answering the question about herschel walker's abortions with anything beyond his own words because they don't trust their own candidate. i've been in this situation before advising. he lied to them about their secret families. they don't know what is true. they don't know what else might come out. so that's why they are not being
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clear in debunking or denying the allegations because they don't know what tomorrow might bring on that front. i just think that's really telling about where the republican party is in having to cover for this guy. >> that's georgia. let me ask you, tim, about pennsylvania. there's been lots of hand-wringing surrounding john fetterman's debate. his campaign said he raised $2 million post debate. i want to play what chris van hollen said last night. >> i was glad to see him get out there yesterday and put his positions on the table. i don't think voters were looking for poetry, as you said. i think they just wanted to know what the positions of the candidates are on a range of issues. he was very clear. >> so do you think, tim, the democrats who are worried should be worried? there's nothing you can do about it now, so all democrats can and should do is support him which is what i'm hearing from the other side of the democrats i'm
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in touch with. >> van hollen has a job to do. he's putting lipstick on a big there with that debate. this is the reality. politics is not -- you can't just care about people's feelings. whoever wins this race in pennsylvania will be senator for six years. dr. oz is a puppet for donald trump. it's a very important race, and i think some democrats are right to be frustrated by the fact that after john fetterman had this medical event, obviously it's not his fault, but you have to make a judgment for what's right for the party, what's right for the country. i think that would have been an opportunity maybe to go another direction if they were worried he wasn't able to campaign. i think just kind of saying that, oh, it's ablist or whatever to insult him, to criticize his debate performance, that might be true. but the stakes are pretty high here. i do understand the frustration of democrats who feel like they're stuck between a rock and
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a hard place here and maybe the decision should have been different a few months back, though we certainly are where we are right now. >> we talked about two races that are too close to call. when we talk about late campaign uncertainty, it's pretty much of a shocker from arizona. politico and cook political report just turned. they say the senate race there is now a toss-up. what do you think is going on? is it local to arizona? is it the national mood sweeping in? what's what's happening? >> i think it's a combination of the factors. in arizona like many of the other western states people are looking at gas pumps and the price readout there and not happy about the prices at the grocery store. in addition to that you have a situation where blake masters was not well known before. you've seen him debate, seen his campaign commercials if you're living in arizona. a consolidation of the republican party behind a candidate they didn't know
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before that they now have a better feel for. of course, part of this is dependent on mark kelly, the sitting united states senator, the democrat there and what his ability is going to be to fight those things. >> jonathan, thank you very much. tim, you're going to stick around. just minutes ago we got breaking news out of arizona, by the way. police say an arrest has been made in connection with the break-in at the campaign headquarters of gubernatorial candidate katie hobbs. vaughn hillyard is joining us. what can you tell snus. >> reporter: this break-in took place monday night at the campaign headquarters of democrat katie hobbs. the phoenix pd responded to a call from the hobbs campaign reporting this burglary. there are items that were taken. it's not clear whether this was politically motivated or not. neither the hobbs campaign or phoenix pd are providing details
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about exactly what was taken from the campaign headquarters. there were a couple photographs taken from surveillance footage inside this office that the hobbs campaign believes is the individual here who was ultimately arrested. the person of interest in this case. at the same time this individual was arrested and we are awaiting more details from the phoenix pd. again, a z to what exactly was stolen and whether this was politically motivated. kari lake pushed back explicitly last night suggesting that anybody who would try to make the case that this was somewhat politically connected or politically motivated would -- essentially amounting to an unjust campaign that had no evidence or no actual substantive backing to it. of course, that is why we're waiting and pressing the phoenix pd to provide exactly what their investigation has led to at this
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point because we're 12 days from the midterm election. when you think of campaign headquarters being broken into, of course there's reason for heightened attention and concern as to what led that individual to that specific building. >> without any doubt. if you get updates during this hour, please come back to us and we'll get you on. for the second time in just seven years, one of the most powerful democrats on capitol hill, new jersey senator bob menendez is under federal investigation. nbc's tom winter is following this for us. we know menendez was investigated and indicted on corruption and bribery charges several years ago. never convicted. what's this about? >> his trial there ended in mistrial with a hung jury. this investigation, we're still trying to get our hands around it, specifically what it's about, what it centers around, what types of things they might be looking into. a number of interesting questions on twitter as far as there's these justice department guidelines and how could this information come out so close to the election, isn't this
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prohibited, the type of information that could come out? a couple of things on that point. it's becoming clear to myself and my colleague jonathan deitz that this isn't something that happened last week. this has been on going for some time which means it would fall outside the 60-day window, 90-day window where specific steps that would need to be taken need to be run up the flagpole of the department of justice and approved at the highest levels. the most important part of this, it doesn't apply to senator menendez. he's not running for election. under the spirit and rule of this guideline -- and it's just a guideline -- any information that could come out about this, or an announcement of an investigation would not necessarily pertain to the senator and typical justice department guidelines. either way, it appears to us that this investigation has been going on for some time and that this is not something that came out specifically to try to jam
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up somebody who is running for re-election because he's not. as far as the senator's background, initially under fbi scrutiny starting in 2019, our colleague jonathan deitz broke the story that he was under federal investigation, ultimately charged and indicted in 2015 with the doctor who is accused of being involved in a massive medicare/medicaid fraud scream, convicted of that, sentenced to 17 years in jail. his prison sentence was commuted by former president trump on his way out of office. who proposed that commutation? senator robert menendez. he pushed for it. we have no indication at this point that the doctor is involved in this at all. as we have said and talked about, is somebody no stranger to the fbi and to federal investigators. where this case goes, whether or not there's any charges is something that will take place in the future. of course, senator menendez steadfastly said he was innocent of his charges last time.
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his spokesperson last time said, look, we're not aware of what the scope of this is, but if he's contacted by authorities, he's happy to answer questions. >> much more to come, tom. thank you. to breaking news out of d.c. where a tennessee man has been sentenced to 7 1/2 years in prison for brutally assaulting d.c. police officer michael fanone during the january 6th riots. here is part of what he experienced from his own body cam on that day. [ screaming ]. >> before the sentencing, fanone who is seen here entering the courtroom asked the judge to show head the same mercy he showed him on january 6th which he said was none. nbc justice reporter ryan reilly is live at the d.c. court.
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what more can you tell us, ryan? >> reporter: albuquerque head is the man who dragged fanone into the crowd. he told fanone, said i'm helping you. as he dragged him out, he said, i got one, i got him, to the mob that dragged him down the rest of the stares. another one drove a stun gun into his neck. triggered a heart attack for him. he ultimately lost consciousness. it ultimately led to him leaving the police department. what he said is as a result of getting notoriety on the january 6th attack and the near murder he suffered on january 6th, he'd exchange all that in exchange for going back -- being able to go back to policing. he'd much rather be in policing than in the position he's in today. he did go into the court and encouraged the judge to sentence this individual to the longest sentence available at the top end of the guidelines which was
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96 months, eight years. the judge went just short of that, sentencing albuquerque head to 7 1/2 years. he had very strong words about the lies that continue to be perpetuated by individuals about the 2020 election and said that the opposite of democracy is tyranny, and the threat of tyranny is still very much alive today because of these lies about the 2020 election, and encourage people spreading these lies about the 2020 election to think about the consequences of their actions, all the lives they've ruined, including the lives of the family members of many of the supporters who stormed the u.s. capitol. there are kids at home right now because of what albuquerque did are not going to have a dad for eight years. >> ryan reilly, thank you for that update from the court. packed children's hospitals dealing with an alarming surge in respiratory illness among kids. now, a new report finds a
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exhausted. some people who left during covid did come back. some are coming in, obviously, as they graduate. these numbers are huge. what's the real world impact on the health care system, and do you think this can be stopped? >> we definitely are in a crisis. this isn't a crisis necessarily new with the pandemic. we've known we've had a shortage of physicians and we're entering into this era of by 2023 we're estimating a deficit of 139,000 physicians. 139,000. now, it took me 13 years after high school to get to the point of being a double board certified anesthesiologist. you can't just create a person to replace us overnight. but at this stage, what we're seeing is 2 in 5 physicians will be 65 and older by the next decade, and they are going to retire and we don't have necessarily the man force to come and take their place, but we have an aging population and we also have a more sickly
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some long-awaited good news on the economy coming in new today. the new gdp report that shows 2.6% increase in all the goods and services produced over the last three months. that's the first positive growth this year, and wall street is surging on the news. for months republican attacks on the deteriorating economy have tanked democrats' poll numbers. now the president and his cabinet have some new messaging ammunition as they fan out across the country. jen o'malley dillon is the white house deputy chief of staff and
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joins me now from the white house. it's god to see you. look, those gdp numbers are undeniably better-than-expected. but for the average american, if i can put it bluntly, do they care when their gas prices, their grocery prices, their housing prices -- i guess i'm saying their everyday reality including worrying how much it's going to cost to heat their heems is what they're dealing with on a day-to-day basis. >> chris, thanks so much for having me. that's the exact right question. the president has been talking about that this entire year. he has been fighting for and extremely focused on how to ensure that we're making this economy work better for working families and middle class families. there's several parts to that. certainly we're very encouraged by the economic growth from toy december report. he's out in syracuse, new york, talking about historic announcement from micron, $100 billion in investment in
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syracuse, hundreds and thousands of jobs that are $100,000, good paying wages, looking at the investment in the community. that's part of what has come out of the chips and science act that went forward and was passed earlier this year. and then on top of that, as you're saying, how do we ensure that we're focusing on lowering costs to the american people? that was the signature part of the inflation reduction act that went through this summer that the president has been talking about all across the country, lowering costs on things like prescription drugs, health care, energy costs. and then gas prices, obviously the president is very clear, has been clear that they continue -- inflation continues to be high and there's more work to be done. he's using every tool at his disposal to bring those costs down. i think $1.30 down since june for gas prices, continuing to in the last two weeks going from an average of $3.79 to $3.39. he's going to continue to focus on that, but he is exactly talking about what you're
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talking about right now, what the american family is going through and how he does everything possible to make it easier for them in their day to day. >> as you point out, the white house argument has been the same all year long. for months he's been making this argument, and yet our latest poll here at nbc shows only 16% believe the economy is excellent or good. 59% expect a recession within a year. so why isn't that argument working? >> well, look, i think first of all it's not just an argument he's making. he's delivering for the american people -- >> but they're not buying it. >> i think obviously, as the president -- if he were here and he's crossing the country highlighting the exact things that are impacting the american people and what we're doing about it. certainly the inflation reduction act, there's progress made but a number of those things come into account january 1st. he's also making clear there's a real contrast on the economy.
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right when prescription drug costs are lower, when health care costs are going to be lowered, republican-elected officials are talking about their number wurn priority is repealing the inflation reduction act. the president is clear that he believes and is confident he'll have a democratic house and senate. but he's talking about not just what he's gotten down for the american people, but more than that. there's more progress to be made. he understands what it's like to be in the situation they're in. he knows it's no solace to having a lower inflation in the united states than other countries because they're feeling it every day. that's why we're continuing to focus on those impacts that they have around their table. >> he also knows -- and that's why he's been going out and going to continue to go out during this election season, that in order to deliver on many of the things that he's talked about, he's probably going to need congress on his side, right? he's leading this massive surrogate push in the closing days of the campaign, stopping as you said in syracuse. his cabinet members are out in maryland, north carolina,
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wisconsin, i think in michigan, even texas. how are these visits going to change the trajectory of the race which is not looking good for democrats right now? >> chris, you know i'm limited in what i can say about politics. what i can say is you're exactly right, that his cabinet is traveling all across the country, as he is as well, really bringing home the key elements of the bills and the legislation that have been passed, the executive orders that have been passed throughout the course of this year and telling the story about what that means for them. i think that has significant impact on how the american people and american families feel about that. whether it is a groundbreaking. president biden and lieutenant governor fetterman were in pittsburgh i think just a week ago at the fern hollow bridge, one that happened to have awfully collapsed on a day the president was traveling there.
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less than a year later people and cars will be on that road in december because of the impact and the funds coming into the state from the bipartisan infrastructure bill. at the same time president biden has been clear his entire career that you can get stuff done that help the american people. that's what he's done. that's what the cabinet is talking about, about the economy, but also about the things people are most worried about. his executive order on student debt and continuing to make sure that people have the information on how they can apply. we're going to continue to do that. the cabinet is going to continue to do that. there's no part of this country where that message and that storytelling will not be valuable. that's what most impacts the american people. >> white house deputy chief of staff jen o'malley dillon, reminding what it was like to stand right where you're standing with all of that equipment going on in the background, all the lawn care equipment. let's continue the conversation with tim miller, former communications director for jeb bush's campaign, writer
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at large at "the bulwark." republicans have a different view than we just heard from jen. they call it a ghost report. they warn any positive growth is a phantom, claiming the majority of americans are bracing for what they call a cruel biden recession. the numbers support that americans are worried about a recession. at this late stage can you sort of flood the campaign trail with a lot of surrogates and change enough minds, especially in the races where a fairly small number of votes per precinct could make a difference? >> i think that you can make a difference. i think some of these races are going to be very close. you're looking at the polls, and i think the question is what is the most effective message for democrats in order to bring that home? i think listening to jen o'malley dillon, everything she said was true, but it's complicated, right? it's a hard message to explain to people, some of the macroeconomic factors are pretty
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good while their day-to-day bills are going up. it's a lot easier to say inflation bad which is what the republicans are doing as you see in that press release. my recommendation to democrats the last 12 days is to go on offense against the republicans who actually don't want to fix inflation. the republicans have no plans to try to fix the economy. in fact, i think the republicans would probably try to harm the economy because they think it would help them in 2024 if they get in. they already said that about the debt ceiling brinksmanship. what you'd see with a republican congress is someone actively trying to sabotage the biden economy while investigating hunter biden. is that what voters really want? i don't think so, but republicans have dong a good job of not framing this choice like that. that's the reframe i would be focussing on in the last 12 days. >> donald trump has an incredible schedule coming up, lots and lots and lots of
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appearances. most notably, can we talk about florida? he's going to appear at a rally for senator marco rubio on november 6th. guess who wasn't invited? the state's governor, ron desantis. politico reports a consultant close to desantis saying the sunday before the election day will be, quote, totally hijacked by trump parachuting in on trump force one, taking up the whole day. no republican could go to a desantis event that day, none, and desantis won't be here. this is big. is it big? >> i think it's noteworthy. donald trump is nothing if not petty, chris. we certainly have learned that over the last seven years. i think he's concerned about the fact that desantis has not bent the knee to the degree that some of the other potential contenders would for 2024. i think there's some interesting parlor game analysis we can do about what that means and how donald trump sees him as a real
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threat for 2024. i think the more relevant thing for 2022, trump having a busy schedule is probably the best thing that could happen for democrats over the last week and a half. i think the more voters are reminded of him and of the role that he might play in returning in 2024, the more helpful that will be for democrats, particularly swing voters, if you look at states like georgia and arizona which could decide the senate, and nevada. these are states that joe biden won narrowly. i think getting trump out there is probably good for the democracy. >> tim miller, thank you for sticking around. the tactics security forces are using in iran. dancing crew. trip for two. nail the final interview. buy or lease? masterpiece. inside joke. artichoke. game with doug. brand new mug. come here, kid. gimme a hug.
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violating the nation's strict dress codes. secured forces used teargas and live rounds to crack down on the protests. nbc's keir sichl mons has more. >> good day to you. we or just getting more incredibly impactful images out of iran today in northwest iran. protesters apparently targeted buildings, throwing stones. there seems to be teargas once again on those streets. those videos posted by a kurdish rights group that says a number of government buildings have been taken over, and all of this today surrounds the funeral of a man shot dead during the protests yesterday. a powerful image seen around the world, a young woman not wearing a head scarf, stands on the roof of a car, hands in the air as crowds attempt to reach the grave of mahsa amini and this
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video from a human rights organization captioned "the resistance in glorious." huge numbers across iran determined to mourn and the pro test the death of the 22-year-old, marking 40 days after she died in the hospital, the morality police targeting her for allegedly violating the country's strict clothing code. in the capital of tehran, clashes with security forces and the sound of gunfire. in mahsa's hometown, they shouted women, life, freedom. and these demonstrators daring to chant freedom, freedom, enough of the despotism. images like this one, smoke rising, told of another violent crackdown there. reports say live rounds were used and teargas. the iranian authorities switching off the internet in the city, but a semi official news agency reporting at least 10,000 demonstrated. thousands of miles away, the white house announcing sanctions
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targeting more than a dozen iranian officials. >> our message so iran is very, very clear. stop killing your people and stop sending weapons to russia to kill ukrainians. >> reporter: a dramatic change from earlier this year when the biden administration was trying to negotiate a nuclear deal with iran. but this morning there is no sign of compromising tehran, and no backing down by these young female protesters and the many men out on the streets in support. just underscoring how incredibly tense it is in iran now, 15 worshippers were killed at a mosque, a shooting completely unrelated to the protests. isis claiming responsibility for that. the government of iran blaming foreign terrorists. it just emphasizes how extraordinarily brave these protesters are, going out onto the streets day after day in support of mahsa amini. >> thank you so much, keir simmons, for that report. despite talks from world leaders and big announcements about sweeping change, a new
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county, david is dressed for a neighborhood event and it is the republican national committee. >> were you always involved in politics? >> actually i was never involved in politics. until recently. >> so you are saying this center, the creation of the center, sort of inspired you to get more involved in politics. >> yes. yes, it did. >> this is an hispanic outreach center. one of 37 minority outreach centers that the rnc has opened across the country in the last year and a half, focused on black, asian and native american voters along with 21 locations geared toward hispanic voters alone. it is a plan the rnc says is working. while democrats still have an advantage among hispanic voters recent polls found that 14 percentage points swing toward republicans since the 020 election. >> does it make me feel good that they're doing it? no. is it going to be super effective? i hope not. but it is still worrisome for democrats to see republicans showing up in neighborhoods that used to be safely ours. >> i want to bring in the former president of the latino victory
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project and a former senior adviser to the biden campaign. >> the rnc says this is working, they say they've seen the movement, do you think this kind of outreach can have an impact in these tight races? >> chris, it is so great to see you. thanks for having me on today. what this republican strategy, it is two-fold, as you heard from chuck rocha, part of it is to peel off enough voters for in a close election that you can win and there are a number of close race, toss-up races to congress and the senate level where you knee two-thirds of the democrat, two-thirds of the latino vote to win in arizona and nevada and a number of other places. the other part of the strategy for republicans, it is not just a short term strategy to peel off voters but they know the math and they see the demographics in the country are rapidly changing and making investments a good friend of mine has a saying, no fatso, no say-so, and they want a sayso in
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2024 and beyond. will it work? it might in a couple of places. but it doesn't take away from the fact that a number of these republican candidates are flawed and the policies this re pushing would be devastating to the latino community. the last thing i'll say about this, chris, is the flip side is positive for democrats. number one, they've got an administration that i think is the most favorable administration you've ever seen toward latinos, with very strong policies coming from the president, and backed up by their greatest ambassador jill biden, the first lady, who is in the latino community all the time. and what they're doing is talking about some of the big strides that we've made. latino unemployment is at the lowest rate it's been in 50 years. as you heard earlier in the day, from the jobs reports, from the q3 report, the economy is humming almost at full employment. >> let me ask you this, because i want to look at the facts on the ground because of the facts that you point out with the latino voters, a lot of research is going on in the last couple of weeks and months and it shows this. latinos associate more strongly with democratic positions, okay?
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but also, the support from republican congressional candidates is up 10%. 10% over 2018. are republicans just outmessaging the democrats? because they have a message to tell. latinos believe in their policies more. >> yes, it is a great question. i think what we're seeing is what you typically would see at this stage in the midterm cycle, with there's a shift toward the party that is not in power and voters are moving in that direction. latinos are not that different in that sense than many others but you're right the democratic policies are the ones that are better for the community which is why they favor those and again, speaking as a latino father, i know when the schools reopened during covid, that was a big deal. a quarter of all students in public schools are latinos. if you look at what the administration has done with the record four latino cabinet members out there, and most important issues of our day, fighting for latinos and fighting for all americans every day, that makes a big difference in the minds of latinos. a lot of work has to be done. and some of these races are
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getting closer and closer. it's just a normal shift, i think, what we're seeing in terms of these races being competitive because both sides are putting a lot of money into it. >> thank you very much. that does it for this hour. be sure to join us for "chris jansing reports" every weekday at 1:00 on msnbc. peter alexander will pick up our coverage next. british ports caw precisely orchestrate nearly 600,000 vehicles passing through their uk port every year. don't just connect your business. right on time. make it even smarter. we call this enterprise intelligence. ♪♪ subway's drafting 12 new subs for the all-new subway series menu the new monster has juicy steak and crispy bacon. but what about the new boss? it looks so good it makes me hangry! settle down there, big guy the new subway series. what's your pick? ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪
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