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country with herschel walker just taking the stage in georgia. you can see that live shot here, getting some backup from his gop friends. we're going to take you there and to upstate new york where president biden is, officially to talk jobs. unofficially, trying to help democrats keep theirs. we're live with our new reporting on his closing midterms message. spoiler. it's the economy. with the dow right now soaring on news of that better than expected gdp report. you know what else is soaring though? mortgage rates. we've got the good, the bad and what is next for your money. plus, new reaction for the democrat running for governor in the high profile race in arizona. what katie hobbs said this afternoon after police make an arrest in connection with the break-in at her campaign headquarters. we'll take you live to phoenix. i'm hallie jackson in washington. ellison barber is in monroe, georgia and shaquille brewster in new york, and mike memoli
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traveling with the president. and we will go where herschel walker is speaking live back on defense after being accused by another woman asking her to get an abortion. >> hey, yes, this is walker's second campaign stop of today. he seems to be sort of at the end of his speech. he addressed and denied those latest abortion allegations at a campaign stop yesterday in dillard georgia and today has not talked about it on the campaign trail but an ally, lindsey graham, he has. listen to what he said earlier today. >> all this crap they're throwing at you, coming from los angeles, 13 days before an election, all you got going for you is the people of georgia. so i've seen this movie before. remember kavanaugh, right? right at the end, all this stuff comes out.
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there's another one, and another one, and another one. >> reporter: so walker was asking fox news interview, in a fox news interview, whether or not he knows who jane doe is and he said he did woo not get involved in a guessing game and during the campaign stop yesterday, he said this is a lie and has moved on. and what we're seeing on the campaign trail, it seems like we're going to hear all we're going to hear from herschel walker on this allegation unless there is some sort of new evidence. instead, he seems to be letting his national republican allies sort of take the lead on pushing back against this. and we have heard lindsey graham consistently in the last 24 hours make the argument you just heard him make there, and bring it up in that context, of saying that he believes this is an entirely politically motivated attack. we are seeing a more aggressive posture, if you will from senator warnock and his campaign and talked about this in the past and after the first abortion allegation came out,
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staying on the sidelines and didn't get involved in the back and forth that was going on around that allegation. this time, it is different. we have seen senator warnock get out there and say that this proves that herschel walker is not qualified to be a united states senator. we've got the campaign statements. we've got some yesterday. we got another one today. and we're also seeing them starting to roll out additional attack ads related around this latest abortion allegation. in terms of walker's supporters, it doesn't seem to be fazing them at all. this is the second campaign event of the day. a large crowd. this is a midday, weekday event. and at both of the events, we attended with walker today, there has been over 200 people coming to see him. a very energetic supportive crowd. >> when you talk to those voters, the potential voters in the crowds, do they reflect what we've heard from senator graham and others about the allegations against walker? >> they say it is a lie and don't believe it and a lot of people in this state, the fact that this accuse ser coming
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forward with gloria allred as her attorney, people say that as an outside thing and they quite frankly don't trust it and don't believe it. >> ellison barber, live in monroe, georgia, thank you. i want to go to you mike memoli and we know that abortion is one of the issues that is key in the georgia race but so is the economy. it is he could not just for republicans but for democrats, too, and that is what president biden will focus on. it is technically an official event today. but there is an unofficial backdrop, right? 12 days out from election day. i know your sources have framed this to you as a kind of a closing argument from the president. >> reporter: yes, it is a really fascinating backdrop for this speech from the president because so much of the conversation around these midterm elections, as you well know, is about the ways in which democrats across the country are on defense. they are really suffering from republican attacks on not just the economy, but issues like crime and immigration and foreign policy. but this is really an effort by president biden today, to turn
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the tables, to go on offense. we are in new york state, you're thinking, yes, a blue state, that really shows democrats are playing defense. but this district, where the president is about to speak, is one of only ten republican-held districts that the cook political report rates as a toss-up district. so this is a race actually where democrats might pick up a seat, even as they face potential losses across the country. and the president really wants to come here, and turn the argument squarely into one of not a referendum on his presidency so far, but a choice between the republican and the democratic vision for the economy so far. we've got a little taste of this in a statement that the president released earlier today about that good gdp number that was released. and am it, the president is saying the republican are rooting for an economic downturn when in fact his economic approach shows the economy is powering forward and he says republicans are putting forward a very different vision, and according to my sources, we're going to hear the president lay that out starkly and talk about list economic platform which has led to major jobs announcements like the one they're touting today, $100 billion investment
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by the tech giant micron in upstate new york that will create 50,000 jobs, part of what the president calls his made in america economic vision, versus what he says is the republican platform right now, which he says will raise costs. he says republicans will shift the tax burden back to the middle class and raise the cost of energy, and raise other costs like health care, and students loan debt, because they're challenging these things in court. they're going to repeal the inflation reduction act. so this is the president really trying to go back on offense, but hallie, this is not the president alone. we're also see the cabinet spanning out across the country, more than a half dozen cabinet members in swing states, in swing districts to amplify the situation. and the first lady will campaign in new york, campaigning in the district of sean patrick maloney, the democrat in charge of keeping democrats in charge on the house, and a clear indication on one of the more
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popular members of the administration that democrats want them in their district where they're playing defense. >> mike. i know you will stay close to the camera and we expect to hear from president biden 20 minutes from now. shaq, let me turn to you. ellison in georgia framed that race that she is covering, the critical senate race, as in some ways, the republican candidate herschel walker pulling some help in and facing this second allegation to help pay for an abortion, something that he denied. in wisconsin, you're following races, including a governor's race and seeing both candidates on both side was the aisle, bringing in heavy hitters in their parties. they want to get out there, make sure people know this race is happening, and know that they need to show up to vote. >> that's exactly right. and they're pushing to the national implications of this race. and you're also hearing a lot of policy, specifically from governor evers, talking about the dramatically different direction wisconsin can move in, if his opponent wins in this election. had is a governor that has vetoed more than 100 bills
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passed by the strong republican legislature, in this state, on everything from issues including having guns in schools, to voting rights. you're looking at some of the issues and bills that he's vetoed in this election, so even though we just heard him speak with the secretary of labor, mike mentioned the biden cabinet, out in force, he really paints himself as a last line of defense, and explained why you're seeing so many outside forces. there's a lot of national interest here. and it is because it is the nationalism cations that this race has, and that is something that i would ask to both of the candidates. how should people view, people who are not here in wisconsin, how should they view what goes on here in wisconsin and the result of this race. listen to what candidates, tony evers and tim michaels told me. >> i think it is a great indicator of the future of politics in the united states. are we going to elect a businessman, an outsider, someone who has real life experience and can take that to madison and apply that to government, or are we going to'
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elect a failed tony evers. >> i view that somehow we will change the voting rights in wisconsin and make it more difficult to vote, that will make a big difference in 2024 no matter who is running for president or for senate. >> reporter: we talked about that, and those national forces and i mentioned the labor secretary today, and yesterday, it was senator elizabeth warren, and virginia governor glen youngkin, and on saturday, it will be former president barack obama, and this is the first weekend of early voting, both sides are saying that they want their supporters to turn out to the polls, and they're getting a sense that they're relying on that outside help to do exactly that. >> shaq brewster live in milwaukee, thank you. mark murray, we have heard from the road warriors about the issues at play in the key races. rights, and threats to democracy and the crime and the economy. there is a lot at stake obviously in this election. stuff that actually affects people's lives depending who has control of the house and senate. here is the thing that i think viewers need to be thinking
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about now, 12 days out, and we may not know at 2:00 a.m. on election night which way the senate goes, right? this is something that you and your team are touching on, in first read today. when you look back at 2020, at the prj of votes counted the morning after that election, we have a ways to go in a bunch of states. you can see in here, these are really important states in this election. arizona, georgia, michigan, nevada, new hampshire to a agree. wisconsin, pennsylvania. we need to start thinking about election week instead of election night. >> it is either good news or bad news for us, but we are embracing for an election week and not an election day and one of the big reasons why has to do with the mail-in ballots, where shaq was reporting in wisconsin, they by law can't start to process mail-in ballots until election day. so if you have a lot of them, and maybe we won't see as many as we saw in 2020, but if you have a lot of them, it might take the state of wisconsin a while to count them all.
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similarly in pennsylvania, it cannot start counting its mail-in ballots and processing them until election day. and even a place like michigan, that has allowed an earlier counting of absent see ballots in some large areas in the state, the secretary of state's office ended up telling me that it still is going to take up to 24 hours to have an unofficial count of all of the ballots in the states. and so i think we're going to be drinking a lot of coffee. not only on election night, hallie but all through election week. >> mark murray, it is a good reminder, it is important to think about now, as we brace for what is going to happen just about two weeks from now. appreciate it. so, economy. we know it is a big deal to voters. we know that plus cost of living is the top issue that voter say matters to them come election night and talking about economy and talk about wall street, right now reacting to new data out today. check it out. stocks are up. the dow is up. in the final hour of trading. after the gdp report shows the u.s. economy is rebounding at least for now.
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and the gdp up 2.5%, just about 2.6% in the last quarter. and that actually beat the expectations from experts. and it's the first period of positive growth in the economy this year. clear skies. love to see it. but there is another report out on mortgage rates showing that they're at the highest level in 20 years. bring in ron insana senior adviser to schroeder's, and it is good to see you. >> thank you. >> good news on the gdp. maybe not awesome news on mortgage rates, right? how should we be thinking about the economy right now? especially when it comes to this concern about, are we in a recession, are we going to hit a recession, if we do, is it going to be really bad or just mildly bad? >> almost when i answer yes to all of those questions, we're not in a recession right now, the unemployment rate is at 3.5%. and employers are still struggling to find workers, which is more typical of an economy that is growing. however, as you mentioned, with mortgage rates as high as they are, the highest since about 2001, real estate itself is in recession. and the gdp numbers, as you say,
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rebounded from two negative quarters earlier in the year, and it was good news inside that report, on the inflation front, where inflation has cooled considerably, by at least one measure. however, as you indicate, some forward-looking indicators suggest a recession may be on the horizon, particularly if the federal reserve remains aggressive in raising interest rates. >> ron insana, thank you, as always, good to see you, appreciate it. >> thank you. 15 minutes or so away from president biden's midterm talk in upstate new york. and an arrest just made related to the break-in at a campaign office in arizona. we'll take you live to phoenix with those details. first, the judge handing down one of the longest january 6th sentences yesterday, one rioter got more than seven years in prison, coming up. ing up laundry truths: the bargain jug. ♪♪ that's a huge jug of detergent. yeah, isn't it a bargain? you know that bargain detergent is 85% water, right? really? it's this much water!
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her campaign office this week, declining to take questions on it, as police say they have arrested somebody in connection with this burglary. we still don't know who or what was taken and what the deal was, et cetera. the hobbs campaign is aware of the arrest obviously and in a previous statement referring to the gop candidate kari lake implying she may have some responsibility accusing lake of dangerous information and threatn firing back saying we don't know anything about it so it is a lot of allegations they are throwing around. vaughn hillyard is in arizona. >> kari lake pushing back against the insinuation or the suggestion or the implied statements that were put out by katie hobs' campaign late last night, and when she said in part, let's be clear, for nearly two years, kari lake and her allies have been spreading dangerous information and inciting threats against anyone they see fit. and that comes down to the question, was this a politically motivated burglary? we now have an individual here
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in the last 90 minutes who has been arrested by the phoenix police department. they tell me that they will be releasing additional details on this individual here this afternoon. but until then, i put the question to katie hobbs just a bit ago about what particular items may have been taken from her campaign headquarters and whether she believed this actually was politically motivated. take a listen to our exchange. >> what was, to confirm your campaign office -- >> i'm not talking about the break-in today. i'm not talking about the break-in. >> your campaign office was broken into. >> i feel safe and legal abortion is kind of a big deal and that's why what we're here to talk about. >> do you believe it was politically motivated. >> we're not going to talk about that at this time. >> as you heard from the secretary of state, this was a reproductive rights round table and she had no interest to talk about the burglary. from our end of this, we will be hear through election day, and we're going to be going to a
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kari lake event a couple of hours from now, and here in arizona, it is a hop scotch from the democratic candidate and the republican candidate and the burglary heightened the tensions and the suggestions it may be politically motivate and we will know more about the potential evidence and details and whether that was the case or not here hopefully in the next couple of hours. >> vaughn hillyard live in phoenix, thank you. today, a judge handing down one of the longest january 6th sentences yet. the rioter who assaulted former dc police officer michael fanone getting 7 1/2 years in prison and some of the darkest acts committed on some of our nation's darkest days. and we are awaiting a trial verdict in michael riley, an officer charged with obstruction for talking about taking down a facebook post, and deadlocked on one and the other, and waiting for the verdict to come in. ryan reilly is outside of court in dc.
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and let's take michael fanone and this case first, ryan, and in his words, i would trade all of this attention to return to policing, he says, but i can't do that. take us inside the court. >> that's right. i mean he was basically speaking there about all of the attention that he has gotten after, as a result of nearly dying on january 6th. obviously, he's written a book, and he's spoken before the january 6th committee, and said he would trade that in a heartbeat, for being able to return to policing, because that was his true love and something that he did for 20 years. so you know, both strong words from fanone, who, and also strong words from the judge, in sentencing albuquerque head, and said during the sentencing, people need to understand that they can't do this, or anything like this, again. they can't try to force their will on the american people, once the american people have already spoken at the ballot box. that's the opposite of democracy. it's tyranny. and the threat to democracy, the dark shadow of tyranny, the dark shadow of tyranny,
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unfortunately, has not gone away. so alluding not so subtly to all of the lies that have been spread about the 2020 election, particularly by donald trump, and she called upon individuals who have spread these lies to reflect upon what has happened, as a consequence of this, and the lives that had been destroyed, including the lives of family members, of a lot of the supporters who have now thrown their lives away essentially and are going to prison for significant periods of time, because they took action upon the lies that they believed about the stolen election in 2020. so a significant sentence, and the second longest sentence that we've seen handed down in connection with the january 6th case, thus far, hallie. >> so that is sort of one bucket. let me ask about the second budget as it -- bucket as it relates to michael riley. and the verdict is. in and the decision on one count and we don't know about the others. tbd time line, i guess? you know this better than i do having been in court but that could come at any minute. >> yes, and it could be coming at any moment now. because they told us yesterday
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afternoon that they had reached their verdict on one count. essentially it doesn't really matter, if they find him guilty on one count, in terms of sentencing it doesn't actually matter but we don't know what they found on that count, whether they found him guilty or not guilty on that one count that they have decided upon. there is a lawyer who is amongst the jurors in this case and deliberately pretty seriously and apparently deadlocked on that seconds charge a bunch of reporters waiting until they come down. this is definitely the longest january 6th case. and generally they're shorter because of the overwhelming evidence, caught on video and photographed by others and this case is a little more complicate and complex so we will see where the jury landed on that one count and if they were able to break the deadlock on second count. >> ryan reilly live for us in downtown dc, thanks. still ahead, a live look at syracuse new york, where president biden is set po to speak. maybe about five minutes from now, we think about, the economy. you will see that live h
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the pentagon today, a key document, laying out the priorities and challenges and china, the top threat to america? when russia is the one at war in ukraine? what's behind that thinking? here is defense secretary lloyd austin. >> the prc is the only competitor out there with both the intent to reshape the international order, and increasingly the power to do so. >> nbc news pentagon correspondent, joining us, courtney, talk us through that, a national security strategy out that looks at missile defense and give us the highlights what we should know. >> that's right, so this is unusual for all to be released at the same time but to be put together at the same time. the idea according to the defense officials we spoke with today is that they were hoping they would feed off of one another and inform one another and become more coordinated product. but you mentioned the national
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defense strategy. now, what is different about today's strategy from the more recent ones is rather than naming both china and russia as the top threat or challenges to the united states, this one singles out china. and that's because it is labeled as the top pacing challenge for the united states. this means that it is a competitor that most likely will give the u.s. a run for their money, in areas like technology, and military, and even in economic challenges. so china labeled as this pacing challenge, that the u.s. military is supposed to be sort of gearing their efforts, and their modernization efforts towards this potential challenge from china. but russia is also mentioned largely in this as an acute threat. what does that mean? secretary austin briefed today on the national defense strategy and explained a little bit more about what an acute threat russia is in this defense strategy. >> the nds describes russia as
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an acute threat. and we chose the word acute carefully. unlike china, russia can't systematically challenge the united states, but russian aggression does pose an immediate and sharp threat to our interest and values. >> immediate and short being the key terms and that's what russia is to the united states, and they are not a long term potential adversary as china is with their modernization effort. and they have laid out several key areas that the pentagon, the military, are supposed to be focusing on. one of those is defending the homeland. from potential attacks. and particularly, from the continued threats, and the growing threats from china. also, deterring potential strategic attacks against u.s. and allies overseas. outside of the homeland. and then finally, containing china and russia and europe and in the asia-pacific, and building a resilience in the
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ecosystem. and what that means, this idea of integrated deterrence. so we hear a lot about that here at the pentagon. what it means for the viewers though is the idea that all of the different systems here at the pentagon, the military systems, and the weapons and the equipment, would work together in a way that would present a deterrent to a major adversary that may be considering attacking the united states here or abroad. >> courtney kube, thank you. next up what vladimir putin is saying in a rare speech about the war in ukraine and the concerns that russia is getting ready to use nukes. live in cube. russian lawmakers cracking down on what they are calling lbgtq propaganda and threatening the community at large, what we know and how much further they can go, next. xt pantene's pro-vitamin formula repairs hair. as well as the leading luxury bonding treatment. for softness and resilience, without the price tag. if you know... you know it's pantene.
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dangerous and dirty and bloody game of world domination and in no way backing off the invasion of ukraine, and a lot of tension over nuke weapons, putin did not deny he was getting ready to use one in ukraine in what was the most forceful rejection yet, saying it doesn't make sense. his speech, come can as ukrainian and russian troops brace for a major bat until kherson, the gateway to crimea. cal perry joins us live now from kyiv. and putin gives speeches and an opportunity to ask questions of putin by journalists and how does his speech today square with what we're seeing on the battlefield? >> reporter: i don't think it squares at all with what we're seeing on the battlefield and so many tune in in the hope they will learn something and instead it is aa tribe against the west and he called the war a civil war and ukraine is not a country
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and basically should be a part of russia and a civil sort of incident in his mind. he is talking about the people of the donbas, one of these regions that he has annexed that he is here to save them, that for years, as they have been shelled by ukrainian forces. it was sort of more of the same tone, the same tenor and i think one of the headlines you laid out here, that he says he is not planning, or has no intention of using nuclear weapons. there is a saying here in kyiv that if you want to know what is a lie, you just listen to vladimir putin speak, so i don't think people here are going to take that at face value. people here are still very worried. as you said here, in kherson, in the south, is one that is an hour by hour sort of watch. people here are hoping that that city will fall back into ukrainian lands, but it needs to be mentioned that the russian military has withdrawn all of the civilians. forcefully moving them from that city. so the hopes that the ukrainian army would liberate this city and there would be video of people celebrating the arrival of the ukrainian city, has been removed by russian troops and you see this across the country, we've talked about this for
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weeks, a scored earth policy, if russia can't have the territory, they will either flood it or shell it or light it on fire, and they're going to take people out of it. the entire southern part of this country has been absolutely decimated by what has been an eight-year war but really over the last year, just unbelievable violence in that part of the country. >> cal perry live for us in kyiv. thank you. well, ukraine obviously is a real and deadly target for russia, there is new reporting today on another target for moscow. russians themselves. agreeing to toughen up one of the already largest toughest law, anti-bkt laws and bans what supporters call anti-lbgtq propaganda and makes it illegal to say being gay is okay and it is the promotion of homosexual relationshiping saying it is normal and russians would not be allowed to talk positively about anything lbgtq in public or put anything online and forget about
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movies featuring gay relationships or books or characters, and this is an attempt to erice the community from the culture. raf sanchez has more. where does it go from from here? >> reporter: that's the big question. this is the vice closing tighter on the already embattled russia lbgtq community. just rewinding, this bill is an amendment to the law that is on the books for ten years already, which outlaws the promotion of gay propaganda for kids. this law outlaws it for everybody. all adults. and as you said, this is just an incredibly expansive definition. so we can safely assume that it is illegal to make a movie, to produce a tv show, to write a novel, that portrays gay characters in a positive light. but hallie, if you're in a committed same-sex relationship in russia and you walk down the street and you briefly hold the hand of your partner, are you propagating gay propaganda?
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no one really knows. there is also implications for foreigners. first of all, russians if they're convicted under this law, can be fined the equivalent of 6.5 thousand dollars and foreigners can be expelled from russia, and the first person who comes to mind is brittney griner, right, the wnba store is an openly lesbian women and facing eight years in prison for a separate offense, but it just gives you a sense of the hostile legal environment that she is being prosecuted under. there is also something bigger going on here. and it's to do with what cal was just talking about. i want to read you, hallie, a quick quote from a russian lawmaker who voted for this bill, he says in fact, it is a simple decision, designed to protect our society, and our children from this filth, which is now being dictated to us, including from the west. this is the first step for russia to leave the values and concepts that were imposed on us 30 years ago.
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which is a reference to the fall of the soviet union. this is the first step, but not the last. and hallie, this is a process that is known for years in vladimir putin's russia, accelerated since the start of the war in ukraine, a return to this kind of 19th century blood and soil, russian nationalism, charged by a very traditional, very conservative version of orthodox christianity, and hallie, we've been monitoring lbgtq telegram groups in russia tonight, and there's really not many options for people who want to speak up against this. you cannot go out into the streets and protest in vladimir putin's russia. and the main message here, they're urging people to sign online petitions that, you need to be careful about putting your name out there, the main message on these forums is hold your loved ones tight and we as community will try to get through this, and hope for better days. >> tell me more about that, because you're teeing up the question that i had for you, and
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listening to you talk about this, which is what does the pro-lbgtq community look like in russia, and what are the options, right, to push back on this, in a nation like russia where there is no such thing, right? >> yes, so there are still lbgtq organizations in russia. they're monitored. they're surveilled. they're harassed. they're treated as sort of an arm of the u.s. government. they're treated as subversive foreigners even though they're just russians who are organizing and trying to protect their rights. they have pretty few options. one of the things we're seeing is they want to try to generate online petitions and they want to try to show that there is a groundswell inside russia that objects to this treatment of lbgtq people. but they can't go speak to their members of parliament. one of the things we've seen actually on some of these forums, is a number of these groups suspect there are lbgtq
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members of the russian parliament who voted for this law tonight. now, we don't, we can't get inside the heads of these russian parliamentarians, we don't know, but if that is true, you have to assume that these are people who feel enormous pressure from vladimir putin's ruling party to vote against their own communities, to vote against their own families, to vote against their own lives, which is, you know, about as tragic of a thing as you can imagine, a government forcing somebody to do, right? >> for sure. raf sanchez live for us, thank you. appreciate it. still ahead, elon musk, visiting twitter, as he gets ready to take it over in about 24 hours from now. can he change what it's like for you? we'll talk about it. first, new comments from house republicans on the prospect of impeaching president biden if they get control on election day. new reporting what is going down behind the scenes after the break. behind the scenes after t break. e with new neuriva relax and sleep.
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so, if you're at high risk and test positive, don't wait. ask your healthcare provider right away if an authorized oral treatment is right for you. so we are hearing a lot on the campaign trail from republicans lately on the "i" word, inflation, and there is more talk of another word, impeachment. the number three republican in
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the house, elise stefanik suggesting impeaching president biden is on the table if the gop takes control of the house after the midterms. other republicans, not so ready to go there. at least not yet. we heard the congressman from south carolina saying in her words is not interested in playing tit for tat. we'll talk about impeachment, it is not really new for house republicans. they introduced 14 impeachment resolutions against the president since he took office and not just him but cabinet members too, and the difference now, many republicans think they're within striking distance of being in charge come january. look what the cook political report says in the last 24 hours. chaining their predictions of the gain for republicans from 10 to 20 to 12 to 25 and to change their prediction if the gop does continue, to vote on steps for impeachment. >> jake sherman is with us, good
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to have you on the show. >> you are talking to the next speaker of the house, who could be the next speaker of the house kevin mccarthy, i think the country doesn't like impeachment, we have the quote on the screen and is there a possibility if the republicans take the house, that we're not impeaching for political purps but legitimate national purposes as relates to the border or whatever. >> for sure. and i want to draw your attention to the next quote which you might not have on queen but i'll tell it to you -- jean. but i'll tell it to you. the next question i asked him, do you believe, up until now, two or three weeks ago, anything to rise to the level of impeachment? and his answer to that was no. so he believes sitting here in 2022 that no one has done anything impeachable. i will concede, people's minds change. kevin mccarthy is, if republicans win the majority which you just indicated is a
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certainly if not likely certainly possible. he's going to -- he's not a party of one. he has a lot of members who have a lot of different political priorities. a lot of different incentives. he's going to have to at least in the short term be beat back the impulses of the more conservative, the further right members of the house republican conference who are going to want to impeach people like merrick garland, the attorney general or joe biden or kamala harris. he's going to have to beat back the impulses. i think the more than important thing to consider for people to really wrap their heads around, i know the white house is beginning to wrap its head around this is what kind of investigations we're going to see in this, if there is a new majority in the house of representatives. >> people like to talk about the investigation of hunter biden, for example.
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they're bracing for the potential for impeachment from house republicans. you have also seen this idea that like all right, well, there are many things that may need to be investigated. what is the list of priorities? where do these things rank? >> a couple. there is the hunter biden category. which is things that the republicans are going to do that are going to grab headlines that they need to do to kind of please the right. and there might somebody legitimate obviously some questions to ask. and maybe they'll be on point on others. but there are substantive investigations that are going to conduct or they say they're going to conduct, withdraw from afghanistan. i think are even democrats that want answers on the withdraw from afghanistan which a lot of people think was botched and completely mishandled. number, two the origins of covid has the potential to be invedbly part citizen and draw out real questions as long as they don't
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go into anthony fauci is the worst person in the world. and then the select committee. they're going to create a select committee on china. kevin mccarthy has long been interested in china. he thinks there is no central kind of committee that is investigating all facets of china's dominance or quest for dominance on the global stage. he says he's going to let democrats on that committee. those are the big ones to look out for. obviously, i'm not suggesting hunter biden won't be big. but those are the ones that could, if handled correctly, could at least have some shade, some hue of bipartisanship. >> you're on the hill. you're, you know, one of our hill whispering friends here. congresswoman cheney, her first endorsement of a democrat. she will obviously no longer be serving in congress next term.
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the congresswoman. you think we can see -- expect more of this from cheney? she said she wants to be a force to try to prevent maga-esque republicans, you know, so-called big lie pushing republicans from taking power. >> and that's at the core of this, right? this is what cheney wants to do. she wants to try to tamp down the election denying wing. maybe she'll do it in primaries. we don't know. i don't have any sense of what -- i'm saying this, i don't know what her approval rating is nationwide. what her approval rating is with democratic voters or members. i don't really know the answer to that. i do expect we'll see more of this going forward. >> jake sherman, great to see you as always. thank you. so to twitter drama. there is always something. there is always a lot of it. they list elon musk, the month long saga, what is he going to do? what is it going happen? it looks like this may finally be coming to a close. the deadline for musk and at
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which timer to seal the $44 billion deal is just about almost exactly 24 hours away. i think it's 25 as we speak right now. and today a sign that this thing may happen, musk has given clues about how he's going to run it. sending a message to advertisers that the platform must be warm and welcoming to all and not what he describes as a free for all health scape. toothpaste may be out of the tube on that one. he already showed up at twitter headquarters with a sink, just a normal thing. jake, talk about what mus is being saying and how the next 24 hours. what is the deal? what's going to go on? >> i think that we are definitely seeing the end of this question of whether or not he's going to take it over. equity investors have seen the paperwork from his lawyers. we're seeing him walk in and put pictures of himself holding that random sink on to the internet. and, you know, he is putting out this message to advertisers. it seems clear that this point he has every intention of going
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ahead and taking over this thing tomorrow before time runs out. as you know, if he hadn't done so, then a judge would have forced him into a trial with twitter. it seems that part of this may close. what is going to be interesting now of course is going to see just what he delivers on in terms of the kind of noise he has made. he's made for instance the noise he may cut 75% of the workforce. scale it back to 2,000 employees. that is a skeleton crew. he made enormous public pronouncements from everything from the war in ukraine and what china and taiwan should do. he is not shy about that stuff. so all this makes him i think a very unusual and, you know, unusually vocal person when it comes to someone who is literally about to run the world's largest news services. that's the next thing we're going to be following. you mention the saga never ends. it is not going to end. he's going to own this thing and then cover. >> he is going to let trump back on right away or what? >> well that, is the real question, right? of course he had said he will do so.
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he is saying that he is going to make it happen. the thing that for me really jumps out about what he wrote today in that message to advertisers is that he basically puts out the four notions of what twitter is going to be. a digital town square that is, you know, welcoming to all. it is respected place for tuesdayers and where you can choose your own experience. on the one hand, you can look at those things as a laundry list of things to do. on the other hand that, looks like a list of contradictory ideas. i think he's about to walk head first into how complicated it is to run a platform like this. >> jake ward, the all over it as the drama does continue. appreciate it. appreciate y'all for watching this hour of msnbc. we pick up with "deadline white house "ow right after the break. house "ow right after the break. relieving nasal congestion and sinus pressure by reducing swelling in the sinuses. try vicks sinex. wayfair's way day is here! get low prices on thousands of items for your home. shop bedroom furniture from $7.
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