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recorders to record activity. additional cameras on the street to catch car models and license place. in-person monitoring through the night might not be feasible but if undertaken should be done with caution, and well armed, as criminals caught in the act can be dangerous. we now this is not mission impossible or james bond, or even a rear window. this, is a manual for poll watchers in michigan. and the things being monitored here are drop boxes. the manual, the details all this is 28 pages long, and it was made by a group called michigan for america first. if you look at the group's website, you could see michigan for america first, it's actually just an affiliate group. or it's a local chapter of a group called the american

project. the spokespeople for the innocuously named america project, spokespeople of these guys, former over stopped a crime ceo burn, and trump national security adviser to michael smith. which is particularly concerning. you probably remember, michael flynn for 1 million reasons, none of them good. you might remember the overstock ceo, the two of them together as a team. it calls backed one specific thing, in december of 2020, and those two man were part of a small group that met with trump in the oval office, they tried to convince them to order the u.s. military to seize voting machines across the country. they drafted an executive order for it. this time those two are marching to the white house, and going after the election at the national level, they're going after the most fundamental aspect of our democracy, from the ground up. ballot box by ballot box. precinct by precinct, all over the country. flynn this past weekend spoke to a crowd of 5000 people, at a far-right christian nationalist event in pennsylvania.

>> so, my big, my big thing. it's has been for a long, long time. but particularly in the last couple of years, has been to get involved at the local level. and i use this phrase, local action equals national impact. on your way back home, start to think about what it is that i can do. and honestly, if you can go volunteer, in a local precinct, that's great. i mean go do that, if you've never done it, i never did it. i didn't have the time to do. it but this time i said i'm gonna do. at my wife and i went, attended the training the other night, it was easy, it took a little over an hour, good questions. and we're gonna go now, go to our precinct captain, we're gonna get on schedule, and we're gonna stand there and we're gonna watch. we're gonna observe. >> local action equals national impact. this isn't just flynn and his group. this is the new far-right, stop the steal strategy overall. just like we have far-right groups showing up to city

council, school board meetings across the country, election denying groups are all focused on the local. they're groups like the election integrity network, run by conservative activist former trump 2020 lawyer cleta mitchell. they claimed to have trained more than 20,000 people around the country on election law. so, they can observe local elections. given mitchell's fan base, all of those people are likely election deniers. and then there's groups of the one run by don schultz, it's called precinct strategy. it's aiming to get as many deduction deniers as possible to sign up to actually work their local election. and there's a seemingly endless list of groups like michael flynn's, ones that are calling specifically for the physical monitoring that drop boxes. and frequently calling for people to be armed while doing so. all of this is coming more into focus as we get closer to election day. we've already known for months, the amount of damage this far-right focus on local

elections has had already. earlier this month, a man was arrested in iowa for the threatening a local election worker in maricopa county, arizona. he left this mail saying, i'm a victim of a crime, a crime as the theft of the 2020 election. do your job, or you will hangy. we'll see to. it torches and pitchforks, that's your future. in august, the department of justice brief the public on the overwhelming volume of threats they've seen against election workers. in august, months before the election even started, they'd reviewed over 1000 hostile, harassing instances reported by election officials. 11% of those instances met the threshold for a federal criminal investigation. that is pretty easy math. that means the department of justice found more than 100 instances of people being so hostile to election workers that their actions might be a federal crime. they found that months before the election. google your state and the words,

election official resigns, and the results will likely scare you. in nevada, ten of the state's 17 counties have had clark turnovers since 2020. in pennsylvania, nearly 50 top elected officials have left their posts. but all of this does not mean we should be hopeless. it doesn't mean that local communities and local election officials can't defend themselves. the law is on their side. just today, one of the groups pushing for armed ballot box watchers in arizona, an oath keeper affiliate a group called the lions of liberty, a group with the incredible logo that features lady liberty on a golden cloud flanked by two lion heads. the lions of liberty, released what they call an official stand down order. they explained that they have been named in a federal lawsuit. and realizing the consequences of that lawsuit, the lions of liberty have decided to back off. in their words, operation drop box is officially closed. there's still plenty of groups

that are planning to harass officials and voters. all across the country. but there are ways for them to fight back locally. this is mary mccord, a 23 year veteran of the department of justice. during the obama administration she served as an acting assistant attorney general for natural security. she is a huge deal at the national level, as an expert on domestic security. this week she gave a talk on elections and public safety. that's a national election officials. but to the u.s. conference of mayors. mayors. she talked to them about the threats their citizens and their cities are facing, like they can do at the local level to fight back. joining me now is mary mccord herself, former acting assistant for national security. she's the executive director for the institute for constitutional advocacy -- and a professor at the georgetown university law center. miss mccord, thanks for joining me tonight. let me ask you, given your background, and where we are right now, do you see these attempts to intimidate voters

and monitor dropbox is, is this a domestic terrorism 2.0? >> i think it's a national security threat. these are threats to the very core of our democracy. these are threats to people's ability to feel safe voting. that's actually participating directly in our democratic processes. and if our democracy fails that we do not have assurance that people can safely vote. if people don't have confidence in the ability to go about. if they don't have confidence in the fact that their votes will be counted, they might quit participating. or the might be too intimidated to participate. and that is when democracy fails. that's a national security threat. because that affects the u.s.'s presence in the world. historically it's been locked up to as a real beacon of democracy, that's partly why we have been successful economically. and militarily, and in so many other ways. yes, it's about domestic extremism, but it's not just a

domestic problem in my mind. >> when you drill into the national security threat that this poses. i'm interested to understand better how these groups, it used to operate on a broader, national level like the proud boys and oath keepers. have they reorganize and retrench for the battle that lies ahead in november, can you talk a bit about that, these chapters have changed in the years and months since january six? >> yeah, i think it was largely a reaction to january six. in the immediate aftermath, there was incredible attention in some of these groups, and many of their members at least with respect to the proud boys and oath keepers, and the three percenters. they've had significant numbers of people charged with crimes, we have a seditious conspiracy trial going on right now in washington, d. c. against members of the oath keepers. so, there was a need to kind of put on a new face, change the strategy, so we did see some of the national organizations

disband at the national level in favor of local chapters. but it doesn't mean there isn't a national strategy. there's just not a single puppet master running at. what we've got, is a decentralized, localized, very grassroots effort. i think your clip of michael flynn explained it well. i use a different example with the mayors, they're focusing on county over country. capture your county, then a few, then maybe your state, but michael flynn said essentially the same thing last week, earlier this week in pennsylvania about getting at that precinct level, and my new, the same disinformation about the 2020 election, that fueled the violence on january six, 2021. that's the same disinformation today, nearly two years after the 2020 election, that's fueling all of these efforts to intimidate voters, threaten and intimidate election officials, and to try and thwart people

from exercising their fundamental, constitutional right to vote. and that's why it really is gonna take a strong response. part of the reason for talking about this, publicly, is not to give attention to the bad guys, but to put them on notice. what they're doing is illegal, it's a crime, it's a crime under federal law, it's a crime under state law. it's not protected by the first amendment. it's not protected by the second amendment. >> as you talk to people about this, the u.s. conference of mayors, for lack of a better term how on top of this are they? >>, well i think, many mayors and police chief sheriffs they know what's happening in their jurisdiction. but i don't think they always see how what's happening in their community have fed into

the bigger picture. and also, they don't always realize what tools may be available to, what strategies may be available to combat. one of the things, that i was doing alone with former chief chief chuck ramsey on monday was sort of provide a threat picture for what those of us who are working with private researchers, paying attention to what's going on the run across the country, we're seeing in terms of coordinated activity. and even again, there's no central coordinator as your intro showed, we have lots of different organizations. but they're all marching in the same direction. they're all encouraging these localized efforts. the four law force enforcement and public officials of different local level, state level, federal level, to have a good understanding, and be able to direct different countermeasures if you well. one of which is really in every local jurisdiction. you need to be preparing now. you need to be talking with the community. that means their local law enforcement, your

voting rights activists, the parties. you need to be getting on the same page with respect to protecting elections. and protecting election workers. and making strong statements, about the illegality of the intimidation. it's not always going to be appropriate to send law enforcement to places. in some jurisdictions, it can be even more intimidating than them not being there. you need to make decisions on a jurisdiction by jurisdiction basis. in some places, law enforcement part of the problem. -- which is, a fringe group of sheriffs that believe that they're the highest law of the land, subject to no other authority. and they're starting to meddle in election administration. it's another thing for people to be aware of, election officials to know.

the constitution we -- ask a lot of questions about election administration. go talk to your city attorney, district attorney, or your attorney general about what really authority, under law because the sheriff have. some of them are trying to overstep. >> the constitutional sheriffs movement is a frightening movement in the context of everything else that's happening right here. i want to ask you one more question about what voters can actually do, if they're in the middle of this, if they're dropping off a ballot, if they're at the polls. what practically is the correct countermeasure, if a voter feels like he or she is being threatened? >> they should be reporting it. what we do not want to do by calling attention to this is the voters from voting. quite the opposite, but if they learn about things or they see, experience things like people following them to their cars, taking note of their license plate, videotaping them dropping their ballots, asking them any types of questions about their qualifications, providing misleading statements about suggesting maybe they might be committing a crime.

if they're depositing more than one ballot, to be clear, that's not a violation of federal law, to deposit ballots for other people. it's not a violation of state laws as well. no need to understand, that when they see this type of activity, they should be reporting at. they should be reporting it to local, election officials or law enforcement, with the department of justice, whoever they feel comfortable reporting it to. >> vote and report. that's my take away from all of this. mary mccord, former acting assistant attorney general for national security, now executive director of the institute for constitutional advocacy and protection, and professor at the georgetown university law center. miss mccord, thank you so much for your time tonight. during a trip to syracuse, new york, president biden met with chuck schumer, the democratic leader was caught on a hot mic, giving the president a frank assessment of the midterms outlook for democrats.

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news about the economy, after two straight quarters of a low of u.s. economy shrank, the american economy actually grew by 0. 6% over last three months. that may not sound like a lot, but it's sort of the point here, right now the biden administration is trying to pull off a tightrope walk on the economy. if the economy grows too much, it can drive more inflation. but if it shrinks to much, it can plunge the country into a recession. so, it's not an easy balance to strike. and today's news is thus very positive for the country and for the biden administration. and there's more. gas prices have fallen today for the tenth straight day in a row, nearing $3 per gallon in some parts of the country.

but less than two weeks out from the midterm elections, the question is whether or not that kind of sound economic stewardship matters politically speaking at this point. the polls are tight. republicans are landing blows against democrats on issues like the economy, and crime. so, with 12 days left here, the white house is focused on talking loudly about what democrats have delivered, what republicans will not. here is the president biden's chief of staff ron mcclain, earlier today. >> i think the most important thing i can emphasize, is there is a choice about where we go from here. are we going to continue to do the things that will bring prices down next year that will control inflation next year, with the inflation reduction act, or will republican leaders in congress, succeed in repealing all those things, helping big corporations, cutting taxes, and seeking

prices for consumers, families. seeing those prices go up. that's the real choice between where the democrats are adding on the economy, and where the republican congressional leadership's headed on the economy. >> can democrats actually communicate that message to voters in time? should they be doing more? could they even be doing more? we have just the person to ask. joining us now is jan psaki, former white house press secretary, an msnbc host. -- so, it is a tightrope. admittedly, it's complicated, the economy is complicated, the messaging is complicated. on the one hand, there's good news, right, but then there's the reality. we keep getting these data points, bloomberg reports that almost 41% of households said it's been difficult or somewhat difficult to cover usual household expenses. the highest since that question was asked in 2020. and the share of eople saying it's difficult is even higher in battleground states, nevada, arizona, georgia. how do you say things are on the right track when for a lot of americans it's more complicated than that? >> no question. look, nobody talks about

macroeconomic data. or most people don't. >> jared bernstein does. >> but most people aren't talking about macroeconomic data in their driveways with their neighbors. so, good data is good data. they had the data today. what they do know at the white house, what you touched on. it's about how people feel. and now they're feeling about the economy. things that make you feel better, gas prices coming down, going to fill up your car and seeing that. and that's a good sign. but the big question is, whether this is going to be enough over the next couple of weeks. the last -- what they're trying to do. you saw the president do it today. is draw that contrast. he says, don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative. one of his favorite sayings. the question is, do people have the patience, the will to do that? >> it's not just the patients and well, it's this trope that

exists in american politics. that somehow republicans are better on the economy, no matter what reality and facts dictate and democrats are better on other, non economic related things, social progress for example. he's butting up against the clock, the clinical -- economic forecast and these stereotypes for lack of a better term. that seems really intractable with 12 days to go. >> the other piece i throw in that i think the big factor is the democrats are in control of the white house, the house, and senate. they control what other people feel like is everything, so when you're feeling frustrated, and you go to the grocery store, when you go to the gas station about the cost of things, you're gonna say, who's in charge, i want the other guy, or the other girl. and it's not always a logical, well, they have a better plan for inflation, which the democrats do. and that's one of the challenges when you're the party in power. >> you guys own it so you literally own it. you've been out in the field,

getting important data that we should be discussing. i want to try everyone's -- interviews while canvassing with planned parenthood. it's in braddock, pennsylvania. >> john fetterman's hometown. >> oh boy, let's take a listen to jen psaki talking to voters. >> josh shapiro, running for governor, he's gonna protect health care. he's also gonna protect our abortion rights. which are important as. well as you know, the supreme court just struck down roe v. wade. turned it back to the states. so, -- >> that's pretty ridiculous. >> so, what's most important for you as you're thinking about -- >> as a mother of four children, the jobs, they say all these jobs are out there, they don't want to pay enough for you to actually live off jobs. so, you know, i like there to be more jobs available, with the flexibility to be able to actually work and take care of your family, not have to worry about choosing one. i'm in that situation now. i need to go back to work, but i can't afford to pay for

childcare. or probably living off of maybe $400 a week, you know. which is more than some people make, but isn't enough for four kids. >> so, what strikes me about that conversation in addition to feeling a lot of empathy for a mom that's struggling like that. it's the way in which abortion is being seen as a separate conversation from the economic conversation. i wonder, what more can be done to link the two. choices about reproductive freedom are health care decisions, which have economic implications. but they're plainly, kitchen table economics. right there, choosing to have another kid or not. >> yeah, absolutely and that woman, amanda robert, i'll stick with me for a while. because of exactly what you said, she cares about abortion rights, she doesn't want to see them overturned, she wants our friends to be able to get an abortion if they want to. but she's trying to live her life with four kids. and can't afford to go to work because she can't afford childcare.

and that, that stuck with me because it's a reminder that people have a lot going along in their lives. to your, play with democrats really need to do is find a way to talk about this in a way where they're meeting people where they are, robbyn young, who, one of the canvassers that i followed around for the day. she said exactly that to me. when they go to houses, we're talking to people in the communities, you've done so much of this. do you know, how this. there's no relationship between how people in washington talk about these issues, and how you talk about with your friends and neighbors. that's really what stuck with me from the day that i spent with these canvassers in braddock. no one was going up to a door and saying, we're gonna codify roe, stick with us. nobody knows what that means. they're also not going up to doors and saying, we pass the inflation reduction act, so stick with, they're saying

we're for workers'rights, but for women's rights. what do you think about that? and that connection, that's something that's often missing between washington and communities. which is why it's so important to go out and talk to people. >> and the real world implications of having another child when you're not getting by, with four kids you have now. the complications of all that. i don't think they've been under stead, in terms of the national narrative. then there's this question, i wonder if you think democrats should think about this. we're hearing reporting a blue state malaise, multiple democratic strategists saying, the fear of losing the right to abortion is proving to be a less motivating factor in blue states. because voters believe their access to the procedural be protected by current laws and democratic control of state government. i mean, could that be contributing to the abortion question not being as motivating and resonant in some blue states where there are we lure tough races, or, washington state, california? >> it may be, alex. i think the truth is, if democrats, if we're wasn't overturned by the supreme court

we'd be talking about an absolute slaughter in a couple weeks. and it's motivating people, it's gotten people to registere to vote, and it's been an issue that democrats have made into an energizing, injection of caffeine into the democratic party that needed that. so, it may be a little malaise in states. that's something that people writing these races are very focused on. but overall, without that caffeine boost. i think democrats would be looking at an even more difficult night in a couple of weeks. >> some people say we were always gonna end up in this place, if you looked at the tea leaves in the early part of this year. it was always gonna end here. what's happening inside the biden white house? >> in terms of their communication strategy, on november 9th -- >> if you talk to them and asked them, i did -- >> do you think we're gonna? when >> they said we're gonna

forge ahead, but those people, there alex, who i worked with who've been around washington. they've been in the white house, congress before. they know that if republicans take the house, they look at the polls, they're not covering their eyes or anything. that what they're looking at is their agenda being overridden by lots of investigations, impeachments, impeachments, impeachments. and while all of that may be completely baloney, bogus, silliness, the fact is it'll be a huge oxygen stuck for the agenda. so while they simultaneously are the cheerleaders, they need to be, i wasn't surprised about what they said. they need to be the cheerleaders. throughout the same time, thinking about what that will mean. and what that will mean in 2023. >> jen psaki, my friend, always great to see you even when the news isn't exactly where you want it to be for democrats. >> they're still rays of light in the darkness. let's. hope >> jen psaki, former white house press secretary msnbc host, thank you as always. >> still ahead this hour, it's not just douglass hills, antisemitism has gone mainstream among republicans since the election season.

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social media pound of the gop tweeted this, quote, reminder that democrats want to defund the police, accompanied with a nine minute video to support their case. republicans have been running the election season on crime being out of control, warning that democrats want to add well, defund the police. >> 2020, murder and cincinnati at an all-time high. >> homicides are up 91%. >> greg klansmen's response, defund the police. >> and pelosi has her way, jones will do later to defund the police. >> -- it voted against funding law enforcement. defunding the police. you have, wiley nickel's a defund the police democrat. >> a defund the defund police democrat, locker. doors it brings me to a story out of texas, republicans through a political stunt through effectively defunding

the police. yes, you heard them run. republicans defunding the police. harris county, home to houston, populous county in texas. and the third most populous county in the entire country. with nearly 4. 75 million people, the governing body of harris county, something called the commissioner's court. it's made of the elected county judges, as well as two republican elected seats, and two democratic elected seats. democrats currently hold a majority. and tomorrow, it's the deadline for the commissioner's court to adopt the county's new 2023 proposed budget by the democrats. tuesday, was the group's last meeting to sign off on that budget. and fund critical city infrastructure. all of this is to say, having a seat on the five person governing body, is a big responsibility. but apparently, not to republicans. because on tuesday, the two republican commissioners boycotted the meeting. the last opportunity to approve that new budget. and they were protesting, the

new fiscal year is tax increases. that's why -- now the republicans on the commission's court, have been playing this game for mainz. tuesdays no-show marked the six consecutive time, depriving the court of yet another quorum. meaning the democrats were unable to approve that new budget, forcing this year's budget to remain in place. and this is a big deal, here is why, the republican commissioner in harris county, have now stopped millions, funding increases for really important things, like flood control, a public health system, and wait for it, the police. here's a houston chronicle, quote, the sheriff's office will lose 16 point $6 million for petrol and administration. including 8. 25% raises for frontline deputies. the harris county district attorney's office will lose out on a 5. 4 million budgeting grace. the eight county constables will lose a combined eight point $1 million. and to say, it's not the best time to limit law enforcement in harris county, from accessing millions and funding. to say that is quite an

understatement. because texas, harris county especially, are reeling from the effects of a new republican backed law, passed last year. that allows most people over the age of 21 to carry a handgun, without a license or training. the new york times reports, the new laws led to an increase in spontaneous shootings. in and around houston, located in harris county, prosecutors have received a growing stream of cases involving guns brandished are fired over parking spots, bad driving, loud music, add love triangles. the harris county sheriff told the paper, it seems like now there's a tipping point where just everybody is armed. the paper continues, in harris county, criminal cases involving illegal weapons possession have increase since the new law went into effect. the party of law on order, ladies and gentlemen. we'll be right back. realtor.com.

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you think israel's leader was the leader of america's jews as well? apparently so, he repeatedly referred to israel as your country. on hosting american jews of the white house. he also rapidly accused american jews who vote for democrats of disloyalty to israel. after the worst attack on american jews in history that killed 11 people. at the tree of life synagogue in pittsburgh. trump showed up to pay his respects and brought along the israeli ambassador. american jews don't have their own prime minister or their own ambassador, because there are americans. trump never grasped that he was their president. and then there was the casual antisemitism he dabbled in, implying jews control things are behind the scenes, with their money. during the 2016 campaign, you may remember he shared an image

of hillary clinton with a jewish star on top of a pile of cash. subtle. all of this stuff, it was blatant trump, but part of the same meal that republicans elsewhere were dining out on. the george soros stuff, the evil jewish billionaire puppet master controlling the world? it's like something out of a 1930s propaganda film. and the republicans have been running with that for years. so, it's always been there. but this moment that we're in right now, it feels different, more dangerous. yes, there's the very public meltdown of kanye west, as he calls for going death con 3 on jewish people. we learned kanye has a hitler obsession for years. and that he had to be talked out of titling one of his albums after the not see dictator, literally calling his album, hitler. then there's the neo-nazis hanging a banner over a freeway in l. a., saying kanye was right. there's donald trump saying this week, american jews need to get their act together before it's too late, whatever that means. and the total silence about that from republican party.

then there is the way antisemitism has become a sort of animated narrative and line of attack from a number of republican candidates in this year's midterm campaigns. whether it's gubernatorial candidates, doug mastriano in pennsylvania, with his rich history of ties to anti-semitic personalities, making insinuations about his opponents'jewishness. mastriano's counterpart in arizona, kari lake, who adores the wildly, publicly antisemitic republican candidate, to rescind the endorsement under pressure. at least she rescinded it. several other trump back in arizona never did. and it's not just the top of the ticket candidates either. this kind of stuff filters down. in texas, the railroad commissioner is a republican running for reelection. as democratic challenger happens to be josh. here is how the republican railroad commissioner capped off his pitch to voters on local tv this week. >> my name is wayne kristen, i appreciate your vote for railroad commissioner.

go to christian for texas. com. vote for the only question, by name on the ballot. >> nice. i see what you did. the only christian by name. but here is the other thing about what's happening with all this stuff. it's not a coincidence that all these folks are dealing in antisemitic tropes, from trump himself down through all his maga candidates across the country, that they're also election deniers. they're also pro authoritarian. open, in their admiration for authoritarians like viktor orban in hungary. it's not like these are normal conservative politicians who happen to have an antisemitism problem. autocracy and antisemitism always always go together. one look at the history of europe, or even just the present of europe. we'll tell you that. but now that insidious, potent brew is here in america. joining us now is oren segel,

vice president of the center of -- at the anti defamation league. like mr. segel, thank you for being here. does this moment feel different from you, on the outside, to me to those of us were just watching the news cycle. it feels as if things have gotten extraordinarily more dangerous? >> the jewish community feels very vulnerable. and you just commented on a whole series of way that the public officials, entertainers are normalizing antisemitism. it's coming at a time when we've documented, anti-semitic initiatives targeting the jewish community nationwide, vandalism, harassment, assaults are at an all-time high. the last year we did a full audit, it was 34% higher than the previous year. with violent incidents especially going up. so, it's in that atmosphere that we have entertainers who reach more people on twitter than there are jews on the planet earth. where we have former presidents, who are lecturing the jewish community about what they should be doing. it's no surprise, jews aren't feeling comfortable, and today as you mentioned, the fourth anniversary of the deadliest attack against the jewish community in american history,

the jews are asking themselves, what's going on. >> do you see this antisemitism as a poisoned, a poison that's cropped up on its own, or do you see it as a natural extension of the authoritarian embrace you see in certain neocon right-wing circles? >> a lot of the anti-democratic efforts we see in the country, efforts to undermine the democratic institutions, are based on conspiracy theories. a conspiracy theories eventually the more you dig in, you'll find antisemitism in there. it's the lifeblood of conspiracy theories. so, normalizing anti democratic movements, conspiracy theories, in some ways normalizes antisemitism because it's never far behind. but the second issue, is the ability to reach people faster, quickly, than any other time in human history through social media. it's a normalizing factor. where people don't even just espouse antisemitism, people

don't even recognize it when it happens. that's ultimately the most scary. >> i mean, i was concerned when i saw that viktor orban was speaking at cpac, that the mainstream of the republican party has embraced somebody like that. how do you reconcile that kind of establishment, republican response to somebody like that, in a moment when we are combatting such toxic, racial, antisemitic language and behavior? >> it's inexplicable. and it's not unique. it's not creative. it's ignorant. it's dangerous. and at the same time as we see cpac events, we have elected officials going to extremist events. literally. that are timed to be at the same time, and further normalizing that. if i could explain it, maybe we have an antidote. but we know, especially on the fourth anniversary, we need to recommit ourselves to the

families and the victims of that crime and say, we need to stand up and speak loudly and clearly, hold people accountable who normalize this hate. >> hold people accountable. what happens of kari lake, winsthe race in arizona? doug mastriano may not win in pennsylvania, but the idea that people who embrace antisemitism are antisemitic actors, and principles, what are the implications there for this country? >> i want to say. antisemitism is not a solder mane of any one political party, or any extremist movement. unfortunately, it's the glue that find strange bed fellows, finding common cause. but what we need to do, is what we saw frankly out -- in response to -- corporations, celebrities, social media, every day people say, this does not represent us. stop the normalization of antisemitism. that'll be a good start. >> and presumably not vote for those people as well if they're embracing antisemitism. oren segel, vice president of

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it appears that elon musk has sealed the deal to take over twitter. see nbc's david favor was the first to report tonight. according to unnamed sources, the deal is done and the current ceo and cfo of the social media giant have left the building and will not be returning. the washington post reported that the two executives were fired. along with two others, including the head of legal policy, trust and safety. tomorrow is supposed to be the deadline to finalized musk's 44 billion dollar acquisition or face renewal of the lawsuit that was meant to force him to make good on the offer to buy twitter. so the on again off again one mascara peers to be actually be beginning for real this time. and it appears that musk will get the opportunity to use the sink he was seen carrying into headquarters yesterday for reasons that remain unclear. and this, morning he tweeted a message to using win or the tornadic characters. promising that twitter can obviously not become a free-for-all hell-scape where

anything can be said with no consequence. musk has already fired the head of legal policy trust and safety, so we will see about that free-for-all help-scape promise and whether a certain twitter account that wants to coined the term covfefe is coming back. that does it for us, we will see you again tomorrow. >> the first time i heard that this was the most important election of our lives, was in 1968 when i was way too young to vote and the vietnam war was raging and there was a chance to stop that war. in the election of 1968. but republican richard nixon won the presidency, and the war raged on, and many times since then we have been told that we are facing the most important election of our lives, and sometimes it felt that way. now we are being told that again. but this time, this time it is for