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tv   Yasmin Vossoughian Reports  MSNBC  October 29, 2022 11:00am-12:00pm PDT

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introduced by the governor,
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gretchen whitmer. let's take a listen in to the former president now, speaking. >> you have two ways to vote. number one, you can vote early by going to your local clerks office and casting an absentee ballot and voting right there. you try that? it works. number two, you can vote at your polling place on november
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8th. if you need more information, you go to michigan.com slash vote to find out when. then you make a plan to vote. you don't want to leave it to the last minute and then something happens with your muffler. right? or, you don't want to mess up. then after you've got your plan and you voted, you have to help your friends and your family to make a plan to vote. because i'm assuming if you are here, you are likely to vote. my cousin, i like him, but sometimes he forget stuff. so you gotta get on him a little bit. you have to talk to him.
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uncle fred, he can forget. take them with you, if you vote early, or if you're voting in person on election day. this election requires every single one of us to do our part. it is that important. now, i think it's fair to say that this country has gone through some tough times these past few years. we have been through some stuff. we are just now coming out of a historic pandemic that wreaked havoc on families, on businesses, on communities, on schools. i was talking to the lovely principle of the school. [applause] there she is right there. by the way, one thing that happens as you get older,
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principles, police officers's, doctors, they all start looking really young to you. [laughs] are you sure you are in charge? she was describing how difficult it was during covid. everybody was impacted. a lot of folks lost people that they love. and the pandemic also highlighted that in some cases problems that we've been struggling with for years. an economy that all too often works for the folks at the very top as it works for very ordinary people. communities where there are too many kids who are out of school or out of work. they are out of hope, sometimes that leads them to violence and despair. and then you've got an erosion
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of just civility, acting right. including in our politics, our democratic norms. we've got politicians who work to stir up division, to try to make us angry and afraid of one another for their own advantage. all of it gets amped up, hyped up 24/7 by social media. a lot of times, those are for profit platforms and they find it more profitable to feed you controversy and conflict instead of facts and truth. sometimes it can turn dangerous. i want to take a moment to say a prayer for a friend of mine, mr. paul pelosi. [applause] he was attacked, 82
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years old, was attacked when someone broke into his home looking for his wife nancy. and thankfully, he is going to be okay. we will let the investigators do their job. here is one thing that we can feel, we can know. if our rhetoric about each other gets that mean, when we don't just disagree with people, when we start demonizing them, making wild, crazy allegations about them, that creates a dangerous climate. if elected officials don't do more to explicitly reject that kind of rhetoric, if they tacitly support it or encourage
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supporters to stand out outside of voting places, armed with guns, dressed in tactical gear, more people can get hurt. we are gonna be violating the basic ideal of this country. yes, sir, come on. this is what i mean, we are having a conversation. [noise] sir, sir, sir. sir, this is what i'm saying. we've got a process that we set up in our democracy. right now, i'm talking, you have a chance to talk sometime
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later. we like each other, we don't have to shut each other down. it's not a good way to do business. you won't do that out of workplace. if you wouldn't hunter up people in the middle of a conversation, that's not how we do things. this is part of the point that i want to make. just basic civility and courtesy works, that is what we want to try to encourage. so, listen, that's okay. wait, wait, wait. quiet down. >> hold up, hold up, hold on a minute. listen everybody, you all up
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there, pay attention. here is what happens, listen. this is part of, this is not only an example of what i'm talking about, but it's also an example of how we struggle. suddenly, we are all fighting. did you ever see that movie up? remember when the dog is talking, the squirrel. that's us with politics. we get distracted instead of focusing on what is important. [applause] so look, i get why people are anxious. i understand why people are anxious. i understand why you might be worried about the course of the
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country. i understand why sometimes it is tempting to just tune out, to watch football, watch dancing with the stars. but i'm here to tell you tuning out is not an option. moping is not an option. i didn't hope as a kid, but sometimes, all kids start to wind. my mother would be like, do you know, you know what will make you feel better? go clean your room. [laughs] do something useful. and i said, actually, that will not make me feel better. she said, all right, but it will make me feel better. we don't have time to mow. the only way to make this economy fair is if we fight for it.
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all of us, the only way to save our democracy is if we together work for all of us. that starts with electing people who know you and who see you, and who care about you, who understand what you are going through, day in, day out. you did that two years ago when he said joe biden to the white house. he is fighting for you every day. he has your back. he is doing everything he can to put more money in your pockets, to make your street safer, to bring back even more paying jobs to michigan. he did it when you voted seven out of seven. -- they work, by the way, in our white house to help save the auto industry. that is who you sent to congress. you did it when you voted for
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winner for governor, now you need to do it again. [noise] you gotta do it again. because there may be a lot of issues at stake in this election, but the basic question you should always be asking yourself, but especially right now, is who will fight for you. who is on your side? not, not who talks a good game, but who is walking the walk. we had a little photo before i came in here. and the new president. i was in the photo line and you don't have to believe what i say you can see what i do. there is a reason why the auto
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industry is driving here in michigan, it is because you chose people who cared about autoworkers and the communities in michigan. [noise] that is the kind of people you want representing you. that is the choice in this election. who is going to work and fight for working people who are struggling to pay the bills? inflation is a real problem right now. sometimes, we don't want to talk about certain issues. it is a problem not just here in america, it is a problem worldwide. it is one of the legacies of the pandemic that wreaked havoc on supply chains. folks in the auto industry understood what happened, you couldn't get parts. there weren't as many cars, the prices go up.
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so, that triggered inflation and then we have a war in ukraine that sent gas prices through the roof. if you see gas prices, grocery prices going up, that is taking a bite out of your paycheck. that hurts. the question is, the question is who is actually going to do something about it? the republicans talk about it, but what is their answer? what is their economic policy? we have another person yelling at me? is that what you're doing? we don't have to chant, it will be all right. where was i?
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wait, wait, wait, i was getting to that part here. remember what i said, don't be like that dog in up, squirrel. i want to be distracted. i was making an important point. inflation is a problem, what is the republican answer? if you they had a great answer, that will be one thing. but, you know what the big economic policies? they want to got social security and medicare and then give big tax cuts to the wealthy and some of the most successful corporations in the world. that is their agenda. by the way, that is their answer for everything. gaby knows, gary knows. back in 2008, 2010, inflation was low, employment was high.
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tax cuts for the wealthy, cut back on social security and medicare. it doesn't matter what the problem is, no matter what. if there was an asteroid heading towards earth, and we got everybody in a room and said, what are we going to do? i think we should cut taxes for the wealthy. no, that's not gonna help you. i was not going to help you? it is great, i guess, if you only have one answer to every economic problem. it's not like if you took a math test and he said, retire. those answers won't help you, that is why democrats have an actual plan. to take on drug companies, to get lower prices, to get the oil industry there. to pass laws to make gas more
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affordable. leaders like gretchen are working to ensure cars are built and high tech manufacturing is being done right here in michigan is so china. that is an actual plan. that is the choice in this election, this is what it is all about. you hear the republicans talk a lot about crime. crime has gone up over the last seven years by, the way. they act like it just happened just last year. t happenas if the previous prest wasn't there. by the way, you can just happen in so-called blue states, it turns out it has gone off in conservative rural states to. republicans are in charge. they don't mention that in the ads. here is the question, who will fight to keep you in your family safe? [noise] i like how the band
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chimes in. i see there, i see you. is it republican politicians who want to give more guns? they actually voted against more resources for police departments. is that leaders like gary peters, debbie sabinal, haley stevens, brenda lawrence, who worked with president biden to pass the first major gun safety legislation in nearly 30 years? that is what is at stake right now. michigan, who will fight for
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your freedoms? is it a bunch of about what can politicians and judges who think they should get to sign when you start a family or how many children you have, who you marry or who you love. or is that leaders like gretchen whitmer who believe that the freedom to make these personal decisions belongs to every american, not politicians in washington. that is the choice selection. that is why you have to decide. who is going to fight finally. who is going to fight to make our democracy actually work? i've been reading off on some of these candidates on the other side. lord have mercy.
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they have promise, they have promised that if they get control of congress, they will spend the next two years investigating their political opponents, according to joe biden. some of them said, they will impeach joe biden when they ask, they are not sure yet you are laughing but it is true. they are like, we are kind of trying to figure it out. here's the question, how is that going to help you and your family but if that is all they're spending the time doing? how is that going to help michigan compete, or do you stand a better chance with president biden and democratic leaders who have worked together, sometimes with
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republicans, to pass an infrastructure bill that will create their jobs. who have eight health care and prescription drugs more affordable, who have made the single largest investment ever to fight climate change. that is the choice in this election between politicians who seem willing to do anything to get power and leaders like gretchen who share our values. leaders who are practical and just want to make your lives better to move this country forward. and i be clear about this. sometimes, i'm at these democratic rallies and i feel, i feel a little sad about this because this hasn't always been such a startling partisan thing. my favorite president was a guy named abraham lincoln. he helped find the republican party. it used to be that there were
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gop members, including here in michigan, who were actually on board with civil rights and championed investment in our infrastructure. they believed in the rule of law. it wasn't that long ago, you might not agree with them on everything, but you can work with him. if they were neighbors, your friends, you can talk to them. there was a practical sense of how we get stuff done. but these days, just about every republican politician seems obsessed with two things. owning the libs, and getting donald trump support. that seems to be not currently at least actually solving the problems. they are interested in making
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you angry. and then finding someone to blame. that way, they are going to hope that you may not notice that you may be distracted from the fact that they don't really had any answers to your problems. i can tell you what she is obsessed with. with all the noise, all the nonsense going on, all the chatter and the tweets, the tiktok's, she is focused on the fundamentals. good jobs, lower costs, better schools, and fix the roads. [noise] now gretchen's opponent, her plan would slash billions of dollars from education. vote, brewing doesn't help.
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they can hear you do, but they can hear you vote. her plan would slash millions from the budget. as governor gretchen made the largest investment in michigan history. she did it without raising taxes by the way. she closed the gap between wealthy and historically underfunded school districts. something the last four governors here in michigan have tried and failed to do. she got it done. [noise] she put michigan to work repairing over 13,000 roads. that's a lot of road. now we'll take you to miami and
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back, more than four times. she is working to make sure that the electric cars that will drive on these roads are made right here in detroit, right here in michigan. that is what you want from a public servant. you don't want a lot of wild crazy talk. you just want someone to do their job. that is what governor whitmore is doing. i can imagine if you hired your plumber, you've got an overflowing toilet, that's a problem. he comes in and you're waiting for the toilet to be fixed. sir, have you heard about the latest conspiracy of the lizard people. he starts talking to you about all the stuff. we have to do something about. that ing to you would be like, no, ni
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just want you to fix my toilet. he would find another plumber. when you got a good plumber, you keep a plumber. when you have got somebody that knows how to do their job, keep them doing that job. [noise] i see you. this is great, i love having a band. i should just take the band around everywhere. i really do like that. best of all, governor whitmer, she really is willing to work with anybody to get stuff done. so far, she assigned more than 900 bipartisan bills.
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because creating jobs and fixing roads should not be a democratic or republican issue. it should be something that we can all get behind. her opponent has different ideas about this. she seems to be focused on the latest fox news conspiracy instead of what folks in michigan actually need. the other day, i did not realize this, i read about this. someone had to show it to me, the other day of video came out of governor whitmer's opponent claiming that democrats have been working for decades to topple the egot states because they are still upset about losing the civil war. covid restrictions were part of some massive plan to do this. first of all, what?
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what? i know some folks gout go down these rabbit holes on the internet, they stay up late. that is like a subway tunnel, that is the darkest rabbit hole i've ever seen. and by the way, it's not like this quote was from something quoted way back when they were in college, after a frat party bender. and they just said, something. you kind of want to forgive them. i've been there. i remember right after that game, we got a little stupid. she said this two years ago, two years ago. i guess that's what she actually thinks. imagine if instead of coming up
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with a story about how us having to watch tiger in sweatpants was somehow a government plot, imagine if she spent some time coming up with some ideas to create more jobs, or to give folks more health care, or to improve our schools. that is what you want from the governor of your state. [noise] someone who's focused on doing their job and focused on you. and then there is this. this is just an aside. i'm going to read you to headlines, both from the detroit news. one says, whitmer signed an order at lowering insulin costs in michigan. all right?
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second headline, this is the second headline. michigan governor hopeful, to door dixon eaten by zombies angry. . i don't actually have anything else to say. it is up to you folks. whoever you think is the better choice. come on. i love saying the storyline and the zombie film. it is probably more believable than what governor whitmer's supporters think after the last election. michigan deserve somebody who will work every day and fight for them. somebody who is already doing
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it. who has done it not just as a governor but for her entire career. and by the way, you also deserve somebody who will stand up for women's right to make our own health care decisions. you know, abortion is a controversial issue in this country. it always has been. and i generally believe there are good people who may differ from me on this issue. but we should all agree that women everywhere should be able to control what happens with their own bodies. it should not be controversial. to say that most, that the most personal effects carriageways's should be made by a woman and
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her doctor and not politicians. and that is why when the screen porch struck down over versus way, it was a wake up call for a lot of people, especially young woman who might have taken roe for granted. and it was a reminder that a politicized court can re-interpret what we thought was well settled constitutional rights. we can go backwards, we don't always disco forwards. i never publicans take back the house and senate, we can be one presidential election away from a nationwide ban on access to abortion. and that could be the beginning. look, i taught constitutional law for over a decade. i will tell you this. if a court does not believe in a zone of privacy that allows us to make certain decisions without their government interfering, then other freedoms that we take for granted are at risk. justice thomas has already said this much. if there is no right to privacy,
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then same-sex marriage will certainly be at risk and almost every republican in the house of representatives already voted against guaranteeing a right to use contraception. you think about that. and they take that power, no guarantee birth control and not be on the agenda. here in michigan, this is not theoretical. abortion rights are literally on the ballot. right, now a law in the books from 1931. that would ban abortion in michigan with no exception for rape or incest. and cutthroat nurses and doctors in jail. for a caring for women. this is a lot by the way, 1931, this law was passed when women could be fired from their jobs simply for being a woman. at a time when women were actively discouraged from getting an education. i'm going to college.
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governors -- strongly supports. it a law from 1930, one she thinks politicians have the right idea back then. you know, she probably thinks if she watches the handmaid's tale, she is thinking what is the problem? but you know what, the good news is, governor whitmer has other ideas. she has filed a lawsuit to block a 1931 law to kate modern laws? preserving these rights here in michigan. if you vote yes here on proposition three, you can stop this radical shift for good and restore the rights that women have had for nearly 50 years here in michigan. so, all of these issues are at stake in this election. and not just for people here in
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the auditoriums. for people watching, if that is not worth 15 minutes of your time, i don't know what is. by you know what? if you need another reason to go and vote, i will give you one more. and that is a fact that american democracy is also on the ballot. now, i have to admit that sometimes going on the campaign trail feels a little harder than it uses. not just because i am older and grayer. i don't know if you guys heard that. i'm sorry, what did you say? she said i was still fine.
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okay. [applause] i will not tell rachel you said that. although my shell does agree. she knows. but we are getting distracted. squirrel. i have touched on this before but i want to repeat this. back when i was first running for the presidency, but even before that when i was running for the u.s. senate, people did not agree with me on everything. but i can go into the community, mostly republican, mostly conservative and i could have a conversation. i got stuck in a bmw, i had to
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sit at the diner, have a piece of pie and have a cup of coffee. talk to folks about their lives, tell them about myself. they might not end up voting for me but they would say oh you know, he seems like a decent guy. we might persuade each other on some things. i had learned something because of that conversation. and that is by the, way high i ended up getting a whole bunch of republican votes. that seems crazy but i did. way back and that was only 2008. not too long ago. and then after i won, the republican candidate, my colleague in the senate, john mccain. graciously conceded. he wished me luck for the sake of the country.
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and it feels like that basic foundation of our democracy is now at risk. and you know, sometimes away this gets reported is that it's as if it is just the same on both sides. look, democrats, we may not be perfect. i am the first one to admit. no, hold on one second. i want to make this point. politicians just like all of us, we can make mistakes. nobody is perfect. but i know that somebody like -- i have worked with them, i served with them in the senate. they will still treat people who disagree with them with civility. and they will still listen to people and they will still try
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to come up with common sense solutions to problems that they would prefer working with people and not being divided. i know your governor feels the same way. and that is how our democracy is supposed to work. part of the reason it is harder now is because with few notable exceptions, most republican politicians right now are not even pretending that the rules apply to them anymore. they seem okay with just making stuff up. governor whitmer's opponent has falsely claimed that the 2020 election was stolen. now, and as refused to say whether she thinks joe biden has won. she just cannot bring herself to do it.
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and i just want to explain this. nobody likes loosen. listen, the first time around for congress and i lost a primary by 30 points. i got what i. and let me tell, you i was frustrated. i was frustrated to. do you know what i did not do though? i did not claim the election was rigged. i did not try to stop votes from being counted. and i did not incite a mob to storm the capitol. i took my lumps, i figured out while my campaign had not connected. i tried to run a better race the next time because that is how our democracy is supposed to work. [applause]
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i mean, that is how it supposed to work. just like you know when all of that time. you don't just tear the field down if you don't win. make a better team. have a better plan. but down tear down the game. don't tear down the rules. and, look i get the democracy might not seem like the top priority in right now. especially for a lot of folks, whether they look and they don't feel like it is working for them. when you don't see enough progress on issues that matter to you and your family. that can be frustrating but i have to tell you that i have seen and we have all seen, throughout history around the world what happens when you
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give up on democracy. we can see it in other countries where governments tell you what books you can and cannot read. countries that put dissidents and reporters in jail. countries where it does not matter we vote for because the outcomes are the deterrent. the people and power will do whatever they want, and where corruption is rampant because there is no accountability. when honest, true democracy goes away, people get hurt and it has real life consequences. that is why generations of americans fought and died for this idea of self government. the idea i may not agree with everything. i may not look exactly like you. i may not have the same last name as you and i may not worship in the same way as you do. but because we are all
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americans and we believe in democracy, we'll come up with a way to settle our differences peacefully and sometimes i will win and sometimes you away. and then we will have peaceful transfers of power. that is how this place is supposed to work. and these are rules that we teach our kids when they are little. these are not grown up, rules we start teaching these. michelle saw teaching million sacha this when they were too. be fair. be honest, share, rules about how they should make group decisions. you know? everybody gets a say. everybody gets a turn. if you don't get in your way, don't throw a tantrum. don't take your ball and go home. get over it, trying to do better than next time.
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and these are basic values. and that is what i mean that democracy is at stake in this election. and that is why it is so important to elect democrats like governor which bore who will stand strong with tops in a democracy. and make it easier for people to vote. people who won't lie conspiracy theorist or bullies keep them from doing what is right. and that's also why it is so important, you vote yes on top two here in michigan. watch will expand early voting and prevent state legislators from interfering and the certification of elections. let's get that done. prop too. and while you're at it, make sure to let's get people up and down the ballot. across the country, there are folks who try to undermine democracy and they are now running for office to oversee the next election. if they win, there is no telling what might happen. that is what we have to work
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just as hard like secretaries of state. like joscelyn as we do to elect governors and senators. two years, ago joscelyn stood up to smears and threats. to make it easier for folks in michigan to cast a ballot. she did the right thing. because she believes in the civil idea with every citizen deserves to have their vote counted. and that than i used to be controversial. these days at least in gop circles this. and it should not take courage to stand up for that idea. we are running against folks who don't believe in it. that is what we have to support joscelyn, you have to have her back because republicans who do not want to play by the rules. we have to keep jocelyn in that job. if things get close, that could make a difference. all right, they have to go someplace else, she has a camp in other places.
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she already got you. which brings me to my final point. you have to make a difference too. and we joke in my house that, michelle can be a little class have empty sometimes. i, she reads the news and sometimes, it can get her a little down. i am the open and change guy. so i'm usually a little more optimistic. so sometimes when she gets down about the state of the country, or the state of the world and i tell everything will be okay. and i believe it will be but i also know that things will not be okay on their own. we have to fight for it. we have to work for it. not just on election day but every day in between. that is why this election
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matters michigan. i know these are tough times what we have been through tough times before. nothing, is we can't given to the temptation to give up. we cannot turn and words, we cannot see politics as a zero sum game where anything goes. and the rules are broken, the only way that people like us win as of people like them lose. we cannot give into that kind of thinking. because in our darkest moments and there have been darker moments before. we have always had more in common than our politics suggested. even when times are tough. what unites us can be stronger than what divides us. there have been sorted values that binds us together as citizens, no matter who we are. where we come, from what we look like, who we love, that is the promise of america. that is who we are. and in this election, you have a chance to vote for leaders.
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like gretchen wetmore, and darlene -- joscelyn benson. and david muscle, regina tlaib who will fight for that big, inclusive, hopeful, forward-looking in america that we all believe in. on america that does not fear the future. that meets its challenges, honestly. and boldly. an america where we may not fix all of our problems overnight but where we could make things better. and better is worth fighting for. so if you are scared, if you are anxious, if you are frustrated, and don't complain, don't boo, don't tune out. don't get distracted, don't get bamboozled, don't fall for the okey dokey that says nothing we say or do matters, you go out and what? vote. get off of your couch and watch? put down your phone and what? vote for this incredible
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michigan democratic senator. tell your friends and your family and your neighbors, and your coworkers to do the same. and enough of us make our voices heard, things will be better. we will hear her heel with ails us. we want to -- restore democracy. we will build a country that is more fair and more just and more equal and more free. that is our test, that is our responsibility. let's get to work. thank you detroit. thank you michigan. i love you. let's go do it. ♪ ♪ ♪ there is a reason why the
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democratic party just ten days out from midterm elections marches out the former president of the united states there, barack obama. campaigning on behalf of michigan governor, gretchen whitmer, standing beside her there. that 45 minute or so speech. he is i think we all can agree, the rock star, the democratic party. making it known there and they won a very rock star moment and calling and response from the crowd and the message being, get out and vote. you started the speech off with getting out there in voting. urging folks to get out there and vote. and he ended the speech and saying, if you want to make a change, if you are frustrated, if you don't like what is happening in this country. if you are scared, if you are worried about the future of this country and democracy as you know it, get out and vote. talking about the economy, there specifically as we have seen numbers on the economy
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folks saying that their number one issue heading to the polls. in midterm elections and saying that the reason why we are here is because of the supply chain issue. because of a two and a half year long pandemic. and saying what is the republican plan here? it is to cut taxes for the wealthy. get out there and vote the democrats in your area. that was the former president's message, they're talking about abortion. talking about of course crime, republicans are getting out and campaigning on crime and saying that crime has been around for a long time. and it began to increase under the former president. let's bring in now, msnbc political analyst along with republican strategist, who has been standing by for us and watching the speech alongside all of us as well. as i started the saying off susan, there is a reason why the former president is considered a rock star in the democratic party. and it is kind of rolling out
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two weeks or so before the midterm elections because of messages like the one we just heard. really inspiring folks to get out there and vote. >> yes, what stood out to me is how much, how different it is from what donald trump goes out there doing. who goes out there to incite people with hate. barack obama went out there and inspired people with hope. and a message of voting, can you imagine? in this day and age that we have to encourage people to vote. and make sure that their vote is counted. i just thought it was actually, i was sitting here smiling most of the time and it was great to see him. i think he was enjoying it. >> yes, you know it is interesting susan as well because the former president talked about the fight for democracy right? that may not be your number one issue. we see the polling across the country really. akana me is the number one thing on many voters minds, although worrying about democracy in the fight for
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democracy. oftentimes number, to number three in some of the polling. he spoke specifically of the attack on speaker pelosi's has been, paul pelosi yesterday morning. wishing prayers for him and talking about the real divide that we see in this country. how politics is so different, how he was able to sit across from folks that he knew thought differently than him and i have a conversation and possibly they could say you know what? you are a good man, good intentions and maybe i will consider voting for you. he mentioned of course, what is happening in arizona as well. the armed folks that are watching ballot drop boxes as well. do you think this type of message is really resonating ahead of the midterms? >> it is resonating as a way to inspire people to get out and vote. that is why you bring out barack obama with ten days to go, to get people to the polls to increase turnout. i also think it is to bait
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donald trump because every time people talk about donald trump, it is bad news for republicans gunners for democrats. you have a winning message and frankly a winning ex president. former president compared to the most former or recent former president. and you use barack obama every where possible. you have been working for you every single day and every hour of that day. >> yes, certainly seems in the last hour or so, working for the democrats. susan del percio, we thank you and this is not the only stop for the former president today. we are following his movements throughout the day as he is really being put to work ahead of the midterm elections. i also mention obviously what is happening in the state of arizona, former president there mentioning it in his speech in detroit. and we are following the new developments as voters out into the polls are in arizona. federal judge has in fact ruled on conspiracy theories taking up ballot boxes have a right to be there. the trump appointed judge refusing to issue a restraining
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order against the right-wing group citing that the first amendment. joined now by marc elias, cofounder of democracy docket and partner at elias law group which in fact filed that lawsuit. mark, thank you for joining on this. we appreciate. at the former president mentioning what is happening there in arizona. i know that you filed an appeal, i believe with the ninth circuit. what was your reaction initially to the decision by the judge? >> obviously, like many people, i was quite disappointed by the decision. the first amendment does not grant people the right to intimidate voters. first amendment is not a blank check to stick up college of boxes and try to demonize people who are voting. through a legal way that is authorized by arizona law. the first amendment is not a gun to be held to the head of democracy. itself so we filed an appeal with the ninth circuit which is
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a court that oversees the district court in arizona last night. we filed a brief seeking an emergency stay. before that court and we will see where we go from there. what i can say to republicans and conservatives that if you intimidate voters. if you engage in a -- suppression, you will wind up in court. >> it's interesting, the former president talks a little bit about this in the fight for the democracy and the speech just now. and he wrote something similar in your opinion piece for democracy docket. the gop no longer presents voter suppression, election subversion with awake and a nod. and enthusiastically embraces these anti-democratic tactics. there are no dog whistles left in the gop. they've been replaced by blaring sirens of authoritarianism. it is fascinating to think that they are doing this at this point so blatantly right? without any apology. how do you protect really democracy, especially when the
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judicial system makes a decision like they just did? >> look, this is what is dangerous right? it is dangerous when a political party is tolerating racism. it's dangerous when a political party is tolerating political extremism. it's another thing when the political party itself is an amplifier of misinformation. or disinformation about election. or is actively stoking the kinds of activities that we are seeing going on right now in this country. around voting and around democracy. what i say to folks is that, we cannot rely on the court's law. courts are an important part in the fight against authoritarianism and for free elections. it is the responsibility of every american to stand up in their town square and speak out against what we are seeing. it is important that we all vote, voting is not enough. we need to speak up and
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denounce the kinds of things that we are seeing right now from the right wing and from the republican party. >> marc elias, thank you for joining us. we appreciate it. also, take us overseas everybody with breaking news happening out of south korea. we are learning now officials they're saying at least 120 people have died following a crowd surge at a halloween festival in the capital city of seoul. we will have a live report on this right after a very quick break. be right back. be right back. bipolar depression. it made me feel trapped in a fog. this is art inspired by real stories of bipolar depression. i just couldn't find my way out of it. the lows of bipolar depression can take you to a dark place. latuda could make a real difference in your symptoms. latuda was proven to significantly reduce bipolar depression symptoms. and in clinical studies, had no substantial impact on weight. this is where i want to be. call your doctor about sudden behavior changes or suicidal thoughts. antidepressants can increase these in children and young adults. elderly dementia patients have increased
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