tv Yasmin Vossoughian Reports MSNBC October 30, 2022 11:00am-12:00pm PDT
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as democrats get a jolt of adrenaline from former president barack obama. >> i've been reading up on some of these candidates on the other side. lord have mercy! this guy, a republican, they are not interested in solving problems. they are interested in making you angry. and then finding somebody to blame. they are hoping that will distract you from the fact that they don't have any answers of their own. >> a new move by the doj that doesn't appear to be good news for the former president, donald trump. as the cdc warns about an already potent flu season, we have got just the man to answer questions about the triple damik of flu, covid, and rsv. how quickly can you be reinfected with some of these viruses? >> that is, again, you are absolutely correct, that's a good question. >> anthony fauci answering
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viewer questions. that is ahead as well. really informative conversation. you don't want to miss that. you -- let's start in california. nancy pelosi sharing her thoughts for the very first time since her husband paul was brutally attacked in their home early friday morning. the speaker releasing a statement saying this, that the attack has left her family traumatized and heartbroken. that her husband's condition continues to improve. joining me now is -- national security analyst and former fbi special agent clint watts. welcome to you both, guys. thanks for sticking with us on this. let's talk through some of the details. we know, on monday, we will be learning what in fact the assailant will be charged with. what more do we know as this investigation is progressing? >> yasmin, that investigation is still very much ongoing. i want to note for you, just before we came on the air, we
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are standing outside nancy pelosi's home, we did see her exit her home and leave with police detail. we don't know if she's going to visit her husband at the hospital where he still recovering from that surgery for a skull fracture. he also suffered serious injuries to his right arm and hand. we do know, from police and the district attorney i spoke with yesterday, that they have interviewed the suspect who was also still in the hospital. we don't know exactly why. we expect to see him charged with attempted homicide, assault with a deadly weapon, several other felonies involved in the break-in, as well as burglary. i asked the da how they came to these charges. i want you to hear some of what he told me yesterday. >> you take a hammer to somebody's head in that violent of a fashion, we believe you are trying to kill them. it is certainly a wake up call that we've gone too far in this country as far as political discourse is concerned. >> and when she speaks about that political discourse, she was referring to the fact investigators are reviewing
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online activity associated with a suspect over the last few decades. investigators have told nbc news that there have been a mix of extreme ideologies from the suspect. it's important to know some of those left-wing thoughts the suspect had posted were more than 15 years ago. the more recent far-right conservative wing conspiracy theories, that he had been posted very qanon type theories was more recently in recent months. you have republicans on sundays -- speaking out about the rhetoric we've seen percolating online. rick scott, on abc, saying we've got to figure out how to bring the country back together. we have a civil conversation and no violence. he called what happened to paul pelosi despicable. this brings into question the conversations that happen online matter, right? elon musk this morning tweeting, spreading another conspiracy theory about paul pelosi's attack. just kind of emphasizes what exactly we are seeing in terms of when the leader of twitter,
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the new owner of twitter spreading misinformation, disinformation intentionally. people are concerned that could have more real life impact than what we saw here with paul pelosi just last week, yasmin. >> appreciate those details. thank you, more. cliff, let's get into some of this. the details of this incredibly disturbing. we seem to be at a real inflection point here. you look at how speaker pelosi has really been kind of the -- you know -- the bogeyman for the democratic party, for quite some time. they have been focusing, it seems, there i are on her. let me read for you a quote. from 2006 to january six, she's been the target of every kind of right wing conspiracy and hate. you cannot feed people poison for years and then be surprised with what they do, it is toxic. former top official of the democratic national campaign committee. what do you make of this? if you think because of all
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these persistent threats towards the speaker and also, subsequently, as we see now, her family, there should have been more protections in place? not only for the speaker, who we know is being consistently protected, but her husband? >> what's interesting is it's not surprising that there was an attack. it was only surprising that it happens in the way that it did happen. the attacker is essentially unknown. jasmine, what we talked about repeatedly with you and on many of these segments over the past few years is domestic terrorism. using the media, you're using things like social media to demonize people, elected officials to, demonize things like election workers or those working in covid-19 response, it leads to those people being attacked all over the world. particularly those speaking that targeting language advocating for violence have an outsized following. we've seen that with the former president and many political leaders now.
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a lot of conservative media targeting the speaker of the house, pelosi. it's no surprise that he was the target. when you are looking at millions of audience members that are believing these conspiracies, whether it's qanon in one part, many other are, many dozen, i should say, other conspiracies related in an election year, 2022, the tensions rise. it gets really heated. the closer you get to election day, the more likely you will see attacks like this. if then it becomes a question of how you defend. i think she didn't have those kinds of protections around her and her family at all times, it is a disservice to her. this is not surprising. it is sad and shocking but not surprising based on the vitriol you see in the online space. >> -- how we saw speaker pelosi leaving her home earlier, we have video of the speaker leaving her home we were able to catch. there she is, approaching her vehicle on her way somewhere within the san francisco area.
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you talked about this, cliff. one of the major concerns in these threats against lawmakers, specifically, especially during election time, is how to track these folks, right? there was someone who was quoted in politico essentially saying, listen, it's whether or not we are actually looking at the right channels. these types of people, especially these types of attackers, are not necessarily communicating on a regular kind of lines in which we are monitoring. >> yeah. and least -- most of them had been pushed to the far corners of social media. minor traffic websites like gaby, get her, these sort of frames, that's where you might encounter this hate speech toward political figures. i can tell you that this can be tracked. but since january 6th, just look at the number of times there is been incidents at the capitol. post january six. every time we have one of these
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incidents, it increases the likelihood someone will copy that sort of targeting pattern or the target, that pelosi's. the other thing is, we've had a lot of hearings this january 6th. we've seen director wray, defer members of the fbi, go up and talk about their challenges trying to preempt something like january 6th or targeting against speaker of the house pelosi. it has never come to pass, at least since i have worked in the domestic terrorism spaces, any indication of law enforcement that's allowed to do in terms of watching out on social media platforms and trying to preemptively detect this. al-qaeda or isis, we would have -- inspired case. we try to pursue that. right now, there is no such justification to get law enforcement on its toes. it's up to legislators at capitol hill to develop that sort of structure so we can do that. >> if what happened at the baseball game in which steve scalise was injured, and what happened on january 6th, now this attack on paparazzi, if
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those are not indicators enough that lawmakers are currently under threat in this country, it seems as of coming more under threat, i don't know what is. clint watts, appreciate you, thank you. let's talk midterms for a moment, folks, if we can. midterms, they are rapidly approaching. we are about nine days away at this point. you've got top lawmakers tasked with electing more members of their respective parties. speaking this morning on cbs, take a listen. >> i'm sure people would like to talk about anything but what the democrats have done in this country. 6000 assaults since the beginning of the year, margaret. those are the issues top of mind for every voter in this country. that's why they will show up on november 8th. that's why republicans are going to win. >> the maga crowd is in the pocket of the nra. it won't touch the common safe by partisan gun safety legislation which we passed through the house. we have a record of results supporting good policing then going after gun violence. that's what people need to
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know. don't punish the people who are fixing your problems. don't reward the people who are trying to exploit the problems for their own political power. >> both parties making their closing arguments as we heard. democrats are getting a boost from the former president, president obama, making his return to the campaign trail, as we saw yesterday. let's go to nbc -- in milwaukee, where the former president spoke. you and i, shaq, we spoke yesterday ahead of, of course, the former president's speech after you left detroit. talk us through exactly the expectations here that the democratic party and the former presidents role in all of it. >> the expectation is that all that energy that you saw in that gymnasium yesterday, in milwaukee, turns into people turning out to the polls. that's why you're seeing operations like that when you are seeing today. you might see mandela barnes running for senate up against ron johnson. you will see him in the packers green back there. this is a souls to the polls
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event, folks coming from church, right here to the early voting location, across the parking lot here. that's where i met miss sandra here, stepan over next to me. you were thrilled to be voting and casting that ballot. you said it was very important. why was it so important? >> because i have grandchildren. i have great grandchildren. i want them to come out and vote and support their community. not only that, you know, this -- based on their lives. they are our future. this is why i am out here voting. i'm so excited because they coming to vote also. i have a 20 5:30 year old, i'm telling them, go vote, go vote. it really means something for them to vote. >> in wisconsin, you had so many campaign ads, people knocking on your doors, calling your phone. what issues did really connect with you? what issues were you talking about when you cast that ballot? >> what really connected with me is, that we get somebody that really loves us and wants
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to work for us and really do the right thing for our youth. when we go on in life, we have our youth. we want our youth to know, to go out and vote. it is crucial, it is mandatory for them to vote. it's based on their lives. >> thank you so much. i can't let us go without seeing your dance that you showed me before. what's your voting day dance? there you go! all right. she was doing this in the polls. there you see it. this is what they wanted. the energy in the gym to go directly to the polls. >> go vote, everybody! please go vote! >> go sandra! go sandra! i think after seeing that we can all have a best day. if sandra cadence is through our lives like that, we will all have a smile in our face. especially with everything
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that's going on. thank you for that, shaq. i loved it, thank you. >> absolutely. >> from there, we will go to arizona, more than 800,000 have already voted and an increasingly tight race at that can help determine control the senate. we are keeping a close eye on the race for governor, where current secretary of state katie hobbs's neck and neck against republican kari lake. nbc's vaughn hillyard is in the phoenix suburb -- katie hobbs just held a rally. i don't know if you can top we just experience with shaq there. >> i can't. >> i'm going to give you a chance. i mean, you can dance, than. that always works for us as well. talk us through hobbs's messaging, if you will, ivan, as we are hearing about this rally. >> shaq is the only one that condense on our television as far as i'm concerned. i think most of our colleagues would agree with it. as for the actual election, there hasn't been too much to
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consider out here, let's be frank about it here. there is a lot of exasperations, anxiety, especially on the democratic side right now. when you look at polling, it is so close that you really focus on both sides you don't know which direction this is heading here. when you're talking to democrats they see up and down the ballot you see not only for governor and secretary of state, as attorney general, these candidates who claim that donald trump actually won the 2020 election in arizona, which we know is not true. when you are looking at the polling, there's a very real potential outcome in which each of these republicans win these down ballot races here. that is why, just a bit ago, we were with katie hobbs as she kicked off campaign canvas here with folks going to knock on doors here in this particular neighborhood, where not only does she need to win independents, but also conservatives who show a willingness to votes for the like of kyrsten sinema, joe biden in the past. are they willing to vote for a democrat like her? again, here in 2022, i asked her just a few moments ago what
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her closing message is in a state of arizona. take a listen. in state of ari>> this is our racet democrats or republicans, but sanity over chaos. my opponent has no qualifications to lead the state. she showed over and over again, and she's more interested and pleasing the former president then working for -- her first response to anything as to not call out these acts of political violence but to accuse them -- it's ridiculous. it's disqualifying. >> this is the last full week for these campaigns and they're planning events across the state of arizona. we're 15 miles from here last night alongside kari lake. as she held a rally alongside senate candidate blake masters. the attorney general candidate -- yasmin, kari lake and republicans here from the other campaigns will acknowledge to you that kari lake, polling shows is doing better than
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those other republican candidates despite all them being close. she's trying to drag them along over the finish line with her. and i've been told, she believes and is making the case that if she were to be governor. she needs the likes of mark finchem over secretary of state, an attorney general to be able to argue cases on behalf of the state of arizona. that's where you see both sides here. making their last. plays especially in the greater phoenix area. maricopa county, 60% of the electorate will come from, we'll be hanging -- course of the night next nine days, now he has been. >> vaughn hillyard. thank you, elon, appreciate. it we're also tracking key house races that can determine the balance of power. a new report out from nbc news, showing democrats are ramping up the spending in blue districts that the president won back in 2020. districts that republicans are now targeting. i want to bring in one of the authors of that piece, then
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cameras, our deputy political director, van, thank you for joining us on this. let's talk through if we can add, some reporting here. what are democrats spending the most? >> we're seeing, obviously, the battlegrounds been the battleground in the races that continue to be front of mind in places like michigan, wisconsin. places that have been on the battleground. folks sometimes don't remember that this is actually one of the narrowest margins that democrats have in the house. that they've had, that they wanted to flip, excuse me, the narrowest margins that republicans have needed to flip in decades. there aren't that many races that republicans can win in order to expand the map, and take control of the house. i think any warning sign for democrats across the board should be problematic. we're seeing a lot of the spending in recent weeks, in these deep blue districts, california, new york, places
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that democrats should be better and. but unfortunately, for them they're having to dump millions of dollars in these last weeks. >> okay, that's the house side of things. let's talk to the senate here as well. i want to give you an assessment and how you think about. it unless they can pull off an upstate in north carolina, ohio, or wisconsin, democrats will need to win two or three closest senate races, georgia, pennsylvania, and nevada will also holding arizona and new hampshire. what do you make of this? >> it's spot on. it's similar to the house. months ago, they were questions can democrats expand the majority, can they push in republican areas. the senate was similar. can democrats push further into their majority. it turns out a couple of weeks to go before the election, the wisdom flipped. it turns out it's rivers back to the mean. it's hard for the presidents party to expand seats in midterm elections. this is what we're seeing as
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the political reality now. a lot of these states could've been on the board, they're not at the battleground as it's always been is down to those three states it's gotta be -- he can hold on. it'll be arizona, whether he can hold on, nevada whether or not cortez masters can hold on any two or three there is gonna decide. >> then cameras are thank you, we appreciate it, we have a lot more ahead on the show, a look at the closely watched midterm's race in nevada has been mentioned it can decide the balance of power, we'll drill down on that. then there is another deadline looming, days away from now or i should say days from now the former president in connection with that subpoena from the january six committee. we're looking at november 4th for a deadline when it comes to those documents but also the latest development in the deadly stampede during a halloween celebration. it left more than 150 people dead. a live report on that coming up,
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breaking news out of india. where at least 60 people are now dad. more injured after a pedestrian cable bridge collapsed. a local reports in the western part of the country are saying, hundreds were on this bridge when it suddenly collapsed and plunged into a river below. officials -- recently reopened to the public. it gave way to the high number
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of people on it. let's turn now to the devastating news out of south korea. for over 150 people were killed in a stampede during halloween celebrations in school. according to the state department, two americans were among those killed, it was the city's first large-scale carving since the pandemic began. joining us from seoul, south korea, as nbc news contributor thomas mariska. thomas, thank you for joining us. what happened here? >> that's really the question everyone's trying to answer, beyond the basics that we know. it's 154 dad. too many people trying to fit into two smallest race, narrow alleys tens of thousand people or there. but beyond that, there hasn't been an official account of how this all went down, was there inciting incidents. there's no official report yet. that's just the question that everybody has spoken to around
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here. they've asked, how did this happen, how could this happen. it's still so [inaudible] >> i think we're having connectivity issues with thomas. we'll try to get him back, obviously, it's an incredibly important story. but it seems as if the details are still emerging from this awful tragedy as thomas mentioned. 154 people now dad at this halloween festival in seoul, south korea, because of a stampede and not anybody knowing why, what really incited this stampede. as we get more information as to what happened, will bring it to you as quickly as possible. thomas mariska, thank you for that. coming up everybody, why a hand count of mail-in biles biden had a county controlled by election deniers has been halted. we'll be right back. we'll be right back. stories of bipolar depression.
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for the president with much of his focus playing the role of campaigner and chief for hit, for the midterm election. millions of voters this week have cast ballots just like the president who's joined by his 18-year-old granddaughter. who voted for the first time in their home state of delaware. gary graham back strata travel with the president willington, delaware, and joins us. now gary, we saw the video yesterday he cast his ballot off 4:30 pm eastern time yesterday as i mentioned alongside his granddaughter. just a couple days out from the midterm elections. what is his message this week and and where is he headed next to rally votes? >> president biden had all weekend much like the weekends of millions of americans. he went to his granddaughter's field hockey game. he voted early. he went to church. he was doing that in wilmington,
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while democrats across the country hats -- we saw former president obama in michigan, less conson, first lady in new hampshire, new york. bernie sanders out west. -- including the inflation reduction act and the ships act. you have to understand, biden has to contend with the idea that candidates and some of these really big close races don't want to be seen on stage where the president who has an approval rating in the 40s. that's simply just a fact here. biden himself needs to understand. but he went to philadelphia and he campaigned with democrats across the state of pennsylvania including john fetterman. there's been a number of questions as to how voters will respond to john fetterman's performance in the debate against dr. oz. president biden did talk about that yesterday with -- here's what he had to say. >> yeah, i thought he was really. good i thought he knew what he was doing i thought he was strong and fetterman is
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pennsylvania. fetterman is everything that he appears to be you know where he stands he has good courage she has no reluctance. he's my kind of guy. i think he's gonna be fined. he's getting better and better. he had a stroke, he's recovering, thank you all very much. >> so, president biden does have a busy week coming a hand as you mentioned. he's heading to new mexico, florida to campaign for candidates there. it will be spending midterm election even maryland with democrats. >> gary graham back, good to talk to you. as promised, let's turn to nevada, a key swing state that can discern the fate of the summit, early voting is well underway and the latest numbers come from nbc showing just 300,000 votes cast so far with no democrats and republicans getting their ballots and. that's not surprising cities. i want to bring in jon ralston, ceo of the nevada independent, and nbc political contributor.
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-- there's a couple days ago, john, i asked folks on the ground there and republicans if that cast a ballot there. they said no, they didn't believe in it. and, so they were gonna wait till election day to go and vote. it's not surprising to understand and see of more democrats casting their ballots now versus republicans, can we start in washout county, in nevada, decidedly as nbc's reporting purple. you have cortez masto along with last saw focusing their race on this county. talk us through it? >> so, this is a swing county in nevada. it's a place where we know, the other relatively large urban area, and it's decided elections in the past. the way that elections work is that democrats win big in clark county. which is where las vegas is. and they lose big in 15 rural counties. and what happens in washoe
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county is very, very meaningful. republicans have a slight registration edge right now in washout county. it's one and a half percent. what happens, is the democrats have about 3% edge. so we don't know, obviously how those ballots are gonna translate into votes. but if the past is prologue, it means the democrats are holding their own in -- they're gonna need to. it looks like the margins in clark county, las vegas, isn't as big as it usually is. , let's also talk quickly, about a secretary of state candidate jim marchand. the state supreme court, on friday ruling that his unprecedented to bypass voting machine, was in fact illegal, it seems as if not sean wanted to spread voting by hand across nevada county. what do you make of this and
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how deep does, election concerns, election conspiracy theory spread in the state of nevada? >> i'm arguing the nevada doesn't get enough attention, it's one of those cases it's getting too much attention. jim marchand's one of the worst election deniers, conspiracy theories in the country. he believes in all kinds of 90 stuff, he got an eye county which is a relatively large rural county, to adopt >> -- -- he got installed there in clark, an election denier, there is a lot of concerns that started this hand count, which of course isn't as reliable as a machine count, they have to shut it down after -- counted only 15 ballots and people were talking. it's occurring though and we've written about this in the independent all across rural nevada. where you have election deniers trying to say things about machines and try to institute and counts.
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which of course -- almost anywhere. >> and then there's a latino vote. one in five voters in the state of nevada are latino. polling showing incumbent senator catherine cortez masto, leading amongst latinos. 60% to 27. quite a lead there. how are both -- how are they courting with the latino vote? >> cortez masto of course is the first and only latina ever elected to the u.s. senate so she can't hold the kind of numbers you just showed in that poll, she's in big trouble she has not throughout her career, warner heritage on her sleeve it's come out a lot more, laxalt of the republicans have done more to try to appeal to disaffected or -- high inflation, and gas prices, and think maybe the democrats have taken them for granted they've taken a fortune and spam itch in this state to get
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to cut into that lead. she needs to hold that 60% where i think she's in trouble. >> then you have the icing on the cake, 14 members of adam laxalt family writing a letter endorsing cortez masto what is it say about your candidacy when something like this happens. all it other jets judge, that family dispute sucker all the time but usually fought over the dinner table to go public with that just as they did by the way when laxalt ran for governor in 2018, it really says something they've taken a slightly different approach this time these 14 family members i believe they're only 12 in 2018. in 2018 they went after laxalt and talked about how he's not qualified to be governor. this year, it's gushing endorsement of catherine cortez masto. but the effect is the same which is to shock people who
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a short time ago, ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy accuses russia of creating famine conditions for a number of countries around the world. it's coming after russia's decision this weekend to block ukraine shipment of grain, to multiple countries in the region as proof. ukraine's infrastructure minister posted these images of a ship loaded with grain intended for ethiopia. now at a dead stop. russian officials saying the decision was made after accusing ukraine of drone attacks in crimea. u.s. authorities say moscow is now aggravating global food shortages. pharmacies across the united states are reporting shortages of a loxa cell and, the most widely used antibiotic. it's commonly prescribed to treat bacterial infections including ear infections, ammonia, bronchitis as well.
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-- could continue through the winter. when infections can search. at this time, it's not clear what's actually causing the shortage. or just how long this could last. and doctors are setting the alarm of this weekend concerned about pediatric hospital beds filling to capacity. the reason, the so-called tripledemic, covid-19, the flu, and rsv cases on the rise across the country. according to the cdc, flu related hospitalizations are rising across all age groups. and much higher than normal this early in the season. officials in texas confirming a heartbreaking story about a three year old girl passing away from future flu related respiratory symptoms. it's the county's first pediatric flu death of the season. to get answers we went to the top to speak with dr. anthony fauci. we asked similar questions about what we should know. >> let me ask you the first
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question, dr. fauci, this is from kathleen in boston. she has a one year old daughter, brigitte, who she suspects contracted rsv twice in two months. she asks this, when can we get an rsv vaccine, doctor fauci? >> while, there's no rsv vaccine available right now. we're working very, very intensively in trying to develop one as quickly as possible. we'd hope within the next year to do, but it's not gonna be the season, jasmine. >> another question rsv from alex, a mother of two in miami, florida. dr. fauci, asking that is, do you anticipate rsv is gonna be impacted adults as well, lanny news has been focused on children? >> that's an excellent question. the answer is, yes. particularly the elderly. this can be a series for the elderly for normal middle aged, young person, rsv generally
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will infect you but it won't make you very sick. if you're an elderly person, you're vulnerable to the serious consequences of rsv. >> let's pick up with julia from virginia asking this, since it's colder out. and we have both flu and covid combined. an older about to be thinking about masking when they go indoor? >> that's a good question, and that is something that is a personal choice. and it really depends on the level of infection that is in the community. when you're in a winter months, and you're in an indoor congregate setting. we're not talking about mandating masks, we're talking about good judgment, particularly if you're a vulnerable person. >> dr. fauci, this next question is a good one, oftentimes when we get sick, especially during covid times. if you're not quite sure what it is, until you get tested, you wonder if it's a common cold, a flu, covid. and this next question resonates with -- asking that, it's gonna person contract both flu and covid at
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the same time? >> the answer is, yes. you can get covid infected with viral infections. there's no reason not to. generally, that does not happen. but you can simultaneously get exposed to flu and cold, get infected with both of them at the same time. there's no reason that that does not happen. >> lots of good answers there ahead of what could be a triple dominic this winter. our thanks again to dr. fauci for joining us. after the break, the former presidents trouble with documents continuing. that's donald trump. and a new move from the doj, will not make him feel any better. we'll be right back. right back.
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with the right balance of risk and reward. so you can enjoy more of...this. this is the planning effect. welcome back the first deadline of the january six committee subpoena, former president donald trump is this friday. trump's team have until then to turn over documents related to the investigation. all this happening out of that the -- former president himself appear before the panel for testimony on november 14th, for more i want to bring in with glenn kirschner, glenn, talk to us. we got until friday, we're waiting for november 4th to come and go. well in fact the former president's team provide documents that were asked for by the committee, what are your expectations for that deadline, is there's some sort of
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challenge, both at the former president and his attorneys can file between then and then to run out the clock? >> they can try to file a court challenge. they've done that before. the best indicator of what we might expect from donald trump meeting or defying this deadline. is how he dealt with it earlier subpoena. and that is a grand jury subpoena for the return of the documents that he stole from the white house, and was unlawfully concealing at mar-a-lago. that was a subpoena that was issued as part of a criminal investigation by a grand journey. frankly, that subpoena had a whole lot more teeth to it, by way of enforcement mechanisms available for defying that subpoena. a congressional subpoena doesn't have the kind of robust enforcement mechanisms that a grand jury subpoena has. and how did donald trump respond, he basically blew it off. and he continued to unlawfully conceal the documents. why in the world we think that he would comply with
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congressional subpoena for documents? >> just to be clear here, the committee is asking for two sets of documents, one was any communications leading up to an on january six, between the trump white house an extremist groups that took place, that took part of the january 6th insurrection. and any kind of communication that happen between the former president, and any witnesses that appear before the january six committee throughout their investigation. let me read from you, from rolling stone, an incredible piece on whether the former president will in fact testify. and the title in of itself is incredible. saying absolutely effing not. trump's team scramble to talk him out of the january six testimony. this is what they say, almost immediately after the house january six committee announcing that subpoena donald trump, the ex president began telling people close to him, he loved to testify before the congressional panel. if he got to do it on live television, even the idea that sent trump's advisor scrambling to convince them it would be a
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disaster. i'm wondering, if you feel as though, land, it's because he has a very complicated relationship with the truth, and that the former president often lies? >> i'll try to put it a bit more delicately than the rolling stone headline. i don't believe there's any way donald trump will never be seated before a congressional committee, raises white hand, swear to tell the truth, and testify. if he's ever forced by a court, to be in that position, he's likely to invoke his fifth amendment right against self incrimination. i would not expect, this sounds to me, when i hear donald trump saying, i'd love to testify, and tell my side of the story he kept telling us for six years, he loved to release his tax returns so we can really all see if he was a billionaire, millionaire, are just -- and yeah, we still haven't seen him. we're getting closer because a court rulings. but you really can't take
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donald trump at his word. if i had to bet about, we're not going to see him testify under oath. >> land, if we could. i want you to touch on some information we're getting in from the washington post. pertaining to the mar-a-lago documents. it's the joining of top national security prosecutor, david raskin, to the team to the investigation. what is this signal to you about the doj? >> it signals the doj is moving in the direction of indicting donald trump. the reason i say that i had to make -- when i was a section chief at the department of justice, specifically -- i always looked to see, who has the most subject matter, expertise and who has the most trial experience. all tell you, if i were looking to appoint someone to the trial team, that would try donald trump for his stolen documents and mar-a-lago. i would probably choose david raskin. >> glenn kirschner, thank you,
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