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i'm like -- can you at least wait to at least express some compassion for the victims of this crime? can we -- can we talk about why -- why the teenagers have guns in the first place like this? you know, they are using this as a political tool and they are fearmongering and in my particular opponents case, he apparently allegedly -- i mean illegally collaborated with a -- with a pack that spent about $800,000 on these scams hateful ads. so i mean, you know they are leaning in on the fear of message. we've got to help people understand that there's been social disruption and trauma and it's time to, together, get a handle on it! >> keith ellison, thank you so much for your for your time. "alex wagner tonight" starts right now. good evening, chris. >> thank you for joining us at this hour. 13 years ago this week a right-wing anti-abortion group called operation rescue emails
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its members encouraging them to participate in a special halloween contest. it was known as the nancy pelosi and harry reid burn in hell competition. yes, really. operation rescue included a video showing step-by-step how you can make your very own nancy pelosi and harry reid effigy, they even showed you how to burn your effigy once you wrote it. it was from aspects of the affordable care act. the winner of the contest would receive an all-expense paid trip to d.c. just burn the effigy. is this was a fringe group in 2009 takinging dangerous political rhetoric about reid and pelosi to a dangerous new extreme. the worry is not that violent rhetoric and mainstream politics is going to cause level-headed mainstreamer to do something
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insane and awful. the worry is that violent rhetoric encourages the least stable amongst us to do. a democratic leader in the house, nancy pelosi, a month before the halloween contest in 2009. >> how concerned are you about the tone of the political debate in terms of people yelling anti-rhetoric and so on and possibility of violence? >> well, i think we all have to take responsibility for our actions and our words. we are a free country. and this balance between freedom and safety is one that we have to carefully balance. i have concerns about some of the language that is being used because i saw -- i saw this myself in the late '70s in san francisco. this kind of rhetoric it was very frightening and it created a climate in which we violence took place.
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and so i wish that we would all, again, prove our enthusiasm in some of the statements that are made to understanding that some of the people -- the ears that are falling on are not as balanced as the person making the statement. >> a few months after nancy pelosi made that statement where she publicly made clear her worry about the rise of dangerous rhetoric, the republican national committee decided to make pelosi as an individual their biggest target. on the night the house passed the affordable care act in 2010 the rnc website started redirecting visitors to a new fundraising page fire nancypelosi.com which showed pelosi with clenched fiflts in front of a wall of flames. they launched a fire pelosi bus tour where they zigzagged across the u.s. and used pelosi to
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raise cash the rnc at the time launched a tour while wearing a red fire pelosi hat. drumming up hate and demonizing pelosi as a person was a cash cow for republicans. by 2014, 13% of all republican house ads mentioned nancy pelosi. in 2016, when hillary clinton became the main public villain, pelosi was only 9% of house ads. by 2018 by clinton and obama no longer in the spotlight, nancy pelosi was in a whopping 34% of republican house ads. this year, republicans have spent more money on ads that demonize nancy pelosi it than they have spend about ads on immigration. the things that republicans have spent money on, taxes, joe biden, inflation, crime and nancy pelosi. at the same time, in the past two years, five people, five of them, have been arrested for how seriously they have threatened speaker pelosi. today, the man accused of
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breaking into speaker pelosi's home and assault pelosi was a hammer david depape was arranged in the san francisco county superior court. he entered a plea of not guilty. depape told responding officers he planned to hold nancy hostage and talk to her. he said if nancy were to tell the truth he would let her go, and if she lied, she would break her kneecaps and if he broke her kneecaps she would then have to be wheeled into congress which would show other members of congress there are consequences to actions. two days before paul pelosi was attacked, congressman tom emron chairman of the national committee tweeted out this video of him firing a gun at a gun range with a #fire pelosi. when questioned about it this weekend, he claimed democratic
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rhetoric was just as bad. he disavowed the violence but didn't see anything wrong with what he did. doug eye wrote this in "the washington post." i helped run the "fire pelosi" effort. our toxic politics goes too far. he talked how the success felt like a political gift. unlike the people currently in charge of the republican party, hye thinks this has gone too far. quote, collectively, we have to lower the temperature, people keep getting hurt. we're very lucky no one has been killed and i worry i mean yet. as a republican, i know the original sin begins with us, republicans not all to be sure, but enough. what we say is not what people hear and everyone in political life has a duty to do better. joining us is doug heye foamer
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director of the republican national committee. thanks for being here. >> thanks for having he. >> when i saw that bus tour, when you launched it 2010, did you imagine it would end here? >> no, absolutely not. this was something we did. we tried to grab ahold of a political moment. we did it in -- despite the imagery, we tried to be light hearted it about it. michael steele one of your colleagues at msnbc known as one of the movie affable people you'll know in your life. it was successful we took it to all 48 states. it went very well. this is a political gift for a committee that was really needed at the time. and we weren't thinking of political violence at that point. the problem with that was a january in 2011, a saturday morning when gabby giffords was
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shot. i drove to the office immediately, got on a conference call with colleagues in john boehner's office, and the congressional and senatorial committees, we talked about the proper ways to respond and what we would do to quell in mixed company, loud mouths and bomb throwers, we use other language in private so make sure we're unifying and saying the good and smart things. fast forward to what we've just seen, we've seen a lot of republicans, not all of them, but enough, are making it as a week time and things like that are absolutely beyond the pale. and this is my concern. it always gets worse and it's going to continue to get worse. so far, we've been lucky in that nothing truly awful has happened that none of them have died. it may be on a republican, it maybe a democrat, or spin all of us to the point of unraveling.
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>> i want to talk about the republican attrition on this but i do want to talk about the bus tour launch. it wasn't like political violence was a fantasy. we played that sound in 2009 saying she was worried about the anti-rhetoric party. the tea party was on the upswing. there was the obama flourishing. it's a play on the word fire, but it also conjures something darker. i'm sure it seemed like sharks furying of someone who is in the political main frame, if you will. but did you ever pause to think maybe we shouldn't do this? >> no, that wasn't a part of our conversation at all. and i'll tell you part of what i did as a committee, some days i was successful, some days i wasn't, there were reporters that you know and you've worked with that will tell you about this, is to push back on some of the ugly narratives we heard about barack obama. questioning his christianity,
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questioning his religion, not only did i think was politically out of balance, i thought was politically stupid, not what we wanted to be talking about in 2010 to take over the house. again, the fire pelosi vehicle quite literally, to take over the bus to do that, i wasn't aware of those comments of speaker pelosi then, i don't think. and the other thing i would say, republicans aren't critical of nancy pelosi because she think she's incompetent. we launched this because she very skillfully got the obamacare bill through the house through a very narrow margin. she's very good at her job, that's partly because of why she's got to and for republicans because of her effectiveness. >> i've got to ask you about david axelrod this weekend in terms what is so attractive to nancy pelosi as a focus to get people to the polls. axelrod said it's gender.
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it is class. the whole idea of a wealthy san francisco liberal woman. the whole package is there. it's become a more deadly game. do you think it's truth in that, beyond efficacy, and speaker of the house, to be liberal to be sure, but the fact that she's a woman, from a coastal city, do you think that matters in all of this? >> i think some of it does. in the previous hour there was a clip of lindsey graham talking about san francisco. it's been a time-honored tradition for republicans to use san francisco and new york city where you are, washington, of course, where i am, as shorthand for coastal elites and things like that so i think there is truth to that, dan is a really smart guy, even when i disagree with him, he's probably said really smart points. >> you said there was a conversation after the giffords shooting where you guys circled back up at the rnc and said maybe we should tone it down. what happened in that conversation? >> yeah, you know, it was a saturday morning.
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and we were all, like everybody else, shocked that this would happen. and the call, as i remember it, was one of really somber tones. and making sure that the statements that we put out whether it was from the republican national committee or john boehner's office he being now the new speaker of the house at that point that we set the right tone and say the right things. again, this is also the really important part that we make it clear too, that this is house leadership, more than the rnc, that we make it clear to our members, members of the house republican conference or what we called 168, the 168 members of the republican national committee to not shea anything inflammatory or stupid and we were able to do that in 2011 as we've seen 12 years later, this past weekend, it's a punch line for some republicans and consieve tfrs who also dabble on selling supplements on tv and my
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pillowization of the republican party, that's unfortunate. or if they said the wrong thing like glenn youngkin did and apologize and move on. >> the counterchair rona mccandle, saying let's fire pelosi, or let's take back the house it's just unfair. we need to realize that violence is up across the board. that does not sound like someone who learned from mistakes made a decade ago. that is intent on quelling anger. and violence that seems to be a mainstay of republican strategy at this point. what do you make of that as someone who worked at the rnc? >> as i said in the piece, i think we have original sin here and part of that is our language towards barack obama, michelle obama, for that matter as well. and the questioning of citizenship and religion and so forth. and then, obviously, with donald
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trump and what ultimately, you know, culminated in january 6. i think republicans should be more mindful of that. i think she's right that you can't necessarily draw a direct line between what one politician says and the act of a crazy person. when chuck schumer said that brett kavanaugh was going to reap the whirlwind and pay the price for his vote on the dobbs decision. i don't think he was sending the person there to brett kavanaugh's house with a gun to get arrested. it's not a straight line. it may be a dotted line. it may be a broken line. it's one of the reasons why i wanted to be introspective in what my work might have been. because i'm scared of what happened. and steve scalise, it's not just something that happened at a baseball game, it's very personal for me, because he's a friend and the two members of the security detail worked with eric cantor when i worked in his office. they were wonderful people, we're lucky they were there at
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the right time. next time, republican or democrat, they might not be. the kidnapping plot on gretchen whitmer could have been successful. these are things that should scare every american, cause everybody in american public life to try to do better for themselves and ultimately the country. >> and the idea that violence is a strategy condoned and supported and by especially one party in this country should be unacceptable to all of us, doug heye, former communications director for the republican national committee, thank you for your time tonight. >> thank you. we have much more ahead, we'll talk to one of the most ambitious democrats in the country as far as keeping control of the senate. congressman and candidate tim ryan joins us live. and up next, republicans have made it the centerpiece of their closing argument but the only people who actually have a plan for it are democrats. stay tuned, to see exactly what it is. s. your projects done right
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inflation is skyrocketing. energy costs are up and grocery shelves are empty. >> the worst inflation in 40 years. home heating, groceries, gasoline, all through the roof. >> an exploding cost of living. our lives are dangerous and unaffordable. >> with just a week left to go until election day, republicans have found their closing message, inflation, inflation, inflation. there is just one problem with that message. republicans don't really have a plan to deal with inflation,
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inflation, inflation. when asked by reporters about their plans for tackling that very problem, republicans have responded with a mix of reflection and confusion. this is what mehmet oz told the philadelphia inquirer. cut taxes for working families. boom! there you got it. the big problem there, cutting taxes could very well make inflation worse by driving up consumer spending and pushing prices higher but that is the almost the entirety of the entire republican agenda. cutting taxes. they're willing to push it whether or not it might even make the problem worse. democrats a group of people who are apparently on defense here, they actually seem to have a plan for combatting inflation some of which is put in place. they passed the inflation reduction act, with the strategic oil reserve to lower gas prices.
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and now they're going after corporate greed. last week, the two biggest oil companies in the country reported over 30 billion, with a "b," $30 billion of combined profits even as consumers are facing higher prices at the pump. in other words, big oil companies are using the speshgt of inflation and higher costs because of the war in ukraine to boost their own share price. this is not something that republicans have been talking about. last night, president biden explicitly threatened the companies with a windfall tax on corporate prices unless they stop reducing prices. >> oil companies, record profits today are not because they're doing something new or innovative. their profits are windfall of war. a windfall from the brutal conflict that's ravaging ukraine and hurting tens of millions of people around the globe. i think they have the responsibility to act in the interest of consumers, their community and their country. to invest in america by
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increasing production and refining capacity. if they don't, they're going to pay a higher tax on their excess profits and face other restrictions. >> so, there seems to be a democratic plan here as it concerns inflation, inflation, inflation, and yet, republicans are still landing their attacks against democrats on the economy. there are polls tightening every day. and voters saying economy is the top concern. so what should democrats do? what can democrats do? there's one week left here. well here's democratic congressman mike leavitt who is facing a tough re-election campaign in a tough california swing district. >> republicans are talking a lot about inflation. and yes, it is a big problem that i've been working hard to address. but what are the republican plans. a bunch of bull. that's right. the republican plan is massive tax cuts for billionaires and giant corporations. pretty much their plan for everything. it won't bring down inflation but it will make their donors
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even richer, what a surprise. i'm mike levin and i approve this message because we need real action to bring down inflation, not a bunch of bull. >> a bunch of bull, should that be democrats' closing message. we have the perfect person, former campaign something to bernie sanders and the founder of "a more perfect 89." foz, it's good to see you. >> good to see you. >> it seems that democrats don't want to say inflation because president biden and democrats control congress. but that should be the closing message that the republican plan is no plan? >> right, certainly, the supply chains during the pandemic caused all over the place and the war in ukraine caused an increase in prices. one of the main things that democrats don't talk about is corporate greed. if you look at corporate greed,
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large corporate monopolies control large market spaces they have incredible use. pepsico and coal ka cola are reporting record profits, not just profits, record profits. so, for a democrat who believes in the power of government, to care for working people, you have to be willing to be a bulwark against corporate forces and corporate excesses who are trying to screw you. and you need to emote that, you need to have policies and plans. i'm glad that joe biden has said, windfall profit tax, but it shouldn't just stop there. there are a lot of ways to control for corporate wrongdoing, that's what the fight is about. >> and it's easy to understand if you're someone who has gone to the grocery store and has to do the back of the envelope calculation to see whether you can afford all of your groceries to understand that pepsico that makes a lot of food in the grocery stores is recording historic profits, right? >> yes. tie this with labor for a second.
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most republicans will blame workers, oh, they had to pay an extra $2 an hour to chipotle worker, while chipotle is making record profits. you can tell a story that most of the profits are going to into the shareholders and large investors in chipotle, they're making out like bandits and blaming the workers. the laborers are telling you the story, look, i'm getting screwed. i'm barely making ends meet due to inflation. you have to get behind them like a freight train and say we fight for them. the underdogs are being preyed upon in this marketplace because corporate actors have too much money over laborers and consumes that are jacked on prices, you see the hit potle bowl shrinking over time so they can make more money. that's what's going on. >> i don't understand how this is is not sort of a foundational part of the democratic message this year because it was such a
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plan in 2020. there was such an acute awareness of the pain that people were feeling of the economic issues facing the structure. at large. the structural inequalities, most of the candidates ran on that and yet you don't see that same messages. >> alex, we worked on this build back better for a long time and there may be some build back better fatigue. when we passed on the inflation reduction act, what was left on the chopping block, child care, true tuition at community colleges. you think about the things that reduce inflation or help people really dealing with inflation it would be those elements and if i come to you and say, alex, i have a plan to deal with child care. i'm getting you a child care tax credit that are dealing with the costs you're experienced in your life, wouldn't you be excited about it? what i feel the struggles are when democrats were campaigning about this we obviously became two votes short in the senate, we stopped talking about it.
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you can be honest with voters and saying we came up two voters short to chose things. that's why i need mandela barnes in the senate, and we're going to keep fighting for child care and tuition in colleges and universities, that's why we need a chance to do this. >> and they haven't done this? >> you can't talk about your -- there's a lot of people saying talk about the great things that you did. alex if you and i are struggling paycheck to paycheck, what does paycheck to paycheck mean? 50%, 60%, 80% of people struggling, if you're making 13, $14 an hour, $800 every two weeks. you have zero in your checking, zero in your savings. let's talk about policy for a second. feel that emotion. imagine the anxiety, the suffering, the concern that you have, the shame that you have, am i doing enough for my name? start with that and say do you
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really want to hear about accomplishments right now? do you want to go back to that person and say, don't worry we did all of these amazing things. no, you want to say, i've seen your pain and suffering. and these bastards on the right, they don't care anything for you. they don't care. >> that's the other piece of this, republicans have been sure about what they're going to do and it's not going to help the problem. >> right. >> and the republicans are better quote-unquote, for the economy than democrats but it's a nuanced message that said we haven't done everything but we'll do more. but to say tax cuts for the wealthiest aren't going to help you. i wonder whether there need to be more offense? >> everything you're saying is absolutely correct. president obama did it fell, senator sanders did it well, saying they want to cut social security and medicare. >> exactly. >> here's the clear contrast. i understand the abortion messaging and for so many
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democratic candidates it's easier to talk about abortion. you and i could write a 30-second ad or email how and why we care about this. i see a lot of people struggling with the economic contrast. many democrats have not been able to make a forceful economical contrast. and voters are telling us that's the thing on their minds. in addition to abortion being the economic issue, you can talk about what you want to do to adjust people's food costs, increase grocery bills, increased fuel costs, you want to take it to corporate wrong doers who are trying to prey upon you. these guys on the right, they're in their pockets, the people funding their campaign ad, they aren't going to do anything about it. we stand with workers, we stand with consumers who are getting the shaft. if you don't have government willing to stand up to corporate actors you're going to get preyed upon. it's the willingness to take on
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the republican party. >> if you say they can do it -- are you listening? thank you for coming on. in just a few minutes we're going to talk to one of the democrats who hopes that economic message will take him to the senate. ohio congressman tim ryan joins us live. and up next, disturbing news from elon musk as he orders them to shootaround down tools of hate speech right before the election. that's next. ght before the election that's next.
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♪♪ after nearly two days of silence, brazil president jair bolsonaro today finally addressed his historic loss to the leftist president luis inacio lula. bolsonaro would accept defeat. he did not do pa. bolsonaro did not announce the winner or the election results. it wasn't until the bolsonaro addressed the election resulting that's when his chief of staff stepped up and said the bolsonaro would start the transition process. this was a concession but it did
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provide a retrieve because what's been happen nlg brazil has been chaotic. truckers and demonstrators blocked roads through sunday all in support of bolsonaro. some of the truckers protest having called for a military coup to prevent lula from taking office. he welcomed peaceful demonstrations. the door is wide open for more of the truck blockades but at leaves the bolsonaro administration appears to have begun the transition process. there was real concern that this would happen that no member of the administration would utter the word transition. that's because of "the new york times" document and bolsonaro has been saying that for months. he's been telling the world if he lost it would only be because the election was stolen. he's literally casting doubt on the legitimacy of brazil's elections for years.
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>> if i don't win, there must have been fraud. remind you of anyone? those are exactly the sorts of things that donald trump said in the runup and aftermath of the 2020 presidential election. trump made similar statements on twitter planning his millions of followers to believe in a lie of election fraud and encouraging them to gather at the capitol on january 6. trump said statistically impossible to have lost the 2020 election. big protest in d.c. on january 6th, be there, will be wild. a former person on the team responsible for content in 2020, told the committee after trump
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tweeted that, it felt like a mob was being organized. on twitter, the lies took off like wildfire. a mob was uttering trump's claims of voter fraud and preparing to assemble at the capitol on january 6th. armed and ready to attack. the twitter employee who testified at the house panel said twitter considered adopting stricter moderation policies because of trump's rhetoric but that never came to pass. instead, trump continued to fan the flames on twitter calling people to gather on the 6th. we all know what ultimately happened that day. january 6th is what can happen when a president lies to his followers about election loss. and uses twitter to rally his supporters. and avoids playing by any rules that might preference the spread of lies. we know that pattern. that is how the last election went. and that is why it was so unnerving when we learned that twitter has limited employee access to content moderation tools since elon musk completed
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his acquisition of the company. according to bloomberg taking action that have broken policies on hate speech or misinformation, requires twitter employees to access a dashboard of tools. those tools have been suspended since last week, raising concerns among twitter employees who worry they won't be able to adequately enforce election policies here in the use. by the way, these are the same poliies that says trump routinely. and in brazil that team had content of the moderation tools returned to them on sunday which was the day of the brazilian election. the question remains whether the same will be true here in the united states on election day. and also whether returning those tools at that point will be too little too late, more than 300 election deniers are on the ballot in one week. buckle up.
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we all -- we all watched -- we all watched the video. we all watched the video. and i -- >> hold, hold. let him finish, please. >> i'm having to have this conversation. i'm not afraid to have this conversation. these are the conversations we need to have in this country. i welcome you guys but i'm not afraid to stand here and defend my position. >> i'm not afraid to have this position. this was tim ryan making his case at an audience at a fox news town hall, say what you will to the audience reaction to the question he was trying to answer about the maga movement. but here is a person trying to speak the truth about what happened on january 6 to a roomful of people who have been lied to for quite some time. it was not a very comfortable conversation, but tim ryan was trying to have it anyway. and then there was his
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republican opponent jamie vance who was given the chance to defend the attack against paul pelosi, nancy pelosi's husband and jamie vance said this. >> let's condemn is against the beginning. i think it's disgusting and something that we all should condemn. what i've always said the way to try to turn this into a political issue here is an issue here. paul pelosi was attacked by a person who was an illegal alien who should never have been here in the country. my view we need to deport illegal aliens. >> the attack was a real problem because of illegal immigrants. jamie vance about the way fomented and spread information about the democratic party --
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quite the opposite. both vance and ryan are locked in a tight place. vance leading ryan by two percentage points and tim ryan hoping he can close that gap by not only turning out faithful democratic voters but also asking trump supporters who give him a shot which is why he's doing fox town halls. and today he got the support of someone who is not, congressman liz cheney, endorsement is good thing but is this helpful, let's ask tim ryan. congressman tim ryan from ohio. congressman, thank you for joining me on this busy day that you've had. can we please begin with liz cheney's endorsement of you? what's your thought? >> well, there are certain issues, alex, who are american issues that are the foundation of the country, do you believe in democracy. do you believe in the rule of
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law? do you believe that elections are free and fair? and if you agree on those things then welcome to the united states, you're an american. and liz cheney and i agree on that, then you can break into, you know, your parties or your views. or your philosophies on how to govern from that point, but you have to agree on the integrity of elections. you have to agree on, you know, these foundational democratic issues. and if you do, you're an american. and i think that's what liz was saying today that we have an obligation to be americans first. and agree on these foundational issues. and then we can have our political fights within the context of that so there are a lot of republicans here in ohio that are tired of the extremism, j.d. vance has denied the election. he's running around with donald trump jr., not donald trump sr.
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but donald trump jr. making fun of the paul pelosi memo. no, they missed the memo that everyone is tired of that. liz cheney is quite welcome. if she's ever back in congress and i'm back in congress, we can argue about different things but we'll argue about it from that foundational viewpoint. >> i'm curious what you're trying to pull off which is a very tight tight rope. on one hand, you are trying to get the support of donald trump fans who watch fox news. on the other hand you're trying to turn out the democratic faithful and truth of what happened on january 6. we have been led to agree that those two groups of people do not overlap. the people who believe what happened on january 6 which was a violent insurrection of the capitol, and the people who support donald trump, those are never the same groups of people. have you found otherwise? >> i think there's some overlap there. i don't know, i'm not smart to
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do the whole analysis of this, honestly, all i know what i feel on the ground. and what i feel on the ground, there are people who are absolutely ungettable. they are in that small group of people. and maybe it's -- maybe it's 30% or 35% of the electorate. but they're ungettable. and then there's a group that's like they voted for trump because the system's broken for them. whether it's the economic system. the retirement system. the health care system. the education system. they have a level of frustration. and they photo like this independent guy from the outside who is rich and famous, maybe he was the guy after 40 years, maybe he was the guy that could fix it. so those voters are open to a guy like me who said, look, i agreed with trump on some of the china stuff, not the rhetoric, but the policy we've got to be firm and outcompete china. he renegotiated nafta. he wants a strong defense.
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like maybe we could vote for a guy like tim ryan because he's for us, he's for our retirement. he's for our wages, he's for our health care. similar to sherrod brown. those people are gettable. i'm not going to go on fox news because i'm afraid of the people who support the insurrection on january 6. i went on fox news because you got to go in the lion's den to even be able to access those other people. and we are, and that's why we're going to win this race because there are those other people who will vote for me. they feel like they're a person without a home. and we want to give them a soft landing because we are all americans. we don't have to agree on everything. we're just asking people to help us pull this thing off to go to tim for oh.com. we need the rank and file people to make this happen. >> we had a conversation earlier in the show about the economic frustration and the fact that
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democrats actually have much more of an outlined plan and action plan some of which has been enacted to help people, to help the working class. my question to you is, how do you happen into that sense of anger and frustration and loss that is a hallmark of this group of people, working class americans, not just white working class americans, but working class americans who feel left behind, who feel like people don't care, how do you tap into the emotional center of that without becoming an angry candidate yourself? because that seems to be what has happened here with the republican party and even dch donald trump. and the rage machine which eclipses the problem at hand that has left people people who are lost and broken. >> this is why i love you. you absolutely hit the nail on the head. you get this stuff. you meet them where they are, you can't say how do you feel about inflation, you say the
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fundamentals of the economy are good. that's not the right answer. the right answer is i know you're hurting. i know $4 a gallon for gas or $3.85, whatever it is wherever you're living is really hard. whether you're a home health care woman who happens to be a black woman in cleveland or a construction worker who happens to be a white dude from off the ohio river that has to travel a couple hours each day, in each instance, the gas prices are crushing them. and in each instance, your food costs are high. you're talking to everybody. you got to meet them where they are. i understand how difficult this is. i understand the pain. i've been saying that's why we need a tax cut. the child tax credit we advanced last year. earned income tax credit that put money in your pocket. meet them where they are, understand your pain and provide a solution. people are smart. they don't expect to you have a magic wand. they just want you to understand and have a plan moving forward.
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we have a good mid to long-term plan, c.h.i.p.s. act, infrastructure, inflation reduction act. we're bringing back manufacturing. we have an industrial policy in this country for the first time in four years but what we're not getting right is we feel your pain. we understand, you need a tax cut. you need some more money in your pocket to weather the storm. if we do that, i'm doing that we'll see how it works out. but you got to understand where people are coming from, white, black, brown, gay, straight, man, woman, manufacturing sector, service sector, we're all in the same boat. we got to help out. >> democratic congressman from ohio, congressman tim ryan. it's a two-point race. >> thanks, alex, we want people to help us out, chip in a few bucks, tim for oh.com. we need you. >> we'll be right back. you. >> we'll be right back
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breaking news out of arizona it was a little over a week ago when he's images of masked potentially armed individuals at ball boxes. the individuals were reportedly taking photos of voters' license plates as they were voting. the arizona league of women voters sued to stop that group from intimidating voters. the doj stepped in and filed a brief in support of their argument just within the last several minutes, a federal judge has ruled in favor of the league of women voters. an organization tweeted, breaking news, federal judge rules in voters' favor. that's a win for democracy. that does it for us. "way too early with jonathan lemire" is coming up next. seven days, seven days until the most important election in our lifetime. you heard me say it before. we're

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