one of the things that the biden administration has done that is so important is really pushing to make our economy more competitive. that means giving small businesses a quick chance to compete, and to grow. you really cannot have strong capitalism without robust competition what they want to do is squash the little guy said that they have unfettered, unchecked market power to gouge consumers. republicans have made clear that that is who the will stand with if they're elected. democrats on the other hand are going to fight like hell to protect consumers and workers, and that's exactly what i have been doing, and intend to continue to do. >> a percent inflation rate, not unemployment, congresswoman katie porter. thank you so much for your time. >> thank you. >> that is all in on this wednesday night, alex wagner tonight starts right now. good evening, alex. wagner >> good evening, chris. the part of all of this myth has to do with covid greatest so under discussed, it's so

good that you guys are focusing on it as well. the biden administration is trying to take corporations to task on this, but it is not a strong enough piece of the broader message about what is happening to the american people here. >> i totally agree. like i said to the congresswoman, i was a skeptic as to whether it was true about what was driving the dynamics, but overtime it has become clear it is. i'm going to run. >> where you will be my first guest. democrats have stuck in the elevator. see you soon. thank you to you at home for joining, us in just a few minutes we will be joined by chris hayes, and also wisconsin democratic senate candidate mandela barnes. election night is less than a week away, and he is in a very tight race against ron johnson. the outcome of that race could determine control of the u.s. senate which on its own makes the states extremely high in the state of wisconsin. even more than that, even more than that is on the line right now. if wisconsin's democratic

governor tony evers loses the reelection bid, but republican governor interim public and legislature will have the power to do basically whatever they want. that may include rewriting wisconsin's election laws to give republican officials the power to decide who prevails in future elections. in 2020, wisconsin was one of the states where donald trump tried to get donald trump's -- state officials resisted trump's pressure and certified biden's win. if the current republican candidate for wisconsin governor tim michaels, who is a election denier, who has refused to say if he was governor whether he would certify a biden win in 2024. this week, he got even more explicit about what it would mean if he winds. >> republicans will never lose another election in wisconsin after i am elected governor. >> republicans will never lose another election is wisconsin after i am elected governor. i mean, points for being

candid. usually they don't say that part out loud. tim michaels is not alone in this. plenty of republican candidates across the country refused to commit to accepting the results of their own races. >> my question is, will you accept the results of your election in november? >> i'm going to win the election, and i will accept that result. >> if you lose really except that? >> i'm going to win that election, and i'm going to accept that result. >> that is the gop candidate for governor of arizona, carry. like the governor running for secretary of state, which is the office that oversees elections has also said that he will not accept a loss. he said that there would be no sick sick concessions speech for him. okay, well -- a dozen of them declined to say whether that they would accept the results of the contests. that makes sense, because when they look at races for house, senate, and chief state offices

across the country, the post discovered that over half of the republicans running for those offices are still refusing to accept the results of the 2020 election. nearly 300 candidates in all. it is in that context that tonight, president biden stepped up to the podium at washington's union station, which is not far from the u.s. capitol. he issued a stark warning about what is at stake in next week's elections. >> i hope you will ask a simple question of each candidate you might vote for. will that person except the legitimate will of the american people? the people voting in his or her district. will that person except the outcome of the election, win or lose? the answer to that question is vital you. in my opinion, it should be decisive. the answer to that question hangs the future of the country that we love so much, and the fate of the democracy. it has made so much possible for us. >> president biden tonight,

telling american voters that the fate of democracy hangs on how they vote in these midterm elections. just trying to prepare americans for what could happen in a few days time. the country could be at a very different place. after beginning his speech talking about the attack on nancy pelosi's husband by an assailant who broke into their home, hunting down the speaker of the house, biden warned that the anti democratic behavior and violent rhetoric engulfing the republican party, that it is all a path to chaos. >> this is also the first election since the events of january 6th, when the armed angry mob stormed the u.s. capitol. i wish that i could say that the assault on the democracy and in that day, but i cannot. as i stand here today, there are candidates running for every level of office in america. for governor, congress, attorney general, secretary of state, who will not commit to accepting the results of the

elections that they are running in. this is a path to chaos in america. it's unprecedented. it's unlawful, in just an american. i've said before, you cannot love your country only when you win. >> you can't love your country only when you win. so says the president of the united states. what does the last president of the united states say? quote, our country is rigged, crooked, and evil. that is from this past weekend. i think that it is safe to say that this is the first time that a former u.s. president has called america evil. that is where we are. the anti-democratic forces that president biden is trying to rally americans against tonight are not coming from somewhere outside. they are very much here already. the task is inside of the republican party, and they are on the ballot right now. joining me now is the host of

all in, and my dear friend chris hayes. thank you who staying at the office late for us. >> it's great to be here. >> i wanted to talk to you about this, given your body of work on the subject matter. and also this is just absolutely strange and perilous. we all find ourselves in this moment as americans, members of the news media, who are following this death very closely. we have all watched president biden's remarks tonight. the first thing that i wanted to ask you about is whether you think that there is actually a distinction to be made as the president insists there is, between republicans and maga republicans. >> i do, because i think that if you look at the dividing line of, do i have faith in an individual that they will concede an election that they lost but in a timely manner? there is a distinction. mike the one in ohio is pulling up 15 points, he's probably going to win. but i think if that governor lost the election, he would concede. his last elections, i covered

one in 2006 in the senate, he lost. and so i think there is a difference between the kinds of individuals in the republican party, and i still think there are many, who would concede that they lost and move on. and then, do i think that mark finchem, who is we are running for secretary of state in arizona and polling behind. if mark finchem loses the arizona secretary of state race, he's going to say, you got me! probably not. i think that distinction actually has a meeting. >> i guess i should say that there is a distinction between not only maga republicans and regular truth accepting republicans. but also, who are we talking about? they are the elected officials, and then there are the grassroots. at this point, i truly feel like the grassroots are actually leading the party. in the numbers, if you look at who is in the republican party, 61% of them believe that the election was stolen for joe biden. the president of the united

states, joe biden, who won, i think he wants to believe that that number is smaller. he believes in the goodness of this country, and two thirds of the republican party as it is the people of the republican party, and does not believe he is legitimate. >> the math you're running there is correct, it is incorrect in the republican speech, it's the majority dominant faction of the republican party. although not entirely, there is a minority that is in that faction. it's the majority faction that runs one of two parties. it's a minority in the broad american populists, which still to this day retains a robust probe democracy majority. something along the lines of 60% probably. but there is a dominance of this anti-democratic faction in the republican party, and that is really the entire issue. you have a two party system, it competitive democracy, you have a multi party democracy. you can't have a multi party democracy if one party keeps winning elections. they have that in some

countries, mexico for decades. they have hired in south africa for decades. that is not really competitive multi party democracy. and so by definition, the parties are going to take turns with power. if one party cannot be trusted with that party, that's where the breakdown happens, that's exactly what we face. >> i think of these, and i'm obviously projecting, i don't have a crystal ball. i'm thinking as we watch these moments unfold like the one we did tonight, 2020, 2022, and 2024 has had this stress test of the american democracy. 2020 is the test of an external threat, does the center hold? did the institutions hold up? in large part, they do. 2022 is the voters. can they distinguish between those that are lying to them, can't do they want to distinguish, who did they elect? 2024 is, if we do elect all these election deniers into office, what happens to the system when it is corroded from the inside as opposed to the threat coming from the outside? >> this is a great point. there's two things to think

about. one is just election night and week after 2022, which is, what happens of the mark finchem's in the world? it's to a level, i suspect and help, and if they lose they will lose, and they will be gone. i retain hope. but also trump has opened the window for all sorts of mischief. the other thing is that, forget kari lake and mark finchem, and forget marchand in nevada. just a republican house, the president was set in 2020 for the first time, that is a matter of the u.s. constitution, that after the whole country runs the election, where we spend half of a billion, one billion dollars on the election. then the house meets to decide, do we like that result? let's vote on it. no, we just ran the whole election. that was the presidents step for 2020. if the democrats win, and a majority of the house will be like, i don't know, what do you

think? should we keep this? so that is before we even get to all of the crazy mischief that could have an instate certification, all the things that could happen to electors. just the fact that it has been introduced as a precedent for 2020, that the house has gone to have this vote that is no longer emit a ministerial stamp that says yes, these are the results. it is a, i don't know, what do you think? that itself is gross. >> even if you don't get the sea, you could be pulling the curtains down from the windows as your escorted out of the building. and what kind of house does that leave you and? before i let you go, because you have earned your keep this evening, you get to go out there. it really feels like not an overstatement to say that we are living through history, and we could be witnessing the end of liberal democracy. i say that almost like it is hard for me to -- but those are the stakes. biden is not overstating this.

this is not political rhetoric, this is a man that understands his place in history. when books are written, they will mark down, he gave this speech six days before the 2022 election, because there is going to be some outcome in the next month or a year that is significant in terms of a liberal democracy. >> i completely agree, and when we talk about this tomorrow logical dispute about fascism, and other foreign models, we had competitive multi party democracy in the american south for about eight years after the civil war that was replaced by one party authoritarian, single party rule. it has happened before. i guess my only feeling is i don't want to foreclose what happens on the other side of any given election, because society still exists, mobilization still exists, we still have these platforms. it's not like there is some definitive -- i think the president did a good job of this year, democracy is a process, not a

destination. it's a journey, not a destination. it's something that you're working on. whatever outcome happens, whatever assaults there are, you try to vouch it, and defend against it as an active effort day in and day out. for whatever means you have your disposal. that is going to be the case two weeks from now, no matter what. >> we will do our part to keep democracy going. my friend, it's always good to see and talk with you, and hear your wise words about what's happening. thank you for your time. thank, you chris, and joining me now is claire mccaskill, former u.s. senator for missouri and then and as in d.c. analyst. i'm so happy to have you here tonight, to understand what happens in the next six days, and how you see democrats managing the message going into a very consequential midterm election. the first thing that i have to ask you is, what did you make of the presidents remarks tonight, and were you surprised that he chose this moment to

talk about the threats to democracy that we face? >> first, it's great to be with you, alex, i'm excited to be on your show for the first time. i look forward to visiting with you many times in the future. >> yes, please! >> i think that joe biden gave a speech tonight than he wanted to give. i'm not sure that he spent a lot of time analyzing the timing or the theatrical, or the visual. i think that he wanted to say something. i think he wanted to grab america by the shirt, shake america, and say please pay attention in this moment. as you guys were just talking about, democracy is a journey. it's not a destination. what biden was trying to do tonight was reach some americans that are not part of that chunk of the republican party that thinks that they only believe in elections when they win. but rather, the rest of the country, and say that we are

dangerously close to losing something that defines our country that we have been very proud of, and pretty good at for most of our history. it is in trouble, and i really want you to pay attention. it was not a wildly political speech, it was really a speech about american democracy. i think it showed and he is afraid of what is happening, and this big illness, the bump in the road of democracy. it's like they have torn up the road. now you have to figure had to get to the other side. this election may be a bridge that restores our journey on democracy, or it could tear the road up even further. >> i got the sense, i mean the president has spoke to these teams before. he spoke to them last month. he is clearly worried about some of the election deniers who are on the ballot. that is looming in the

foreground. i also got the sense that the attack on paul pelosi deeply shook him. not just because he has no nancy pelosi for a very long time. not just because the husband of the speaker of the house. but it is so much of a peace with so much that he sees throughout the country, the poison spreading through its veins. did you get that sense? did you think that the pelosi attack as the books are written will be seen as an inflection point in the rise and expansion of violent political rhetoric that becomes plain violence in the real world? >> i think that joe biden was deeply troubled by what happened. he is probably just as troubled by what happened after the attack. the notion that you would have the same chunk of people in our country calling the police liars. the police said that they

support to support. the blue line, we are the ones they care about law and order and support our police. they basically called the police buyers who responded to a 9-1-1 call and intervened in a violent situation, risking their own lives. they arrested a suspect, and then after giving him his rights secured a videotape confession. they are basically saying, i don't know, we don't believe you, you're a big liar. i think that it is the reaction of people and the failure of republican leaders that joe biden does very well. i think he is most disappointed that there was not more of a coming together at this moment of republicans and democrats in congress to say no more, no more political violence. i think that he is disgusted at how many republicans are either saying very little, saying horrible things, or just standing silent. i really think that that's what it's about. >> i just wonder how hard it is to know who the intended

audience was for. i think you saying it for history, for himself, for the american public. i wonder if he was trying to speak to a specific slice of american electorate. we talk about the division in this country, we are talking to tim ryan last night, and he still retains a certain amount of optimism, about whether you can have a fox news town hall and still appeal to duplicate voters. in 2018, you talked to the fox news audience, and felt like that is a necessary part of campaigning. do you still think that it's possible to be a democrat in this age. talk to fans of donald trump, or believe that something nefarious went on in the election, and get their votes. >> it sure is hell better be. if you look at this, alex, let's look at the country. we have 25 to 30% of americans that are totally in the tank with donald trump and his lies, and the big lie, the fraud, and elections don't count unless we win. but then you have the rest of

the country. if we stay on opposite ends of the room, if our party doesn't try to move it capture the concerns of those people who do not see themselves as a rabid democrat, or a progressive democrat. they see themselves as middle of the rotors. i know these people. i have represented a whole bunch of them. when you have swing districts, and you have swing states, if we don't have candidates who can speak to that middle, who can capture those people and bring them, and make a healthy majority where we can compromise and actually solve problems. then we are either going to break apart, or will end up with a third party before it is all said and done. >> i would prefer one of those outcomes over the other, i have to admit. >> i would too. don't get me wrong! i want the democrats to understand something. everything you're hearing about the republicans winning the polls, and republicans are

going to win, and we are losing in the polls, do not believe in. i have been on both sides of this, a week before big elections where the polls are going to win, and i lost, and the polls said i was going to lose and i won. please, everybody vote. do you not believe for a minute that we are not in this, and that every single vote does not matter. it does, the courts held them up last time. they're going to hold him up again. >> everybody listen declare mccaskill, former u.s. senator from missouri, msnbc analyst, friend of the show, thank you for your time into him as always. >> thank you, alex. >> we have much more ahead this hour including breaking news in the mar-a-lago investigation. the trump ally has been ordered to testify to a federal grand jury about trump's mishandling of classified documents in exchange for immunity. what that means for donald trump just ahead. and we are officially one week away from the midterm elections. we all know that by now, but i'm going to keep saying it. in the wisconsin senate race, republican incumbent ron

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released today, one that endorsed -- mandela barnes. the paper did not pull any punches. this incompetent center has compiled an appallingly slim list of accomplishments for 12 years in office. as far as things johnson has done an office, the pace burnouts, he's played fast and loose with the facts for years. he's an anti-science superspreader of conspiracies who's claimed some spots -- global warming, and one of the vaccines that saved millions of lives could make the covid-19 pandemic worse. it took johnson more than a month to acknowledge the obvious -- that joe biden had defeated donald trump for the presidency. even, then the senator held a sham hearing the next day that allowed trump's lawyers to err arguments that had been shot down in courtrooms across the country. the paper goes on to accuse johnson of lying about his involvement in the fake electors scheme, trying to politicize the social safety

net, and the papers as johnson has been running racist ads. now, just to remind you, this is coming from the usa today network's editorial board. the usa today network does not normally weigh in on candidates, but they said they made an exception this time because the stakes here are that high. and they have more than a few concerns about senator ron johnson. clearly. in contrast, here's what the paper said about his opponent, mandela barnes. mandela barnes is young at 35, but he's served two terms as a state representative and one's lieutenant governor. his positions on major issues across the country are measured and mainstream. they go on to say he's a quick study will lean progressive but remain pragmatic. most importantly, he will focus on helping working class constituents, rather than delivering tax cuts to billionaire donors, as johnson has done. just a few weeks ago, ron johnson had a six point lead over mandela byram's and -- that lead is now a two-point lead, which is within the

margin of error. joining us now is wisconsin lieutenant governor and democratic senate candidate, mandela barnes. lieutenant governor barnes, thanks for being here tonight on your campaign bus. how are you feeling about your chances in six days? >> thanks so much for having me. we're feeling incredibly energized by momentum. but the folks who are showing up at rallies all across wisconsin -- as you mentioned, we are on our v8 for, getting all across -- it's wind from wisconsin. that's exactly what we intend to do. not just when it campaign, not won an election, but win for the working people who feel left behind by ron johnson. there are all kinds of concerns and frustrations people found over the last 12 years. an absolute lack of representation. on johnson has been in it for himself and his wealthy donors at the expense of the rest of us. he's been all too comfortable sitting -- and overseas. he's a person who's position on abortion is too extreme and out of touch with the 70% of people

this -- roe v. wade should be the law of the land, and is flirting with the -- people in the state of wisconsin are refusing to stand for. we are -- every day, showing up, meeting people where they are. that's what this is about. if folks are dropping us and watching, please join mandela barnes.com to get the job done. >> you say ron johnson has been flirting with the toppling of democracy. he was asked by the washington post whether he would accept the results of the elections in november and said, we'll see what happens. are you preparing -- and is there a strategy prepared for a few win and he refuses to concede? to what degree does the campaign have to game at something for that post election chaos. >> well, he's already demonstrated the lows that he'll take it to. he didn't like the result of the 2020 election. he used his power as a u.s. senator to overturn the election. he looked every single person in their, i every voter, said your voice doesn't count, your vote doesn't matter, -- people are tired of ron johnson

only being in it for himself. it's not our fault that democracy isn't working out for ron johnson. we're gonna still push to fight for it, protect it, make sure the right to vote is protected across the country, across the state. and we're gonna stand up to any sort of attacks that he tries to wage on the process. i'm more than happy to accept the results, and it's the same shame that senator johnson can't accept the same thing. >> wisconsin is one of those states that is always an era. joe biden won -- victories tend to be narrow because the state is deeply purple. it's a very sharp divide between the two parties. joe biden won the state by 21,000 votes. what seems to be happening in wisconsin is that republicans, when they can't win outright, fair and square, they tried to diminish or dilute democratic power in the state through gerrymandering and otherwise basically shrinking the power of democrats to represent the state. even if they have the votes, if you will. i believe democrats have to win the statewide vote by 12 points just to get 50 seats in the

assembly, according to the marquette university law school. republicans, on the other hand, could garner the majority of -- seats in the state assembly with just 45 votes. i think that strikes people as, on its face, undemocratic. but then there are plans that the republicans have basically outlined to take back a supermajority and diminish the role and the power of potentially democratically elected governor -- tony versus the governor, he's running for reelection, and it sounds like the republican legislature wants to do everything in its power to prevent him from actually being able to make law or exercise veto power. how worried are you about the state of wisconsin becoming effectively an anti-democratic state with a republican strategy to effectively undermine the voice of the people in the democratic process? >> i think you laid it out as plain as day. ron johnson is all too comfortable writing the rules to benefit himself, either financially, working to rewrite a tax code that he benefited

from firstly, as well as in the zone business -- he's a person who's own successful business, as he tells it, a multi million dollar business, has paid zero dollars to state income taxes since 2013. and when it comes to the election and the outcomes, this is a person who's gonna stick to whatever low he can. he's a real threat to democracy on the bat. we need people who are gonna respect the will of the people. will of the people should be the law of the land. but because of gerrymandering, that's not the case. and that's why we need to expand the majority so we implement the forms necessary -- that people can actually have their voice, so people can choose the representatives and not the other way around, which is the case right now in wisconsin. >> wisconsin democratic senate candidate, lieutenant governor mandela barnes. the race is getting tighter in favor of you. every vote will count. it's in six days, thanks for taking time out of your busy schedule on that campaign rv. we appreciate you. good luck out there. >> thank so much for having me.

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this is kash patel. before the trump era, he was a congressional aide to devin nunes. after playing loyal foot soldier in congressional -- cash patel worked his way into president trump's inner circle wasn't eventually appointed to a series of national security jobs that he had little to no qualifications for. after trump left office, cash patel state in the trump orbit and became trump's point person for dealing with the national archives, which is how cash patel found himself squarely in the middle of trump's biggest scandal since leaving office. the former president's decision to take thousands of white house documents with him, including hundreds of highly classified documents, and take them down to his florida beach club and then lie about it. it was cash patel who went out and told the right-wing news outlet breitbart in may that trump had done nothing wrong, because he'd already declassified of the documents at mar-a-lago. he told brett right, i was

there, with president trump, when he said we are declassifying this information. so far, the trump legal team has not actually made that claim in court. it is just a story that kash patel and donald trump like to tell from time to time. which is why, among other things, a lot of people would like to ask kash patel a lot of things under oath. and now, tonight, just before we got on the air, the wall street journal wrote the news but back a, posh patel, will not testify in the mar-a-lago case in exchange for immunity. catch patel, a close associate of former president donald trump, is set to soon testify before a federal grand jury -- classified documents at mar-a-lago after receiving immunity for his information. that, according to people familiar with the matter. mr. patel appeared before the grand jury last month that refused to provide information by repeatedly invoking his fifth amendment right against self incrimination. that was then, but this is now. the journal reports the immunity grant leaves the government only able to charge

patel, if it, all using information obtained independently of his immunized testimony. so if cash patel incriminate sums off and testifying about the mar-a-lago document scandal, he won't go to jail. if he does go to jail, it'll be for other things. the wall street journal also reports that other trump associates involved in the mar-a-lago documents matter also have been offered some form of immunity, including one of mr. trump's lawyers, who declined, saying she didn't need it. we don't know exactly what the justice department wants to ask cash patel, or why they went to such lengths to make him testify. but presumably, prosecutors want patel to admit under oath that trump never actually gave an order to declassify those documents. doing so would shut the door on one of trump's main public defenses. whether patel's situation leads to other witnesses being immunized for the testimony, while, that remains to be seen. but one thing is for sure here. a trump loyalist, i got with a lot of inside information, will

now testify under oath in this very legally perilous case. i could not be welcome news for the former president. more ahead. stay with us. stay with us

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minority, because of a racial quota. is that really fair? -- says that is. he supports ted kennedy's racial quota law that makes the color of your skin more important than your qualifications. your vote on this issue next tuesday. -- against racial quotas, jesse helms. >> that was the ad for the 1990 reelection campaign of senator jesse helms, republican of north carolina. a long time segregationist turned conservative firebrand. that and has become famous and modern american politics for its appeal to white men and racial animus. -- used dog whistle politics to play on racial resentment in fear, but if you have ever been as explicit and promoting the idea that white voters should see the world as a zero sum battle between white and non white people, that they should vote for candidates will advocate for white people over

nonwhite people. at least, that was until this week, when a group led by former trump advisor stephen miller started running this shocking new ad. >> when did racism against white people become okay? joe biden put white people last in line for covid relief funds. kamala harris said disaster aid should gone to nonwhite citizens first. liberal politicians block access to medicine based on skin color. progressive corporations, airlines, universities, openly discriminate against white americans. racism is always wrong. the lefts anti white bigotry must stop. we are all entitled to equal treatment under law. america first legal paid for the side. >> that's a real ad on the airwaves right now in georgia. it's not stephen miller's first racist ad, or his only one. earlier this month, another -- paid to air and add in a playoff game between the -- san diego padres. that at, which has since been removed from the group's social media channels, warned viewers

that the giant flood of illegal immigration is draining your paychecks, wrecking new schools, ruining your hospitals, threatening your family. and that mixed among the masses are drug dealers, sex traffickers, and violent predators. this kind of overt racist trolling as what we've come to expect from stephen miller, the architect of some of the trump administration's most heinous and bigoted policies. but the ad isn't just for stephen miller or just for former members of the trump white house. what is shocking here is just how much these ads fit with the republican parties closing arguments as we approach election day. since labor day, republicans have flooded the airwaves with ads about violent crime. many of them with racially coded messaging meant to scare white voters into supporting republicans. they released campaign materials with manipulated images that dark in the kiantone's of black and brown candidates. and now, the returning to the jussie holmes playbook, saying the quiet part out loud. telling white voters explicitly that they should feel aggrieved and afraid.

with just six days left for the election, where does this all and? joining us now is -- staff writer for the atlantic and author of the cruelty is the point: the past present and future of trump's america. thank you for being here tonight. i just -- watching that jesse holmes ad, i am so distraught by how much worse we are now than we were even than. some of these ads that stephen miller and other republicans are running right now would never have been used even in a jesse helms campaign strategy. and i guess i wonder, what do you think has happened to this country? there were some decades there where it felt like we were moving past this, or at least you couldn't have these explicitly racial ads on the air. now, or in a totally different place. how are we back in the 19 80s, back in the 1960s, maybe back inhe50s as far as race in this country? >> well, i actually don't think

we're back that far. i mean, jussie holmes is a segregationist. he wasn't against racial quotas. he believed overtly in racist oppression of people who are not white. and that is what you see in those ads. but the legal situation is obviously very different in the 1950s. as he pointed out, is there some classic race baiting ads of the that segregationists would've run decades ago. unfortunately, this is a pretty standard republican approach in recent years, which is to try to scare white people as much as possible so they'll vote gop, rather than thinking about republican plans to cut the social safety net, or preventing women from deciding whether they want to carry a pregnancy to term, they want white voters walking to the voting route thinking they're gonna be oppressed because they're white. and this is not really that different from 2018, or 2020, when these migrant caravans pop-up, and all of a sudden, there's an invasion, and people are gonna come in, and they're

all drug killers and terrorists, and we're gonna kill everyone. this is basically what republicans do -- have done every midterm for years now, and every election for years. and i think, basically, what happened is that barack obama got elected and -- with overt expressions of bigotry because of the fierceness of the conservative -- what trump did was really tear the stigma off of that. because he can get away with it, they all sort of want to live vicariously through by. so they all started imitating his brand of overtly racist politics. and so, now, this is just room temperature. >> i wonder, adam, that other part of this that feels -- i guess you could say, innovative on the part of republicans. is this new claim about anti-white bigotry. which is twofold.

one, it's kind of gaslighting. i'm not racist, your racist. but also, instead of assuming the role of the oppressed, it renders the cry of racism almost meaningless. do you think that's part of the intention here, in terms of casually throwing around the world's biggest tree and racism and trying to own them themselves? >> well, look. that's the standard playbook from the 1950s. i mean, that's what segregationists said in the 1950s. there are being oppressed because they were white. they felt like they were living in not see germany because of the way the federal government was treating the rights of white people. there's a lot of literature on this. we sort of airbrushed it out of american history because now nobody wants to be remembered as being one of those people are being descended from one of those people. but the idea that civil rights, racial equality was oppressive to white people, was a line that the segregationists like jessie holmes pushed for years. it's not new. it's a revival of a type of

politics in the past that we maybe may have told ourselves we had gotten past. but we really haven't gotten past. i want to be clear that what they're doing -- when dissing anti white bigotry, but not really against -- everybody should be treated equally. they don't believe that. stephen miller, and leaked emails, he portrayed the repeal of racist immigration law was blocking nonwhite immigrants to the united states as the thing that ruined the country. this is someone who is in favor of overt racial discrimination against people who are not white. just as jesse helms was. he just wants to portray any kind of racial equality as a form of oppression against white people, and hope that that scares white people enough to be thinking of themselves as an oppressed class as they walk into the voting booth, and therefore -- >> we're seeing this play out not just in politics, but also the court. the supreme court this week heard arguments against affirmative action effectively and fans and strong support with conservative members on the bench.

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that in 2016, then candidate trump bragged in a primary debate that he doesn't saddle -- ring through a class action lawsuit over trump university, he said i don't do it, and that's why i don't get sued often. because i don't settle, unlike a lot of people. he later settled that suit for $20 million. when one door closes, another one opens. i short time ago, the former president posted on his social media account that he's filed a brand-new lawsuit. this one, filed in the state of florida, is against the eternal january -- attorney general of new york state, patricia james. this comes after james announced a civil suit against trump, three of his adult children, and the trump organization. and in his suit, trump appears to be asking a florida judge to restrain the new york attorney general from being able to get a hold of his assets in the state of florida. trump had previously sued james in federal court in new york. but a judge to reject. we'll see what happens with this one. that does it for us tonight. we'll see you again tomorrow. and