in the way we talk about crime. democrats kept blame whether they run the state are not. something you said earlier, i agree that gas prices are right there in front of you. but you can have villains. republicans are blaming the democrats. democrats should go off and the price gouge. biden did it on monday. he said that these oil companies are making more money than got. but early in the day, windfall tax pulls. it's more popular than apple pie with americans. go on the. >> i was actually skeptical of the case but it's plainly there in the data about the pricing power that some of the grocery chains and oil companies using right now. michelle goldberg, mehdi hassan thank you both very much. that is all in on this thursday night. alex wagner starts right now. good evening alex. evening alex. -- in terms of the record everything else. >> it's really ready to go.

>> he has taking out billboards, but he's not running for president. >> sure. >> thank you, chris, as always. and thank you to you at home for joining us this hour. hazmat suits, paramedics, firefighters at the ballot box. today authorities in adams county colorado right next to denver found -- investigating a ballot they received an envelope containing a suspicious, powdery substance. it is crazy on its face that we are at a point here were someone trying to harm election workers is even within the realm of possibility. but what makes this story truly remarkable is how the adams county clerk is handling all of this. back in may, he told abc news that threats he and his fellow election workers were facing were so bad that he was wearing a bulletproof vest to work. and he was not alone. election workers in multiple colorado counties underwent active shooter training, and started wearing their own bulletproof fasts because of the threats that have been pouring in as a result of the

big lie. the adams county clerk went so far as to ask his employees to not take the same route home from work every day. that is how concerned they are for their own safety. and yet, even when presented with something as terrifying as an envelope containing a suspicious, powdery substance. here is the adams county clerk's response. voters anonymity is protected and their constitutional right to vote is in place. should be determined safe, we will move forward with processing this ballot. >> we will move forward with processing that ballot, even if it contains a suspicious white powdery substance. that is america at its best. that is our democracy at work. facing that kind of threat and still saying that you will do everything possible to make sure every vote counts. that is heroism. and then there is the election news out of wisconsin. a few days ago, republican wisconsin state lawmaker named

gentle branch, and a person known for embracing election related conspiracy theories. janelle branch and got these in the mail. there were three military absentee ballots. they weren't for her. she didn't work and requests them. she just got them in the mail. she took them to the local sheriff and she made a very big deal about how unsecure our elections actually are. now that is on its face something. but what makes this sorry singularly insane is what we learn today. those mystery military absentee ballots were sent to them by the deputy director of milwaukee's election commission. a woman named kimberly zapata. yes, rather than running the election, making sure that every vote was counted. this election director was actively trying to sow distrust in the election. she didn't catch fraud, she made it up. so potter has since been fired, and she may even face misdemeanor state charges,. but that does not fix the damage here. the pernicious theory that

somehow this election is rigged. so over in colorado, we have election workers facing physical threats for just doing their job. and wisconsin, we have election administrators ginning up fraud where it doesn't actually exist. and today, reuters reported that they have identified 23 statewide and local door-to-door canvassing groups intimidating voters. some of them carried weapons and war badges, trying to make themselves seem like they were officials on some kind. rather than explaining where residents could vote or promoting a candidate, these canvassers grilled residents on their voting history, and i asked them who lived in their homes. reuters identified at least 19 states where pro trump canvassers like this are using their, quote unquote, findings. to allege fraud on the basis of an accurate voter registration list. in michigan, that group is already use it -- supposed irregularities to challenge voters in the november 8th election. to be clear, we are now headed

for what will likely be the election with the most allegations of fraud in american history. so just, wow, there is a lot going on here. as bad as the unfounded challenges to the 2020 election were. in retrospect, it sort of looks like amateur our. that was rudy giuliani, right? him improvising election fraud claims in front of four seasons total landscaping. but this year, there are countless organized groups that have plans to watch the polls and work the polls and intimidate voters and spread misinformation. the associated press has already counted more than 100 lawsuits, largely filed by republicans, targeting everything from mail-in voting to voter registration, and access for partisan poll watchers. so what is the plan for everybody else? how do americans, how do officials, how do people who like representative democracy, how do they fight back through all of this chaos? and make sure that this country has an election where the votes are counted and the results are

actually honored? >> after president trump prematurely declared victory in 2020, well before all the votes were in the election was decided. biden campaign manager jen o'malley dillon held daily election protection briefings. where she and a campaign lawyer would break down all of the bogus election lawsuits and talk about what was actually happening with the real election results. those few days in which the election hadn't been called yet, i don't know if you can remember them, but i remember them as sort of foolishly anxious. and anxiety producing. and jen o'malley dillon and her briefings, they were critical in reassuring the country that the process had not been derailed. that the center was still folding. jen o'malley dillon is now president biden's white house deputy chief of staff. and i want to know, from her, what is the plan this year? joining us now is jen o'malley dillon, campaign manager for joe biden in 2020, and current white house deputy chief of staff. jen, thank you so much for being here with us tonight.

i know it is a complicated time for everybody who is looking out in the electoral landscape. i just want to start with how we navigated this just two years ago. what did you learn from doing those briefings for the american public in those fraught days after election day in 2020? >> thanks for having me, alex. you have already brought me back. it is hard to believe it has only been two years. and also, you know, it feels like just yesterday. but, i think what we learned then is what i have a lot of what you heard from president biden last night. which is, we have to communicate what is happening, and how it is gonna go across the country. so that people aren't tracking what is happening. democracy is fragile. knowledge and information is the power that american people have. and that is what the president was talking about last night. that the american people have the right to vote, to make their voices heard. that is the most powerful thing that they participate in

democracy. and at the same time, he wanted to be clear that he is confident that we will have a great election, we will have votes counted. we will be able to vote in safe and secure ways. and he is confident of that. but also, the american people do need to have patience. that is a lot of what we talked about in 2020. many of these states will be close elections. many of these states have already had extraordinary turnout across the country. that is what we want to see people, voting of all parties. that is gonna take time to count. and in some places, the counting of some of those early votes won't start until the morning of election day. in some, it might take a little longer. and in order to ensure every vote is counted, we the american people need to make sure that we understand that that is gonna take some time. we gave it that time in 2020. and we were confident across the board that every vote was counted. it was a free or fair election that this election is founded on and built on. and he expects to see that

again in 2022. >> what, i mean, do you i guess disagree with the thesis we laid out at the start of this conversation. that this year, the existential threats seem so so much more, well, they are more numerous. and it feels much more organized. both from, you know, an outside group perspective and from within the elections infrastructure, there are actors who want to see a bad count. that want to disenfranchise voters. that don't want a free and fair election. do you think we are in a more fraught time in 2022 than we were in 2020 in terms of the actors and the tools they are using to undermine democracy. >> well, i think president biden spoke to this very clearly last night, where he said that democracy is under assault. and that it is up to all of us to be able to do something about it. now, certainly he has been talking about this for a very long time, in fact, this was a

big part of launching his campaign to begin with. that we were an inflection point as a country. that there was a battle for the soul of the nation. and obviously, we saw many of these elements in 2020. but it really does feel like the tip of the iceberg. at the same time i feel like we as a country or prepared. because people like president biden are speaking about this. because the federal government is working closely with state and local law enforcement. and election officials to make sure that people are ready for anything that can happen. that they are very vigilant. i will say, i think it is very important to say that we have been briefed by law enforcement. there are no specific credible threats at this time. obviously, we will continue to stay focused on that. the president is obviously focused on that. he wants to make sure that everyone has the resources they have. department of justice. department of homeland security. the fbi, to make sure that the law was upheld in the people are able to execute their vote in a democracy. but it's a fragile democracy,

and the strength of it, as the president has, that is the people and their voice and their participation. >> hey talk of little bit more with that strategy. chuck the federal government working with state local officials, what is that look like, what can you tell us about what you are preparing for. and how much of it is informed by the strategy you employed in 2020? >> so, you know, of course, i'm speaking from an official standpoint. at this point in the campaign in 2020, that was a little bit more campaign tactics. but what i can tell you, you know, again, there are no credible specific threats at this time. but the president wants to make sure that everyone is ready. so there is a few things that i would point you to. what does that actually look like? well, last week there was a joint intelligence bulletin that went out from department of homeland security, fbi and the department of justice to local election officials to share an alert to the types of threats that people could see in this complex threat environment. to make sure that they are ready to be looking out for the

right things. i know the department of justice and the fbi have for months been trainings that thousands of these election workers to make sure they are prepared and know what to look for and understand. at the same time, department of homeland security has had voluntary security assessments for election facilities so that they can work with them as well. so there is a lot of readiness here, certainly based on experiences that, you know, we are all looking at. and at the same time, making sure that we are in partnership and communication. and we are staying vigilant. but again, the president is extremely confident, has said this to the american people. believes this deeply as he did in 2020. the american peoples votes are gonna be cast, and they are gonna be counted. >> jen, let me just ask you one more question. you talked about patients, right? that was the sort of operative word in the shadow of election day in 2020. and i remember those briefings, you guys were out there saying, just be patient, we know, this is what is happening here. this is what is happening here. we know when a vote is counted.

we will confident that we will be live pictures here. there are gonna be a lot of people that do not have -- in many ways, it feels more fraught. the pump is primed for a much more anxious, potentially violent situation. how does the white house communicate to the rest of american public. no matter whether you are a democrat or a republican, that patience is what is called for in this moment where impatience seems to be the driver? >> look, i think there's two parts to this. first of, all the president has been clear that there is no place for violence or intimidation or harassment in our political discourse. and in our democracy. and when you see that, we need to call that out. and he is gonna continue to say. that at the same time, it is important to make sure that we remember that there are millions and millions of people that will cast their ballots this year. hopefully, and it looks like on track more than recent midterm

elections. and in that case, it is important to remember that it is better to make sure that we have the opportunity to count every single vote, and that sets the expectation. i will add to what you said at the top, most of these election workers are volunteers. they are people like you and i who believe in this country, who give up their time, who work. who are in extraordinary circumstances. we have certainly heard that through the january 6th committee and what we saw in many of the states in 2020. so these are people in your communities, in your neighborhoods, doing this work because this is what they believe in. their democracy, their commitment to this country. because of them, the unsung heroes of all of this, we are gonna have a election that every vote will be counted. we are confident of that and we are continue to give our sport there across the country. >> in an overtones, overgenerously dylan. just seeing you and hearing you talk about the 2020 election and urging patience is giving me i, think, -- i am seriously deeply

appreciative of your time in efforts. thank you, why steve deputy chief of staff generally dylan, thanks for your time. >> thanks, alex, great to be with. >> you coming up, as new york state judge has ordered an tenet watchdog to independent -- trump organization's financial transactions, citing, quote, defendants propensity to engage and fraud -- first, daisy abrams joins me to talk about the high stakes race for governor of georgia. and what exactly is happening with black voter turnout. stay with us. with us alice loves the scent of gain so much, she wished there was a way to make it last longer. say hello to your fairy godmother alice and long lasting gain scent beads. try spring daydream, part of our irresistible scent collection.

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we are five days out from election day. five days from learning who will control congress next, year and what the national agenda will be for the next two years. 36 states are also picking a governor on tuesday. and those races are among the most consequential in the nation. some of the pieces of legislation that most directly impact you are assigned not by the president but by the governor of your state. we have seen governor signed bills that improve the lives of their constituents, and we have seen others that do the exact opposite. in an interview with npr, stacey abrams who is the woman who has the chance of becoming the nation's first black female governor. she explained this very clearly. >> in georgia, the governor is

an extraordinarily powerful job. stand-your-ground was signed by a governor, not by a president. the evisceration of the social safety net started with a governor, not not with congress. jim crow started and was the product of southern governors. >> voters in georgia were given a sharp reminder of the states legacy of jim crow and the history that preceded it in march of 2021, when their governor brian kemp signed his election integrity act. a republican sponsored overhaul of the states elections. when he signed into law. it restricts voting by mail, that limits drop boxes, increases voter i.d. requirements. and criminalizes passing out water to voters waiting all day in line. democrats expected the law to make it harder for black people to vote. and it was being signed by a man who purged hundreds of thousands of primarily black voters from the voting roles in 2018. as secretary of state. and later approached 100,000 more as governor. democrats like state

congresswoman park cannon protested. she was then arrested for not -- knocking on the governor's door as he signed that bill. do you remember that? >> that is because kemp signed into law behind closed doors. and once the ink was dry, kemp tweeted this picture of him and a half dozen white men who were allowed in the room. do you see that painting hanging above him? that is georges callaway plantation. it is a 56 acre historic site where white landowners enslaved more than 100 black people. a large swath of agriculture land, in a county where black people trying to escape enslavement or hunted down by hounds. black people were emancipated from that plantation 1865. only to be subjected to jim crow laws aimed at restricting their right to vote by the 1890s. that is the history. governor that is the law now in effect for the first time -- in a georgia election cycle. by way of context here, brian kemp won georgia's race for

governor by fewer than 55,000 votes. 55,000 out of 4 million cast. he is now running again, with five days to go. and every single vote counts. joining us now is stacey abrams, the democratic candidate for governor of georgia who is in the final leg of her campaign. right in these very hours. stacy, thank you so much for being here tonight. >> thank you for having me. >> so, let me just first ask, the washington post has an extensive piece of reporting on the black vote in america. and it rightly points out that black voters were responsible for turning georgia blue. that black voters got joe biden elected in many ways. what is your expectation for black voter turnout in this election by election day? we know early voting has started. how do you see the numbers? where do you see -- >> the numbers are extraordinary. we have seen black men participate at 91.8% of their 2020 general election turnout. we have seen black women

participate at 90%. these are the two highest concentrations of voters. and let's be clear, they are participating despite the impediments of espy 202. despite the racially charged voter challenges authorized by this bill. despite the barriers to using absentee ballots, which black voters used in abundance in 2018 and 21 into all the time was truncated and the process made more come complicated. they are just doing this despite your photos and barriers, because they know how vital this election is. and that it is deeply disingenuous, if not simply tone-deaf for a secretary of state or governor to dismiss the difficulties black and brown voters have in this state, simply because they haven't experienced themselves. and what we are so excited about is to despite the difficulties that have been put in place by this governor and the secretary of state. black voters are showing up, as we like to say, showing out.

>> yes, and when you talk about the dismissals on the part of the governor, we know that brad raffensperger, the republican secretary of state estimates the claims that somehow this bill made it difficult for black votes to vote because the turnout. you are seeing here that the turnout is despite the hurdles. that very much remain in place in the state of georgia. do you think that in some ways it galvanized black voters, or do you think that that is a function of just the stakes and the candidates and everything else that is going on? in terms of american democracy? i think it is all of the above. there could not be a clear contrast between me and my opponent. between raphael warnock and herschel walker. i believe in women's right to choose, as does rafael warnock. herschel walker, brian kemp will strip women of those rights, even though they believe that -- they are hypocrites on this issue. raphael warnock and i believe in access to health care for half 1 million georgians who are being denied that access right now. brian kemp oversaw the shutdown of six hospitals.

including a level one trauma center on tuesday. which means atlanta, at the metro area, has one level one trauma center. by contrast, charleston, south carolina has three. atlanta has one. and the population of atlanta, metro atlanta, is larger than the population of the state of south carolina. we know that this is about our future. especially our right to survive. and black voters understand this at a visceral level. and they are turning, out because they have talked about this for the past two years. that is the only way to defeat voter suppression, with voter turnout. and that is the they are showing up and making that. so >> how, though, there is the piece of how you sort of protect the lives of your constituents through making sure they have access to health care, that they have reproductive choice. there is policy decisions you can make as governor that directly impact the lives of your constituents. especially black and brown people. but what about the sort of existential threats that people of color are facing right now. i refer back to this washington post piece where they report

that black leaders are observing more hate and hostility towards black people. hayden hostility towards jewish people. asian americans, various immigrant groups. people feel like they are under assault. how would you as governor ensure that their lives are protected? how do you navigate this climate of fear and hatred when it is very much playing out in your backyard in the state of georgia? >> i will continue to do as governor what i have done for the last 15 years. when we launched this campaign, stacey abrams talk calm, you will see that we have our website in multiple languages. we did it from the outset so that communities of color could access information and immediately in their native tongues. we did that because i see everyone. i have worked hard to build relationships across communities. with the latina communities, the a pay -- van dam to weaken which is the only state recognized native american tribe in georgia. i have done the work of reaching out to black voters across the board. and we do so because i

understand it. but it is also about making sure the laws respect us. six asian woman were murdered in march of 2021 by a young man who was able to purchase a weapon without a waiting period. and go to three different locations and kill six asian women. and the response of this governor was to try to weaken gun laws weeks later. to make it even easier for those murders to have occurred. that is the difference. it is a difference that is clear. so it is not just about what we do with the law, it is about who we see as part of the state. i am standing up for and fighting for every georgian. building a multi racial multi ethnic coalition. and we are seeing it work. that is why i am so excited and so bullish on this election. because we know that when people hear themselves reflected and when they see themselves respected, they show up. because they know that's when democracy is at its strongest. and they have the right to set the future. >> well, i just have one more question for you. as you mentioned, herschel walker.

we are talking about race. race is a very, very complicated issue. especially in georgia race. raphael warnock, herschel walker running against each other. when you are on the campaign trail when you are talking to voters of color. how are they looking at that race? where you have two black men have very different qualifications, shall i say. and i'm being -- what do you hear about how people are processing that? and thinking about the implications of electing either one of them in many respects? electing raphael warnock is very different than electing herschel walker. >> i think too often race is seen as a reductive point of conversation. it is the beginning of the conversation. we know in this country, race tells us something. but it doesn't tell us everything. and what we are seeing with raphael warnock versus herschel walker, what we are seeing in my election. is that while race may be the beginning of the conversation, people want to know what you are doing with those experiences. what does it mean to grow up black and four in the south,

which both herschel walker and raphael warnock did, as do i. the difference is, what raphael warnock and i have done with those experiences expanded opportunities for others. we have fought for access for others. we have leveraged our experiences to create more for others. the same cannot be said of herschel walker. and the same can certainly not be said about a governor who allows six hospitals to shut down, who has weakened gun laws. who has it stripped women of their access to abortion rights. who has said that it is not his job to close 100-year economic purity gap. and who has said he doesn't want to provide access to affordable housing, because he doesn't want to upset investors. when you don't understand those experiences, you cannot have an intelligent conversation about how to solve, it when your position of power often allows you to ignore the realities. and four people are seeing is that raphael warnock -- stacey abrams as the next governor will stand and fight for them and together we can win for them. >> and certainly will not be sending bills into law in front

of pictures of a plantation in georgia. i think that is fair guaranteed, stacey abrams, democratic candidate for governor in georgia. we will be following this race, stacey abrams. good luck there, out there on the trail. thank you for your time tonight. >> thank you. >> up next here tonight, a big win for new york city army general and her lawsuit against donald trump's company. we have details on that coming up. and later, what exactly is at stake for democrats in the house? and why they are not giving up despite the historical odd. stay with us. with us detect this: living with hiv, i learned i can stay undetectable with fewer medicines. that's why i switched to dovato. dovato is for some adults who are starting hiv-1 treatment or replacing their current hiv-1 regimen.

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vote yes on proposition 31. it was six weeks ago that new york attorney general letitia james filed a 250 million-dollar fraud lawsuit against donald trump, his businesses, and three of his adult children. and on that same day, the very day laetitia james filed that suit seeking to make trump's company and his family pay $250 million. the trump organization created a brand-new company. a new corporate entity that they registered in new york. it was called, and i am not kidding here. trump organization to, llc. let's all move the money to the trump organization to, then they will never find. it to be clear, we do not know that they created this new carbon coffee of the trump organization as part of a plan to hide assets, but that is

certainly what tish james thought they were trying to do. and she asked the judge in her fraud lawsuit to issue an injunction preventing the trump organization from transferring and its assets anywhere, like to the trump organization to. well, today, that judge granted their requests. trump lawyer argued that a court lawyer was invest unnecessary, basically a hate, now you can trust, us we are not moving our assets anywhere. to charge sided with the new york attorney general. why? among other things, because of trump and his companies, quote, demonstrated potential d to engage in persistent fraud. adding insult to injury, the judges also going to end appointed independent monitor to oversee the trump organization, paid for by trump's company. and you know the that one's gonna sting. you can tell how much laetitia james and her fraud lawsuit are getting under trump's skin, because trump has now filed his own counter suit against the new york attorney general. call it a counter suit, but it is really more of an extended truth social post in lawsuit form. quote, the continuing witch

hunt that has haunted and targeted donald trump since he came down the golden escalator at trump tower in june of 2015 continues. president trump built a great and prosperous company that but -- a company nevertheless, that must be -- powerfully managed, it's hard to read that with a straight face. delicately yet powerfully managed. he manages that company so powerfully. and so delicately. you can literally hear the dictation in this lawsuit. it continues, quote, the interference by a political hack like james who is using this lawsuit for political gain would bring great harm to the company, the brand, the employees and its overall reputation. likewise, it could virtually destroy the highly profitable florida properties, which include the legendary trump national golf club and resort. one of the most successful in the world. trump international golf club in palm beach, florida, trump jupiter country club in jupiter, florida. and of course, one of the greatest unsuccessful clubs in the world, the mar-a-lago club.

this is a lawsuit! as in, a legal document! is he trying to pitch the judge on a golf club membership? it sort of seems like he has. in fact, the lawsuit is so ridiculous that the new york times reports today that many of trump's legal advisers hotly opposed filing it at all, with good reason. one of them told the lawyers filing the suit for trump that they might be committing malpractice. but much like his tax returns, trump appears to be very very committed to keeping certain financial secrets. his new lawsuit seeks to prevent the new york attorney general from getting access to the donald j trump revak-able trust. he had to tee under which all of his other assets are structured. among the financial secrets contained therein? quote, the trust contains his private estate plans. and present decisions regarding the disposition of his assets upon death. is that with this is about? he doesn't want his kids to find out what he has left them? joining us now is new york law

school professor rebecca -- former manhattan assistant da -- thank you for being here. >> my pleasure. >> i am sorry for the theatrics, but the little suit calls for it. and it does beg the question, is that what he is trying to hide? basically his estate plans, who gets white in the trump empire? what do you think all this human cry is about? >> i don't think he is so concerned about what they are gonna see. i think this is, in a way, publicity. as well as an effort to, a last-ditch, effort a hail mary to stop this investigation that is increasingly closing in on him in a way that is troubling. i mean, there is a lot at stake. >> do you, so, his lawyers, at least a fraction of the lawyers did not want trump to file this hail mary. what are the effects it could have on the case? even if it is basically thrown out? i mean, does this further antagonize the ag's office? what about the judge that is making all of the decisions in this case? >> yeah, the attorney general

already uses as a reason for why they ought to issue the injunction. because he said, you know, all of this mention of the florida organization suggests that he is interested in moving the money out of control of these organizations, such that it will be harder for the new york attorney general to access those funds should they win this lawsuit. so she has already turned this into her benefit by suggesting this lawsuit is a reason why he should issue the injunction. >> this is evidence that trump really wants to move everything out of the state where she has purview. but to the lawsuit itself but trump's filing, beyond being, like, a kind of 48-page version of a truth social post. does it have any merit? is there any judge in the state of florida -- we know there are some wackadoodles in the state of florida, documents drama from mar-a-lago. is there any chance that a florida judge looks at the case trump lays out here and says, you know, what this is credible? >> i think there is most absolutely no chance. i, mean we really have, he has

filed a number of very close to frivolous or frivolous lawsuits for the past several years. and this is up there as one of the most frivolous. because what is essentially asking is one separate sovereign to walk into another sovereigns business and stop a state investigation. and that is just not how it is. done there are mechanisms within new york to challenge the attorney general's investigation, he has already used some of them. and this is just not the way you do. >> it and he is going to florida, you, think so he can find sympathetic? ear or what is evidence of? >> i think it's two, things one, he is still doing publicity. he is still trying to use this to claim, look, this is a political witch hunt. to, a group of people might be willing to hear that are more receptive to that message. and then he is also, you know, trying, i think, you know, who knows -- may have manipulated his lawyers know doing something he thinks might work. my privacy has been interfered with by this investigation. and i have a right to privacy under florida law. therefore, you have to step in

and protect me. maybe this is in his view something that i think that the court can do. but it is just not. >> pretty the lawyer that had to write this suit. it is a piece of work! as a piece of work. rebecca roiphe, former manhattan district attorney, thank you so much for your time tonight. >> thank you. >> it's great to see you. up next, why democrats are not giving up on their chances of holding the house. patrick gaspard joins us here in just a moment. a moment there's a different way to treat hiv. it's every-other-month, injectable cabenuva. for adults who are undetectable, cabenuva is the only complete, long-acting hiv treatment you can get every other month. cabenuva helps keep me undetectable. it's two injections, given by my healthcare provider, every other month. it's one less thing to think about while traveling.

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this is new jersey congressman andy kim, in the late hours in the night after the january 6th attack at the tax capital, getting on his hands and used to help clean up the seat of our government. andy kim was first elected to congress in 2018, when he narrowly defeated tom macarthur, in a race it was so close to call, it took eight days to get the final result. -- eight points when he found himself cleaning up after a violent attack against american democracy. and by 2022, it was looking like he would be in congress for a while, after redistricting in new jersey his district tilted more democratic than it had before. but in the final days of his campaign, congressman kim is one of many democrats are suddenly find themselves in a tighter race and they were expecting. kim is running against bobby healy a punk rock star, turned

a luxury yacht salesman, who's made his campaign all about education and cultural war issues like such sex education in that -- from likely democratic to leans democratic. and the cam is not the only one. congressman katie porter, who's made a name for herself taking on a big bank ceos and congressional hearings. she now finds herself in a toss-up race against a pro-life republican, who told his california constituents he would've voted against called defying marriage equality into law. elaine luria, a member of the january six committee, and leading voice in the fight to defend a democracy, she is in a toss-up race for her district in virginia, against an election denier who refuses to say if joe biden won the 2020 election. and then there's sean patrick maloney, the head of the democratic party's campaign on house races. the guy who has access to all the democratic parties fundraising tools, and its voter data. earlier this year, when a new york court throughout the

states congressional maps, and threw them into chaos, maloney basically compelled his fellow democratic congressman, mondaire jones, into retirement, so that maloney could try to hold on to his upstate new york district. but, now sean patrick maloney is one of the many democrats whose race is considered a toss-up. just last, week the democratic party's campaign had to dump some hundred thousand dollars into that race, just to try to keep its writ leader in congress. with just five days to go until election day, there's been a lot of, focus rightly, so on senate and governors races across the country. the democrats are facing a very difficult election for the house of representatives. and if republicans could prevail, the biden administration can spend the next two years by mired in congressional investigations, and debt ceiling standoffs, but the parties radical -- as taking the reins. it's not just about losing power. when you talk about losses, we're also talking about losing people who did a very hardworking congress, whether it's cleaning up the capital,

or fighting for democracy, or taking on big corporations, or coordinating campaigns across the country. that is what is at stake. joining us now is patrick gaspard, former dnc, chair and senator of progress. thanks for joining me. >> thanks for having me, alex. >> you know how this goes. this is an election like no other, but what traditionally happens, and what can't happen, here, mine in the next five days? >> alex, i was actually heartened what i read that report. i wasn't discouraged in the least. i had the privilege of being that political director in the 2010 midterm election, when we received official liking, i will tell you, at this point close to the election, they were looking at how all these house races in swing districts, and we were trailing, and in some cases trailing significantly. you just laid out a number of swing districts, where democrats are incredibly competitive. we always assume then

understood the margin is closes close to election day, he's a 50 50 district, some of these districts trump did extremely well. yet we're competitive. we >> are glass half full person? . >> no, we give ourselves a fighting chance, by governors so is the right thing over the last year and a half, by passing the inflation reduction act, the infrastructure bill, stimulus, we did all of these measures to help middle class americans that republicans did not voters support, and we did it while fighting big pharma, biting big oil, fighting those who are trying to stop a president from enacting the student debt relief bill, and housing relief, so we give ourselves a fighting chance, and now all of those candidates -- congressman, kim patrick maloney, they really have to drive a sharp contrast between the future, that they author with.

there has to national security medicare, that we haven't heard articulated by kevin mccarthy. we know it's a campaign i wish i had in 2010. >> i do want to ask you about the maga republicans, president biden spoke yesterday, and on the national stage about this. how do you make democrats, or voters in blue states, and there is a national election denier on the ticket. yes they are live in a state like california where new york where they feel effectively protected interns for reproductive feelings. how do you conjure a sense of urgency for voters who may not feel as animated by those existential concerns? >> you always ask the best questions, i knew stuff it in. >> i'm sorry. >> that's okay, this notion that people in blue states may not be feeling effective row

being rolled back. let's remember that we're already seeing blue states been absolutely overwhelmed by women who are coming from deep red states, who are seeking reproductive health care options. and makes it much harder for women in the blue states to receive the care they need, that's the first thing. >> the second thing is that on this notion that maybe there aren't streams running everywhere. we're looking at the cook report earlier. the top competitive seat, two thumbs of them are being contested by republicans, who did not have the outcome of the election in 2020. there are 300 folks, according to the washington post, who are running now for senate, governor, congressional seat, state legislator seats, who deny that joe biden's president the united states,. e united states, folks need to call them out and

sandra. and i have also say, alex, you, know we don't have that many single issue voters in america anymore. abortion is certainly important, and we have already seen that even in ruby red states like alaska, following the dobbs ruling. we outperformed expectations in those states. i can imagine that is gonna continue into next tuesday. but folks obviously care about the economy. they care about democracy in addition to abortion. and democrats have to drive those hard contrasts in those spaces as well. >> well, part of the reason we wanted to show the faces of the people who are in these challenging races to remind people of what -- not just about republicans represent, but with democrats represent in this very treacherous time for the world state. >> those candidates who are gonna do a great job of taking up that narrative challenge, and they are gonna lay out and have a real chance. >> patrick gaspard, former dnc chair and now president of the senator for american progress, great to, you thanks for your

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