they received in an envelope it is crazy on its face that harming election workers is in

the realm of a true story. what is remarkable is how the clerk is handling this he told abc news that the fellow election workers were facing threats and he was wearing a bullet-proof vest to work. and he was not alone election workers in multiple colorado counties underwent active shooter straining and have been wearing bullet-proof the clerk went so far as to ask employees to not take the same route home from work every day.e that is how concerned they are for their own safety. and, yet, even when presented with something as terrifying as an envelope containing a suspiciousnt powdery substance, here is the adams county clerk's response. voters anonymity is protected and constitutional right to vote is in place. should it be determined safe, we will move forward with processing this ballot. we will move forward processing that ballot.ro

even if it contains a suspicious white powdery substance. that is america at its best. that is our democracy at work. facing that kind of threat and still saying you will do everything possible to make sure every vote counts. that is heroism:then there is the election news out of wisconsin. that is on its face something. but what makes this story singularly insane is what we learned today. milwaukee's election commission. a woman named kimberly zepatta.

yes, rather than running the election, making sure every vote is counted, this election director was actively trying to sow distrust in the election. she didn't catch fraud, she made it up. she has been fired and may even be misdemeanor state charges. that does not fix the damage here. the pernicious theory that this election is rigged. so over in colorado, we have election workers facing physical threats for doing their jobs. in wisconsin, we have election fraud ginning up fraud where it doesn't exist. reuters identified canvassing group intimidating voters. some carrying weapons and they wore barges trying to make themselves seem like they were officials of some kind rather than explaining where residents could vote or promoting a candidate,pr they grilled residents on voting history and

asked them who lived in their homes. reuters identified 19 states where canvassers like this are using findings to allege fraud on the basis of inaccurate voter registration lists n michigan that, group l is planning to us their list of irregularities to challenge voters in an election. to be clear, we are now headed for what is likely to be the election with the most allegations of fraud in american history. so just wow. there is a lot going on here. as bad as the unfounded challenges to the 2020 election were, in retrospect, it looks like amateur hour. that is rudy giuliani, right? improvising fraud claims in front ofai four seasons total landscaping. but this year there are countless organized groups that have plans to watch the polls and work the polls and intimidateol voters and spread

misinformation. they helped daily election briefings where shed and a campaign lawyer wille break do the bogus election lawsuits and talk aboutti what is actually happening with the real election results.on those few days in which the election was called whyet, i dot know if you remember them.

the center was still holding. she is now president biden's white house deputy chief of ty staff. i want to know from her what is the plan this year. dylan campaign manager for 2020 and current white house deputy chief of staff. thank you so much for being hern with us tonight. it's a complicated time for everybody who is looking out in the lekt ral landscape. i want to start with how we navigated this just two years ago. what did you learn from doing those briefings for the american public in those fraught days after election day in 2020. >> thanks for having me, alex. you already brought me back. hard to believe it's only been two years and also, you know, it feels like just yesterday. i think what we learn then is a lot of what you heard from president biden last night which

is we have to communicate what is going to happen and how it's going toha go across the countr so that people are tracking what is happening. democracy is fragile. knowledge and information is the power that the american people have. and that's what the president was talking about last night. that the american people have the right to vote, to make shir voices heard. that is the most powerful thing that they participate in this democracy. and at the same time. hecr wanted to be clear.

and in order to ensure every vote is counted, we the american people need to make sure that we understand that's goingak to ta some rstime. we gave it that time in 2020. and we were confident across the board. every vote is counted. it was as free and fair electi that this country is founded on and built o on. he expects to see that again in 2022. >> the threats are more numerous and feels much more organized. both orfrom, you know, an outsi group perspective and from within the elections infrastructure. there are actors who want to see a bad count. that want to disenfranchise voters. that don't want a free and fair

election. do you think the actors and tools they're using to undermin democracy? >> i think president biden spoke to this very clearly last night where he said that democracy is under assault. certainly he's been talking about this for a very long time. in fact, this is a big part of launching his campaign to begin with. that we were an inflection point in a country. battle for the soul of the nation. obviously, we saw many of these elements in 2020. but it yale does feel like the tip of the iceberg. at the same time, i think that we as a country are more prepared. because people like president biden are speaking about this. because the federal government working closely with state and local law enforcement andat election officials to make sure people are ready for anything that could happen. that they're vigilant.

we have been briefed by law enforcement. there are no specific credible threats at this time.w ti obviously, we'll continue to stayob focused on. that the president was -- is obviously focused on that. he wants to make sure that everyone has the keresources th have, department of justice, department of homeland security, fbi, to make sure that law is i, upheld and people are able to execute their vote in a p democracy. but it's a fragile democracy and the strength of it as the president said is in the people andsa voice and participation. >> can you talk to me about that strategy? you talk about the federal government working with state and local officials, what does that look like?? what you are l preparing for? how much is it informed by the strategy in 2020?gy >> of course, i'm speaking from an official standpoint at this point and the campaign in 2020 was a little bit more campaign tactics.mp but what i can tell you, again, there are no credible specific threats at this time. but the president wants to make sure everyone is ready. so if there is a few things i would point you to. what does it look like?

well, last week there was a joint intelligence bulletin that went out from department of homeland security, fbi, and the department of justice to local election officials to share an alert the types of threats that people could potentially see in this complex threat environment. and to make sure that they're ready to be looking out for the right things. i know the department of justice and fbi are training thousands of these election workers to makele sure that they're prepar and they know what to look for. they had security assessments. there is a lot of readiness based on experience that's, your know, we are all looking at and at the same time making sure that we're in partnership and communication and just staying

vigilant. they're in the shadow of election day in 2020. i remember the briefings. people were saying, be patient. this is what is happening here. we know when the vote is counted. we're confident we're the victimors here. there are going to be a lot of people that do not have a lot of patience after election day this year. how does the white house communicate to the rest of american public no matter whether you're a democrat or republican thatra patience is wt is called for in this moment where impatience seems to be the driver. >> look, i think there are two parts. first of all, the president is clear there is no place for

violence or intimidation or harassment. in our political discourse. and in our democracy.in and when you see that, we need to call that out. he's going to continue to say that. at the same time, it is important to make sure that we remember that there are millions and millions of people that will cast their ballots this year. hopefully on track more than recent midterm elections. in that case, it is important to remember it is better to make sure we have the opportunity to count t every single vote and tt is his expectation. i add that most of these election workers are volunteers. they're people like you and i who believe in this country, wh give up their time, who work and in extraordinary circumstances. we certainly have heard that and so these are people in your communities, in your neighborhoods doing this work because this is what they i believe in and their democracy and commitment to this country.

and because of them, the heroes of all of this, we're going to have a -- an election that every vote will be counted. >> it ain't over until it's over. just seeing you i and hearing y talk about the 2020 election and urging patience is giving me i think anxiety. i'm seriously deeply appreciative of your efforts. thank you very much. thank you for your time. great to be with you.ea >> coming up, a new york state judge ordered an independent watchdog to supervise the trump organization's financial trance agencies citing, quote, defendants propensity to engage in persistent fraud. we'll discuss with the former assistant d.a. but first, stacy abrams joins me to talk about the high stakes race for the governor of georgia and what exactly is happening with black voter turnout. stay with us. eing with black voter turnout stay with us

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we are five days out from election day. five days from learning who will control congress and what the national agenda will be for the next two years. they're also picking a governor on tuesday. these are among the most consequential in the nation. some of the legislation that most directly impact you are

assigned not by the president but by the governor of your state. stacy abrams is the woman that has a chance to become the nation's first black female governor, she explained this very clearly. >> in georgia, the governor is extraordinarily powerful job. sandra brown was assigned by a governor, not a president. the evisceration of the social sest net started with a governor, not with congress. jim crow started and was the product of southern governors. >> voters in georgia were given a sharp reminder of the legacy of jim crow and history that precede i had it in march of 2021 when the govern signed the election integrity act. he signed that into law. it restricts voting by mail, increases voter id requirements

and criminalizes passing out water to voters waiting all day in line. democrats expected the law to make it harder for black people to vote and being signed by a man who purged hundreds of thousands of primarily black voters from the voting roles in 2018 and secretary of state and later purged 100,000 more as governor. democrats like state congresswoman park canyon protested. she was then arrested for knocking on the governor's dor as he signed that bill. do you remember that? kemp signed it into law behind closed doors. and once the inch was dry, he tweeted this picture of him and the half dozen white men allowed in the room. do you see that painting above him? that is georgia's callaway plantation. a 56 acre historic site where white land owner enslaved 100 black people in a large swath of agriculture land and people trying to escape enslavement were hunted down by hounds. five people were emancipated

from that plantation in 1865. only to be subjected to jim crow laws aimed at restricting willing right to vote by the 1990s. that's that. the history. he chose to envoek as he signed this bill. en that is a law now in infect for the first time in a georgia general election cycle. by way of context here in, 2018, brian kemp won the race for governor by fewer than 55,000 votes. 55,000 out of 4 million cast. he is now running again with five days to go. and every single vote counts. joining us now is stace qui abrams. in the final leg of her campaign right in these very hours. stacy, thank you so much for being here to tonight. >> thank you for having me. >> the "washington post" has an extensive piece of reporting on the black vote in america. it points out that black voters were responsible for turning georgia blue. that black voters got joe biden

lekted in many ways. what is your expectation for black voter turnout in they election by election day? we know early voting started. how do you see the numbers? >> the numbers -- >> go ahead. >> the numbers are extraordinary. we have seen black men participate at 91.8% of their 2020 general election turnout. we have seen black women participant at 90%. these are the two highest concentrations of voters. they're participating despite the impedestrianments of this. despite the racially charged voter challenges authorized by sb 202. despite the barriers to the absentee ballots which they used in abundance in 2018 and 2021 until the time was truncated and process made more complicated. they are doing this despite hurdles and barriers because they know how vital the election is. and it is deeply disingenuous if not tone deaf for a secretary of

state or a governor to dismiss the difficulties black and brown voters have in this state because they have an experience with themselves. what we're so exciting is the difficulties put in place by this governor and this secretary of state. black voters are showing up as we like to say, showing out. >> yes. when you talk about the dismissals on the part of the governor, we know that the republican secretary of state has dismissed the claims that somehow sb 202 made it difficult for black voekz to vote because witness the turnout. you're saying here that the turnout is did despite the hurdles that very much remain in place in the state of georgia. do you think that in some ways it galvanize black voters sore that a function of just the stakes and the candidates and everything else that's going on? >> i think it's all of the above. there could not be a clear contrast between me and my

opponent,en with warnock and herschel walker. i believe in a woman's right to choose. kemp will strim women of those rights even though they believe some of the hypocrite on this issue. war knock and i believe in access to health care for georgians being denied the 5:00 sesz right now. he oversaw the shut down of six hospitals including a level one trauma center on tuesday. that means that lap has one level, one trauma center. charleston, south carolina, has three and atlanta has one. the population of atlanta is larger than the population of the state of south carolina. we know that this is about our future. especially our right to survive. and black voters understand this at a visceral level. and they are turning out because we talked about this for the past two years. that's the only way to defeat voter suppression and they're showing up and making that so. >> how though?

there is the piece of how you protect the lives of your constituents by making sure they have access to health care. there is policy decisions can you make as governor that directly impact the lives of your constituents, especially black and brown people. but what about the sort of threat that's people of color are facing right now. i refer back to this "washington post" piece. they report that black voters are observing more hate and hostility towards black people. hate and hostility towards jewish people, asian americans, various immigrant groups, people feel like they're under assault. how would you as governor ensure that their lives are protected? how do you navigate this climate of fear and hatred when it is playing out in your backyard in the state of georgia? >> i'll continue to do as governor what i've done for the last 15 years. when we launch the campaign, you will see that we have our website in multiple languages. we did it from the outset so that communities of color could

access information immediately in their native tongue. we work hard to build relationship as cross communities, been down to the only state recognized -- state recognized native-american tribe in georgia. i've done work of reaching out to black voters across the board. we do so because i understand it. but it is about making sure the laws respect us. six asian women were murdered in march of 2021 by a man able to purchase a weapon would the a waiting period and go to three different locations and kill six asian women. the response was to weaken gun laws weeks later, to make it even easier for those murders to have occur. that's the difference. and it is a difference that is clear. and so it's not just about what we do with the law, it's who we see as part of the state. i am standing up for and fighting for every georgian. building a multiracial,

multi-ethnic coalition and seeing it work. that's why i'm so excited and bullish on they election. we know that when people hear themselves reflected and when they see themselves respected they show up. that's what democracy is at its strongest, when they have the right to set the future. >> i have one more question for you as you mentioned herschel walker. we were talking about race, race is a very complicated issue. how are they looking at that race, two black men of very different qualifications and i'm being you've mystic. what do you hear about how people are processing that and thinking about the implications of electing either one of them in many respects.

>> i think race is seen as a reductive point of conversation. it is the beginning of the conversation. we know race tells us something. what we're seeing with warnock versus herschel walker and in my election is that while race is the beginning of the conversation, people want to know what you're doing with those experiences. what does it mean to grow up black and pour in the south? they know as do i, but the difference is what warnock and i have done with the experiences is expand opportunity for others. we have fought for access for others. we have leveraged our experiences to create more for others. the same cannot be said of herschel walker. and the same cannot be said of a governor who allows six hospitals to shut down, who weakened gun laws and stripped women of access to abortion rights, who said that it is not his job to close a 100-year economic period gap and said he doesn't want to provide access to affordable housing. he doesn't want to upset

investors. you xrnt an intelligent conversation to solve them when the position of power allows you to ignore the realities. what people are saying is that rafael warnock and stacy abrams will stand and fight for them and together we can win for them. >> and certainly you will not be signing bills into law in front of pictures of plantations in georgia. i think that is fairly guaranteed. stacy abrams, democratic candidate for governor in georgia. we'll be following this race, stacy abrams. good luck out there on the trail. thanks for your time tonight. >> thank you. >> up next here tonight, a big win for new york's attorney general and her lawsuit against donald trump's company. we have details on that coming up. and later, what exactly is at stake for democrats in the house? and why they are not giving up despite the historical odds. stay with us. despite the historical odds. stay with us

it was six weeks ago that new york attorney general james filed a $250 million fraud lawsuit against donald trump, his business, and three of his adult children. and on that same day, the very day she filed that suit suking to make trump and his family pay $250 million, the trump organization created a new

corporate entity they registered in new york. it was called, and i'm not kidding here, trump organization two llc. let's move all the money to trump organization two and they'll never find it. to be clear, we do not know that they created this new carbon copy of the trump organization as part of the plan to hide as sets, but that certainly what she thought they were trying to do. and she asked the judge in her fraud lawsuit to issue an injunction preventing the trump organization from transferring any of its assets anywhere like to trump organization two. today that judge granted their request. trump's lawyer argued that a court order is unnecessary. hey now, you can trust us, we're not moving assets anywhere. but the judge sided with the new york attorney general. why? because among other things, trump and his companies demonstrated propensity to engage in persistent fraud. they're going to appoint a monitor to oversee the trump organization paid for by trump's

company. and you no he that one is going to sting. you can tell how much la tisha james and the fraud lawsuit are getting under trump's skin. he has now filed his own counter suit against the new york attorney general. i call it a counter suit. it is more of an extended truth social post in lawsuit form. quote, the continuing witchunt that is chasing trump continues. president trump built a great and prosperous company that should be powerfully managed. it is hard to read that with a straight face. delicately yet powerfully managed. he manage that's company so powerful and so delicately. you can literally hear the dictation in this lawsuit. it continues. the interference by a political hack like jamdz who is using this lawsuit for political gain would bring great harm to the company, the brand, the employees, and the overall

reputation. likewise, it could virtually destroy the highly profitable florida properties which include the legendary trump national golf club and resort, most successful in the world. trump international golf club in florida and jupiter, florida, and, of course, one of the greatest and most successful clubs in the world, the mar-a-lago club. this is a lawsuit as in a legal document. is he trying to pitch the judge on a golf club membership? sort of seems like he s the lawsuit is so ridiculous "the new york times" reports that many of trump's legal advisors hotly opposed filing it at all. with good reason. one of them told the lawyers filing the suit they might be committing malpractice. but much like his tax returns, trump appears to be very, very committed to keeping certain financial secrets. his new lawsuit seeks to prevent them from getting access to the donald tr trump trust, the entity under which all of the other assets are structured.

among the financial secrets contained therein, quote, the trust contains his private estate plans and present decisions regarding the disposition of his assets upon death s that what this is about? he doesn't want his kids to find out what he left them. joining us is new york law school professor, assistant da. thank you for being here. >> my pleasure. >> i mean, i'm sorry for the theatrics. but the lawsuit calls for it. and it does beg the question, is that what he's trying to hide? >> i don't think he's concerned about what we're going to see. this is in a way publicity as well as an effort to hail mary to stop this investigation. that is increasingly closing in on him in a way that is troubling. there is a lot at stake.

>> do you -- so his lawyers, at least a faction of the lawyers did not want trump to file the hail mary. does this further antagonize the ag's office? what with the judge? >> the attorney general already used this as a reason for why they ought toish unite injunction. she said, you know, all this mention of the florida organization suggests that he is interested in moving the money out of control of these organizations such that it is harder for the new york attorney general to access the funds should they win this lawsuit. and so she's already turned this into her benefit by suggesting this lawsuit is a reason why he should issue the injunction. >> this is evidence that trump wants to move everything out of the state where she has perview. to the lawsuit itself, beyond being like a kind of 48 page version of a truth social post, does it have any merit? is there any judge in the state

of florida, and i know there are some whacky judges in the state of florida as we've seen from the mar-a-lago documents drawn up, but is there any chance that a florida judge looks at the case trump lays out here and says, you know what? this is credible? >> i think there is almost absolutely no chance. i mean, we really have -- he has filed a number of very close to frivolous lawsuits over the past several years. and this is up there as one of the most frivolous. what it is essentially asking is one separate sovereign to walk in to another sovereign's business and stop a state investigation. and that's just not how it's done. there are mechanisms within new york to challenge the attorney general's investigation. he has already used some of them. and this is just not going to do it. >> and he's going to florida. he can find a sympathetic ear. what is that evidence snf. >> i think he still doing publicity. he is still trying to use this to claim, look this is a political witchunt to a group of

people that might be more willing to hear that or more receptive to that message. then also, he's trying -- i think, you know, who knowshe? may have kind of manipulating his lawyers into doing something he thinks would work. he says, you know, my privacy has been interfered with by this investigation. and i have a right to privacy under florida law. therefore, you have to step in and protect me. maybe, you know, this is in his view something that he thinks that the court can do. but it's just not. >> pitty the lawyer that had to write this suit. it is -- it's a piece of work. it's a piece of work. thank you so much for your time. >> thank you. >> great to see you. >> up next, why democrats are not giving up on their chances of holding the house. patrick gaspar joins us here in just a moment. trick gaspar join just a moment.

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do rib this moment after the january 6 attack on the u.s. capitol getting on hands and knees to help clean up the seat of our government. andy kim was first elected to congress in 2018 when he narrowly defeated republican congressman tom mcarthur in a race so close to call it took eight days to get the final results. by 2022, it looked like he could

be in congress for a while. the district tilt moored democratic than it had before. in the final days of the campaign, congressman kim is one of many democrats who suddenly find themselves in a tight erase than they were expecting. kim is running against republican bob heely, a former punk rock star turned luxury yacht salesman. the cook political report just changed the rating for that race from likely democratic to leads democratic. and andy kim is not the only one. congressman katie porter made a name for herself taking on big bank ceos, she finds her snefl a toss quup race against a pro-life republican who told his california constituents he would have voted against codifying equality into law. a leading voice in the fight to defend democracy is in a toss quup race for her district in virginia against an election die

kneer who refuses to say if joe biden won the 2020 election. and then there is shawn patrick maloney, the head of the democratic party's campaign arm for house races. the guy who has access to all of the democratic party's fund-raising tools and voter data. earlier this year when a new york court threw out the state's congressional maps and threw them into chaos, he compelled the fellow the democratic congressman into retirement so that he could hold on to the upstate new york district. but now shawn patrick maloney is one of the many democrats whose race is considered a tossup. just last week the democratic party's campaign arm had to dumb $600,000 into that race just to try and keep it leader in congress. with just five days to go, there say lot of focus on senate and governor's races. but democrats are facing a very difficult election for the house of representatives f republicans prevail, the biden administration could spend the next two years mired in

congressional investigations and debt ceiling stand-offs with the parties whose radical base has taken the reigns. when we talk about losses, we're talking about losing naem do the very hard work in congress, whether it is cleaning up the capitol or fighting for democracy or taking on big corporations or coordinating campaigns across the country. that is what is at stake. joining us now is patrick gaspar, former dnc chair and now president for progress. >> so you -- you know how this goes, right? this is an election like no other. but what traditionally happens and what can happen to your mind in the next five days? >> you know, alex, i was there. i wasn't discouraged in the least. i had the privilege of being the white house political director in the 2010 midterm election when we received a shah lacking.

i will tell you, this -- at this point close tow election day, we're looking at all of the house races and swing districts and we were trailing significantly. you just laid out a number of swing districts where democrats are incredibly competitive. we always assume that understood that the margins were closed this close to the election day. some districts that donald trump did extremely well in, right? and yet we're competitive in some of the instances we're at 50 or close to 50%. >> you're a glass halfful person. >> i'm a -- we gave ourselves a fighting chance by doing the right thing over the course of the last year and a half, bypassing the inflation reduction act.

he with did it fighting big pharma and fighting the relief bill. and now all of the candidates, congressman kim, my friend shawn patrick maloney have to drive a very sharp contrast between the future that they offer versus what extremists are coming with their abortion bans, threats to social security and medicare that we held and heard articulated. and all of the other regressive measures that they're taking to roll back our democracy. that's a campaign i wish i had. >> how do you feel the urgency of that when there is not an election denier or they feel protective in terms of

reproductive freedoms. how do you compel them or con injure a sense of urgency? >> you always ask the best questions. >> sorry. >> that's okay. let's unpack some of this. on this notion that folks in blue states may not be feeling the impact of roe v. rollback, remember, we're seeing blue states being absolutely overwhelmed by women who are coming from deep red states and seeking reproductive health care options. that makes it much harder for women in blue states to receive the care they need. the second thing is that, you know, on this notion that maybe there aren't mag in as running everywhere, we're looking at the cook political report earlier today in all the top competitive seats, two third of them are being contested by republicans who deny the outcome of the election in 2020. there are 300 folks running now

for senate, governor, congressional seats, state legislative seats who deny that joe biden is president of the united states. so they are -- >> they're there. >> they're not hard to find. folks need to call them out and sound it out. i would also say, alex, you know, we don't have that many single issue voters in america anymore. abortion certainly important. we have seen in ruby red states like alaska following the dobbs ruling, we outperform the expectations in those states. i can imagine that's going to continue into next tuesday. but folks obviously care about the economy. they care about democracy in addition to abortion and democrats have to drive those hard contrasts in those spaces as well. >> part of the reason we want to show the faces of the people in the challenging races is to remind people of what republicans represent but also

what democrats represent in this very treacherous time. >> we'll see. >> those are candidates that will do a great job of taking back the narrative challenge and lay out the chance. >> patrick gaspar now president of the center for american progress. thank you for your time as always. we'll be right back. r your times always we'll be right back.

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away, ee lon mus is being set to begin mass layoffs at twitter tomorrow morning. they obtained a memo given to employees saying that twitter will be reducing the global washing force on friday and that this action is unfortunately necessary to ensure the company's success moving forward. bhoomberg reports that he plans to fire 50% of the company's staff beginning tomorrow. according to that twitter memo, they've been encouraged to check e-mails to see if they get jobs. those that keep jobs will be getting an e-mail to the work e-mail. those that will lose their jobs to their personal address. it's just days before a major election. that is something. that does it for us to night. we'll see you again tomorrow. "way too early" is coming up next. >> five days. five days to go. and it's the most important elections in our lifetime. and that's not high penitentiarybly, its goi