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divide from two american presidents on the campaign trail. >> so much is changing. so much. this is not a referendum, this is a choice. a choice. between two vastly different visions of america. >> this tuesday you must vote republican in a giant red wave. giant red wave. this hour i will be speaking to wisconsin democratic senate candidate mandella barnes on his chances of defeating incumbent republican senator ron johnson. and the head of the democrats senate campaign committee on the tough political climate for his party. in d.c.'s federal court today oath keepers founder stuart rhodes taking the stand today. north korea launching nearly 200 fighter jets prompting an immediate response from seoul. and we will have a live report on the breaking news from san francisco, massive layoffs at twitter. and new changes that could impact the platform leading up

to tuesday's elections. ♪♪ good day, everyone, i'm andrea mitchell in washington as the battle for control of the senate is up for grabs with an unprecedented number of contests within the margin of error with only four days to go democrats are nervous about holding on to their slim majority and republicans are even talking about expanding the battleground map and winning in some traditionally blue states. joining us now weekend "today" co-host peter alexander in bucks county, pennsylvania, and nbc's steve patterson in seattle. peter, john fetterman has all the star power rallying around him with biden, former barack obama heading this weekend. a surprise show of public support from oprah winfrey who was an original launch pad for his opponent celebrity tv doctor, dr. mehmet oz. >> reporter: andrea, you're

right, this is a surprise endorsement that we first heard about overnight. obviously oprah winfrey who has great sway over many voters around the country who watched her and listened to her every word for years trying to put that word and energy find john fetterman the democrat running for senate in this race. making the statement if she lived in pennsylvania she would have already voted fetterman. dr. oz got his start on the oprah winfrey show. he bonded by saying that he loves oprah, but respects that they have different politics. i wanted to pull back the curtain, we are in bucks county, a county among those collar counties around philadelphia that so often is crucial in determining which way this state will ultimately vote. they're getting some serious help obviously both sides the democrats and republicans in this state from those presidents

past and present. president biden and obama who will be rallying together in philly tomorrow, former president obama will be in the pittsburgh area alone at least he is scheduled to be tomorrow and then of course president trump the former president is going to be rallying for the gubernatorial candidate here, doug mastriano, as well as for dr. oz. his effort is to make sure that they can swell the numbers here. but i have to tell you as we've been driving through bucks county, 650,000 people strong we have been impressed by the numbers we have seen in terms of the yard signs for both parties at this point. speaking to individuals, some suburban moms we are in between a visit with one and on the way with another. we have heard them talking about this is the hot topic among the different parents in these communities with real concerns about inflation and about crime. and democracy, too, on the ballot. all of it key issues they are focused on in these closing days. >> and oprah could have a big impact on some suburban moms as well. beautiful bucks county,

pennsylvania. beater, thanks. thanks so much for hustling over there for us. and, steve, in washington state, five term senator patty murray a veteran of the senate could be in trouble, a major powerful chair of a committee on health with republicans spending heavily on ads and they think they have a shot at defeating her. what are you hearing when you spoke to senator murray and other voters? >> reporter: yeah, you know, andrea, what i think is so existentially fascinating about this race is that many of murray's own supporters not only feel like she has to battle this republican upstart challenger but she's also essentially boxing shadows she has to battle voter apathy and voter complacency and in many cases her own legacy, somebody that has been around for so long she's considered inevitable for so many voters in the state so the energy level of both campaigns, the level of desperation is vastly different. here you have smiley 41 years old, the same age that murray was when she first ran in 1992

as this, you know, sort of mom figure, the same styling as well coming in and really hammering her on some of those republican talking points and that's kind of the danger of murray who has spent so long keeping her nose to the grindstone, focusing on the work of policy making and law making that she is painted sort of as this establishment senator. so i spoke to the senator about this and she said, hold on, steve, wait a minute. there is certainly some concern, but there is not panic. when you realize what this very, very blue state what the voters care about here which is in a lot of cases climate change and access to health care and women's rights and what everybody told me which is that democracy itself is on the ballot, that she says she's going to do what she has so many times in her career, especially in areas like 2010 and 2014 which is be that inevitable candidate and the senator we've seen for so long. the spending is enormous here and to say there isn't a level of anxiety among democrats i

think is disingenuous and certainly is here. >> when patty murray first ran she was billing herself and did it successfully as the suburban mom in tennis shoes and that was the year of the woman supposedly in the senate. 1992. peter alexander, steve patterson two hot races. joining us here the other host, co-host of weekend "today" nbc chief white house correspondent kristen welker. thanks so much for being here. looking past the midterms there is the trump factor. we will see him in pennsylvania this weekend. he has been out very important races already and hinting everywhere he goes that he's going to announce and now you have new reporting on when that might be. >> that's right. two sources familiar with the former president's thinking say that it is likely he will make it official sometime this month. likely after the midterms, sometime before december. these sources also caution, though, nothing is finalized, so of course the timing could slip a bit. but i think you hit at the important point, andrea, which

is that we have seen former president trump out on the campaign trail and he's been crisscrossing the country and teasing a potential run and last night when he was in iowa campaigning for senator chuck grassley he really leaned into it, he said i ran twice, i won twice and did much better the second time. of course, the facts don't bear that out. he concluded by saying i will very, very, very, probably do it again. >> how many very's was that? >> that was three very's, but you have to count them. you're right, andrea, he all but said he was going to run overnight in iowa. now, in terms of the details, these sources say, look, nothing has been officially nailed down in terms of the timing, in terms of what an announcement would look like, but you can expect if and when he does announce there would be the typical rollout that you would expect to see. i remind everyone to go back to the trump administration, those four years when it was not uncommon for him to float a date or a policy or an idea as a trial balloon to get a sense of what the reaction would be like

and then to make a final decision based on that. one of these sources said, look, he is his own person, we have seen that over and over again so he will final decision. it will be a big political bombshell when it happens. >> thank you so much. i look forward to all of your reporting now and of course election night. and michigan democratic senator gary peters chairs the democratic senatorial campaign committee, talk about a man on the spot. it's great to see you. thank you very much. so let's start with the senate battleground map. is it realistic that you can run the table win all the close case gs, new hampshire, nevada, pennsylvania, wisconsin, georgia to hold on to the majority? >> yes, andrea, thank you for having me on with you here today. no, we are very optimistic we are going to be able to hold our majority, i still believe that we can pick up seats as well. basically this is playing out as we anticipated. if you would have asked me a year and a half ago where do you think we will be near election

day, i will tell you these will be all very close races, they are all going to be at the margin. they are going to be battles right up to the very end. as a result of that the dscc what we have been doing over the last year and a half has been investing substantially in our ground operation to get out the vote. in fact, it's the most significant investments of the dncc has ever made in field operations and i think we're seeing that here already. when it comes to early voting, we're seeing a record early voting or meeting the records they have in the past in all of our key states, people are showing up at the polls and we are confident that those are democrats but clearly this is a time where democrats have to know so much is at stake that it's important to get out the vote, it's exactly where we thought we would be and we're confident and i'm confident that we are going to still be in the majority come after the election. >> how tough a road is it in georgia with what we heard already on that hot mic incident

at the airport on the tarmac when senator schumer was saying that georgia was likely going down? >> no, i'm confident we'll win in georgia, certainly this is about candidate choice and i think you're seeing that across all of our races. there is such a clear contrast between our democratic incumbents and democratic challengers and republicans, georgia is a classic case. i don't think you can find a wide are gulf between the talent and parks of rafael warnock to fight for folks across georgia versus his opponent who is not ready for prime time, no the ready for anytime and we believe that the voters of georgia get that and we will win in georgia. i'm very confident we're going to win despite the fact it will be a close race. we know it will be a close race. all of these races are in battleground states by definition battleground states are close races. this should not be a surprise to anybody and now it's about getting out our voters and,

again, our field operations building on the incredible talents of our candidates we believe in the end will be successful for us. >> we have republican super pacs pouring $6 million in pennsylvania, money just being poured into new hampshire against maggie hassan on behalf of tom bolduc. they are really swamping you guys in money from these other super pacs. >> there is no question dark money, super pac money has always been out of the republican playbook. with he knew we would be outspent when a massive amount of money comes into races but ultimately what we have is democrats, is people power. folks on the ground, turning out voters. i believe that the messages that our candidates have been able to get out are very clear. this election is a choice. this is a clear contrast between quality strong democratic candidates and quite frankly incredibly damaged and inferior candidates on the republican

side and ultimately we will be successful as a result of that and i'm confident in the end as long as democratic voters are showing up like i believe they are and will continue to show up, we will be successful. but we have to run through this tape, it's not over until it's over. we are all hands on deck and we will do everything we can to run through the tape here in the remaining few days. >> senator gary peters, thank you so much for your time today. appreciate it. and breaking news just days after taking over twitter elon musk has begun massive job can you tell us including the team responsible for fighting disinformation. employees are learning about their fate via email to their personal accounts today and the firing have prompted a class action lawsuit for april ledgely failing to give them a 60 day warning. jake ward joins us from san francisco. half of twitter's workforce could potentially be let go. what does this mean for filtering out election misinformation next week?

>> reporter: andrea, no the only is this terrible news for the thousands of people who woke up this morning to find that they could not get into their email or perhaps received an email in their personal account letting them know that they had been fired, it is also terrible news according to the people we have been speaking to inside and outside twitter for people concerned about misinformation and disinformation going into the midterms. we know that some of the teams central to the company's efforts to try to get out in front of those problems have been let go. those are content moderators, researchers who look into the way the algorithm with move information and amplify misinformation. those teams are being badly hit at this hour. it's not at all clear how well twitter is going to be staffed for the midterm misinformation bonanza we are likely to see next week. in addition we also know that across the company it is really just extraordinarily difficult to understand just how deep this is going to go. we've spoken to several people who really just feel that this

place is really quite ricchetti at the moment because of all of this. of course, as you mentioned there is now a class action lawsuit having been filed last night in federal court trying to keep twitter from firing this many people without adequate notice in the united states, you need to give 60 days if you are a are company over 100 employees, the rules are more stringent across the country. we are definitely seeing a tremendous blood bath at twitter and this big lawsuit to follow as well. >> jake ward, thank you very much. this is obviously going to have a lot of blow back certainly out there in the twitter verse. and the founder of the oath keepers organization stewart rhodes has testified in his own defense in his seditious conspiracy trial in washington. the court is in recess for the day but rhodes is expected to be back on the stand monday. joining us is nbc justice reporter ryan riley and glenn kirschner who are both outside the courthouse and have been following this trial throughout.

ryan, first to you. have we heard so far -- what have we heard let's say from stewart rhodes? >> we only got 45 minutes of testimony it's essentially a lot of testimony from stewart rhodes talking about how great stuart rhodes is. he's been jovial on the stand, made a joke about how his full name is elmer stewart rhodes iii and he goes by stewart for obvious reasons he said. he basically talked about how the oath keepers was founded how it got started, talked about his time at law school, talked about his military background. made sure to point out that his father was half mexican and tried to basically combat any suggestions that the oath keepers are a racist organization and said that they don't like racist. essentially he's trying to i think get familiar with the jury and distance himself from a lot of the damning testimony that prosecutors have got.in this case thus far. key of which is the tape that

they got from stewart rhodes after the january 6 attack talking about how they should have brought rifles that day, how he wishes he could hang nancy pelosi from a lamp "post." so i think he's really going to make an effort to i guess undemonize himself with the jury here. it's going to be a tough battle and what will be the most interesting will be monday when federal prosecutors get their chance to put a lot of this to the test and cross-examine stewart rhodes on the stand. >> glen, rhodes talked about watching the 9/11 coverage when he was in law school, his motivation for starting the oath keepers and also george floyd's murder. explain what is he trying to do, humanize himself? >> he is. so the first hour of his testimony is sort of the honeymoon period with the jury. he's trying to establish a rapport and trying to tell the jury a little bit about who he is or who he sees himself to be.

i will say on the one handle mer stewart rhodes is coming across as a smart articulate person and witness but on the other hand he's also coming across as an arrogant self-important almost grandiose figure. it's remarkable because he's trying to give the jury a tutorial about how to police, how to conduct law enforcement operations, yet he's never been law enforcement. he also was saying that the oath keepers would go to protests and their presence would, quote, embarrass, his word, law enforcement that was working those sam protests because the oath keepers knew so much better and performed so much better, but i think the most remarkable bit of his testimony thus far was when his attorney asked him do you believe the vote was stolen, the election was stolen? he said i believe the election was invalid, unconstitutional, and he said even before we get

to fraud, what the state election officials and legislators were doing during covid, changing the rules and protocols, made the election in his opinion invalid and unconstitutional. that's foreshadowing for what we can expect to hear from elmer stewart rhodes beginning on monday about why he did what he did. >> and while i've got you there, glen, as a former prosecutor, the prosecution, the feds lost a big case today in new york and brooklyn which is tom barrett the president's close friend, former president trump's close friend, the head of his inaugural committee lost the case, he won an acquittal against the charges that he was acting as an unregistered agent for the united arab emirates. >> yeah, andrea. i was a fed for decades and we win some, we lose some. today the federal government

lost. i have had to stand on those courthouse steps and say after an acquittal we respect the jury's predict, we hoped for a different verdict. i certainly hope this doesn't cause the department of justice to shy away from bringing future challenging prosecutions against, you know, defendants and people of privilege, high government officials who have committed crimes and we believe there's enough evidence to bring them to trial. >> glenn kirschner and ryan riley, thanks to both. on alert kim jong-un taking tensions higher on the korean peninsula. the latest from seoul, south korea next. you're watching "andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc. g "andrea mitl reports" on msnbc. nina's got a lot of ideas for the future. and since anyone can create a free plan at fidelity, nina has a plan based on what matters most to her. and she can simply focus on right now. that's the planning effect. from fidelity.

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nbc's raf sanchez is in seoul. how did south korean leaders respond to this latest provocation from the north? >> reporter: so, andrea, both the military and the diplomatic response as you said the south koreans scrambling 80 of their own fighter jets this morning, those were including advanced f-35 stealth fighters. there are also around 100 american aircraft here taking part in those massive military drills. those "american pie" lots were put on alert, too. now, on the diplomatic front the security council will be meeting in new york today 3:00 p.m. eastern to discuss the crisis on the korean peninsula. there is not a lot of optimism about a diplomatic break through. as you know sanctions on south korea only work if there's coordination between the u.s. and russia and china and right now tensions between the big powers are so high over ukraine, over taiwan, that american

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a milwaukee elections official is out of a job after fraudulently requesting military absentee ballots and sending them to a republican lawmaker which is alleged. milwaukee's mayor says the fired official may have been trying to expose a potential election loophole. she is expected to face charges. nbc news has not confirmed the election worker's party affiliation but senator ron johnson locked in a close reelection fight is using it as an example of potential election fraud. >> do you commit to accepting the results of tuesday's election? >> i sure hope i can but i can't predict what the democrats might have planned. >> it depends on what you see? >> it has to. we will see how this plays out. i'm pretty shocked that a democrat election official was sending out military ballots fraudulently. that's a little shocking. >> here with us now senate

candidate and wisconsin lieutenant governor democrat mandella barnes running against the incumbent ron johnson. are you taking that to mean that senator johnson is seizing on this incident, this alleged incident, to say that he's not going to accept the results, the outcome? >> well, senator johnson has shown who he is time and time again. remember this is a person who tried to send fraudulent electors to the vice president in an attempt to overturn a free and fair election because he didn't get the result that he wanted. this is who he is. this is a person who is completely unfit for office. so of course he's going to waffle whether he is going to accept the election results. i have already committed to accepting the election results because i know that our election systems are secure. the system works. that's what we're showing up everywhere all over the place to turn out the vote, talking to people about the things that are important. the things that ron johnson is seemed to have forgotten about like rebuilding the middle class, providing people with

health care, making sure wisconsin is represented by someone not coming after social security and medicare. we need help to get it done in the final stretch. i'm encouraging folks to go to mandellabarnes.com to join us. >> this is a close race. do you have any internal polls given you any comfort that you can pull this out. >> this is wisconsin, our races are always close, the last few public polls showed this is a neck and neck race. at last three november elections were between 30,000 votes, three to four votes per ward. this is going to be won or lost at the grassroots level. i'm excited about the grassroots momentum we are seeing. 100 stops nf 15 days, showing up everywhere talking to everybody and we are building that energy and spokes are responding quite well. i'm excited to see the clouds

that continue to build because folks are ready for change and we are ready to stand along them to make it happen. >> how much of a problem is the headwinds the president's lack of popularity, he is under water, the party, people want change and you are the incumbent party so historically midterms are tough. >> this is about wisconsin it's not about anybody in washington and it's also not about, you know, party labels or affiliation or ideology. when i talk to people in wisconsin those conversations aren't always left or right, red or blue, it's about how we can come together and it's about the folks that ron johnson has kept at the top and everybody else he has left behind for 12 years. the reality is we are talking about a multimillionaire who was so out of touch with the people of wisconsin a person who is successful, multimillion dollar business has paid zero dollars in state income taxes since 2013. a person who has written the rules for himself, the rules that make the wealthy even more wealthy while leaving working class people behind.

his multimillion dollar real estate empire benefitted from the tax bill that he supported and that's how the deck continues to be stacked against working people. we need folks who will fight for working class people, fight for good paying jobs in a community, no at person who will fight for himself. mandelabarnes.com because we need your help to get this done. >> wisconsin lieutenant governor mandela barnes thanks very much. one of the most vulnerable democrats in the senate is in the political fight for her life. incumbent senator katherine cortez mastro defending her seat against adam laxalt. gas prices, unemployment in the state among the highest in the nation. joining me now is the other democratic senator from nevada, jacky rosen. senator, how stuff is it to win

reelection for a democrat in this economic environment in nevada? >> well, i think that first of all i want to say thank you for having me. we are currently in the last day of early vote. i want to get that out there right away. you can early vote today, through today register today and vote, you can mail in or drop off your ballot and we have same day registration, you can do that as well on tuesday. let me talk about the state of the race in nevada. people know senator cortez mastro, she was a two term attorney general, the state's top law enforcement office. she is a problem-solver but we are in a purple case so races are always tight here. we're a battleground state, we know what we have to do, we're turning out the vote, katherine is really known well around the state and i think that she's going to come out victorious. >> you've got of course the casino workers, you've got a

very large latino vote, harry reid is not there, sadly he's passed, but harry reid used to always pull democrats across the finish line in nevada. what do you see out there now in the early vote so far? >> well, i can tell you our culinary union has talked to us about knocking on about a million doors. we have strong coordinated campaign where we are all on the same page about electing and reelecting democrats up and down the ticket by katherine cortez masto and steve sisolak. the republicans have submitted a slate of election deniers, adam laxalt, the face of donald trump's big die lao i in nevada, submitting lawsuit after lawsuit to overturn the last election. he's already indicated that he's interested in particularly banning -- restricting a woman's right to choose in nevada which is against the will of nevada

voters. we have that in our state law. he said he wants to jail women possibly their physicians for seeking reproductive health care. so our slate -- our slate is a clear choice, we've delivered for people, we've worked to help families grow and thrive and the slate of extremists on the republican side they don't have a plan except to attack your voting rights, reproductive rights, we can go down the list. they even want to decertify the 2020 election. >> senator jacky rosen, thanks for being with us today. i appreciate it. >> thank you. and let's bring in republican strategist susan dell pezio and patrick gaspart. welcome all. cyrus, in terms of early voting the youth vote you study has

dropped dramatically so far in early voting from two years ago. according to "politico," their analysis. so far target smart says that the youth vote is in single digits in a number of states. what do you see the motivation -- what do you see in terms of your -- your surveys show that they have -- about 34% say they intend to vote. >> exactly. i would say two things that can be true at the same time, one, i think we're going to see record busting rates of young people out to vote on tuesday. the second thing i want to say i don't think we're going to see that many young people voting on tuesday compared to larger older age blocks and i think that that says something about the state of the youth vote. we're seeing incremental progress, we saw about 16% or so in 2014, 35% in 2018. we might see a record breaker in

this case, but we are still talking about way too few young people voting to be comfortable as a society, as a democracy. >> how do you get young people more interested in voting? is it the quality of the candidates, the issues, just not caring about it? >> yeah. the two things that i always like to say, one is you can't change the issues that young people care about. young people care about the issues that most other age brackets care about. you have to change the messaging, change the way that you're delivering that message not necessarily the concept but the packaging, that's one thing. and i will leave it there. >> susan, both parties want the youth vote, the democrats in particular really are hungry for youth vote to get some of these tight races across the finish line. how do they reach them? >> i think that he talked about something interesting in how you talk to them, what methods do you talk to them? you can't put in a television ad

that only runs on cable news, it's got to show up on their phones or their computers or otherwise the message is not reaching them because i do believe that messaging is important and the issues are shared issues, but i can also tell you as an operative if you are relying on the youth vote right now, you don't have much of a chance. you need to get everything else out there that has a proven record of showing up. >> what about tiktok, cyrus? is that one way to get to young people? >> that's an effective strategy. you have to go to where they are. they are on tiktok, absolutely, but don't get on tiktok and talk about issues that you assume young people are going to care about. don't talk about the rock and roll eight tracks, go talk about income inequality, talk about inflation and crime, just do it in a place that they are going to listen to you. >> susan, what about the democrats and, you know, the -- susan, i just want to ask you also about the democrats before i bring in patrick.

what do you see as a republican operative in terms of what democrats, you know, are failing to do so far? >> i think that they are failing to speak with any demographic, whether it's the youth vote or anywhere along the line. instead they are talking at them. instead of trying to be relatable they're telling people what they need -- they think they need to know, but do you know what people know what their dollar is not going as far as it used to. people know that when they go to the gas pump they're paying for. people know that they don't feel safe. don't tell them they shouldn't feel safe because of crime statistics. if they don't feel safe going on the subway, for example. so i think democrats have a much more important job to speak with people than at them. >> so, patrick, what now do the democrats have to do? you have four days left. arguably, you know, some people say that the abortion issue, the dobbs issue, was so energizing

but it was back in june and july and that, you know, democrats spent a lot of monetizing on it and messaging on it, but didn't catch up to what was happening in the economy as gas prices went back up. >> thank you for having me on, andrea. thank you for that fantastic question. i know that june and july may seem like eons in the media ecosystem we are in right now but for average folk it was just yesterday and they are still feeling the impact of the dobbs decision in their lives, particularly in districts that are being overwhelmed by women who have to come from some of these ruby red deep districts in order to get reproductive services. i want to say that there. cyrus and susan said a lot of really important things about youth turnout but i will remind all of us that we're seeing historic -- already historic levels of early participation in early vote, close to 30 million americans having participated already, there is a lot of interest, a lot of energy in this campaign and as a consequence we are seeing

democrats running dead even in key senate states and doing better than expected in governorships and are at highly competitive in congressional races as well. so right now democrats have to continue to drive a hard contrast between what they've achieved, what republicans have said they're going to do in the next congress and what democrats intend to do to keep pushing prices down to address the crime issue, they have to remind americans that eight of the ten states with the highest murder rates are led by republican governors and most is driven by gun, crime and the kind of legislation that republicans are blocking. they have to remind them we are at the lowest unemployment we have had in 50 years and that's mostly as a consequence of the legislation passed by biden, pelosi, schumer and democrats and that republicans have already said they intend to go right at social security and medicare should they be in the majority. elections are about choices, contrast, democrats have a chance to make that case in the closing days.

>> patrick, thank you so much and susan and cyrus, thanks to both of you. and soon free lunches could be provided for all students in colorado not just for those in need. that is if voters approve a measure on the state ballot tuesday. but like all things someone is going to have to pay. the question now is who is going to pay. the state is requesting the wealthiest residents in colorado to foot the bill. dana griffin has more from colorado. >> today we are going out and stalking neighbors. >> reporter: in jefferson county, colorado this is the sound of persistence. >> it would be free food forever. >> reporter: supporters of proposition ff want to make it universal. they got a trial run during the pandemic when waivers get districts feed every kid for tree. some districts served thousands of meals per day proof that

pre-pandemic nutrition programs and the ones in place now leave too many empty stomachs. >> kids need food to learn. >> reporter: to pay for it colorado would cap tax deductions on high earners, anyone making more than $300,000 would see their tax bill rise on average more than $800. currently a family of four making less than $51,000 a year is eligible for free or reduced lunch but supporters say 60,000 colorado kids above the income threshold cannot afford lunch. sara and her husband michael have two boys, the couples income is just above the cutoff. >> it's a frustrating thing when you look at the fact that i have trouble paying our bills every month and to say that we make too much money. >> reporter: educators say some who receive free or reduced meals try to avoid the stigma of being the poor kid by just not eating. >> i still remember the shame

that i felt every time i got my lunch. >> reporter: teachers say hungry kids tend to focus less and have more behavior issues but in a state with more than 3.7 million taxpayers should just more than 100,000 of them food this bill. >> it sounds warm and fuzzy but it's a terrible bill. >> reporter: john recommends a no vote. >> what we are doing is we are taxing the top 5% to buy launches for all the upper middle class and wealthy kids beyond the poor kids. it's a very perverse system. >> reporter: some critics suggest the state should expand eligibility for free and reduced lunch by 5 to 10% feeding a need without taxing just top earners. and that was nbc's dana griffin reporting. nationally polls find somewhere between half and three quarters of americans support the idea of free school meals.

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high priority call, they did not know they had been called to an emergency at the speaker's house. joining me now is former fbi assistant director for counterintelligence frank igluzi and ashley parker "washington post" national senior political correspondent. frank, let's begin with you. i've been thinking about this for a couple of days now. how did police not know it was the speaker's house? you have one person in that area, one person is second in line to the presidency. wouldn't somehow at police headquarters it be flagged that you have a protect tee of that importance in your district? >> andrea, you and i are asking the same question as are a lot of law enforcement professionals across washington that i talked to. the more that professionals acrs washington. the more that we learn about this, the more confounding it becomes. why wasn't an alarm activated and automatically triggered for a police response? why is it that in washington, d.c., someone ending their shift had to go back and check what had happened with camera activity and then only then see

police lights at the house? why is it that there was no marked police presence at the person's home who is, as you said, the second in line to the president. and now we're learning that there's no flag on that address so that a dispatcher would automatically know it is a prioritized address. that's on capitol police, by the way, for not ensuring that that happened. if it's not in place for the speaker, it clearly won't be in place for other high-ranking lawmakers. so we need a complete understanding of what happened and we need a revamping of how we protect our lawmakers. we need it fast. we're in a very heightened threat environment. >> and, ashley, she, in fact, nancy pelosi, is the most threatened figure in congress of all the people. she's been demonized in every campaign for years and especially in this campaign, in campaign ads by republicans. congresswoman zoe lofgren is

demanding answers just on how members are protected, all members outside of d.c. is there enough protection for the speaker and for the other members, for senators? >> well, this is an issue that the capitol police and lawmakers are grappling with right now. you'll recall after the january 6th attack, there were already significant concerns raised about the capitol police, their preparation, their response, as well as that from other law enforcement agencies. and what you learn as we learn more details on the attack on paul pelosi is just how many threats, the number of threats have increased so significantly since 2016 which is against members of congress, which is, of course, when former president trump began running for office. and so what might have been acceptable at one point in a different less politicized era, now when you have, you know, ten times the number of threats, the

number of cameras the capitol police have, the ability they have to watch house and is family members far away, the levels of security required for high-profile members of congress has just increased exponentially and they are now grappling with how to handle this new, far more heightened threat environment. >> i also want to ask both of you about cash patel. according to "the washington post" reporting, this former white house -- white house deputy, patel was in front of the grand jury under use immunity. your paper has a lot of details about what happened. take us through it. >> sure, what's fascinating is that cash patel, as you said, is a true trump loyalist who has been involved in pushing a lot of the former president's conspiracy theories and doing a lot of his bidding. when he appeared before the grand jury, he originally -- the first time he tried to claim the fifth, even though the justice

department made clear he personally wasn't under investigation. now they have given him limited immunity which means he won't be prosecuted for anything he says in front of the grand jury unless, of course, he lies. what's interesting, unlike a number of other trump people who have flipped, there's not an expectation that anything that patel said on thursday would necessarily harm the former president. but the justice department wants to know exactly what patel knows because he's one of the people who has claimed publicly that former president trump declassified documents before bringing them to mar-a-lago. so they sort of need to understand what he knows, how valid it is, so they can put together the case that they may be bringing against trump. >> and frank figliuzzi, patel was in the intelligence agencies towards the latter part of the trump white house and then finally at the pentagon. and now was -- once the former president left was the liaison

to the national archives for what was going to be turned over. he had many key roles. >> he can tell us a lot. he can tell prosecutors a lot. and i think most specifically this use of -- what's called limited use immunity that's been granted which is never taken lightly, tells us that doj is dead serious about getting anything they can about what now appears to their target, the former president of the united states, and specifically the charge of obstruction would come into play here. as ashley referred to, patel has been saying, hey, i watched him declassify these. if there's absolutely no evidence of that, no process, no nothing and it was fabricated and he tells prosecutors we made that up, or even trump told me to make up this declassification story, you have a dead-on obstruction charge against the former president. >> and, frank, when we also see some of these cases are really hard to establish, they -- we

were talking earlier with kristen welker that the president -- former president may be announcing that he's going to run again. what is the impact on the doj of any kind of prosecution if he's -- if he declares his candidacy, so he's not the president, but he's a candidate for '24? >> yeah, i mean, we do have some helpful comments from ag merrick garland on this, even during his interview with lester holt on nbc and that is, this is an attorney general who is going to be led by the facts of the law. he's not going to be swayed by politics, and i do not think it's going to technically impact the investigation. the reality is in this radicalized, divisive environment we're in, the public is going to be split on this if he names himself as a candidate and the indictment is coming. >> frank figliuzzi, ashley parker, thanks to both of you. and that does it for this edition of "andrea mitchell

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