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campaign trail where president biden is right now, can you can the live shot on the left of the screen and it is where he's going next tells aus little, tells us a little bit about how democrats are feeling about the election. and more on the january 6th committee, with secret service agents and those in the trump motorcade on january 6th. former president trump today ignored the subpoena to hand over documents to lawmakers. we'll take you live to the hill with what the committee plans to do next. we're back on wall street watch this friday. kind of a mixed bag for stocks right now, at least it is all green, right? but a lot of folks are watching to see if that is going to turn red in the final hour of trading, with concerns over higher interest rates, overshadowing a better than expected jobs report. i'm hallie jackson in washington. it is a busy friday. live with our reporters across the country all throughout the
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our for the next 60 minutes. we start with vaughn hillyard, and shaquille brewster and kelly o'donnell will join us from the white house. and vaughn, let me start you with. where election deniers are one, two, three on the republican ticket there for governor, secretary of state, attorney general candidates, he was riding along with a couple of them, include can the senator, the candidate running for senator, and down at the border trying to set up campaigns on the border and i'm interested in what you heard from one voter and encapsulate some of the discussion we're about to have. let me play it. >> it is troubling. i'm not saying it wasn't. even when i saw the process, i'm going to say it wasn't in my top two. i have to prioritize, and to me, the economy and the border, that's what i'm voting on. >> she was talking about election denials and not in the top two. talk about the picture here on the campaign trail today, vaughn. >> reporter: right, the democrats really need a good swath of those voters who showed a willingness in the past to
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vote for kyrsten sinema and mark kelly and joe biden and here is the quartet of candidates, kari lake, blake masters finchem and holiday for attorney general. they're traveling as a quartet, around the state of arizona and that's why they are here in arizona, cochise county with the sheriff's office and addressing reporters here along the border. this is a situation in which kari lake especially has really tried to bring this to the forefront of her own candidacy, and essentially proposing what would be a mirror of what governor abbott in texas did. and that would be allowing local law enforcement as well as state law enforcement to help federal law enforcement in not only arresting the undocumented immigrants but then going as far as deporting them. of course, there is a lot of constitutional questions at hand here. the texas operation lone star, it is currently going through that process, but i want to let you hear from kari lake herself as she is making this case to again a state la is a traditionally conservative one
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that does often have immigration top of mind. take a listen. i don't think we have that sound here. i know we'll have it here this afternoon. but i think this is the situation when you're looking here at these candidates. they are seeing and polling number one economy and immigration, taking center stage for a great number of voters here, and they're looking to work off of it, hallie. >> vaughn hillyard in sierra vista, arizona. thank you. kelly o'donnell is with us i believe right now, from the white house north lawn. because the president is set to speak any minute. he is actually out west, in san diego, with a speech that the white house thinks makes sense in this bigger final closing argument, if you will, for president biden, for democrats, as we're taking a live look at the lectern now. >> reporter: good to be with you, hallie. part of what the white house has been trying to do is to weave together candidates, districts, areas of the country, where they think some of the policies they have been able to enact or
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promote have value and resonance. and they are looking in some ways for a local strategy, where local papers, local communities, get a big buzz for the president being in town, being seen with candidates and officeholders, and we think of california, of course, as a blue democrat state, and at a time when it wouldn't be the most obvious midterm choices but if you drill down and you look at a specific competitive race, then you can have a different circumstance. so the president has been using these appearances to talk about policies, and to try to again shift this from what is the norm of midterms, which is a referendum on the party in power, and to make it a choice election, to say these are the accomplishments, and that is the referendum piece, but not just that, look at what was the republican party, if it takes control of the house, of the senate, and in key gubernatorial
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state houses and so forth, how would things change and that's part of the theory here and how president biden has used his time as a midterm campaigner, and of course, there's some geography involved, trying to cover lots of hearts around the country, parts of the country, today, california, and today, it is about trying to make that message, it is a closing message, which we have seen that has been a part of a composite, some of it has been the democracy message, some of it has been health care and abortion rights, some of it has been in the economy piece where we're talking about how to battle inflation, how to talk about jobs, and the jobs picture has been one thing that the biden white house has been really stoking as a part of how they have been able to be stewards of the economy. they acknowledge readily prices are high, people are feeling that pain, but they're trying to find other ways to talk about the economy, and highlight things that they think could carry over with some voters. so it's not the biggest splashiest method of
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campaigning, it's more targeted, officials say, and a way for the president to be seen, maybe not so much in the kinds of conversations we have here, but to be seen on the local paper, the local news, and that that carries some real wait, they believe, as voters are making their final decisions. >> kelly o'donnell, thank you. shaq, let me go to you in wisconsin there. yes, the economy is a big issue for voters where you are. yes, we know crime in particular is a big issue that has been become one in that, specifically in that race, not just for governor but for senator, too. but election integrity as well. and republican candidate and senator ron johnson answered a question that we talked about earlier this week, and i think it was here on the show about whether he would be committed to accepting the election results on tuesday, i think it was fair to say noncommittal when you put it to him and talk about how this is an issue in the race you're covering. >> reporter: he said it depends, essentially. he pointed to what we talked about yesterday, in terms of that report out of milwaukee, where the deputy director of the
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elections was fired for fraudulently requesting military ballots in order to essentially make a point. she by the way has since been charged in the wisconsin election commission, it says it will have no impact on the count of votes on november 8th but he pointed to a lawsuit here in green bay, filed by the republican party, involving election observers and their ability to see the certification process of absentee ballots, and used those examples to say i don't know how democrats might try to cheat in this election. he said he didn't have any other evidence despite what those few headlines that we're talking about about but he put questions on the validity of the election result and governor tony evers, one of the final closing ads of had his campaign just came out, attacking tim michels, that is something i asked tim about and i want to show you the ad from the governor and michels's
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response to that add. >> did you know tim michels pledged to rig future elections. >> republicans will never lose another election in wisconsin after i'm elected governor. >> here's the clarity on those comments. once the people of wisconsin see what happens when we lower their taxes, when we lower crime in wisconsin, when we reform education, and we have better schools, and we have a governor and a republican party that's going to stand up for working families, we are going to never look back. >> reporter: hallie, you mentioned it, yes, there are so many issues in this election that are on the minds of voters. i spoke to two voters going in to the early voting location that mentioned abortion is top of mind and they normally don't vote in midterm elections but that's one reason they came and showed up and voted early in this election, but you also see, between the candidates, and the rhetoric between the candidates, in these closing days of the election, that democracy piece, and the sanctity of our election, that is also something
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that you have a dispute on between the republican candidates and the democrat can candidates in this election. >> shaq brewster live for us in wisconsin, thank you. i know we will talk again this weekend and monday, too. coming up, here on the show, our team is just learn can that the former president may be set to announce a re-election campaign, perhaps this month. just a couple of weeks away. we'll talk about how it could shake up this year's elections. plus, house speaker nancy pelosi breaking her silence this afternoon for the first time her husband was attacked in their home. we will bring what she is saying ahead. plus, deadline day for the former president and the january 6th committee saying it is time to land over key documents. in 60 seconds, we'll have, that plus brand new reporting on the secret service, coming up. secre. in the dryer and find a wrinkled mess? try downy wrinkle guard fabric softener! wrinkle guard penetrates deep into fibers, leaving clothes so soft, wrinkles don't want to stick around. make mornings smoother with downy wrinkle guard fabric softener. this week is your chance to try any subway footlong for free. like the subway series menu.
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cassidy muchenson refused to take former president trump to the capitol during the in insurrection. he has blown past the deadline for call logs and text messages and handwritten note, showing what mr. trump was doing before and after and during the capitol attack. senior capitol hill correspondent garrett haake is here with more. talk to us about the secret service interviews because this has been kind of an open question for the last couple of month. >> reporter: this has been dragged into the spot light in the june 27th hearing with cassidy hutchinson when she talked about the efforts by then president trump to go to the capitol on january 6th. the secret service agents and most cases anonymously pushed back against her telling, that set off this back and forth between the committee and the secret service. they wanted to get more documents from the secret service. they wanted to get testimony. some cases, testimony for a second time from agents who might have been there or been involved on that day. they got thousands of pages of documents and a review that they
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just completed and a source had told me a couple of days ago that they were probably going to talk to anywhere from ten to a dozen secret service agents over a span of two weeks. they are in that process now, as we speak, and one of the last purely investigative elements of the committee's work. now on the subpoena front, this is something that obviously got started very late in the game from the committee's perspective, this subpoena to trump. >> and to give you a second here, because i think it's important to lay out the context, right? it is not shocking that donald trump is not complying with the congressional subpoena, but to think about this sentence, right a former president refuses to comply with subpoena from congress. that that is even a sentence that is said, right, like it tells you i think where we are in this political moment, no? >> i agree with that, although again with this particular former president, it should surprise none of our viewers. that said, compliance with these subpoenas has been pretty spotty throughout. and i'm not just talking about the people who ra are you know
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charged with contempt or combative with the committee. there were a lot of missed deadlines and we heard from liz cheney this week, the committee is in some way in discussions with the former president, there is a lot of room for different realities in that word discussions here, and so whether that means discussions that some stuff might still get turned over or a long distance stiff arm from trump to the committee, that's not entirely clear. but in a way, that complicates their efforts to do something like try to hold him in context, as we saw in the case of basically everyone not named steve bannon. some compliance with the committee, some level of discussions has been usually in the case to hold off criminal charges, which is kind of the only tool left in the committee's tool box if they even have time to dig it out before they effectively turn into a pumpkin with the start of the new congress. >> garrett haake, covering congress, thank you. sources are telling our nbc
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news team that president trump may make it official this month that he is running for president come 2024. apparently looking at an announcement just about a week or so after the midterms, and now, let's, can we be real here, folks? let's be real with a big grain of salt because we've seen sources say the date could certainly slide. we have seen this happen before. and we've seen the former president change his mind on stuff. so like let's just be honest. nothing is official, until it is official. right? but the new reporting does come, not long after mr. trump said this to a crowd in iowa, by the way, iowa, a 2024 state. listen. >> now, in order to make our country successful, and safe and glorious, i will very, very, very probably do it again. okay? very, very, very probably. >> to bring in kristen welker who has made her way from the post at the white house to our set here. very, very, very, probably. >> that is three, by the way,
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three. >> six if you count the second set. >> good point. >> and he says probably and i know we said a grain of salt in the interim, but i think it is so important, and what you have been hearing from your sources, key, he could make this announcement before thanksgiving and maybe not. >> and i go back to the four years we covered president trump and every single reporting note out was caveated with however, this is not the case until it happens and that is the case with the announcement like this and all of the caveats you laid out at the top are really important. >> what gives your sources confidence that he may do this before thanksgiving. >> he has been increasingly teasing it, leaning into it verbally and some of these people say he is already all but announced it. a senator is saying he's ready to go. and this is close. and increasingly hearing people around him say on the record, it's close. it's coming soon. however, i think there's another big caveat we have to say and that's where you started this
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show, right, on tuesday, i think he's going to assess what happens on tuesday, and all signs are pointing to the fact that republicans have a lot of momentum, heading to the midterms, but he's got to assess how does this actually go on tuesday? do the candidates that he endorsed, that he's backed, how do they do? is this a red wave? and if it is, is he emboldened by that? and do he then think that this is the right timing? or does he want to drag it out and build up the momentum a little bit more? so i think what i would say, hallie is, that there are a number of people around him who are increasingly discussing that this is the time it is going to happen, i think if and when he does do it, you will see the typical rollout that you would expect, some trips to follow, but again, while this is the thinking of those in the inner circle, that they're very close to an announcement, as you know better than anyone, he makes the final decision and in some sense this is kind of a trial balloon. >> and i was going to say this is a trial balloon floated right before the midterms and there is some real concern on the part of people, hey, don't do anything before the midterms, because
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that could make this, this cycle of referendum on him and not joe biden as republicans want it to be. and the timing here, is he really going to box out anybody else in the field? because i think mike pence feels like he is full steam ahead. and ron desantis, feels like he is full steam ahead. knowing full well, for months that donald trump could still jump into the race. >> absolutely. and i don't think he will box those two potential candidates out particularly mike pence, based on the reporting. >> he may be dropping his book very soon. it just so happens. how coincidental. >> mid november. interesting. >> are there any coincidences in politics? i'm not sure. but i think that is nonsignificant. and i think your point of who is considering this, ron desantis, who by the way if you look at the polling could be a real contender. and let's not forget liz cheney. you've done a ton of reporting about liz cheney and the fact that she could potentially shake things up, too. >> of course, if she does,
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regardless of what happens. >> thank you. >> appreciate it. >> i'll see you monday and tuesday. >> thanks. we're hearing today too from members of the house, including house speaker mansy pelosi, she is now breaking her silence for the first time since the attack against her husband, paul pelosi. our friends at punch bowl news reporting this afternoon that the speaker spoke virtually to supporters and you can see the quote on her screen, that paul's recovery will be a long haul but he will be well and it is so tragic how it happened and nonetheless, we have to be optimistic. he is surrounded by family. that's a wonderful thing. turning her attention to the election, now just four days away, nbc news senior congressional reporter scott wang is live on the hill. what else are we hearing from the speaker, scott? >> reporter: hallie, the speaker of the house is still remaining optimistic, while acknowledging this is an extremely tough terrain that democrats are facing. she is not throwing in the towel.
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as you know, democrats are defending seats in some really blue areas, i mean they're spending money in places like the district in ventura county on the california coast. they're defending their own d-ccc chair who is supposed to defend the majority himself, sean patrick maloney in the hudson valley. seats in connecticut, rhode island, a lot of blue areas. nancy pelosi said on this virtual call with supporters, the republicans have put in tons of money against our candidates, and cut our leads in some cases, but they have not taken this, these are races in many cases too close to call, in the margin of error, but in every case, win wabl because of the grass roots. and that is what we are doing, it is not only going to win an election, but to strengthen our democracy. a couple other points that nancy pelosi pointed to. she said echoing joe biden's speech on democracy, earlier this week, she said democracy is on the ballot, a couple of other
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things she mentioned, she said that the planet, climate change, is on the ballot, as well as a woman's right to choose. so nancy pelosi, very clearly laying out the stakes and the implications of this election on tuesday. hallie? >> scott wong, live on the hill, thank you. coming up on the show, a better than expected jobs report. and the last one, right? right before election day. we will check on the state of our economy and the market reaction here in just about 40 minutes before the closing bell in just a second. ♪ ♪ well would you look at that? ♪ ♪ jerry, you've got to see this. seen it. trust me, after 15 walks it gets a little old. i really should be retired by now.
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taking a quick live look at the markets, 35 minutes to the end of the trading day and the end of the trading week, green, green, green, that's not so bad ahead of the closing bell. the reaction to the final jobs report, we're going to see before election day. the new data is coming in better than exists had predicted. with 261,000 jobs added last month, unemployment ticking up to 3.7%, and nbc's brian cheung is at the big board to break it all down. talk through some of these numbers, break it down, do your best kornacki impression for us. >> i'm not wearing my khakis right now but as your data reporter, there are a lot of numbers but we need context behind those numbers, so as you mentioned 261,000, that's the number of jobs added in the month of october. compare that to the 315,000 that were added in september. that was a revised number that we got updated this morning by the way. so a bit of a step-down, but the important number i want to show you here, 3.7%.
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i will draw that right here, that was the unemployment rate which ticked up between september and october, 3.5% in september, not great. and overall, jobs are getting added. where? leisure and hospitality. think bars, restaurants, adding 35,000 jobs. but also take a look at this. very interesting. health care up about 53,000 in the month of october. keep in mind a lot of nurses called it quits during and after the pandemic. it is maybe possible they are seeing some of that come back in the health care sector. but again, it looks like the job market is looking okay but it is inflation that americans are worried about, headed to the polls and we get a little bit of inflation-related information from the jobs report. what you're looking at here is average hourly earnings, the percent change in what americans are making from a year ago, and it paced at 5%, and notched down to 4.7%. so relatively high average hourly earnings but again, if your wages are going up by 5%, and you have 8% inflation, still
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not a great story. which is the reason why inflation is the big issue for americans headed to the polls next week. >> sure is. brian, on the big board, good to see you. thank you very much. speaking of inflation, speaking of this jobs report, we know it comes on the heels of the fed raising interest rates for the sixth time this year, to try to bring down inflation, right? this is what the fed is hoping to do. brian basically teed us for this discussion. because he's right. inflation is a big deal for voters. we know that. cost of living and the economy, when you put them together in the nbc news polling particular is the number one issue for people head can out to the ballot box, right? people who know that are people who are running for congress, like the next guest here, republican paul degroot, running to represent new jersey's 11th district in congress. thanks for joining us on the show. >> thank you. >> let's start there on the economy then, a big issue as we said, for voters, we know that, you know that, voters know that, right? you've seen today's job report. what is it, if you had to make it into congress, what do you think congress should be doing next term to curtail inflation that they haven't already done.
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>> let's start off with we got to start with looking at unleashing -- >> natural gas and oil -- that's number one. leases. start pumping natural gas. we have --. second thing, let's cut ridiculous spending. [ technical difficulties ]. >> along with the covid slush fund. these are excellent ideas -- >> mr. degroot, i heard you describe what you see as your excellent ideas, unfortunately we could barely hear you and i'm sorry, we are having some
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break, we talked about the economy being the big issue for issues -- you have lost me. devastating for live television. have we good? >> it's out of sync. >> let me power through and see if we can get there, because we're just, you know, this is it, man, you know, 3:34, we're doing it on tv, everybody is watching it. we know abortion access is a big issue based on the nbc news polling and this is coming up i know repeatedly with your debate with your opponent mikie sherril which we spoke with 24 hours ago on this slow, the she highlighted the point that you made, that you call yourself pro-choice and you say that you support the overturning of roe, i want to play with you what congresswoman sherrill had to say to us yesterday. >> it is no a pro choice stance, and that is why it is really
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important that we take this out of legislatures and put it in the hands of women. that, you know, i said to my opponent, this, i don't believe this is a state's rights issue, i believe this is a woman's rights issue. >> so i'll put the question to you, mr. degroot, how is it that you can say you're pro choice and also support the overturning of roe. >> first of all, since we had a technical difficulty -- this district is suffering from tremendous inflation, seniors cannot afford -- prices are through the roof, gasoline prices, this biden administration, that's causing a lot of pain. so less be clear that we have to be energy independent and we got to get the prices down and cut washington spending and congresswoman sherrill said as early as last week, and i know it has been a year, and thanks
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mikey sheryl. i've always been pro choice, and pro choice, where i am in the race, you know, with choice, discontinued mikie sherril has absolute lies about this and i see right through it. i'm challenging about lying about my position. i'm pro choice. and it doesn't take anything away from -- [ technical difficulties ]. >> i never said that. mikie sherril is lying on that as well. you can't trust this politician. tremendous effort spending about $11 million of her money and tax money to defeat a first time candidate. i was a 25-year career prosecutor. the first time i'm running for a race and she's swinging hard. i did the real work as a prosecutor. mikie sherrill, i can take --
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>> to be clear, i mean it is, you've acknowledged as you describe yourself pro choice, you still support, again, i don't know if that was specific to the question on how you can describe yourself as pro choice, and yet support the elimination of abortion access as it existed in this plan under roe before the supreme court overturned it. >> well, it is the dobbs decision. mikie sherrill, i know she wasn't in the courtroom. >> i'm talking about you, to be respectful, i'm trying to be clear on your position. >> i've been pro choice my entire life. look, i have a beautiful daughter, i don't want to take that right away from her. why is mikie sherrill lying? that is the big question. new jersey has from beginning to end -- i am for women's rights. [ technical difficulties ].
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>> i am for women's rights. very firm on that. mikie sherrill has been -- >> new jersey congressional candidate paul degroot, thank you for being on the show. i know the tech gremlins snuck back in and i appreciate your time this afternoon and the patience of our viewers as well. appreciate it. and to pennsylvania where senate candidate mehmet oz is throwing off an endorsement snub as oprah threw her support behind fetterman. the oz campaign says he respects the fact that they have different politics. >> washington senator patty murray facing some surprisingly tough opposition this year. five times she served. ahead in the polls. that has dwindled a little bit recently against the republican challenger tiffany smiler. and in north carolina, ted budd is on the campaign trail as
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we speak this hour, getting some help from republican senators. nbc's steve patterson is joining us now from washington state and antonia himmen in north carolina. we'll start with you. a bit of a sleeper race a bit of a sleeper surprise given how usually blue washington is. >> it is still rebliely ocean blue, just as blue as you remember, but i think it is a different shade of blue at this point. there is sort of that national wave, the challenger to senator murray's riding that wave, but this state has not sent a republican senator to the senate in 20 years, and patty murray has been here for 30 years. and so i think there is some worry about complacency from democrats, specifically talking to voters that love patty murray, that support her, and i spoke to a lot of them yesterday they are worried about the fact that she is so almost inevitable in this state, that she's been around for so long, that there isn't sort of that energy that we feel around the smiley campaign. smiley 41 years old, the same age as murray when she ran back
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in 1992, is targeting those undecided voters in suburban areas. that is going to be the key difference in this race and she's speaking to them. she is also hitting murray on a lot of the conservative talking points. talking about her as a washington insider, which she is, she has been there for so long, and she's gotten a lot of work done, but a lot of people feel like that may work against her in this race. so i spoke to the senator about that. i asked her, is she worried about the sort of different energy levels of the different campaigns. here's what she told me. >> i listen to people. i come in and i talk to folks and hear what they're talking to me about and i go fight for them. i have my tennis shoes on. i'm fighting. and i always will. because i am energetic and responsive and i believe that our voters want somebody who will be their voice and carry our values to the washington, d.c. that's something i do every day. >> reporter: senator murray always has her tennis shoes on.
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and she told me, as did certain names out here in the state, that when you look at the issues that washington state really cares about, you know, a lot of them are democratic, a lot of them, it's health care, it's climate crisis, and it is of course women's rights, and she has really stood up for those issues, on top of the fact that everybody i spoke to, it seems to think, that democracy itself is on the ballot and the senator seems to think that those issues combined with her talking points, combined with the fact that she's been here so long, is going to carry her through. but it is tight. and there's so much money in this race now, maybe one of the most expensive senate races in washington state history. so you can bet the democrats are taking it seriously. >> steve, thanks. antonia, let me go to you on the opposite side of the country, on the other coast with stops from both candidates in the north carolina senate race today. tell us more. >> reporter: well, hallie, both candidates have spent in the mostly rural counties, counties that are mostly for trump and
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for beasley, having a tough conversation with her, and crowds here, they weren't necessarily on her side, but her whole ground game right now is to be in all 100 counties and to try to -- [ technical difficulties ]. >> i'm sorry. i'm so sorry to interrupt you. we also cannot hear you. we are clearly having tech meltdowns. we will work on that. i'm really sorry. sometimes it happens. it is just happening here and it really is not ideal. however, we will work to get antonia back and we thank steve paterson for his crystal clear live shot out there in washington state. let's talk about tiktok, because that is a place you can go to learn about events, and toss a trick shot and get a recipe for something trending on food and also a place for politics, right? it might not be the first reason that people get on tiktok, but it certainly where a lot of people are getting their news,
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particularly people under the age of 30. we took a look at how this midterm cycle maybe tiktok's highest profile election yet. watch. >> one of the world's most popular apps, not just a place for viral dances or trick shots. >> no way. >> these days one in four people under of age of 30 get their news on tiktok making these midterms tiktok's highest profile election yet. unlike facebook or instagram, candidates cannot post ads or fundraise off the platform but they can still show up and a lot of them are. like wade harry, a democratic congressional hopeful in georgia. at the age of 63, maybe an unlikely tiktok celebrity. >> do you get recognized by people just on the streets? >> i do get recognized. i've had moms tell me my 20-year-old child showed me your tiktok, and now i know who you
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are. >> this fellow is being called the chillest dude in america. this video got harry more than a million views. and the attention of college students, he says, who showed up to knock on doors for him. but tiktok fame can cut both ways. >> grocery shopping. >> and look at republican mehmet oz mocked for the infamous crudite video in pennsylvania. and looking out of touch, given the concerns about the platform ownership by a chinese company byte dance. and a trump nominated fcc commissioner this week calling for a ban on tiktok in the u.s. and gop senator marco rubio making it a campaign issue in his race in florida. >> and this suggests that china is also snooping on tiktok users. >> new research shows only 12% of republican candidates in key races have tiktoks. compared to 34% of democratic candidates. >> i've told them probably it is not worth it for them. and those are republicans. and i might make a different choice if i were a democrat and i were really counting on trying
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to motivate young people to vote for me. >> tiktok says it is confident they're on a path for an agreement with the government that will satisfy all reasonable national security concerns and the company pointed out they work to protect u.s. data with 100% of all american traffic routed through oracle's secure cloud infrastructure. and ahead of the midterms, tiktok launched an election center, partnered with fact checkers and it has policies against election misinformation. >> the china ownership factor, not a luge concern for you? >> i feel i can get to weigh the pluses and minuses and the pluses are more important. >> the politics of tiktok are new, a new midterm issue. >> still ahead, let's stick with can tech and thousands of twitter employees bracing for more layoffs as elon musk got the ball rolling and some have fired a lawsuit to push back. the latest our team is hearing from inside the company coming up after the break. coming up after the break so here's a good look at our new thick n fluffy french toast. artisan challah dipped in vanilla cinnamon batter.
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by half, 3700 jobs. some of those employees are filing a class action lawsuit, by saying twitter broke the law by not giving them a 60-day notice. so this is interesting timing for all of this at a platform that, while it's not as widely used as others like facebook for example on a much smaller user base, supporters say it had an influential user base four days out from the midterms. >> we're going into the midterm elections, which experts inside and outside twitter are saying going to be a carnival of misinformation, all happening as twitter cuts its workforce by half. we know already this morning that people woke up and over their coffee were reading emails
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