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you from msnbc world headquarters here in new york. welcome everyone to, alex witt reports. the race to the 2022 midterms is nearing the finish line. and just three days, in a matter of hours, the results will begin coming in for what could be one of the most consequential elections in u.s. history. new today, a trio of u.s. presidents bringing their star power to the campaign trail in this final weekend. president biden, and former president obama, will be in philadelphia together later today. that because after biden makes a stop in illinois, and obama holds a rally in pittsburgh, this in the next few hours. then former president trump will be in western pennsylvania rallying for republican candidates. more than 38 million americans have already cast their vote ahead of tuesday's elections. earlier today on msnbc, some candidates and key contests stressed the importance of reaching those voters yet to cast their ballots. >> races in the state are
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always close. our last three different elections were decided by 30,000 votes or fewer. so, people have to fight for every single inch here. >> the polls are always going to tell the story you want to see. what we know is that the untold story here is that this is a tight race that is neck and neck, and we believe that we are on a path to victory and we can get all of our voters turned out. >> meanwhile, the 2024 campaign could start right off the heels of the midterms. two sources tell nbc news that donald trump won't likely late make a third presidential bid official this month. house speaker nancy pelosi, now publicly speaking for the first time after her husband paul has been attacked with a hammer in their san francisco home last week. >> thank you, thank you, for your kind words, your prayers and your good wishes for paul. it's gonna be a long haul, but he will be well and it's just so tragic how it happened, but
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nonetheless, we have to be optimistic. he surrounded by family, so that's a wonderful thing. >> and the january six committee has now extended its subpoena deadline, as the panel still waits for trump to hand out documents. in a statement issued last night, the committee said it has been in come near casual trump's attorney. while davis to get dented document deadline to next week, they have not changed the date of his scheduled deposition which remains set for november 14th. but, first a midterm sprawl from coast to coast, msnbc is on the campaign trail. with nbc's dasha burns, alison barber, shaquille brewster, and jesse courage, we welcome you all, we're gonna begin with joshua, in wilkes-barre, pennsylvania. that is a battleground where much of today's action will take. 's dasha? >> this morning, with control of congress at stake, it's the race to the finish line. here in pennsylvania's u.s. senate race, its lieutenant governor john fetterman, versus the dr. mehmet oz. today we'll see dwelling headliners with president,
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biden and former president obama campaigning for fetterman in philly. while former president trump will rally for ours near pittsburgh. mr. obama has been front and center for democrats in recent weeks. mr. biden, not so much, giving rising inflation and his low approval numbers. mr. trump has been dropping more hint that he said to make another run for president. >> i will very, very, very, very probably do it. again >> it could all hands on how well the gop does on tuesday night. but one democratic candidate who seems to have his race tied up, attorney general josh shapiro. overnight, rallying his supporters. >> right now it's our time? >> evans very some of his support coming from the opposite party, showing his lead in the government raised far outpacing veterans in the senate. race >> why do you think there's such a difference between these two races? >> i'm focused on my race who is by far the most dangerous and extreme candidates running for office in the nation. i'm obviously humbled by the
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number of republicans who are joining our campaign, the independents who are joining our. campaign >> pollsters say the difference is due just putting their ticket, and that is just what cameron cox is doing. he says at mastriano's too extreme, and he's worried about fetterman's health following his stroke. >> the whole you can call shapiro accountable -- matranga carries accountable a. not i think john fetterman should actually take a nice long vacation after watching him on the debates page. >> pennsylvania is the democrats best chance to pick up ascendancy. without, it republicans could gain control of the chamber. >> that's dasha burns reporting there, to the kissing state of wisconsin now where the latest poll from -- house incumbent republican senator ron johnson leading democratic candidate mandela barnes. joining us now nbc's chicago news -- chicago, let's get to the final pitches. what what are they for the final candidates of running down to the wire there? >> while the big message is to go out and vote. you mentioned that marquette
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university poll that we got earlier this week. the big thing there, yes, we see ron johnson was a slightly, aide but it is well within the margin of error and that result is tighter than what we saw just a month ago. we saw lieutenant governor mandela barnes here in the community going out a canvas large. he got his people to get clipboards and get people to knock on doors. this is the last day of early voting in the west conson. on both sides you have campaign pounding the pavement trying to turn up the support in this area. you know, one thing they're also saying is a tight governor's race and was conson. it's just not that senate battle but that race, the latest poll showing things tied in that race. i want you to see how those attacks are flying starting with the ad from governor turley ever's. his last campaign out of the. cycle what we heard from ten michaels, his republican opponent, how he clarified the remarks that were brought up by the tony recapping. >> did you know tim michaels pledged to rig future elections? republicans will never lose
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another election in wisconsin after i'm elected governor. >> here's a clarity on those comments. once the people of wisconsin see what happens when we lower their taxes, when we lower their crime in response to, and when we reform education, and we have better schools, and we have a governor and a republican card party that will stand up for working families. we are going to never look back. >> so many issues at play. i was at an early voting location yesterday, and people tell me that things like inflation, immigration, abortion, those are driving them to the polls. two people who said that they don't usually vote in midterm elections, but they felt that this one was that important and that's why they came out to vote. that is what campaigns are trying to drive out right. now it's all about turnout. especially on this final full day of her. going >> well sounds like the folks there in wisconsin are no different than any where else in the country. we're seeing the hammock goes. thank you so much shack for that. the big senate race in georgia's neck and neck, more than 2.2 million people already
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cast their ballots by mail and in person. the latest poll says senator raphael warnock in a dead heat with republican challenger herschel walker, both at 48%. and the governor's race, a mayor's house brian kemp leading to stacey abrams in the number 53 to 45%. let's go to alison barber who is joining me now from athens, georgia. alice, i know that you're at a walker campaign event right now. you've been on her with the candidates all week long, what are you hearing from voters? >> yeah i'm gonna keep my voice out a lot, because this event is underway as you said. we are with herschel walker today, both candidates making their way, the final pleas to voters. his important come when senator raphael warnock, you will be in savannah georgia town doing the same. walker here, in athens. we spent a lot of time talking to georgia voters about this race, what they think of the candidates, and what issues are driving them to the polls. listen to some of what we've heard. >> i'm looking at a change in washington, and to make a
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change, then we need a republican senate. that's why voting for herschel. walker >> i think that herschel walker is a great football player, he was magnificent on the field, that was his arena, this is not his arena. >> the top three was military, their servers as well as i would say crime, for sure, and the economy. >> i think the issue of abortion is in the mind, i don't care about in cami, on flesh, an inflation is already there all the time. we >> and you mentioned how tight the polls are here, remember in georgia if neither candidate receives at least 50% over, over 50% of the vote here, they will go to a runoff in december. right now most polls nor neither warnock or walker have reached or pass that 50% threshold. so alex, it's very possible we might not have a winner come election night, alex.
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>> that is the expectation and i'm not going to lower my voice to say thank you to you've done excellent work down the campaign trail, but i understand your keeping your boy down concerning what's going on behind. you thank you so much allison. in the swing state of ohio, more than 1.3 million people have already cast ballots in person, or by mail. in the race for senate, the latest real clear politics of poll which republican j.d. vance ahead of democrat tim ryan. let's go right now to just the courage, he's in cincinnati for us. jesse welcome, what hearing in the campaign on the final stretch? >> he also first of all both candidates russian of what they're seeing from the polling. alex, that's obviously not something unique to this race or this election cycle. but no question that these two candidates are treating this as a close race. we've seen an infusion of cast from the national republicans to back up being. vance was on the trail with the statewide republican including governor mike dewine who appears for us to post
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reelection rector gantz democrat. you can see him arm in arm with the governor essentially trying to get a boost from statewide republicans. tim ryan on the other hand, is trying to make himself look like he is completely removed from the democratic partly. he has explicitly said that he does not want president biden here with him, and he continues to try to keep national leaders at arms length even as we see j.d. vance trying to tie ryan in with speaker nancy pelosi, and what the president, and tying his voting record to them as well. these two candidates, unlike other races where we might be seeing abortion, or election integrity as the marquee issue, this raises focus more on economic issues. obviously, we are in the economic manufacturing heartland of this country in many ways, and we are seeing the top of new jobs being brought to the state. these are issues that talk on the mind for voters. this is what he tried to capitalize on, we see vans focusing on inflation tying that two democratic moves that
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he says have exacerbated the economic woes in this country right now. again, trying to tie ryan in with those economic issues. we have seen people who are for both candidates, we have met people who are still undecided at this late phase of the election. we asked both candidates what their message would be to people undecided, specifically a group we met who work in manufacturing who said they need to do their research still on these two candidates. we asked them what they would want to hear from age, and here's what the candidates said their message would be. >> why do we have manufacturing starting to come back to the state of ohio, starting to come back to into our country? i think it starts with trump's policies, 56 years ago, and we need to build on it and that's exactly what we're talking about. doing >> and want them to know that j.d. vance has two donors, about 54 million, that's much mitch mcconnell, peter till, unpaid for tim high lying 424,000 donors. 95% of those contributions are
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under 100 bucks. >> now alex, it is worth pointing out that the vance campaign tells me that it also has received donations from hundreds of thousands of individuals, however, you can see that poll of these candidates have tried to tie each other to their party leaders, to the bogeyman if you will, from their parties. as opposed to being seen as someone standing on their own, and they both tried to style each of themselves as outsiders. we'll see how this shapes up. as you mentioned this has been a swing, say this has been a former president donald trump won both times and he ran for president. it's a question if tim ryan can poll some moderate republicans to his column,. alex >> -- we'll listen, to your point earlier to answer the last one as well, jesse, tim ryan has made a number of appearances on fox news appeal to typical viewing audience as well. so, we will see if it pays off for him, thank you so much. coming up, i'm going to talk with michael moore and ask him what he thinks will happen on tuesday.
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about the former president. first, up the january six committee announcing fired a night that it is now in contact with donald trump and his legal team. after the committee issued the subpoena to testify and flattering. the committee says trump and his lawyers must start producing records no later than next week, and there's this, nbc news confirms that donald trump intends to officially announce his third run for the white house this month. -- who cautioned the day this could also flood. the president gave one of his biggest visas yet in iowa thursday. >> and now, in order to make
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our country successful, and safe, and gloria's, i will very, very, very, probably do it again. okay? get ready! that's all i'm telling you. get ready. >> joining me now to talk about all of this is jonathan allen, senior national politics reporter for nbc news. are you ready? jonathan i'm just kidding, we're gonna have this -- as we talk about 2024 to kick off our conversation. what do you first of all, make of the timing of trump's apparently pending announcement? >> well, it's good to see you alex. he has been wanting to announce going for president for a long time but his aides have been holding him back. sources that we've talked to over the course of the last year or so said that he is just itching to get back out there, there are reasons to hold back. >> why? why? why? why would they hold him back? is it because he thinks that they might be amid negative
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influence under the trumpian sphere, or why? >> yeah, it's a few things. number one, he can suck up campaign cash that would otherwise go to his candidates in the midterm. he can get in the way, destructive message and make it about him instead of about them which might complicate some of those voices. of course, once he becomes an official candidate for president, his campaign is limited in its ability to coordinate with the super pacs were a lot of the big money goes to. there are a lot of reasons for him to have held back at this point. if it seems unlikely -- that he's gonna hold up for much longer, and of course is going to announce the date that he's gone to. >> so the last point. money? that's a big reason? i mean we know the way donald trump thinks. we know his world. does he immediately fall under the -- of campaign finance why is the moment he announces, is that what happens? >> yeah, pretty much it triggers. that so you get basically, each donor can give a maximum of $3,000 to the campaign and the
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campaign can use those 3000 dollar donations, are even smaller donations to do a lot of their work. but the big money goes to the super pacs that are allotting what donald trump -- some of those outside groups have been paying for his legal bowls at this point. it becomes a complication for him. there's a lot of workarounds. >> okay. here's a question when you talk about complications. how could all the investigations impact a trump white house run? could any of them, jonathan, keep him from running even before conviction? i mean if he were to be officially charged with a family knee from one of these investigations, does that preempt him from running? >> no alex. i think a lot of people believe that if he was to be tried and that somehow he would be able to run for president. or some how if he was can -- the qualifications for running for running for president are pretty simple on the road laid out in the constitution. it be very difficult for new law to come into place. >> wait.
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jonathan hang on. you're telling me that if he were to be convicted of a felony, he could still run for president? you have felonious conflicts who won't be able to vote in an election. you mean donald trump, if you are convicted, could run for president? >> absolutely. he could run for president, from a prison cell. nothing stopping them from. him >> oh? okay. there is that caveat, got it! let's go to new york magazine article that since trump's rumored 2024 kickoff could mean trouble for republicans. it does that a new trump prospect could reinvigorate dams because there's nothing quite like hearing the big bad wolf howling outside the door to this and still it is dire for unity among all the little piggies who fear being gobbled up politically just two years down the road. what's your take on that one? >> i think that's right. i think that there's a huge fear of donald trump, not just on the democrat side, but also
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on the republican side. there's a penalty, there's a price for getting outside of donald trump, or getting on the wrong side of donald trump. i mean, if he runs, it's hard to see anybody beating him on the republican side. >> even rhonda scientists? >> even rhonda santas. it's hard to see, i'm nothing can happen. i'm seeing insurgency. >> let's go to the january six committee now -- to turn over documents the committee as you know has extended the deadline to the three -- is there any sense jonathan, that donald sensible comply? >> now, i don't think there. is it would be shocking if donald trump went and testified before the january six committee. especially now that he's going to go for presidents. stranger things have happened, but i don't get the sense that that is on the floor right now. >> okay. jonathan allen, thank you so much. i'm sorry for jumping in so much, but you drop of all these great points that i was like
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of the hour here in new york. and we are counting down the mid terms just three days away. we're about to give you some live pictures from pittsburgh, that is where former president obama will be rallying with john fetterman at any moment now. but you recognize that. guy that is the dnc chair, jaime harrison there. it is the latest that in the former presidents campaign events. he's been crisscrossing the country from arizona to georgia in recent days trying to get momentum for the democratic candidates. meanwhile, some breaking news out on the trail today as president biden is expected to speak any moment now in joliette, illinois.
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that's right near chicago. there you see right now the president will be talking a prescription drug costs, social security, and medicare. that's not a live picture, otherwise we'd be taking a live for you. but let's go right now to nbc's gary grumbach who is there with more. gary, welcome, what is the message that biden wants to get across to voters in illinois right now? >> yeah, it's the same message that he's been giving as the final push to voters across the country as he's made this last push. it's that he believes that the biden administration's accomplishments, and democrats accomplishments around the country over the past two years has really given as he calls, more breathing room to people when it comes to their expensive. we do expect to hear a lot about social security, we expect to hear a lot about medicare, the signature issues that those signature laws including the bipartisan infrastructure act and the inflation reduction act, both of which have serious effects, maybe not yet on the american people, but will starting on january 1st.
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it really stands in stark contrast to what the republicans final message is. i was covering the donald trump rally in sioux city iowa, and that big rally, and that big message was all about immigration, crime, and inflation, things that we're not going to hear here today. alex? >> okay. that's the democrats, let's talk about the message to republicans. was that massive gun before the problem president? >> so it's likely going to be a lot of, who do they think they are. that's a quote that he uses often on the campaign trail. there's litter being handed out here about senator rick scott's 12 court plan to what he calls, rescue america. president biden has some issues with that plan, especially as it relates to some medicare and social security. part of that plan involves subset in all of that federal legislation after five years. if congress wants to restart again, they can. democrats and president biden have a very big issue with that. another thing that president has an issue with, which i'm sure went here today, involves how republicans promote the
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things that they voted against. for example, the paycheck protection program as it relates to covid payments that some of these legislators across the country actually benefited fitted from. a bit of contrasting and comparing here today in illinois, alex. >> okay so the president will be calling him out as well. that's what we. expects gary, thanks for the preview. meantime, a new article in the american park suspect that says the missing factor in the election story, turnout. it goes on to say that is the variable that matters most, but you won't see it and most of the pond into predicting democratic losses. joining me now, is anna greenberg managing director of gq are, that's a democratic polling from that's facing washington d.c.. anna, welcome, good to have you here on the saturday. what does recent history tell us about how much of an impact turnout has on which party takes control of congress? >> well, turnouts everything. obviously the way independent voters break will have an impact on election, outcomes but turnout in this polarized country where partisanship is
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just such a strong predictor of how people vote, is everything. we are seeing really important signs on both in self reporting servers, but also in the early vote but democratic turnout will be robust in 2022. it's not really been discuss in all these -- the sky is falling, republicans are going to win everything, but there's a lot of evidence that democratic turnout is going to be very robust in 2020. two >> oh, okay. according to our target that embarrassing, this is from target, smart democrats right now are indeed leading in early voting percentages, but how indicative is it up what we can see on election day, or do you anticipate more republicans vote in person on tuesday? >> it really depends on where you are talking about. so, for example, in arizona, right now democratic turnout in early voting is matching 2020, but republican turnout is down 12%. presumably they're waiting to vote total election, date so it's really not going to know very much about what the balance between democrats and
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republicans is in arizona and other places that the democratic early vote weathers by, mail or in person is so far outpacing previous cycles, it's suggests potentially a democratic nine in some of those places. but, you know, there are places where turnout is down, there are places in turn now is more republican. north carolina is more public, and texas is a little tougher. you can really make a blanket statement. it's also very difficult to compare in places like new jersey, and new york, which didn't really have robust pre-covid, and very robust mobile in covid. this is the first post covid election. we don't know how many of those folks who voted by mail are going to continue to do so or do in person. so, it's not easy, and it's not unifying but on the balance most of the places are showing very robust turnout in early vote for democrats big gap between democrats and republicans. >> okay. i want to drill down to our target smart data which shows that women are leading men when it comes to early voting. but happen on election day itself. do you expect woman to make up a large portion of voting
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tuesday as history, does that give us an education on? that >> will first of all, one men are majority of the population, and they are the majority of the electorate. so they're always going to be more women than men. you wouldn't know when people talk about the woman's vote as if it's a small special interest, but women are the majority of the electorate. in minority communities in particular, you see much higher levels of women turning out to vote. in states that have a big hispanic population, you should expect to see even a bigger bias in women's turnout in their composition of the electorate. so yes, i spoke to see more women than men. will it be exponentially more, we don't know. oh lot of targets smart does very important analysis on new registers on showing that post office, there was a very big gender gap in young people registering to vote in that young woman would much more likely to register to vote than young man. younger people are more likely to vote on election day. it's certainly possible that the youthful will drive a bit court i'm -- sorry a bigger chunk of women
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coming out of. again, we're not going to know until election day. >> yeah, i mean to reiterate your point, there was a huge surgeon woman registering to vote after the supreme court overturned roe v. wade that made the decision to june 24th. how much of a motivating factor is the issue of abortion today? is it as much as it was over the summer in the immediate wake of that ruling. >> yeah, i mean it is. i'm saying that it's strange when people say that the issue doesn't matter anymore. we saw the democrats, republicans, there was a republican advantage on self reported motivation. post ops this has even out and even maintained. in some places, it's actually higher, depending on if states where abortion is banned, or heavily restricted, you actually see an even bigger bump of democratic motivation to come out to vote because of dobbs. now, you know, there's certainly been a lot of advertising about it. we've seen some of the groups that got softer for democrats in 2021, like college education woman, and younger woman who have backed heavily into democratic columns.
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there is both a boost in motivation for democrats, which has endured and also a movement toward democrats among some of the groups were things were a little softer as you would expect in a midterm. so, i expect the impact to be profound, and i think it is a big reason why a lot of races are actually more competitive than they should have been given the assumption that we make about who wins the midterm. elections >> okay, what a conversation. gq ours anna greenberg, thank you ana great having. russia there's one very significant way that a trump presidential run in 2024 could affect the department of justices investigations into the former president. we're going to tell you one way there is something, and then it's potential effect on all the legal troubles that are hanging over donald trump, will bring to. next next they have a high-risk factor. such as heart disease, diabetes, being overweight, asthma, or smoking. even if symptoms feel mild, these factors can increase
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student loan forgiveness plan. that program would allow $20,000 of that. an appeals court ruling has already put that on hold for the time being. new today the prospect of donald trump running for president has again the department of justice weighing its options. the new york times reports of federal prosecutors are considering appointing a special counsel to oversee the investigation into the former president if he announces his candidacy. this setting people familiar with the matter. joining me now, melissa murray, a professor of law at new york university, and former law clerk to judge sonia to mira. she is also an msnbc legal analyst. welcome alyssa, let's get into it. the doj has a stamp imposed 30-day hiatus on issuing subpoenas ahead of the midterms. behind the scenes, they are considering just what an indictment or trial would look like a pillow trump actually runs. so why would the appointment of a special master be under
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consideration? >> well i think one of the reasons why the doj is concerning the prospect of appointing a special counsel to oversee these prosecutions, or investigations, if they indeed do go forward with them is that merrick garland has been assiduously focused on restoring the sons of impartiality and neutrality to the department. again, restoring it after four years of the trump administration warning that the doj was merely a defense arm of the administration. so, he wants to make clear that there is this line between the administration and the department. appointing a special counsel to oversee these investigation would insulate the department, and indeed the administration from any claims that these kinds of prosecutions, or investigations, are politically motivated elated. aimed at taking down who could be the administration's chief rivals in 2024. now, that's not to say that they will be entirely successful with this. we know from the investigations that special counsel's themselves can be subject of withering criticism about their
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political motivations. it would go a long way towards insulate and the apartments with the charges. >> okay, but i'm curious about how special counsel's work? how does that differ from the justice department as it moves forward on its own, on its own path? i mean is there any crossover there? >> obviously the special counsel would, again, be appointed with the department which would make a request for. but again it would be insulated. -- often done in conjunction gym with the house of the initiation. this kind of a firewall here that would insulate them, and again, give the appearance that neutrality that would go oblong a long way if indeed former president trump would now be candidate trump. someone who's still a target of these investigations, but it was also running for presidents. >> can research -- can information gathered cross pollinate the two? i mean, it does seem like a bit of a waist if you've got the doj doing something, and then all has to be replicated under separate jurisdiction if you
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will, under special counsel. >> i think this is one of the things that the department is trying to figure out. now what can still be salvaged? what can be transferred to a special counsel? what would have to essentially be done again from scratch? so, again, i think there's a lot of discussion about whether special counsel should be appointed, and what those terms of appointments to look like,. what those kinds of concerns would look like. >> can donald trump get away with all of the stuff that he is doing? that the doj is looking into, can he get away with it if he runs again? >> i think that's one of the reasons why a 2024 run is so attractive to someone who would be one of the oldest presidents in our history if indeed he was elected. again, the fact that there is a -- from prosecution for sitting presidents was obviously something that was critically important during the mueller investigation for donald trump, and likely will continue to be
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important in the run up to the election, and would be very important if in fact he was elected president in 2024. >> okay, let's turn to the questions of the future of affirmative action because as you know this week the supreme court heard that mueller than five hours of -- college admissions, one from the challenges of the university of north carolina's, and the other one involving harvard. live audio from the proceedings provided some insight into the justice's thinking. we're gonna play some right now. >> race alone doesn't account for why someone is admitted or not. >> i've heard the word diversity quite a few times and i don't have a clue what it means. it just mean seems to mean everything for everyone. >> there are 40 factors about all sorts of things that the admission office is looking at, and you haven't demonstrated or shown one situation in which they all look at's race and take from that stereotype and other things. they're looking at full person
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with all those characteristics. >> so from what you heard melissa, on monday, i do expect that conservative sergio two up and president on the court releases its decisions in june? >> absolutely,, alex. i think there are definitely five votes to overrule gruden versus bellinger. that's the 2003 case that affirmed that they diversity is a developmental interest. if it was done a holistic fashion. what we saw from justices sotomayor in jackson here were an effort to hold the line. to be clear that in a holistic addition admissions progress -- race is always one of many factors. no one's ever chosen solely because of race. they didn't get much traction from the conservative, not surprisingly, and much of the action in this whole argument which spanned almost six hours, it was truly a marathon, but most of the actions seem to be resigned to the prospect of overruling or a limiting the
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use of race and focusing on what exactly constituted race neutral methods that would still be successful and yielding a diverse population at any given university, or college. >> wow. that would be a seismic shift. we will have to wait till june perhaps. melissa murray, thank you so much always a pleasure. heads still spinning after a rough daytona headquarters. next we're going to talk about this headline, you're about to see, and the recent spike of hate speech on the app. ech on the app just buy any footlong in the app, and get one free. free monsters, free bosses, any footlong for free! this guy loves a great offer. so let's see some hustle! technically when enamel is gone, you cannot get it back. but there are ways you can repair it. i'm excited about pronamel repair because it penetrates deep into the tooth to help actively repair acid-weakened enamel. i recommend pronamel repair to my patients.
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massive layoffs at twitter. the cuts primarily affect workers responsible for fighting misinformation, potentially hobbling twitters capabilities before the crucial midterms. nbc's jacob -- has more from san francisco. >> thousands of twitter employees are out of a job. after roughly half the staff received this message by email friday, today is your last working day at the company. elon musk saying in a tweet that he had no choice, all of this just seven this after he acquired the company and only three days before the midterm elections will test footers ability to handle misinformation. according to sources inside the company, the layoffs hit teams that filter out hate speech, add context, and study how algorithms can make misinformation worse. bad act there's will now try to take advantage experts. if >> the environment on twitter is going to duck grade and erode, especially as we've seen a lot of motivated far-right actors jumping in,
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creating hate, harassment, and incitement content because they know that it's not going to be removed. >> twitter did not resign respond for a request for comment, but musk says he's optimistic tweeting on friday, our goal is to make twitter the most accurate source of information, without regard to political affiliation. musk has offered to promise the new check might who ossify that someone is who they claim to be to anyone who -- but on friday people already in person-ing musk, a possible preview of chaos to come. meanwhile, the real most was complain about activists hurting the company's ad revenues. companies like pfizer, and general, murders pulled their ads from the platform. in a class action lawsuit filed thursday, alleges the company did not give the employees adequate notice under federal law. >> nbc's jake ward, thank you so much for. that will mask appeared to connect what he described as a massive drop in and revenue to a meeting he ad with activist
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groups. they sent a letter to twitter advertisers expressing concern with what they say was a rise and hate speech over the mosque takeover. the washington post says use of the n-word spiked nearly 500% in 12 hours. musk said twitter's commitment to content moderation remains unchanged, he added that hateful speech declined below prior norms at times during the past week. joining me now, ben jealous, former and naacp president. now president of people for the american way, his next book comes out in january, never forget our people were always free. and you're also a good friend. so good to see you ben. i'm hearing, did you notice the in greece in hate speech on 21 mosque over? >> sure, and our team at right wing watch is very concerned. because right now what you're seeing is this information post across the country and getting rid of all these employees that twitter who are kind of holding that tied back, was getting
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extremely racing. disinformation in this country since the end of the civil war, has spiked political violence. the real concern is that people can be harmed, people can die as a result of an increase in disinformation on the platform as awful as twitter. >> so, musk, i'm sure you saw quote we did everything we could to appease the activists. what did civil rights group ask for in the call with musk's, and did he make any promises to them? >> folks left saying that he sounded, good but not very. assured there's a real sense that musk kind of dances to his own drum, that he's not really inclined to compromise, that he's not really serious about fighting hate speech. on the one hand you can say a lot of good things, but your actions count more, and when you lay off essentially how the team that's fighting disinformation and hate speech on the platform, why should the activists walk away feeling
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anything but grave concern that things are headed in exactly the wrong direction? >> well, as you say, actions speak louder than words. we know that conservative twitter users are not exactly happy with mosque, as he did not immediately reiterate users that have been thrown off the platform for misinformation and the long list of de-platform the users, as you know it includes donald trump. where is your biggest concern for twitter just three days away from midterms now? >> the real concern right now is that half of the team have been fighting disinformation has been let go. what we know is that disinformation, especially targeting frankly, black voters, tends to increase at exactly this moment. we've got to pay attention to his actions. he's going to try to say all the right things, he needs to appease of investors, but he's gotta be worried about the impact on tesla, quite frankly. but right now, what we're concerned about is our impact on the democracy, and our
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communities, and all signs are pointing at exactly the wrong direction. >> payback, and to stick with me right here, president obama is speaking right now in pittsburgh. let's take a listen. everybody >> for yarn ex governor, josh shapiro. for your next great senator, john fetterman? what in case you don't know, you can vote at your polling place on november 8th from 7 am to 8 pm. and if you need more information, just go to i will vote.com, find out where to go, make a plan. >> i love you? >> i love you back? you [applause] if you have a ballot in your hand, get it to a drop
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box or your county clerk's office as soon as possible, before 8 pm on election day. then you need to get your friends and family to vote! we all have, our cousin pukki, we all have our uncle joe, they're sitting on the couch right now as we speak, they're watching college football. near and that's okay, except they four have forgotten that they're supposed to vote. so you have to remind them. take them with you when you go. because this election requires every single one of us to do our part, it's that important. now, i think it's good to, this country has gone through tough times this past few years.
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we have been through some stuff. we're just now coming out of a pandemic, direct havoc on families and schools. everybody was impacted someone impacted more. we had a new phrase, essential workers. that means workers actually who. work [laughs] some votes last people they loved. probably some people this crowd lost somebody they loved. and the pandemic also highlighted, and in some cases made worse, problems we've been struggling worse with for years. an economy that works for folks at the very top, but not so much for ordinary people. communities where too many kids are out of school, and out of work, and out of hope, and that sometimes leads them to
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violence and despair. then justin roczen of civility and basic democratic norms who've got politicians who were -- to make us angry and afraid of one another just for their own advantage so that they can take power. all of this gets hyped up, and amped up, 24/7 by social media. that has decided that it is more profitable to promote controversy and conflict and conspiracies, rather than facts and truth. you know, just a few days ago a friend of mine, paul pelosi, was attacked in his own home. somebody breaks into his house looking for his wife, nancy, the speaker of the house. thankfully, he's back home now and we're going to let investigators do their jobs, but here's what's clear,
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pittsburgh, this habit we have of demonizing political moments, of saying crazy stuff, it creates a dangerous climate. [inaudible] leadership positions who promote or ignore over the top rhetoric. then, when there's an attack like this they make light of, it they joke about it. we more people are going to get her. with more than that we violate the basic spirit of our democracies. the spirit of who we are as americans. and by the way it's not just politicians whether thought of violence or ignorance, we've seen recently a big sliver is we posting bio antisemitic conspiracy theories online and you don't have to be a student of history to understand how dangerous that is, and how unacceptable that is.
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and i don't know when we decided that we were just going to believe everything we read on the internet. here's a tip for, you, if you read or see something online that has some grand theory about how some particular group, whether it's black folks, are white, folks are jews, or catholics, or immigrants, or days, if you read or see something that says they are the cause of all problems, then it's safe to say it is garbage. it is a lie. it is dangerous poison we've got a call it out, and put it into that kind of mindset. that kind of mindset. [applause] >> unfortunately, it seems as if this kind of poison gets more and more essential. so i understand why people would feel anxious. i get why you might be worried about the course of our country, i get worried to
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