tv Alex Witt Reports MSNBC November 5, 2022 9:00am-10:00am PDT
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decided that we were just going to believe everything we read on the internet. here's a tip for, you, if you read or see something online that has some grand theory about how some particular group, whether it's black folks, are white, folks are jews, or catholics, or immigrants, or days, if you read or see something that says they are the cause of all problems, then it's safe to say it is garbage. it is a lie. it is dangerous poison we've got a call it out, and put it into that kind of mindset. that kind of mindset. [applause] >> unfortunately, it seems as if this kind of poison gets more and more essential. so i understand why people would feel anxious. i get why you might be worried about the course of our country, i get worried to.
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i understand why sometimes it may be tempting just tune out. just to watch football or hd tv or the great british baking show. whatever floats your boat. but i'm here to tell you pittsburgh, the tuning out is not an option. moping is not an option. the only way to make this economy fair is if we, all of us, fight for. and the only way to save democracy if is if we together fight for it. and it starts with electing people who know you. who see you, who care about you, who stood in your shoes, you did that two years ago when you sent joe biden to the white house, he is fighting for you every day, he has your back.
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doing everything you can to put more money in your pockets, to make our streets safer, to bring more good paying jobs here to pennsylvania, and now you need to do it again. because while there may be a lot of issues at stake in this election, there is one basic question that you should be asking yourself right now. and that is who will fight for you? that is a choice in this election, who will fight for you? who will fight for working people who are struggling to pay their bills. listen, inflation is a real problem right now, it's not just here in america, it is worldwide. and it has to do with the legacy of the pandemic. it wrecked supply chains, disrupted the economy, and then you have a war on ukraine that sent energy prices through the roof so grocery prices are
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going, up gas prices going up, it takes a real bite out of their paychecks. it hurts. i get that. but the question you have to understand is, who is actually going to do something about it? the republicans like to talk about it, but what is their answer? what is their economic policy? but they want to gut social security, they want to get medicare, they want to give rich folks and big corporations more tax cuts. by the way, don't boo, vote. they can't hear you do, but they will hear you vote. now, it should come as no surprise that republicans want to cut taxes for the wealthy and the big corporations, because that is their solution to everything. when play shun is low, they say,
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let's cut taxes for the wealthy. if unemployment is high, let's cut taxes. when is the reverse, they want to cut taxes on the wealthy. if there was an asteroid that headed towards earth, they will get a room and say you know what we need? tax cuts for the rich. it is nice if you have one answer to every economic problem. we have some students here, do you remember when -- [applause] maybe you are more responsible than me. there are sometimes when i was a school where i did not study. and you go in and let's say there is a math test that you did not study for, it would be nice if you could just write down the same answer for every question. this rideout eight, and then you'll get an a. but that does not work. it doesn't work in math and it doesn't work in economics. and that is why democrats have an actual plan, to take on the
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drug companies to lower prices. to pass laws to make housing more affordable. to make sure that big corporations create jobs here in pennsylvania instead of overseas. that is the choice in this election. that is what this is all about. there is a lot of talk about crime right now. you know violent crime has gone up, but you know it went up over the last seven years, not the last two. they don't talk about the previous guy. it has gone up in conservative rural places, not just cities, but the question is, who will fight to keep you and your family safe? is it republican politicians who want to flood our streets with more guns? who actually voted against more resources for police departments? or is it the democratic leaders who worked with president biden to pass the first major gun safety legislation and 30 years,
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that is the choice in this election. who will fight for your freedoms? as a republican politicians and judicial appointees who think they should get to decide when you start a family? >> how many children you have, who you marry, who you love? or is it democratically leaders who believe that the freedom to make these most personal decisions belongs to you, to every american, and not politicians and washington. that is the choice in this election. and pittsburgh, who is going to fight to make our democracy actually work for you? republican politicians have promised, if they get control of congress, they're going to spend the next two years investigating their political
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opponents. they said, it some of them have said that they are going to impeach president biden. they are not sure what for. but apparently that is beside the point. how is that going to help you pay your bills? or, do you think you maybe stand a better chance of getting help, and things improving if you have president biden and the democratic leaders who have worked together and sometimes have gotten republicans to pass an infrastructure bill that creates new jobs. you are making health care and prescription drugs cheaper. who have made unions stronger, who have made the single largest investment ever in the fight against climate change. that is the choice in this election. pennsylvania, you have a choice between politicians who have seen --
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say anything into anything to get power. and people who see you and know you, and care about you, and share in your values. we want to make your lives better and move this country forward and bring people together. and let me be clear about this, this has not always been a part of something. notone of the tough things abot campaigning, it makes it sound as if it is the blue team versus the red team, that is all i care about. listen, my favorite president ever was a guy named abe lincoln. he helped found the republican party. there used to be gop members. >> split screen for all of you at the top of the hour here, i'm alex witt and re-look at barack obama and joe biden dueling presidents if you, well but with the same message. one in pittsburgh, pennsylvania, we've been listening to barack obama, let's pivot right now and listen to joe biden in joliet, illinois. >> that's why with the help of
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-- and members of your delegation, we pass the inflation reduction act. because it made medicare stronger, look, take prescription drugs. folks, we pay the highest price for prescription drugs of any industry [inaudible] develop nation in the world. same, same drug. same exact drug. made by the same company make in chicago, so that in paris, it is cheaper in paris. there's no rationale for, it none. and many of these drugs they come up with are the consequence of government research. i'm glad that came up with it. for years, we fought to get medicare the power to negotiate what they pay for prescription drugs, just like we do for the veterans administration, the va,
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and they said, you want to sell us, figuratively speaking, aspirin and [inaudible] if you don't want us all to, us we will go somewhere else. but for years, big pharma has blocked us from being able to negotiate that. they are the only exception out there. but not this year. we finally beat big pharma. we finally, finally, finally. medicare will finally have the power to negotiate low prescription drug prices just like va. additionally [inaudible] out of pocket expenses for the out of drugs cap. you know people, maybe some of you who are saying seven, eight, $10,000 a year for prescriptions, because you have cancer and other serious disease. but guess what, because of the help of this delegation sitting in front of me, we kept that level, no senior starting january one will have to pay more than $2,000 a year for all
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of their drugs. [applause] whether their bills are now seven, eight, ten 12:13 or $14,000 a year, no more than $2,000 a year, the companies will still make -- >> we are keeping a very close eye on president joe biden, also former president barack obama, they are different states right, now and we have that guy, he is in pittsburgh pennsylvania, and course president biden is in joliet, illinois right now. we also of nbc's mike memoli, he's joining us from philadelphia, pennsylvania, where you will have both of these presidents together later on today. they will be campaigning of course for john fetterman and josh shapiro. it's a tell me what is going on, they're how excited the folks, our and oh the good stuff that we want to get from you, mike. >> well this is obviously not the biggest event that's happening philadelphia this, week i was your call there's a guy with the first lady for the world series, so that maybe took the cake more than this
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today, but we are seeing what is intended to be the biggest political show of force for pennsylvania democrats on the cusp of what is obviously a very critical election. really pennsylvania is the key for democrats. this is the, race and the senate race that has been seen by the white house as perhaps the most crucial and whether they need to win in order to have control of the senate going forward. that is why you're seeing this reunion of four -- former running mates and president boma and president biden to get it here. i would say the line here. we are five hours before this event is even supposed to begin, and a societal temple university, here we have a line all the way of the whole city blocks here, and people have been gathered as early as 6 am they have told me, because they wanted to make sure they got inside this event tonight. so what are we going to see? we have seen just heard from president obama and, pittsburgh and running from president biden in illinois. and what they're going to be doing here together, it's the talk about, they've been having a lot of conversations with one of them, chanting my phone and trading intelligence and what they've been saying is they've been crisscrossing the country,
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and there's been a recognition on both of their parts, that with inflation, the concerns about the economy, it is making it harder to make the case for democrats may be given all of the accomplishments the president biden is now talking about in illinois, specifically. and it they will try to work together tonight to try to talk about not what just what democrats have, done but what is really at stake in the senate race and the governor's races crystallizing was that's steak if democrats can control the senate again, and after their majority, president biden has vowed that they will codify road versus wade if josh shapiro is successful in one of the governorship, here than that prevents in election denier for being elected to the governorship, and we all know alex comported pennsylvania, is not just in 2022 in the midterms, but looking ahead to 2024. that is why president biden has come to pennsylvania, 18 times when he comes here today. that's more than any other state for official of political events, and this is the state alex the put him over the top to win his election two years, ago it's one that if he runs in 2024 is going to become
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actually critical as well. >> 100 percent, which is say that we are keeping a very close eye on barack obama, joe biden as, well and we should also know that we talk obama, first time he's been appeared to campaign for a number of years, and so that is good for all of those in pennsylvania. mike, thank you so much for that. let's have a conversation right now. joining me now is adrienne our, a democratic strategist and former senior aide on the biden harris campaign. interested, mayer former gop congressional communications director and senior advisor to the lincoln project. welcome to you both. so, adrian you've seen the, both presidents pardon former president obama together in pennsylvania today. how significant is it having the two of them together on the campaign trail and to what extent is it going to help joshua pirro and john fetterman. >> let's very significant, alice, and i think what this means is that it's evidence of what we all know, and rarely seeing it play out in realtime. this is ground, zero this is where the senate will be lost or one for democrats. that is why you are seeing two of the biggest targets of our
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party, the president the united states, the former president united states going out there and campaigning and getting the trails going, and the fact that you have people who are waiting in line to see both of them together tonight's testament to the enthusiasm that the democrats have on our side. in pennsylvania, and alex, first of, all i can get enough of president obama. every two years i look forward to seeing him live because he really knows how to deliver a strong closing message. and you hear him talk about, he had some of the issues that republicans have been trying to get democrats on. crime, for example. he went there and said that crime is bad but it's only been bad for seven years in which donald trump do about what he was president? inflation, yes it's, bad but democrats have a plan to fix it. what are republicans going to do? and of course we went right there on the investigations to, it made it clear that if republicans every ounce of control of the house of the senate, all they will do is investigate, they will not be fighting for you. and so that is a strong message, or in a strong surrogate, and i
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think he is the first one to really talk about the handful of undecided voters and really motivate the democrats to make sure that no matter what happens, they turn out this weekend, where the turnout on election day and every vote matters in a race like pennsylvania where we'll come down to the wire. it's going to be very close. >> yes, sure is. tara, in the past few days, before lab from the president, biden this on the message of protecting democracy. is this the most effective closing argument? do you think it is resonating enough to have some kind of an impact on the undecideds in the independents come tuesday? >> i think this should have been at the top of the messaging from the very beginning. if people don't understand what is at stake and what they can lose, they are not motivated to fight for it. i applaud president biden for going out there and sticking to his gut instincts about the importance of democracy and what this country faces if republicans are given power again. we the lincoln project have put together a closing argument
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called country over party, hoist over by that wonderful peter coyote, where we talk about this. millions of americans rejected the hatred in the division and the chaos, the bigotry in the extremism of maga. they've done it before, and now it is time to do it again. because that is what is on the ballot when you have to make these choices. inflation is important, yes, crime is important, yes, and all of these other economic issues, they're important, but it's clear that republicans are not focusing on their solutions to that as adrienne has said, and as president obama has so effectively said. they are not focused on. that they're focused on scaring people, they are focused on division, and they feel is what they will do it get back into power. they try to impeach joe biden, they will try to if, doug mastriano pennsylvania doubted whether he could, when you want to run the country like a theocracy. like iranian -- i don't kind of country he thinks we live, and that's not how we do things here in america. you look at arizona, look at some of the extremist they're talking about what they want to do to our elections. these people are democracy
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deniers. so absolutely, one to, percent i think that is an important closing matches as americans understand those are the measures do not matter if we no longer have a democracy. >> he just summed up was going to, say you have to have the foundation on which this country was built solely in place before we can start tackling the issues that are in front of us. and i want to talk about ohio with, you adrienne, democratic senate candidate tim ryan has given his thoughts on the democrats closing message, and he says that it is a problem that people who are hurting financially will turn to republicans before democrats. dick a listen of what he said. >> the national democrats problem is that a woman who has had an economic problem just outside of toledo, ohio, is looking to the republican party for some help, and the republican party is doing nothing but defending extremists and wanting to overthrow the government and undermine our democracy. that is a problem the national democratic party has. >> do you agree with, them adrian, is this argument an effective way to thread both
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the threat to democracy, and the economy together? >> i think he is doing exactly what needs to do in a place like ohio, which of course we have to remember that they lost ohio by eight, points hillary clinton also lost in ohio. this is a feat that is trending until ryan can win here and i think he will wind and this could be a huge thing for democrats, and the way that we can play in ohio going forward, but he is doing it very carefully, and i don't think that as a national democratic strategist exactly agree with him, but when you have democrats, or one party in control of the white house, anytime there is a problem in this country, that party gets blamed. and i think he's doing what he's needs to do, and the way that he's going to win this race is to attract some of those moderate republicans who are very turned off by j.d. vance. the fact that he is an election
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denier, the fact that he has made racist and bigoted statements, and we can go on and on about him. tim ryan has to be careful about how messages things, because he is trying to bring in some of those key republicans who pushed into the finish line. >> and we have to talk about donald trump with you tara, because he is in pennsylvania, today and two sources familiar with his thinking have said that he will likely officially announce a third presidential run this month, but cautioned that the date they've talked about, that could slide. but what do you make of this, given both his legal turmoil, and how closely it comes after the midterms. and does it change the stakes for next week's election? >> we have all been bracing for donald trump to run again, we know that he has been looking to do this since he lost last time around. and because he thinks that, a it will continue the grift but they can keep bringing money, and into, that it could legally protect him from the multitude of legal problems that he's facing. and very serious ones.
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if it when he, whilst they would be in jail by now, and we wouldn't be having these conversations. in another world, before trump is seen to throw everything upside, down the hall trump would have been prosecuted for a number of issues by now. but now that we see, this i can understand that there was a married man trump's world to try to stop him from announcing before the midterms. why? because they know that don trump being the focus of this does not do well for moderate voters. the voters that adrienne was talking about in ohio, that are the the moderate or independent voters who lean republican but i completely turned off by donald trump. and you do not want people reminded what mag or fellow cancer life. and the fact that he is even in pennsylvania today and that mehmet oz is standing next to donald trump in the final weekend, that is probably not the best campaign decision for the oz people, because they know that they need those moderates in philadelphia, and in those surrounding suburbs.
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that was the difference for joe biden in 2020. it should have taken a page out of glenn -- and kept armless from donald trump and so that he can convince those suburban voters to vote for them. and there are no get more republicans anymore, as long as they stay next with donald trump, and continue the electrolyte. but trends jumping back into the race, i think strap in everyone, because it's going to be cast once again. i hope the department of justice is not deterred by doing their duty, because you have to be a country of laws. and on trump cannot be someone who is seen as above the law, or where are we? we lose faith in those institutions. and i think that is another aspect of our democracy that is in peril if donald trump goes without being held accountable. >> as i say all the, time buckle up everybody, let's get ready. we can take a very short break right now, shorter than usual in fact, and i want to talk to you both about the red wave narrative that we keep hearing about. and so it can make a very compelling case against, it in
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fact democrats might spring is a price in some places, and we're gonna show you who's saying what, and all the proof of that next as we very closely monitor what is going on as we see president joe biden just wrapping up, they're in joliet, illinois. still on the trail and still talking a very interject barack obama, appealing to the crowd there in pittsburgh, pa, and we are monitoring it, everybody we will be right back. any footlong for free! this guy loves a great offer. so let's see some hustle! covid-19 moves fast, and now you can too by asking your healthcare provider if an oral treatment is right for you. oral treatments can be taken at home and must be taken within 5 days from when symptoms first appear. if you have symptoms of covid-19, even if they are mild, don't wait, get tested quickly. if you test positive and are at high risk of severe disease, act fast. ask if an oral treatment is right for you. covid-19 moves fast, and now you can too.
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he might continue for the next three days, and we are glad for, that certainly former president barack obama is there in pittsburgh, pa, and he's speaking to the simple crowd trying to get the enthusiasm going for john fetterman and josh perot, and we are listening to that uncontrolled with for, you but in the meantime, if you take a look at the headlines, they seem to suggest a narrative that republicans are surging, and then a red wave is imminent, and in fact inevitable. but democratic pollster simon rosenberg is sounding the alarm about the polling, noting that of the roughly 40 polls taken
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in key battleground states, more than half are from republican firms or groups. rosenberg tweeted this. the red wave did not show up in the five health specials. it didn't show up in kansas. it isn't showing up in the early vote. it isn't showing up in the senate battlegrounds. it may come, but it's not here yet. back with me are adrienne elrod interest admire, and -- do you agree that the red wave is happening right now? do you see evidence is happening? yet >> -- you know i don't, but i think he's doing very well with status messaging as well the work he's doing with targets, which it looks at early voting numbers and figures out which ones are democrats which ones are republicans, and in the previous cycles. but one thing that we are seeing out there, and i think it's going to get more attention over the next few days, as what i'm calling paul packing, where you are seeing some of these right leaning republican polling firms,
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they're securing their polling results a little bit, so that they can drive of the average and skewing towards republicans. you are seeing this happen in particular in new york, which is rightfully so, pulling democrats, because it's a relatively blue state, and you are staying at these republican polling firms, driving up the polling, average and forcing more democrats to take them out of other states. this is a trend that we are seeing back in 2020, so these right leaning republican polling group to doing it more the cycle, but i think ultimately at the end of the, day this is definitely to be a close race, but i think patty hochul is going to win by a lot more than two or three points. i think all of this has to do with the fact that certain polling groups are skewing the results, and they can drive up the averages and drive up the cost of spinning the democrats are spinning in its state like new york. >> tara, let's look at another tweet right, now this is also from simon rosenberg, analyzing
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the early vote. with republicans down from 2020 in what is a very big early vote, and down from 2020 in most senate battleground pulling, top of a red wave is wildly premature. again, reflecting what we were talking about with adrian there. do you agree, and what is early voting telling, you what are you hearing? >> again, this goes into the horse race narrative that the media likes to do coming up in the run up to midterm election or a presidential. i think everyone needs to just take a breath here. early voting and voter behavior is really all over the place because what we are basing it on from 2018 to 2020 to now is all over the place because we had a pandemic in the middle of this. a lot of states change the way in which you vote, voter behavior, republicans used to have no problem with early voting or then they completely flipped on the heads. now we see democrats who are the majority of early voting in
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some of the states, but we have to pay attention i think more importantly to what happens on election night, and these closer races, and what goes on some of these closer places like nevada, arizona, georgia, where we know -- we may not know the results this night. we need to prepare people to be patient, and to know that the system will in fact work. we already know that republicans are gearing up to start screaming about election fraud because they had been setting this up. this narrative with people packing is a good term, but this poll packing tactic is all part of the contacts to set it up so that they can question election results and they are close and they lose. that is something that you need to be prepared for, not only in the media, but also for on the ground, out there are election lawyers and election watchers who are reassuring people that their elections are free and fair, and that is what we need to be contentious to right now and not get caught up in this narrative that republicans are
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setting. >> we made very good points, both of you in fact, which is where we had to run for the bulk of a half an hour, ladies, thank you so much. good to see you adrienne and tara. and our next, our i'm glad to talk with michael moore and ask him what he thinks will happen on tuesday, why he's optimistic, michael joining at one eastern. in the meantime, we are going to check on the georgia senate race next, and later the long way to tally the vote, can it be streamlined? be streamlined free monsters, free bosses, any footlong for free! this guy loves a great offer. so let's see some hustle! are you tired of clean clothes that just don't smell clean? free monsters, free bosses, any footlong for free! downy unstopables in-wash scent boosters keep your laundry smelling fresh waaaay longer than detergent alone. if you want laundry to smell fresh for weeks, make sure you have downy unstopables in-wash scent boosters.
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locked in a dead heat with incumbent democrat roy fail warnock. in the georgia governor's race, incumbent brian kemp's leading democratic challenger stacey abrams in a virtual rematch there, and let's go to nbc's ellison barber joining us from athens, georgia. alison, what are you seeing there for today, and i'm glad you're outside, because last hour you talk about herschel walker, who was in the crowd there, and so what say you? >> no more whispering. now i can talk as loud as i would like. we've been on the campaign trail with both senate candidates, herschel walker here in athens, georgia today, and tomorrow his opponent incumbent democratic senator raphael warnock will be in his hometown of savannah, georgia. we have spent a lot of time talking to voters in recent days, recent weeks about what is driving them to the polls, and what they think of the senate candidates. for many republican voters, they say they're voting because they want to see some sort of change in washington d.c.. for many democratic voters, they say they believe that
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democracy is on the ballot and character, to listen. >> herschel walker has no experience, but in the end, i'm looking at a change in washington, and to make a change, we need a republican senate, senator, and that is why i voted for herschel walker. >> it's very disheartening to see the people are voting like this is a football game, and this is not a football game. this is our lives we are talking about. i am disappointed. >> you, now we think of georgia, we talk about georgia as a swing state now, but when we look at the senate race, it is just a dead heat with neither candidate passing the necessary 50% threshold in polling at least to avoid a december runoff. one interesting question, chuck todd asked me the other day, was whether or not georgia is truly a swing state or if it is just a reflection of how divided we are as a nation, and talking to voters, we don't
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find a whole lot of people that are still debating or considering who they are going to vote for. a lot of people seem very set in the polls. they really have not moved on a whole of in the senate race. alex? >> which means it's a very good question that chuck todd asked, you thank you for the answer to both of, us i appreciate, that alison barber. obviously the midterms will be dominating our coverage of the last few days, including tomorrow night at seven eastern, in elections preview with ali velshi and jonathan capehart, along with alicia menendez and -- and that will be followed by a morning joe special at nine eastern and then ten, filled report with paula ramos, that includes a lot of the issues most critical to latinos. oh and a tangled web that they weave, the long way for voters in how it might give conspiracy theorists a chance to spread a new big lie. new big lie. ...that's why qulipta® helps what's going on inside. qulipta® gets right to work. in a 3-month study, qulipta® significantly reduced monthly migraine days... ...and the majority of people reduced them by 50 to 100%.
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speaking publicly for the first time after last week's attack on her husband, paul. she spoke on camera yesterday to supporters and it came a week after police say that david to pay program to the pelosi san francisco, home attacking -- pelosi with a hammer and leaving with a fractured skull and other injuries. the speaker's husband was released from the hospital on thursday. >> thank, you thank you for your kind words, your prayers, and you're good wishes for paul.
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it's going to be a long haul, but he will be well. it's just so tragic how it happened. but nonetheless, we have to be optimistic. he is surrounded by family, and so that is a wonderful thing. >> plus, he also spoke about tuesday's election in that message, calling some of the close races winnable, because of the grassroots organizing. just three days to the midterms, new and growing concerns today about what might happen after the polls close. a internal bulletin has been sent to various federal agencies, warning of a heightened threat of domestic violent extremism in the coming weeks, and on wednesday, president biden expressed similar concerns, while expressing the current threats to democracy. >> and i stand here today, their candidates running for every level of office in america for governor, congress, attorney general, secretary of state, he won't commit, who will not commit to accepting the results of elections that
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they are running in. this is a path to chaos in america. >> joining me now is spencer overton, president of the joint center for political economic studies, also a professor at george washington law school, spencer, welcome to you. and we know that it's likely going to take several days before all of the results are in. could that leave room for conspiracy theorists, they could start spinning laws to discredit the election, is that what you expect? >> i, likes vote by mail ballots which take longer to count, because they will start counting them until election day. democrats are more likely to vote by mail than republicans, and we should not be surprised if on election night, meaning republicans have large leads, but those leads shrink by winds there as mail ballots are counted, and when that happens, we will see conspiracy theorists claiming that mail ballots are somehow tainted, we will see conservative groups try to pressure election officials, and filed lawsuits to throw out ballots, and alex,
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this is going to be a battle over whose votes get counted, and it could have a significant effect on which candidates win. >> i will ask you a question that actually avoided the answer to, which is, is there any way to streamline the counting of votes to avoid this altogether? >> there are some ways to do it, and the biggest issue in many states is that they don't want to count early votes early, and have the released get out, and then that affect people because they don't all need to go in, vote exactly. that is the reason why many states waited until election day to count the vote by mail ballots. >> it's, there are there certain elections that you expect to take longer to finalize? and can you get any idea of how long the timetable is going to take? >> certainly elections that are close, certainly elections where there are a lot of vote by mail issues, i think that
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one thing i am concerned about would be this notion of interference by poll monitors and other watchers. we have seen in arizona, in order that was issued and there is a -- these poll monitors could really issue these things into violence, we could see lines extended into longer as a result, into that is certainly a concern of mine. >> and let me pick up on, that because it was, or a federal judge issued that restraining order against election monitoring group after their so-called watchers, the reaches of standing by the drop box, as they were armed, they were wearing tactical gear, and what is your reaction to all of this. to this reality out there. >> as a part of their attack on vote by mail, conspiracy there's have start groups to so-called hunt people who they call mueller's into they argue are legally stuffing drop boxes with multiple ballots with absolutely no evidence.
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this can intimidate voters, and as you mentioned, the federal judge issued in order prohibiting one group from taking photos or videos of voters, from openly carrying firearms, from yelling at voters, this kind of intimidation alex does not just affect arizona, but it could discourage voters nationwide from participating. it is a issue. >> so as you know, there is growing concern about the future of our elections in general based on who wins the midterms. and here is an example. take a listen to the comment that was made by ten michaels, a gop candidate in the wisconsin governor's race. >> it's all about the acronyms. it's all about lgbtq and crt and blm. i just wanna go to work, raise my family, go to church on sunday, go to mike his ball game, and the democratic party doesn't care about any of that. republicans will never lose another election in wisconsin after i am elected governor. >> and for what is, worth he did try to walk back and clarify what he intended to say there, but he said that.
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and i got out there for a while at least. how significant will the midterm elections be on democracy in the 2024 elections? >> alex, this isn't just about wisconsin. trump advisor steve bannon another election deniers have pushed a national movement to take over the -- of elections. those candidates who, win whether they're governors, secretaries of state, or county election directors, they will likely in that new restrictions that make it harder to vote, give partisans were power over elections, it also in future elections, many election denier covid eight will certify election results only when they are -- when their favorite candidates when, and we can have a constitutional crisis in which a legitimately elected president does not assume office. right now, the most important action that people can take, it's not be intimidated, but to go to polls and vote. they have problems, call 866
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our vote, but going to vote is incredibly important at this juncture. >>, spencer i'm curious about this scenario. a long night, people staying, up people getting all anxious and wondering what is going to happen, and if their team, if you will, has one. what do you expect the day after. is that a day when all of this puts together and foments into potentially explosive behavior? do you worry about the day after the election? e >> i am concerned, especially if it is unclear who is controlling the senate and the house. i know that in a lot of close races, we are not going to know the outcome. just to give you a sense, in 2020, 58% of democrats voted by mail. it's about just gives you a slot of the magnitude of how many mail ballots there will be, and those will likely not be counted and could affect the outcome. and so we should just be patient, and take some time. >> spencer overton, thanks so
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much for the conversation, to come see me again. we will see you. thanks. more positive economic news for the biden administration this, week the latest in a report from the white house, but when it comes to inflation, this headline says it all. some companies raising prices, even after they have covered inflation related costs. is that the real story? corporate profit taking? we will get reaction next. such as heart disease, diabetes, being overweight, asthma, or smoking. even if symptoms feel mild, these factors can increase your risk of covid-19 turning severe. so, if you're at high risk and test positive, don't wait. ask your healthcare provider right away if an authorized oral treatment is right for you.
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president biden is heading to critical pennsylvania today to meet up with former president obama and rally with john fetterman. cuomo certainly hear about the economy after positive jobs report yesterday, but like everything with our, economy is a mixed bag once you dive into the numbers. nbc news white house correspondent monica alba has the latest for us, hi monica. >> the economy is a top priority for most americans, this election season, with the
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concerns about jobs inflation driving a lot of ballot box decisions. getting both parties to make pocketbook issues a key part of their final pitch to voters. >> we have a lot more to do. >> president biden arguing that he is best equipped to steer the economy through challenging times ahead. >> we've made a lot of progress of the last 20 months to build the economy from the bottom up in the middle out, instead of a trickle down economics that failed us the last 40 years. >> today some bright spots in the october jobs numbers, well acknowledging -- >> we also know folks are still struggling with inflation. it's our number one priority. >> the report itself is a mixed bag, with the u.s. adding 261 jobs last month, stronger than experts expected. but marking the slowest pace payroll gains since december 2020, as unemployment clocked in at 3.7%, up slightly from 3.5%. overall, the white house encourage by the resilient labor market. >> as president, i will not accept the argument that says
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that our problem is that too many americans are finding good jobs. >> sox rallied on friday after the news. wall street remains concerned about future interest rate hikes, echoed by republicans. >> the lead on, this american people now see what evidence been money that you don't, have when you throw a trillion dollars into the, economy you get inflation. >> or seizing on high inflation ahead of the midterms and slamming the president for his handling of the economy since taking office. >> people have a decision to make. they want to stay on the same path of inflation, gas prices rising, and the cost of living as we go to the grocery store, or are you on a new path in a new direction? >> and, alex we know when, pulled the economy is a top priority for most americans this election season. with concerns about jobs inflation driving a lot of these ballot boxes asians, something that president biden talking about a lot of mccain pan, trial and will could you do so in pennsylvania tonight as former president obama and in new york tomorrow. how?
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>> open my, and thank you so much monica. the economy is on most minds, in fact, here's tuesday's election as the new york times points out. officials at the federal service all have been closely watching the labor market to assess whether they're aggressive efforts to rein in inflation by raising interest rates are working. joining me now, gina -- federals irvine economy reporter for the new york times. welcome, let's get into this year, because after the fourth straight three quarters point rate hike, and we can't go without saying six overall this year, kind of painful. what is the federal reserve washing for in the labor market. what is the indication that raising interest rates is working. >> i think they're really watching two things. the first is for a slowdown and hiring, and a slowdown in wage increases. both of which have kind of started to materialize, but which had not really come in the kind of pace in magnitude that i think the central banks are looking for. i think the other thing the fed officials are watching for is a real pullback in demand and something that customers and consumers are really just not
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ruling to spend money on, as prices continue to increase. but there i think we've had a much more mixed picture. there have been some science of consumers pulling back from big ticket items, and most notably, houses. and i think there are much fewer signs of they're pulling back from services like vacations, hotels, things like that. it is very complicated juncture for the fed as they try to assess what to do next. >> so i guess i will ask you. what will they consider? how do they go about deciding whether they raise rates again, because we know the economy does not turn around on a dime. are you willing to let time baked the cake, if you, we'll see how much it rises? >> you, know i think what we have seen from the, fed and certainly what we heard this, week is that they think they are in this new moment with interest rate policies, where they were to slow down a little bit on these rate increases, and they're preparing to kind of file back from those big 75 --
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point moves that you previously mentioned. and the idea there is that if you move a little bit more, slowly you give it more time. you have the economy to sort of address, and you can take a step back and see what is happening. but at the same time, they are very cognizant that inflation has been, sticky and they're very worried that inflation will become an entrenched part of the economy, and so they are also at the same time protecting that they are going to raise rates even for the previously planned to. it's more slower, path but a more aggressive one at the end of the day. >> i'm sure you're familiar with what senator elizabeth warren to this week, which was leading nearly a dozen democratic lawmakers in writing -- in saying that he's raising rates and alarming pace. he also accused abated the disregard of the lives of millions of working americans. these lawmakers are worried the 20 retiring to damage the overall economy. is there a chance of that happening? >> that is kind of the design. the idea is that when you raise interest, rates you slow down, demand you slow down the job market, employees, wage growth
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slows, and that painful adjustment process, as painful as it, is allows the economy to come back into balance, and then inflation comes down. nobody disputes the idea that this is going to be a unpleasant process. but officials think they hope that it won't be horribly painful. but it probably is going to incur some amount of economic damage. >> what i tease for the segment, as well it is the new report of your colleagues at the new york times this week which says that food prices soar, and so do companies profits. they write, some companies restaurants have continued to raise prices on consumers even after their own inflation related costs has been covered. is this evidence that there is much more than just market forces at play? i will point to consumers stop tolerating the price increases? >> i actually think this is evidence. this is a consistent trend that we've seen across actors. it's not just food, but we've seen it in the auto market has
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been very clear example, auto companies have raid prices by a lot more than across of increased. you see it and a lot of different service industries as well. i think that it actually is a reflection of market forces more than anything. what we've seen from these companies is that they are seeing customers that are trying away from purchasing, even as prices increase. and obviously, corporations at the end of the day or to make money, and so they see this opportunity to make a lot of money and the sort of inflationary moment by pushing up prices by more than their costs have jumped. i think that the idea is that if the economy, slows customers are going to be less willing to tolerate those big price increases. and that means to stop that profit taking. but for, now we have not seen clear signs that it's happening. >> of course, gina's my, like thank you so much for the, chat looking for to seeing you again. he said he might do, it nbc news has confirmed 40 mighty mouse, but what about all of those investigations? could they keep trump from running? we have some answers on that ahead. plus, michael more on why he has a good feeling about the
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