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[inaudible] it's menendez, all she will be with you from 7 pm eastern for a special two hour look at matt dashed election day. that is where we begin this hour, with the question of whether american democracy [inaudible] in two days time, the biggest test yet amidst great amid -- election day is just the next three days. think again. also tonight, young voters [inaudible] now eligible voters this time around. at democracies peril. actress sofia busch is live tonight to reproductive rights and why it is nonsense to say this election is between the economy. this moment, she says, is nothing short of a national emergency. good evening, i'm mehdi hasan. this is perilous and precarious time for american democracy. on the ballot in these critical

midterm elections. of the weekend, it kisses like wisconsin, final early voters were casting their ballots. election day is now less than two days away. so, tonight, i want you to picture the scene as we take you to a post midterm future. it's january the 6th, 2025. i know you know what that means. codified -- congress to be in session to count the electoral college votes to president united states. something that used to happen as a matter of course in this country, a rubberstamp, essentially. [inaudible] a layup. golfers would call a gimme and of -- at the hundred 19 congress, four years on from an insurrection, i want you to mention that republicans now control both the house and the senate. and they control and the red

wave of november 2022 and kept hold of them in november 2024. difficult to ambition. in the presidential election stigma, joe biden faced off against donald trump again attract again. trump by several million. when the electric terrell college by healthy margins, again. now, in january 2025, adding two months since biden's reelection victory, there is been chaos in states. in pennsylvania, where biden won again, republican nominate in 2022, a guy that was at the capitol in january -- he was rejected by pennsylvania, claiming without evidence, massive election fraud. signed off on his own slate of pro trump elections for a 16. meanwhile, michigan, who's --

denying the results of the 2020 election but was still elected to office back in the 2022 midterms. they rejected the will to d.c.. and wisconsin, elected governor in 2022, after the youngkin academy to become a republican candidate. in 2025, refusing to certify the win for biden and a pro trump [inaudible] prior to his victory of 2022, sudden is recording released by the republican accountability project, he said that allowed, didn't he? >> republicans will never lose another election wisconsin after i'm elected governor. so, to repeat, imagine. it's genius, extra to 25. he socked his electoral college vote to michigan. from pennsylvania.

the result is shockingly, june of 69 votes for biden. tonight 69 for trump. it's a tie. under the child amendment, it goes to the house of representatives, and house delegations. speaker of the house and is going vote to return trump to the white house. it doesn't matter that joe biden, a democrat, won the popular vote and electoral vote, both by comfortable margins. pushed by election denying [inaudible] put trump back in the oval office. because of what happens at the ballot box, this coming tuesday at the 2022 midterm elections. you might say that the scenario of a line is not going to happen. only once is the 12 minute was passed in 1824. even if the republicans and the house senate on tuesday would have dug mastriano and michaels with governor manchin in the

coming week -- is going to pass and senate in the coming months. it has, 15 republican spots. it can open the senate filibuster. that act, say governors, could prevent the government from blocking the will of the people in their state. people in -- handpicked slates of electors to d. c.. that sets up a panel of federal judges who could -- to the supreme court. yes. the supreme court with six conservative justices on it. three of whom are on the bush team in 2000 when the then supreme court handed the presidency to w and three of them were, of course, trump appointees. let's assume the electoral -- in the coming months. let's assume the supreme court prevents a governor mastery ono or a governor michaels from ignoring the will of pennsylvanians or wisconsin nights, two big assumptions. we are still not out of the woods. the result of the election on tuesday could determine the outcome of the 2024 presidential election and the future of american democracy. how? simple.

on january the 6th 2021, only hours after yelling at trump on the phone that the insurrection were trying to kill him, -- voted to overturn the election. mccarthy will not carry on as if trump had done nothing wrong that day and voted to give him another four years in the white house. it didn't work then because the republicans were the minority in 2021. this tuesday, if the vote goes their way, they become the majority in the house in the next congress. a majority that would certainly hold on to november 2024. if those republicans, as a minority in the house, are willing to try to overturn the election results in arizona and pennsylvania, january the 6th 2021, do you think they won't try to do it if they are the majority come january the 6th 2025? when mccarthy has the speakers

gavel in his hand? really? you think come january 2025 a republican controlled senate will contain a whole new cast of gop candidates like herschel walker, j. d. vance, dan boulder, mehmet oz, election deniers, trump lawyers, it's not going to consider overturning a -- swing state that a governor is screaming for? seriously? >> i can guarantee joe biden will -- people think that he -- >> i signed a letter with 120 generals and admirals saying trump won the election. damn it, i stand by it. >> yes or no simply, do you feel the election was stolen? >> yeah, i do. >> look. this picture i'm painting for you isn't hyperbole or fiction or fantasy. it could happen. it's possible. unlikely, yes. but far from impossible or implausible, sadly. not based on what we've seen in recent years, more importantly recent weeks. it's why so many of us are saying tuesday could be the last time you vote in a free and fair election in the united

states. the last time your vote actually matters and is respected. the 2022 midterms could determine not just the makeup of the next congress and the occupants of governors mansions across the country, but also the winner of the 2024 presidential election. >> the events of january 6th -- a mob stormed the u.s. capitol. candidates running at every level of office in america for governor, congress, attorney general, secretary of state, who won't commit, they will not commit accepting the results of an election they are running in. it's unprecedented. it's unlawful. it's an american. i've said before, you can't love your country only you win. >> if republican election deniers at state and federal win enough seats season

f-crucial posts, whether governor of michigan, speaker of the house in washington, d. c., they will have the power to install a president. not elect a president, install a president in january 2025. that person's name will almost certainly be donald j trump. joining me now to discuss, the democracy crisis in tuesday's midterms could bring about, our elections coach, presidential historian, new york times bestselling author, writer and author and columnist for the daily beast -- staff writer at the atlantic. a year ago, he published a key headline, trump's next coup has already begun. thank you all for joining me. let me start with, you barked. you wrote in the atlantic piece last year the perspective i just described in my introduction is not remote. people with the motive to make it happen are manufacturing the means, given the opportunity they will act, they are acting already. midterms are a big part of that, aren't they? >> --

it's not so much congress or the house will be very important. as the state offices, the state races -- secretary of state in most dates is responsible for certifying and refereeing the election. they have somebody with the power to do that, use it to subvert the actual results is catastrophic. we are simply not sure as a country how to handle that. >> catastrophic is indeed the right word. elections people like me keep saying these are the most important in terms of our lifetime, if not ever. you are the historian. is that fair? is that true? is that hyperbole? >> that is quite true. if i look at the recent past, when thinking about elections, with this one, -- [inaudible]

[inaudible] into a -- the confederacy. they tried to restrict rights. that was a moment in which the country had to react. or are they going to let a war that they had fought before nothing? or were they going to react? it was galvanizing. it was sweeping. we have to consider that a viable example that might inspire us. otherwise, it does look quite bleak. >> a very good fight. given how much is at stake in terms of a republican anti-democratic takeover of congress, the governors mentions, how do democrats make the threat clear and urgent to the voters?

joe biden gave a good speech on democracy. was that enough on its own? >> a little too late i would say. oftentimes, what we have said on your show's democrats bring a pencil to a knife fight. mitch mcconnell and republicans bring a bazooka. i'm glad joe biden had that televised speech where he called mega sme fascist movement. he amplify that rhetoric in the past two weeks between now and the final run. he talked about the threat to democracy, the threats of voting rights. however, this should have been the preeminent, if you will, urgent message for the past two years. i'm old enough to remember the 2020 violent insurrection inspired by trump and orchestrated by right-wing allies. and that insurrection, the rnc says was done by ordinary -- legitimate political discourse. there were majority of republicans running right now believe in the big lie. which means election deniers are going to potentially win elections. how does a democracy survive

when one of the parties hijacked by radicalized, weaponized movements that believes in the big lie and white supremacist -- that they will not concede elections they've lost and their model is viktor orban of hungry who installed and authoritarian right-wing government which, by the way, republicans have openly said that model for the united states. i know you've had these debates before. it's fascism, is it authoritarianism? what really is fascism? i don't care what your definition is, look at people literally and seriously and take them at their work. they are saying they will take power and maintain power forever. that is fascism. listening to joshua pirro, the democrat in pennsylvania. >> if you don't think like doug mastriano, if you don't look like him, if you don't vote like him, if you don't worship like him, if you don't marry like him, you don't care in his pennsylvania.

you know how i know that? because i know where he was on january this six. >> is that the right way to take on a mash tree are no, what is being the best within, to take on the nationalists -- especially christian nationalists on the right? >> if we look at george washington as our example, he had absolutely [inaudible] he sent out a huge [inaudible] >> it's our democracy is threaten then you should react as they did. and, george washington said after his second term that he left voluntarily, he had given up power before, after the revolution. he made a warning that had come

true. over the last four or past years. which is that if we simply let our own interest, if we let an principle met, on principle men, who carry nothing for any sort of national unity that rather just want to retain power that we will have quality in the same type of day can chaos that we have viewed with the british that we blamed parliament for. and we deserve what had occurred we would be there for another revolution. >> we certainly will deserve it. but people struggle to take the grant of democracy seriously. because they think political violence on things that are happening in faraway countries beyond the republic, not here, not america, how do you persuade people that the nightmare scenario in 2024 is

in farfetched. it isn't a movie storyline that could very well be [inaudible] on tuesday. i think that it's a matter of -- , sorry that was for alex there bart. >> sorry -- >> i think that we need more and better journalism for one thing. i mean we need to be going out to the states and doing gradual reporting on what the actual plans are. the thing that worries me more than political violence is political subversion that people who have lawful access to power, who are, for example the secretary of state for the county election clerks but do not intend to carry out the responsibilities, who are intent on electing trump, intent on calling vote for biden, fraudulent.

and -- whether it happens or not. and those were real risks, and yes, the outcome of this election will have a very [inaudible] >> have a listen to donald trump speaking in pennsylvania. we have the clip, have a listen. >> i have a great relationship with president xi, he is my president for life. he is with -- well, he doesn't hide his envy for shoes has the life stay -- this is the defect of the gop on the major election, basically, bringing provenance on authoritarian dictatorship. >> this is the figurehead of the party that says for freedom and liberty, he praises saudi arabia, of murder in a bertrand a tyrant. he loves the orban of hungry. he loves, loves himself now.

president xi, who, by all accounts will become an authoritarian dictator of china. and, so that gives you the tell that this -- you should take them literally and seriously. and the thing that i want to say for americans because you have to vote but then come wednesday regardless of the result, i want everyone who's listening to know that we are dealing with the radicalized, weaponized, right wing movement. they will not stop like peace and development. they are organized, they are going to take them literally and seriously. the one positive that we have is that we have the numbers. the majority have the numbers so we have to organize a local level and we have to take this threat on. it is a fascist threat, take them literally, take them seriously, look at their actions listen to the words and either candidates, they are telling you the playbook. >> we take them very seriously on the show, we will do that with the entirety of this hour. we will leave this discussion, here -- thank you all, appreciated. >> next, we know that they have

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day, and already more than 41 million americans a voted. 6% of them are young voters, age 18 to 29. according to nbc early track of. for years, the young voters have said that they do not vote. they cannot be bothered. but now, this government of democracies peril take the battleground state for example --

-- also remember it was young voters who are vital to democratic victories in the last two elections. and, to putting joe biden in the white house. they report 64% of young voters cast a ballot in 2020. up tempers and from previous presidential elections. and, before, that 11% more voters turned up in 2018 to give them across their blood-rate and control of the house in donald trump's final two years in office. the data isn't convincing enough, look at what's happening on the ground and one of the red estates in america today. check out this video from this past that was posted online by the group next-gen a merica showing young people lined, up waiting to vote in austin, texas. this was a day later on friday which was the last day of in person early voting in texas. that line of young foals hurt is doubling in just the days time. the question, before us though, what will this mean on tuesday night for the overall results? let's ask christina simpson

ramirez, president of nextgen a merica, the nation's largest youth voting organization. thank you so much for coming back on the show. so far, how are early voting numbers for young voters comparing to 2018 and 2020 in your view? >> well, we know that there's 4 million young people who have already voted during only vote. so, those numbers are down from 20 teen. , and young voters at the generators -- closest to election day. and, there has been a huge turn of young people who have registered. and, especially young women who have registered across the country. far outpacing young men, posting the decision to roll about the engagement on. we're gonna be pushing, all the way to election day to make sure that young people come out and vote in fact in philadelphia right now we have contacted nine out of ten eligible young voters, because here in pennsylvania, the vote for american democracy is really coming down for the wire whether the democracy will continue for the republicans taking power. >> and, texas, your home state,

has become ground zero for kind of republicans in the many ways. they issued the voting rights on abortion and so. what are you hearing from the young texan's, for example, about what's wanting them to get out and vote. >> you know my state texas largest battleground state and we also happen to be one of the youngest. utah and alaska were seen lined with people outside of campuses wanting to vote. the special vote in 2018 to 71% of the youth vote. both republicans have beaten it harder in our states to vote. they are doing everything that they can to keep young people, especially young people of color in our state voting. and, that is why the work that we are doing is critical. because we're trying to get young votes out and wanting to know when, where, and how to vote because many of these votes are persons that are oftentimes -- and, christina usually quote that no past of the four years have been flushing for people. especially to see their vote

evolved into transformation or policy however despite relays and legislation, the powerful of a growing youth vote have helped voters intention, and when gains on climate action, -- gun control, and student loan debt. so, question for you, how is the biden administration? especially on the issues that you have mentioned done enough in your view to motivate, inspire, and energize younger voters and get them up to the polls? >> you, know i think utah has told us about how people think the young people are motivated. this is actually the most politically and progressive generation in the history of young people. and, you have huge turnout for the last election. young people are turning out to defeat fascism, they're voting against republicans and donald trump. they are voting for a vision of our country that is more fair, more adjust, more inclusive, and the government that will truly represent all. and, where at a rally here in philadelphia where the most popular young elected officials, again, such as bernie sanders

and our young people -- a record breaking news for gun safety legislation. it gives them a cancellation, it gives you the largest investment by any country on the planet to tackle the climate crisis and it's giving a long overdue -- young people have a lot more that they want to achieve and so we are not finished. we are just getting started. and we have to make sure that we all come out and vote this election. >> quick, last question. you mentioned bernie sanders. one of the oldest members of the senate. new young voters in this country, what about his message or his style of politics resonate for the young voters? >> you, know bernie is authentic. he has also centered old progressive change. a lot of young people, while they overwhelmingly vote for democrats, in this, election it would be like the young voters are breaking over for democrats. they want policy change on the issue. they see themselves as an independent, again, as an overwhelmingly voting for democrats. and, bernie hasn't did many of

the issues that one people had long been talking about for the democratic party. raising minimum wage to -- canceling student debt, decriminalizing marijuana. these are the things that bernie has long been -- and it's so engaged and motivated. >> christina simpson ramirez, we have to leave it at that, thank you so much for your time. appreciate it. >> thank you. >> next, there is a good chance that we will not know all the election results on tuesday night. and, guess what, that's okay. i'll explain why late results do not mean rigged election and why also there's a list of republicans who -- cory coffin this year with the headlines. hello, cory. >> good evening, here's -- officials have confirmed a second that link to the tornado that tore through texas, oklahoma and arkansas on friday. another nine people were injured and storms have also destroyed over 150 homes and businesses. and, now philadelphia neighborhood on saturday night leaving a recent --

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electoral fraud, political corruption. now, that is total nonsense, of course. but it goes back to donald trump, on election night, 2020 saying this. >> we don't want them to find any ballots and -- at 4:00 in the morning, and add them to the list. >> today, you have trump loyalists like former acting director of intelligence, richard cornell, often described as a twitter troll, going viral with ridiculous tweets like this one. quote, any state which doesn't count all the votes and announce the winner, tuesday night, is incompetent. here's the thing, not only as a state which doesn't do that not necessarily incompetent, but it might very well be a state where the republican controlled legislator. the mail-in ballots have to be processed, envelope soap, and signatures verified, before then tabulated, carried, and counted. and one of the main reasons why it takes so long to dwell that with mail-in ballots in the key swing states is because republican lawmakers in those

states have make sure that is the case. in pennsylvania, for example, a state law passed unanimously by republican-led general assembly, in march 2020, prevent election officials from even opening mail-in ballots until 7 am on election night. the same thing in swing state, wisconsin. in fact, in march, a bipartisan that would've allowed a local electorate to begin the county absentee ballots a day earlier, that in the republican controlled state senate. and, in swing states, they report that officials can start processing just two days before this means most results being reported from the states on election that will be in person voting on election days or during the early voting period. right. it doesn't have to be this way. 38 states, including red state texas and florida, allow election officials to process mobilize prior to the election. ten states, one in five, allow the processing and counting up mail-in ballots to begin before election day. but, not in michigan wisconsin

or pennsylvania. so, the truth, this if republicans in those swing states really wanted a results they'd be pushing for that to happen. but they are not. they are blocking. it went morning about -- this adjusted evidence of either incompetence or election fraud. but, at the same time, they guarantee that any measure can speed up the processing of those mail ballots. they just killed in the state legislation that they control. that is not just dishonest on their part. it is straight-up gaslighting. remember that on tuesday night. coming up next, actress and activist sofia virtue on american's -- reproductive right. and, don't forget, you can listen for the mehdi hasan show anytime free were you will [inaudible] ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ liberty mutual! they customize your home insurance...

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are heading to the polls without a constitutional protection guaranteeing reproductive freedom. the renewed side, this, year has the right to choose a stalled a part of the democratic base, especially young women. the new nbc news poll, found abortion is among the top five issues that women care about knows. about casting a ballot in the midterms. and, the recent kaiser family foundation service found the supreme court ruling, overturned roe have made 50% of their motivated to cast the ballot in tuesday's election. and, yet, were constantly told that democrats should focus more on the economy, less on abortion. is that related cases? let's ask actress and activist sofia -- who joins me now, sophia, thank you so much for coming back on the show. on the eve of these midterms, some say that the democrats campaign too much on abortion, and not the economy. some say that they didn't campaign hard enough on abortion. where do you stand on all of this? i mean, we talk about kitchen table issues, shouldn't abortion be part of that? >> >> i don't know about anyone

else but i can't hear sofia. >> look at, that it's been three years and -- >> even top actresses an artist need to get the [inaudible] >> what are you going to do. i was going to say that i want to thank you so much for having me back on today. it is a farce that abortion is not an economic issue. when we talk about the ability to participate, in the economy, in the workforce to plan the ability to make money for yourself and your family, that is an economic issue. women are forced to carry on wanted pregnancies to term. they are often forced to drop out of school. they are often forced to leave their jobs. and, we're not even getting into the issue of whether or not we are discussing -- pregnancy, they acted though as if abortion is not the economic, issue and the act of pregnancy

is not a life-threatening condition. and those are both infected, and absolutely, they both affect not just those who might carry a pregnancy but everyone in our lives. >> so, you wrote a column, recently, for -- our right to reproductive choices is fundamental to our democracy. so much so that one of the societal changes that signified a backsliding democracy, one of the surefire things that happened anywhere, one a qualities being shipped away is the rollback of the right women and particularly those relating to the economy, without reproductive choice we have no autonomy. and so, josh mastriano, -- josh shapiro, rather, running again dot -- don mastriano, he made that point last night. you cannot be the party of freedom if you are taking freedom away from women, can you? voting rights, and abortion rights intertwined. >> absolutely, and the fact about the backside in democracy actually comes from the

international institute for democracy and electoral assistance. and one of the feelings that they speak about is that when our country begins going into authoritarianism you see women 's rights accelerating. and this is the first time in history that we have had our supreme court, that is meant to be the highest court in the land, remove right from americans. and you start hearing the horror stories from a ten year old ray the cooked a -- rip victim in ohio principles of travel for care. a little girl who has not just -- -- an anyone who's either been through a sexual assault, understands that you cannot understand a person, and compound their trauma. this is a moral issue and it's also an issue of medical safety. when you see this rollback, you curve women's rights

accelerating around the country, you see women sharing stories about finding out that there is an anomaly in an viable pregnancy. it is terminal. and, many women are being forced to carry dying babies to go septic. everyone's their lives. there are women sending stories to those of us working on this issue, talking about how they have been brought up for so long with these trigger bands that, their doctors are trying to figure out if their lot to provide, care i mean those women almost died. we are acting as though this is normal. this is not normal. >> no, nothing about that is normal. you just painted a picture though, about how bad things already, are and how things are going to get four women's, rights abortion rights. it built a bigger picture for me. how bad are things going to get for american democracy as a whole? >> i mean, it's a terrifying time we are really on the bench,

there are a lot of people who have been sounding the alarm for years about this growing autocratic movement. and it's not just happening here, it's happening around the world and then we saw people marching to not seize this morning. it's horrifying what you see happening around the world the nationalism in the group and what that does is that it continues to hold and breed power for people who do not like the idea of the quality. there's not a lot of people who like the idea to call their family on their own term. so when you talk about what this means for democracy as a whole. you can really see that the issues are related. you can see how those empower want to hold it and want to withhold it from so many -- from folks like you, from folks like me. and, we've got people, we've mentioned this early on the show saying that remember we were talking about too much

about abortion? we should be talking more about the economy. well what we're talking about is democracy itself surviving. >> yes. >> and, again you can't make the mistake that these are not interconnected issues, for example the former guy who runs autocracy and who wanted to turn america into his own personal oligarchy, -- mitch mcconnell doing that work and some are held. these are our deficits, anywhere for the presidency. dozens who went under every single year of trump and they cut the 3.2 trillion dollars in tax for rich people that can certainly afford to pay their taxes and what we feel on the biden administration is that the deficit is just by one person, a trillion dollar. so that, is the largest drop in the deficit. . so, democrats are good for the economy. democrats are doing the work, that they love for whatever reason to say that we are not. >> yes.

>> and we are arguing that republicans are going to fix the economy, and maybe democracy -- the republicans are the ones who voted against lauren gas prices, but also in that -- >> sofia? >> so, democracy doesn't surprise -- survive on this issues, we are going to lose it all. >> we are at of time but just listening to you -- >> know -- >> i should put out, more and i wonder when will get times within the next midterm election, you'll be running for office yourself. sophia, we will have to leave it there, thank you so much for your time, all the pleasure. >> all right, it makes sense. everybody go vote. >> everybody go vote, next, democrats and republicans make an excellent argument weather sofia -- on the campaign trail, what are the americans to, vote and the others are warning about the perils of plant base [inaudible] ? stick around, i'll explain what

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and now, it is a final sprint to the finish, at stake, control of the house and senate. and, the future of president biden's agenda. the issue starting the vote, abortion, right crime, the economy. and, just how much power trump republicans wheeled over the gop. in many ways, democracy, itself, is on the ballot with election deniers and multiple states poised to take control over how the next presidential race is determined. we'll dig into all of it with reports from key battlegrounds, within all start political panel. along with a, joe willie, and me we have nbc news national affair analysts and executive and are there, john heilemann. he is co-host of showtime, the circuit. former u.s. senator, now an nbc news an msnbc political analyst, clarence mccaskill, the host of msnbc's politicsnation and president of the national action work reverend al

sharpton. and former white house press secretary, jen psaki, she is now an msnbc host and former republican -- carlos carrillo of florida. he's an msnbc political contributor. good to have you all with us this special hour. >> so, if you want good news i've god post for you. if you want bad news, i can show you -- >> i'll show you. >> i remember on friday, there were four polls released in the georgia senate campaign alone. two of them said one was going to win it, too said walker was going to win. if you look at all of these races, the one thing that they all seem to have in common is the tightening at the end. i have more good news for you, nothing you say and no poll will matter in about 36 hours from now. it's gonna start with a ton of early voting, already. we're seeing record numbers in places like georgia. that's great news wherever you are. whatever side of the aisle where you are on. but now, the voters, we get to stop talking in a couple of

days here at the voters get to go and decide and all of the production, all of the, guessing all of the reading on tv leaves goes to the wayside. >> there's so much at stake though, so much. yes, why don't you set it up for us. that the year and throughout the election. where are we right now on the eve of this monumental election? >> i would say, here are some things that i think about what is voters consensus. one of them is that republicans are probably gonna get a pretty good night. and what that is defined as, another, question altogether i think that there's a broad consensus that in the period after labor day and particularly in the month of october, and -- it's not about horses about asking what they care about in what we hear. should be run around and talk to people is that the issues that have shifted appreciably

in the republicans favor. so the economy and crime became the dominant issue from what it had to do republicans making an issue out of crime and what it had to do with the reality of inflation. rising interest rates, other things sort of made the economy predominant after it kind of faded, a little bit at the end of the summer, when it looked like things are getting better. and those things have kind of put republicans on the march. one of the data in the polls, here's the data that allowed people -- were the party spending money? and that's the other thing that you've seen in the last couple of weeks. you've seen republicans feeling increasingly confident. whether the right or wrong, we don't know. but they are confident spending money to fight in this place like california and in districts of joe biden winning by ten points or talk. points and 15. points districts that should not have been competitive and did not. look competitive three months ago. they are not out there fighting the races in the house where, i

think most people can see that republicans are gonna take control of the house. the senate, still i, think is a coin flip and that's a question about a lot of this polling. because, people think republicans can end up with 53 or 54 seats. and those people think democrats can pick up a cedar. to buy the weight of conventional, wisdom towards republican, i don't think anybody would be surprised. nobody's paying attention. we'll be surprised to john fetterman, raphael warnock, and katherine cortez all managed to win in those three races that are so essential to the outcome of the senate. so, you know, i really think that that close-up forever idea reasons, that we get into, we are very hard to predict at this hour. they're all very pride in the year and it seems to be -- is that i wanted to point more. jeanette tips over this, hear what you would think it would, historically then republicans are gonna win big in the house and do very well in the senate. is, so the democrats weigh their out of reasons that think that it could get to the

democrats way and you are suddenly looking at, what i, think any democrat would've taken any history, and given trend just six months ago. so, it really could go either way. john was talking about a wee set of issues. and that inflation, the economy, crime in october we really have come to the forefront. you have been trying to warn us on set here. the when you go, you go to churches, we're going to hear crime all the time. >> i'm hearing crime everywhere. i've gone to chicago, but i've gone to ohio, i've gone to pennsylvania and i've gone to florida and georgia. and every -- in each one of the stops whether it was a civil rights rally or a voter rights rally or a church the people say to me, yeah but why aren't we talking more about crime? people are afraid and you can

say, in some areas will the data doesn't support that as much as they think. if people feel threatened, you cannot tell me if i'm afraid, don't be afraid. you've got to answer what i'm afraid of. and, when you look at the rising amount of gun violence, that is something you must address. i think that is something that -- and, for the first time, in all the years that i've been on politics nation i'm gonna disagree with really. i don't think we'll be finished talking 36 hours. clearly, we're gonna be talking about this -- >> the voters get to do the talking, but you're, right we are going to be talking for a couple of days. the people are counting the mail-in voids, on the morning of election day which opens up to a lot of kind of the nonsense that we saw in 2020. so it could be a long night, carlos, it could be a long night in arizona, you could go right down the list. as john said, accurately, i think most democrats can see privately that the house, if not gone, is pretty close to gone at this point.

so they're fighting for their lives staying down to the senate. >> right, and when you look at the senate, we were talking a little earlier about the hispanic vote. and what a difference that could make in some of the states like nevada, like georgia. we have begun to see a shift in the hispanic -- going back to 2020, certainly, in a very dramatic way. not a lot of an impact on control of the house. we had three latinos, republicans running in south texas that are making big names for themselves. it looks like they can all win. and, again, these are areas where democrats have typically held an advantage. but, going back to the senate, in states like nevada, there is a significant hispanic population that's been trending more towards republicans. and, in georgia, there's a growing hispanic population as well. -- >> those communities can be decisive. >> well, look, some people try to find specific policies. i don't think it has to do with any one specific policy. i think that it has to do with the way each party is

connecting culturally, or not with the hispanic community. and, i tell people, put yourself in the position of someone who came -- let's say, from central america 15 years ago, not they could vote for the first time, they left, they fled violence, they fled property, the worst conditions imaginable. they come to this country and they hear republicans saying this is the greatest country in the world, everyone can thrive here, everyone has a fair shot and they hear the left, the far left mostly saying that this country is deeply flawed. this is a country that's unfair, that doesn't treat people right. for a lot of hispanic immigrants, it is hard to understand that messaging from the left. and, i think that that has put them away from the democratic party, towards the republican party. and the repercussions are that are huge. because democrats said, for years, democratic is -- as the latino community grows it will be better let's be challenge now in a very obvious way. >> well there's something that you've said the whole show you always talk about latte liberals when you talk about lotus and you say a lot of

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i will be open to working with republicans to get things done, if you have ideas. or things we could do for the public. but, i -- don't i don't think that they will run away from their agenda or what the president has accomplished. and, i also need to on that trip picking a fight with the republicans. there are lots of options. social security is. one and, that fight, there are also some trump corporate tax that expire at the end of the year. and, they could also pick a fight about that. so, those are the things that we have to do in 36 hours, post election. >> he, john after the 2020 election, it seems that georgia and arizona were in the same column. these were red states that seem to be becoming more purple. and, even blue. much has changed over the past two years. but, i think what's so fascinating is looking at the republican parties in the state,

in georgia. you have people that stood up to donald trump, people who recorded phone conversations, people who had to testify that he tried to steal the election. and, in arizona, where you spent a good bit of time, you had republicans said the most extreme maga -- i don't know what you call them. and, my gosh, we always overstate things. not you, but we always seem to overstate things. but, for me, it's not hyperbolic to say that, in the state of arizona specifically, democracy and very -- ballots are on the ballot because it seems all the republican state like candidates are election deniers. >> it doesn't seem like it is it, joe. i mean, we just circus stop, earlier this run that the

pileup, which was stated in, all and it has been the senate -- for governor and the state for canada 20 general and pretty much all of the republicans are a little weaker on the election denialism but no one down there no one who is running for statewide office in arizona from the republican side is not an election ally denier and it is terrifying. i hope -- --

but on the capitol hill, on january, six they, said pretty much that they're not going to certify election that doesn't turn up the way for tonight, this is one of your causes that you've been rightly ringing the bell on people said. this, but he's like flagrant, right? arizona was a state, in 2020 that hadn't been covered by -- -- >>, and as i, say right now, it's a coin flip that we could argue that those two, arizona i would say robert draper wrote about the conspiracy --

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precursors to expected election tension in 2024. >> no words, no words because he will be back. >> that key being donald trump. he has continued to perpetuate broad denialism of republicans nationwide, that he actually did not lose the 2020 election. the scores of audits and investigations, never amounted to so much evidence. but with his grasp so tight on the gop, the role of statewide officials in charge of legally certifying the elections as more critical than ever. >> ladies and gentlemen, we know it, and they know it, donald trump won. >> mark is in a tight race for secretary of state, and is in a seat for the arizona election. >> the arizona election should be decertified. >> could also be represented by election denying secretary of state. >> you are not related to joe biden. >> no i will say, this i

personally voted for -- >> this, despite christine's own party in michigan having that a senate oversight committee investigation, without, quote, no evidence of widespread or systematic fraud. in arizona, the attorney general is also certified the states election results. >> i will fight to secure this election so that when donald trump runs and wins again in 2024, everyone will know it is legitimate. >> and there are multiple candidates for governor. >> would you have certified arizonans results? >> hell, no. >> these candidates all have shots to win in states that now president biden won, they now refused to say if they would have certified his win. the last step for certification, capitol hill, that process delayed on january six 2021, 147 reply blinken's objected to the certification of mr. biden's win, if the majority of members in both chambers objected to a state result, they could be thrown out. republican candidates running to --

democratic incumbents are now suggesting they would have joined that effort. >> if >> you had been in the u.s. senate, would you have objected the 2020 certification? >> you know, i believe what cruz said, his right. >> more than 300 election denier station wide are now running into tuesday's elections. >> from blake, masters phone, hill eroding there for, us claire mccaskill who is not just what would happen if some of these people got into power, that's what is going to happen perhaps in a few days if some of these people lose those races. they are not going to concede. we know that. >> listen, i think what may happen, honestly, is that we are going to have the focus on the court when these democrats do well. if the democrats lose, i predicted the democrats will accept the results of the election because they really don't want to get into a situation where we are not following the law. and the quartz decided that election was fair and free of

fraud, it was not democrats or republicans, it was the law that decided, because there was no evidence. so if you put elections denials into office, they still are going to have to deal with the evidence and if they try and change vote, there will be evidence that they tried to change a vote. so the courts right now are so important, so everyone who has judicial -- should really pay close attention. if you are electing election deniers to the court than we are in trouble. >> yeah, congressman, it is so fascinating, are you -- and all the republican officials there, we are down, we have all these audits, these cyber people come in and do their audit, and they might have had more votes even through their count, you had county commissioners -- say these people are crazy.

they are out of their mind. saying things happen in michigan, they had one audit, after another audit, and these are just bizarre conspiracy theories. yet, you have republican candidates running this year that are buying into the lies that their own party and their own state said it was a lie. it is the same thing happening in our democracy right now, i come from a family who lost their country because democratic institutions failed, and some of these republicans are really putting cracks in our democratic institutions. by the way, it speaks to the issue of candidate quality some of these people are blatant liars and that is why they are struggling and a year where republicans should be doing much better when you look at the president's approval numbers, the fact democrats control the entire federal government, they should be -- but some of these candidates are struggling, and it is because a lot of their voters see that they are blatantly

lying and fortunately, some people are not willing to go along with that. >> you know, it is interesting, does fascinating that actually republican given historical trends, given inflation, republicans should be doing much much better now than they are. these people who are thinking this is a winning -- if you look at history, they are actually dragging down the republican vote. i think the only reason given history, these races in the senate are so competitive this way, is because of all these lies. >> i agree, i think that when i look at the republican, the roster of republican candidates around the country, i'm shocked at the low quality, you get the sense that they use the denying -- not only that of some kind of loyalty to donald trump, but because they really don't understand policy. i mean -- why do they have to brag on?

>> that is correct, and i also think and a proof -- for those of us who have favored in communities of, color to say we have got to use votes, we have to use the system to answer the things that we are passionately concerned, about inequality, police, reports when they start denying the system works, it doubles up the work of those of us that want to finally have access to the system, because they feed into this whole thing about it is all fixed, not with having, it is all not worth dealing with. i think that if many -- particularly in colorism, communities of color you are talking, about it becomes fair. we are already going against people who are stacked against them and lot of different ways. >> all right, up next, mitch mcconnell talks about concerns over the quality of republican senate candidates, but, will that matter come tuesday, i will discuss that ahead. you are watching a special edition of -- on a sunday night before the

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greater -- in the house for the senate. the senate races are just different, they are statewide. we and the candidate quality has a lot to do with that. >> that was minority leader, mitch mcconnell, in august, expecting concerns about the quality of candidates that the republican party was stealing, -- many of whom many of whom who are backed by are backed by donald donald trump. trump. i i want to wonder why why mitch was mitch was concerned. concerned. >> i want >> i want women, women, doctors, doctors, political local and leaders winning political leaders the democracy admitting that the that has always democracy for our nation, allowed our nation to it is thriving to put the best ideas thrive and states can forward. so the states can decide for decide for themselves. themselves. >> -- kissing my ass, he was my support.

>> i'm 18 points up we. >> are we having a good time, to have a president back in ohio? >> the fbi set me up with a corrupt -- with a corrupt briefing, and this week i am -- i'm sorry. >> he still referred to corruption with the fbi, trying to uncover and expose. >> so do we have time for the audience, please audience, please audience, we are trying to get through these. >> i am, we are and at the same time -- >> mr., walker mr., walker mr. walker, excuse me mr. walker. we have a problem. that is not about -- >> my wife on some of vegetables >> -- our good air to china. so when china did -- they gotta move.

so it moves on to our -- now you have -- >> jen psaki, i can't, i can't make this up, can't make this up. >> no, no you can't. i mean, i have seen all those, clips i still feel the pressed for our country watching those clips. i mean look, it is the democrats winning the senate, and they may, one of the stories here is going to be the absolute failure to recruit good candidates on the republican side. the other story is that a lot of people in holding their nose and voting for candidates like herschel walker. nobody thinks, no matter what politics, are that that guy would be a good member of the senate. so my will certainly be a story to watch on tuesday, and i do think in races like pennsylvania one, if it -- might be a different conversation we are having right now. he would be a harder candidate to run against. that is a lesson for republicans as well. and while some may be voting to

get that vote, whether republican or democrat, but on the republican side, i think it is very hard to explain the threat to democracy. you can explain the consequences of losing abortion, writes you can explain crime, it is easier, but explaining this is tough. >> well, i mean, it is tough if you are not good at politics. >> no, but people have things they're worried about. voting, on inflation. >> if you are good at doing this, -- you sound a lot like, i don't know, josh shapiro. or -- who somehow both know how to come and walk at the same time, talk about inflation and crime, while talking about saving democracy. they somehow make it seem pretty easy to do. >> i mean look, those guys are both talented politicians, and the congressional level, there are up. so both sides of the aisle,

there is people with performance goals. look, it is obviously -- you saw barack obama, and the campaign giving a master class on how he did in it is clear that if you saw that inflation was clear and roaring back in the beginning after labor day, if -- have a strong defensive argument on the economy, i would say an offensive argument taking credit for the things joe biden and congress did that are popular, genuinely popular. you and i am not going to be prevail in this environment -- if you did not have an economic message to go along with the other things you wanted to campaign on, you would be trouble in this race. all right, up next, the potential consequences of tuesday's outcome. from abortion rights to aid to ukraine to the economy. what happens to those issues, and others, if congress flips? and, nbc's garrett hayes joins us from capitol hill, next.

welcome back to our special evening edition of mourning, -- there is so much at stake at this election, whether the abortion, right or some republicans indicating that aid to ukraine could dry out. joining us now, nbc news senior capitol hill correspondent, garrett hayes with more.

garrett? >> well, i think for republicans, depending on whether they pick both chambers, or just one, they're gonna run into some of the similar math problems that democrats have. if the only managed to take the house, anything that house republicans do are going to be, basically, a messaging bill. they might be most successful to the degree you define success on the oversight fun. they have already indicated that they want to bring in folks like christopher wray, merrick garland, anthony fauci could be making the return appearances to the hill. and, perhaps, even hunter biden would be a significant focus of house republicans that they run investigations, after investigation. and trying to be a thorn in the side of joe biden. now, if the senate flips as well, you could see more rub us in trying to bring in the biden administration on other issues, on sending for bigger fights over, you know. the entitlement spending, even. the ukraine funding, i think is less likely to become a major fight then some other separates in part because the two leaders

of both of those chambers and republican, side both kevin mccarthy and mitch mcconnell have indicated that they still believe in supporting funding for ukraine. particularly, mcconnell has been very strong on this point. so, i don't think that you'll see significant pushback to that on the senate side. as for abortion, that remains a big question, obviously democrats had a very strong summer, running on that, issue they got a little bit of help from lindsey graham by introducing that 15-week abortion ban. mcconnell, the, again is not in favor of that ban even if the republicans do take the senate it's hard to see that coming up on the senate side. and on the republican side to run messaging votes on that issue when we know what the polling says and what the country says. they are not in favor of the national band. including democrat benefits. so, i think that that is the broadly of the land on those issues here. expected to be a study -- from the republican-controlled house, but they're gonna be up against joe biden's made of hand and the filibuster could once again become democrat's best friend in the senate. >> there you go, nbc's garrett

hayes. thank you very much for that. >> cory mccaskill, final thought, what is at stake here? in this election, as far as your top issue. >> well, extremism versus the middle of the country and both ideologically, and frankly, insufficiently. there is a lot of extremism within the republican party and if they, win both houses that will be in full, show full display. and, mitch mcconnell, we all act like it's a conclusion that mitch mcconnell would be in trolled if they took the senate. i don't think that that's true. i think that you're gonna be electing the same people that he called bad candidates. and, they are not going to come to washington with a lot of loyalty to mitch mcconnell. their loyalty is going to be to donald trump, josh hawley, ted cruz and that group. so, you could have some no fight internally in the senate if democrats do not turn up on tuesday. the same, question jen psaki what is the issue that you

think it's most at stake on tuesday? >> well, i actually think that electing election deniers across the country is going to be an, issue not just for the days following the election but for 2024 because we are talking about people in states and the outcome of 2024 could depend on. and, it's decided to make it harder to, vote which secretaries of state can do. and, if they decide that they're not going to certify the election, that creates an entirely different battle for 2024. and, who is going to be president for the next four. years >> all, right john heilemann, what about you? >> well, i disagree one of the biggest clearing that jim said and i would say it would be the radicalism of republicans who you've already seen, the house republican caucus with kevin mccarthy vowing and shipping the likes of marjorie taylor greene. it is going to be an ugly thing to behold and i think that she's not wrong when she saves what's going to happen in the senate. the power of the maga base and the representatives that day, if they are governing in the house and senate is a potential

nightmare for american democracy. there's election deniers, and the state level offices for the american democracy. but, i will say this an extremist republican party in the house and senate overreaching could be in small democratic political terms could be a great thing for joe biden and the democratic party to push back against so it could learn some lessons from the election. the push, again off again extremists could be the way forward for democratic's. >> yes, it's extremism and in 23 and 24 will politely leave the democrats. but for now, what's the issue? >> the point is can we survive. and i think that in terms of the election deniers and how voting would be going forward but i think that the thing that most troubles me is the century from lyndon johnson, and dr. king until now. women's rights, civil's, right voting rights all of that will

be very different if -- what looks like maybe a way that we will no, not only with, voting but we will not know rights as we move them. and that is on -- >> i'm going to look a little past, tuesday and i'm gonna assume that republicans, to some degree are going to return to power, joe. and i think that the question will be will republicans turn congress into a full league owned subsidiary of donald trump, or will republicans have the courage to act with an advancement agenda, that's detached from any one person and that can regain the trust and confidence of the american people? in our democracy and in the party. they will have to make that choice. i think i know what mitch mcconnell's, we'll see what kevin mccarthy and house republicans do. >> all, right our thanks to a great panel, and carlos you will be part of that. so, don't go anywhere. you're part of our continuing coverage on msnbc, next hour. a special field report with paul, rumbles and when we back,

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