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what's happening in our state. >> yeah. >> i was out campaigning for kathy hochul over the weekend, and i think democrats in new york state need to wake up a little bit because lee zeldin is very close to her. she is an election denier. he is a mini trump. climate change denier. he wants to take abortion off the menu for new yorkers. he voted against gay marriage. so i'm concerned. i think people in this state need to wake up. >> you put a video out with new york governor kathy hochul on why you're choosing to vote for her. let's take a look at that. >> okay. >> governor, is the man you're running against an election denier? >> yes. >> is he a climate change denier? >> yes. >> has he voted against gay marriage? >> yes, he has. >> has he voted against commonsense gun laws? >> yes. >> governor, do you want to keep us safe and protect us? >> yes, i do. >> do you want to allow women to
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be in control of their reproductive rights? >> yes, i do. >> governor, you have my vote. >> thank you. bring it home, everybody. >> it's a vote for new york. >> let me say i was a huge fan of alfred hitchcock and i found the lighting -- >> that was a little horror-esque. i'm sorry. we were on the stage. >> look at this. >> i know. it's terrible lighting. i know. it's bad. that's what you're getting out of this video? isn't that a lesson? >> do you know where i get it from? >> where? >> i heard viewers going, oh, my gosh. >> great artist skill. stole that from you. >> please don't turn it around. >> that makes me sad. >> anyway, so talk about why this race is so close. new york state. >> you tell me, joe. you're the expert. >> am i? am i theers pert? >> you're the expert on this.
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he's talking a lot about crime and that's -- >> so help me out here. >> yes. >> she was on stephanie ruhle's show the other night and she said that there's not a crime problem. steph said yeah, there is a crime problem. >> right. >> you talk to new yorkers, people in philly, in d.c. >> yep. >> liberals. they'll tell you, like, at the dinner table, oh, my god, this happened at union station, this happened at the subway. people are scared. >> right. >> should democrats stop saying look at the day? explain that. >> there also has been -- there are people with mental health issues running around on the streets that are really contributing to this, and there's a huge homeless problem all over the country. >> and this is -- is this a post-covid crisis? >> seems like it.
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>> i think it is. i feel like the data's going to catch up. it's one of the things. the data from today we'll get later. >> right. >> but, you know, for governor hochul or for anybody to not validate how people are feeling is a huge political mistake. >> yes. jonathan lemire, who has pitched husbands of south boston, has a question. he was looking like he wanted to ask a question. >> go for it. >> i don't want to do that. but on the crime issue, there is perception. data shows -- it's about how people are feeling. there's a sense that the governor, who has not won an election yet, took over after cuomo. >> right. >> she's out of step with that. >> right. >> and what has lee zeldin done for crime? what is he going to do? >> he's manipulated and overdramatized events.
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>> he's using video from oakland, california, in one of his campaign ads. >> do they feel like we have a race on our hands? >> seems like it. >> yeah. >> seems like they underestimated what's going on. >> i guess that's what i don't understand because you have so many progressives, so many democrats, media people, oh, there's no crime problem. again, everywhere i go, it is -- >> exactly. i think the subway -- sirius xm twice a week there and back, still the quickest way to get around town, but you have to watch out. it's not amazing. >> it's not at all. andy, so good to see you. four minutes past the top of the hour. >> happy 15 years. for "morning joe." you'll have an audience here. >> wednesday. >> i don't know that that's going to be that -- >> yeah.
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>> more like -- it's going to be more like -- >> i'm going to send someone over to be in the audience. >> don't forget to watch "watch what happens live" tonight. >> who's on? >> good question. daniel radcliffe. >> amazing. >> yes. >> you don't really know, do you? >> i do. >> is he really coming on? >> yes, he is. >> anyone else? >> rachel maddow. >> you have the cutest babies i've ever seen. >> i appreciate it. you're forgiven. >> i am. >> for saying you look like a corpse. >> you just look tired. because i care. i care. all right. do you know what we're doing right now? we're all avoiding the reality of these midterms. >> happy to be here for you. >> i like your bedazzled lipstick.
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>> thank you. it's out. you can't buy it. the last one. >> you went with the frosted pink? >> i did. andy cohen, thank you very much. we are well into the fourth hour of "morning joe," and that went completely off the rails. >> not really. >> 9:00 a.m. on the east coast, 6:00 a.m. out west. andy cohen, in 12 hours you'll be getting ready for your show to start. >> yes. >> amazing. okay. >> daniel radcliffe. >> on your show. >> tonight. >> oh, my gosh. >> we'll be watching. >> yes. >> we will. all right. you take care. we have a lot to get to this hour, including elon musk tweeting last night that his mission is to make twitter the most accurate source of information in the world. >> off to a great start with the paul pelosi thing.
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>> that he tweeted himself. but how would that work when he just laid off employees who fight misinformation on the weekend before the critical midterm election? we're taking a closer look at that. as for tomorrow's election, candidates and their surrogates were out this weekend and will spend this final full day of campaigning pushing their closing messages. a new nbc news poll shows enthusiasm for both parties is extremely high. >> what's fascinating, jonathan -- it's really crazy, there's like a nine-point gap last month and now even. again, just one poll. >> one poll, but it seems to show a surge for democrats here in a race where questions about their enthusiasm have persisted, that there was a bump over the summer after the supreme court decision overturning roe v. wade, but then it seems like this fall has been defined by republicans defining their issues in the race and being more enthusiastic. now democrats have closed the gap and it comes as polls in
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nearly every race show tightening. >> donald trump as stayed off the airwaves for last month. trump, who was a baseball crank, said that if republicans -- people talking about trump, republicans are losing, biden, republicans are winning. right? and so talking about trump. what does he do -- >> back in the fray. >> he can't help himself. >> he can't. appearing at all these rallies. he was stand beg hind dr. oz when he made those closing arguments. and he had to make the story about himself. that might help democrats in the last hours. >> with more than 40 million ballots cast nationwide, early voting has already surpassed the 2018 midterm election. chief white house correspondent peter alexander has the latest from a key battleground, pennsylvania. >> reporter: just 24 hours out, optimism and anxiety with
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control of congress up for grabs. >> this election isn't a referendum. it's a choice. >> reporter: democrats bracing for a potentially turbulent election night, needing to outperform president biden's weak approval rating, in the mid-40s. according to our new nbc news poll, 8 in 10 americans are dissatisfied with the economy. one positive sign for democrats, they're closing the enthusiasm gap with 73% of them and republicans eager to cast their ballot. republicans had a nine-point enthusiasm advantage just a month ago. the senate remains a toss-up with races deadlocked in georgia, nevada, and pennsylvania, where president biden and former presidents trump and obama converged to deliver closing arguments this weekend. >> don't tune out! get out and do what? >> vote! >> reporter: democrat john
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fetterman and dr. oz's race could be decided in the suburbs. >> get your friends and family to vote. >> if we do this all together, we will win big time on tuesday. >> reporter: in georgia, raphael warnock is trying to fend off a challenge from former football star republican herschel walker. >> you have been putting in the hard work and the long hours, and it has made a difference. >> put me in the game, coach. i'm ready to play. >> reporter: president biden steering clear of key battleground states, instead heading to traditionally blue maryland, today, after a stop sunday in another democratic stronghold, new york, to support vulnerable democrats including the state's governor, kathy hochul, facing a late surge from republican lee zeldin. mr. trump rallying republicans in miami. >> crazy nancy pelosi. how is she doing lately? how is she doing? >> reporter: and teasing a 2024 presidential bid, taking a swipe
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at rival governor ron desantis, while declaring himself the front-runner. >> there it is, trump at 71, ron desanctimonious at 10. >> in the poll, republicans hold a sizable lead on the economy, inflation, and crime. democrats are trusted more when it comes to the issue of abortion. and on threats to democracy, democrats hold just a one-point lead over republicans. joining us now, national political correspondent for "the new york times," lisa lehrer. her latest reporting is entitled "at campaign's end, democrats see limits of focus on abortion." >> and of course, you know, reporters don't write the headlines. but i love this headline.
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>> do you? i wrote this one. no, no. >> exactly. >> midterms, angst and competence. again, republicans should have a massive night. it's just impossible to tell. you talk to democrats in new york, they're freaked out. talk to democrats in pennsylvania, it's all pretty good. talk to democrats in nevada -- i mean, it seems everything is breaking different ways. >> and anyone who tells you they know what's going to happen is lying to you. we live in an extraordinary time. this is the first post-roe, post january 6th, post-pandemic maybe kind of election. we've never lived through this before. the pollsters have no idea if they're right. they think they're right, but maybe assumptions that others are wrong. democrats really excited, but we don't know. we know republicans -- we don't
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know how many are coming out. >> we don't know. >> right. >> because during covid it would make sense that democrats would be less likely to vote in person, right? so republicans -- if democrats start to think we're post covid, maybe more democrats -- we don't know. >> we don't know. >> again, everything seems to be breaking in so many different ways. so i guess the question of the hour is, will roe and the taking away of a half-century right for women, will that be a deciding factor? will it be sort of -- i don't want to say sleeper issue, but look what happened in kansas and the kansas pollsters were off by double digits. >> they were. people care about roe and abortion rights, and democrats particularly care about that issue. it is something that motivates
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the base. is it the deciding factor? again, it's complicated. we're in a world where abortion rights are state by state. in new york, voters are not stupid. they know their rights are safe here in new york and they could probably vote if they feel, you know, on crime or on inflation and not feel like that's as much a risk. this could be a totally different dynamic and will be in 2024, but for now i don't think that we're seeing that. abortion is not the silver bullet democrats were hoping for. the headwinds against them are just really tough. >> they really are. >> there's a worry some demographic trend for democrats, polling this morning about how black and latino voters, republicans making inroads with those groups. democrats you are speaking with day after day,000 worried are they about that? what do they feel they should have done differently? >> that is something i'll be keeping an eye on as election night and these results roll in, which could take quite some time, so brace yourself.
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i've been fascinated with what we're seeing in blue areas. we're seeing republicans possibly make inroads in blue areas. you were talking about new york. that's a perfect example. why is that happening? is that all the suburbanites or voters of color, maybe some small portion are staying home or taking another look at the republican party. if that happens, if republicans are able to expand their margins, they won't win those groups, but could they do better than the trump era? that would be a really big dynamic we all want to pay attention to. and democrats are worried about that. >> joining us from georgia is senior political correspondent for "the washington examiner," david drucker. talking about great headlines, your latest, "they're lying to you: walker likens warnock to satan in georgia senate race." >> a light touch.
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>> and "stay in his lane." warnock tells walker to stick to football in a bid to hang on to the senate. >> yesterday a pastor compared herschel to jesus. >> by the way, i wrote the headline. this is a very bitter race and because it's a 50/50 senate, it, like other races, could decide the senate majority. it's a very interesting contrast between walker and warnock in this regard. warnock has been crisscrossing the state, multimillion events a day, really focused on energizing democratic field troops to knock on doors, squeeze out every last democratic vote they can find in majority democratic counties and elsewhere. herschel walker, just like many other republicans, has issues on his side when you look at how independent voters and republicans of course feel about
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president biden and things like the economy, crime, and inflation. so he's been holding one big event per day. and then calling it a day, we don't see him again. but you can do that when you're running in a state where president biden's job approval ratings are lower than the national average, below 40%. so it's a very tall order for senator warnock in this regard. he'll have to outrun president biden by ten-plus points. he's dynamic politician. he's likable. he's working hard. but that is a really tall order in a midterm election when the president is of your party, voters don't feel good about him, and the issues are working against you. >> the power of incumbency for senators, massive. in the past, i've always said if you're a sitting senator, you have to work really hard to lose. in this case, i look at warnock
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and he's a really good politician. he works hard. i'm so glad you talked about how he's done it. he works hard. he does what a lot of people hate doing. he'll raise the money, do the things he needs to do to be an effective united states senator. again, you have a guy who's running, a speech today to, most people can't understand half the words he says in that speech, and warnock is still possibly losing? i mean, it's a toss-up. do you have any indication down there that some georgia analysts are thinking that actually all the hard work could add up to a victory for warnock? >> well, i think that both sides are keeping a close eye on this and they're being careful about their predictions. i can tell you privately republicans are very optimistic. they look at how herschel walker moved through the abortion
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scandal he had to deal with, the allegations he paid for abortions for ex-girlfriends years ago and that he was actually tied or ahead in the last polls taken in this race. based on the polling averages, if anybody can pull this off, it's warnock. republicans have been saying more than a year he's much tougher out than many republicans outside of georgia realize. i think we have to look at how these midterm elections often break. and the way they often break over the last 20 years where the party that controlled the white house was on its heels is that independents and wavering voters at the end say never mind, i'm going to vote for somebody new. and in 2018, guys, if you remember, dean howard, incumbent senator of nevada, lost re-election, appointed senator in arizona mcsally lost her bid for a term, democrats winning there, and it is because the
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voters had decided they charles hadlock enough of trump and the republicans running everything in washington and they waned some change. you talked about enthusiasm. that's something democrats can point to feel like they can hold on in some of these races but it's the only thing they can point to. they're not where they want to be. >> thank you for your reporting. >> thank you, david. >> talking about georgia, even when dms thought things were breaking their way mid to late summer, i always go back to the georgia poll, and herschel walker was always right there. it made me think, my god, that guy is staying competitive. i'll say it, you can't say it because, you know, you're a journalist and i never pretended to be, but he's perhaps the least qualified candidate that has ever run for office.
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the list of horrors that he has committed against women, people in his family, any single one would destroy him. he's holding tight, being compared to jesus. come on, man. >> i was just down in georgia and i was struck by how much support he has. i mean, i think we're in an era where partisanship overrides everything else, right?'s core . we dug into the claims of abortion, and given the moment we're in with roe and everything, you know, we all know politicians have -- politicians who are opposed to abortion have paid for abortions. we've all heard that story before. but i wonder could bit different this time around in this moment. and what we're seeing is the answer is no, that it hasn't -- you know, it hasn't really
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impacted how tight the race is. i mean, i think some democrats would argue that the only reason they are competitive at all, that the race is so tight is because of walker's sort of issues about whether voters can trust him and this idea he's a fundamentally damaged candidate. >> yeah. >> but i wonder if in this era, being damaged in the way we thought in politics maybe eight, ten years ago, those things don't matter anymore. >> across the board. back in 2000, after bush and gore essentially tied -- >> yes. >> -- you talked to any of the bush people afterwards, they would say news of the dui last weekend depressed evangelical vote just enough to tighten the race up. we're talking about a dui from, like, 20 or 30 years prior to
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the election. >> mm-hmm. >> versus herschel walker -- >> pointing a gun to his wife's head. nine children that exist. >> yeah. >> go down the list. you know, it's not -- >> getting caught in one lie after another lie after another lie on the campaign trail saying this woman doesn't exist, the media is making it up, and then a couple days later you find out he's been paying child support to this woman for a decade. >> going on stage and talking about wild pigs or something, talking about some animal that -- bulls and the bulls have the -- oh, my god. >> at this point, let's bring in a data trap and talk about that story. >> let's bring in journalist for "the economist," elliott morris. you've been look at the latest senate polling averages and their wide margins of error, pointing out two things, how
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tight the races are and also how polling at this point -- it can be very inaccurate. >> that's right. your previous guest, lisa, i echo with the numbers. if someone is telling you they know how the elections are going to turn out, they're lying to you or have been misled by someone lying to them. the key eight senate races, for example, they're all within the margin of error of polling averages on the final day of an election. there are four competitive republican states, four democratic states, and they could go either way. i guess republicans and democrats, they have their leads in some states like new hampshire, arizona, the lead towards the democrats, north carolina, ohio, wisconsin, sort of more republican-leaning states. but polling averages have been wrong before. part of my job as a data journalist is to assess the
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inaccuracy, the uncertainty of these numbers. i can tell you right now i wouldn't be surprised if republicans won 54 seats or if democrats won 54 seats in the senate. i mean, it's not only a toss-up race, there's a wide array of possibilities here. >> elliott, what i'm curious about -- and if you've talked to any polling firms that have talked about the fact that over the past six years that pollsters time and again underestimate populists, the populist vote for right-wing candidates, i'm curious, have pollsters told you that they're trying to correct, do things to correct for the fact that in certain states especially in the upper midwest they consistently underestimate the number of populist -- voters who would come out and vote for populist
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candidates? >> the issue according to the pollsters is not so much these candidates are populist or far right but that white, working-class, especially more republican or, like, more trumpy republican voters weren't picking up the phones or maybe they weren't answering a poll online, and that was biassing the numbers against those republican candidates, at least in america. you know, internationally this sort of underestimation of far-right candidates isn't seen. but you have a point. pollsters previously have been underestimating republicans. and if you're a democrat, i think it's a useful exercise to ask yourself, well, what does this election look like if that same error happens again, if our forecasts are sort of wrong conditional on the polls being wrong as well? if that's the case, then, yes, 50 seats, 55 seats for republicans not totally out of the question.
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democrats got to vote if they think those polls are wrong. pollsters say they've fixed these problems. they hope they have. but it's a really hard problem. this is the fundamental issue with polling is whether or not you're getting representative groups based off, you know, the political composition of the country. and that's a really, really tough problem to solve, and that's why these margins of error, these bands of uncertainty, are so large right now. >> data journalist for "the economist," elliott morris, thank you so much for your insight this morning. national political correspondent for "the new york times," lisa lehrer, thanks for coming in this morning. still ahead on "morning joe," the latest on the social media giant that president biden says, quote, spews lies around the globe. cnbc's andrew ross sorkin will join us for the latest on the elon musk twitter saga. also ahead, the battle for
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the farmer? >> do i look like a farmer to you? >> from upstate new york, yes. >> where are you from again? >> down state, right here. i went to cornell, though. so that's upstate. with the farmers. >> close to where i used to live up there. >> where were you? >> new york. great peak. >> great peak. >> half past the hour. president joe biden is calling out twitter, criticizing it saying it spews lies all across the lies. those comments come as the
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company's ceo, elon musk, fired a huge number of employees, a move that is raising new questions about the company's ability to moderate content and misinformation. nbc news senior tech correspondent jake ward has more. >> this morning, billionaires debating the direction of a site that has an outside impact on the spread of information just before the election. elon musk tweeting twitter needs to be to become the most accurate source of information around the world. jack dorsey replied, accurate to who? in a report from bloomberg unconfirmed by nbc news, the company has reached out to dozens of fired employees to ask them back because some were laid off by mistake, according to two people familiar with the moves. this just days after elon musk suddenly fired roughly half the staff. >> i found that my work was wiped out. >> reporter: sources say the
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layoffs included staff that filtered out hate speech and studied misinformation. critics worry that twitter's ability to police misinformation is compromised with the midterm elections only a day away. >> there have to be guardrails so individuals are not -- misinformation is not dominating public discourse. >> reporter: new studies show the day musk took over hate speech spiked on twitter. researchers found use of the "n" word increased by nearly 500%. to raise revenues, twitter plans to offer users verified accounts for $8 a month, though it's unclear what steps the company is taking to verify these accounts. this while some users took to impersonating musk's personal account, including comedienne kathy griffin, who was suspended. and such handles that don't clearly specify parity will be permanently suspended. several major companies pulling their ads from the platform.
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musk, who tweeted he had, quote, no choice about the layoffs when the company was losing over $4 million a day, spoke out about the advertiser backlash. >> we're doing everything possible and make it clear that rules have not changed and we're continuing to enforce them. >> reporter: twitter, whose press team also was largely laid off, did not respond to our request for comment. >> wow. andrew ross sorkin, co-anchor of cnbc's "squawk box," how would you begin to describe what is going on? did elon musk understand the platform he has taken over? >> i think he does. >> does he? >> but he may not appreciate all the challenges. one thing he said on friday in that interview we just played, he said he thinks that in time twitter will take him the less time to manage than tesla and spacex. he wants to get back to doing that kind of work. i would imagine if you recognize twitter, human business in the
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way tesla -- those are physical, industrial companies, human businesses are tough. >> yeah. 24/7. >> 24/7. >> i just don't understand, so here's a guy, again, one of the great minds of our time, one of the sort of the thomas edisons of our time, and i don't understand why he's taken on this platform that is such a mess, he paid maybe four times as much for it as he should have. it's keeping him away from the things he does better than anybody else in the world. >> might have even been making him a little anxious. >> clearly. >> it's defensively going to help. i think originally for him this was like buying a baseball team. >> right. >> certain billionaires, that's what this was originally. then he realized he made a grand mistake given today maybe worth
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$10 billion, $12 billion, and he paid $44 billion. from an economic stand point, he has debt on this thing he'll have to pay. come april 2023 he'll owe another $500 million of debt. he says the business is losing $4 million a day. he's upset with advertisers who have walked away or suspended advertising on the platform. he's either going to have to keep ponying up his own money for some period of time or enough of us will buy the blue check mark at $8, but even that i'm not sure is the answer. >> so let me ask you this. how does he make money on this, enough to make the investment worth it? >> he needs to get tens of millions of people to pay 8 bucks a month. that's the first piece. then he needs advertisers to come back. then he needs -- not just advertisers to come back, he needs for advertisers. we've talked about how advertising on instagram, for example, i buy stuff on instagram, i don't know why i click on those ads.
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he needs to fix that. he needs to solve that. in his mind, i think he cannot only turn twitter into twitter, twitter into instagram, into youtube and maybe some kind of payment platform down the road. >> he also seems to be tweeting about every 30 seconds. that's all he cares about. all his time. talk about why the advertisers are going away. that's because there's a sense that twitter has now under musk's ownership become a much safer space for hate rhetoric, racist rhetoric, anti-semitism. >> it's not getting better. it's getting worse. >> "the washington post" reporting the 500% increase in the use of the "n" word and anti-semitism on the platform. but i don't know if he appreciates that. he will say, by the way, that the moderation hasn't changed. having said that, we felt the moderation team, at least more than half of it, was removed. and they're bringing people back. there's other parts of sets they're having to bring those
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employees back. it will be a tough one. >> an extraordinarily difficult business. >> to begin with. >> to begin with. >> to begin with. >> especially if you do something else. he's great at something else. he's in this strange world. even for the most tech savvy people, this thing is a business. >> we all would like him to succeed, but the question is what is success. that's really the question. i would like to see this be a great platform and town square where people can have, you know, reasonable and respectful dialogue that doesn't include hate speech, that actually improves the amount of good information, not misinformation. the question is what does he have to do to get there and economically, what does he have to do to make that a viable business. >> do you really believe that's what he wants? he was the first to tweet something nasty and untrue about paul pelosi.
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>> i don't know what he wants in his heart. >> i think he believes that the platform had gone too far left, his view, and he's bringing other people back on the platform -- >> by the way, that is a common, is it not, a common belief in silicon valley, right? >> yes. >> i mean, a lot of sort of libertarian, right of center people, silicon valley. i only say that to -- elon musk doesn't stand alone on this issue. there are a lot of people out there actually this side of peter till, who strike out against what they consider the -- >> it's not just silicon valley. if you look at the gop broadly, they look at twitter, they look at all the silicon valley companies and think they're too liberal. i think he's a corrective on that. the question is what does that corrective look like and does that include misinformation. >> right.
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cnbc's andrew ross sorkin, thank you very much. causing me even more anxiety today. still ahead, former president trump spent the weekend on the campaign trail where he had something to say about nancy pelosi following the attack on her husband. we'll play those comments. plus, could the race for nevada's secretary of state determine the next presidential election? the republican candidate has pledged to fix the country and secure a trump victory in 2024. we'll talk to the challenger next.
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switched to the democratic party, rick caruso? >> yeah. >> man, a lot of people think that guy could win. >> yeah. polls have gotten tight there too in a race being defined on issues that we've talked about on the show. it's about crime and homelessness, cost of living. and there's a sense here in a deep blue state that caruso does have a chance. >> when democrats run around and say crime is not an issue, it's made up. >> they don't say that. >> they say it's made up. crime is not a real issue. look at these charts. look at these stats. and yet i heard from one democrat after another democrat when i'm sitting in their offices or when we're talking -- talking about crime not nationwide but my apartment got busted into. >> sure. >> i was walking out of unit continue station and the taxi line, people got shot. i was out in l.a. last weekend,
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i talked to three lifelong democrats who probably never voted far republican before. each one of them had a different story about a shooting either in their building or around the block. now, i don't know what to do with this. i don't know what to tell progressives. i don't know what to tell democrats who have been denying that this is an issue. but when democratic voters, many of whom work for democratic politicians, are talking about how bad it is in their neighborhood, i think voters may be on to something, being concerned about crime. again, all we ever hear, it's a made-up issue. made-up issue. >> elections are often about how people feel, and you can point to data that might say crime is up, maybe not overwhelming, but feel unsafe. >> here's the thing. i talked about this before.
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when i was riding in new york city subways in 1989, i did not feel as safe as when i was riding in subways from 1997. do you know why? because it was a hell of a lot safer in 1997 than 1989. so i hear you talking about how people people, but, again, these aren't people going, oh -- these are people going, you know what, a guy got shot around the block from where i live. i have this app on and it goes off every three minutes. people in my neighborhood are, like, getting mugged. it's just, again, i don't know what to do with this because it's not just that people are feeling unsafe, it's lifelong democrats keep bringing this up time and time again off camera.
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>> it's up in a number of cities. for the election, it impacts the people who are victims of those crimes in those cities but also suburban voter who is don't feel like they're as safe, moving from the cities, don't want to go into town to go shopping or to a ball game or out to dinner or whatever. crime is an issue and one of the late-breaking issues in this race. a lot of democrats i speak to say it's one that a party ignored until they feared it was too late. >> in 1997, i was going from washington to new york, and i'll tell the story again, a republican congressman, she was from one of the biggest democratic families on long island. she chewed my ear off for an hour talking about how awful i was, how awful the republicans were, how we were dangerous to american democracy, and as we were landing, i tried to change the subject, and i said i guess you're voting for mark green in
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1997, she said are you kidding me? i'm voting for giuliani. i'm, like, what? she goes, yeah, i can take my family in, we can see a broadway play, don't worry about being mugged. i was like, wow, that's fascinating. this is pretty simple stuff and you can't deny the problem when your own people are telling you it's a problem. >> secretary of state races are in the spotlight across the country. former president barack obama laid out the stakes of nevada's secretary of state race between cisco aguilar and election denying republican jim ballot. like sisco aguilar, who is running to be your secretary of state. his opponent wants to make it harder to vote. he is trying to one-up by saying all elections in nevada for the last 15 years have been fake. really?
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the last 15 years? all of them? >> that's not someone you want in charge of your election. it would be like if the raiders were playing the chiefs. and you notice that instead of the refs calling games for 20 years somebody said, hey, about that guy over there wearing the chiefs gear who has been tailgating the last three hours, drinking some brews bragging about how they won the super bowl last year. they look impartial. >> that's hitting them where they live. >> president obama kind of laid out what's at stake here. your opponent is an election denier. so make the case for your candidacy. >> good morning. thank you for having me. i'm excited to be here. look, it's an honor to run for secretary of state in nevada, especially when i'm running against one of the most dangerous candidates in america. i say dangerous because 1/2 say
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major battleground state. he has predetermined who will win the election. he stood on stage and said if he want elected secretary of state, donald trump will be the president in '24. without regard to the will of nevada voters. that's dangerous and that's unacceptable. i'm here to stand up to him and say nevada as ns will have a say. our race is no longer about democratic priorities. it is protecting access to the ballot box for all nevadans. >> i was just talking about frustrations about democrats. you want to talk about frustrations mika and i have had with republicans. people with advanced degrees, oh, yeah, the election was stolen. yeah. there was a guy in italy with -- yeah. and they try out these conspiracy theories. i'm wondering what you are hearing out on the campaign trail. are you able to make some
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headway with voters who are republican but still accept that the 2020 election was fair? >> yes. absolutely. and the reason is we have a republican secretary of state now who has done a phenomenal job with our elections in nevada. they are secure. when a presumption of fraud has occurred, she has investigated. he was standing on a major soapbox. in reality, he was the one who committed the actual fraud. when you are talking to voters and about what's on the line, they want to make sure their access is protected. they have mail ballots, early voting. i think if you look at the weather, the first day of early voting we have had a major dust storm in las vegas. it was pretty low. it was because of the weather. nevadans had options to be able to voice their concerns and
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prioritize what we are doing as a state. >> your opponent is calling for eliminating mail voting, most early voting and pushing for hand counts of ballots, which we know slows down the process dramatically. what is your counter to that? what is your platform to continue to allow nevadans access to the ballot? >> i go back to the issue we had with weather. tomorrow's weather up in northern nevada you see a major snowstorm coming and you show the importance of mail ballots. everyone has the option to execute and vote. they can mail it in or drop it off at a ballot box. we are a 24/7 economy. most people work a 12-hour shift. we're struggling with this economy. we have people working two jobs. to ask them to trach time off of their day to vote on a single tuesday in november is unacceptable when it's not necessary.
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we have options for working people. and what my opponent is doing is trying to silence them. when you silence a community or large sector of a community you're bringing in disen prann khaoeusment with what their government looks like and how it behaves. they want to make sure it is him and a select few determining what our future looks like. >> nevada's democratic nominee for secretary of state, sisco aguilar. and during a rally yesterday in miami, former president trump brought up house speaker nancy pelosi and seemed to allude to the attack on her husband. take a look. >> this was just a group of people where crazy nancy pelosi -- by the way, how is she doing lately? how is she doing? >> those were his first public comments since her husband was
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attacked inside their home by a man wielding a hammer who had zip ties saying he was looking for nancy. and if you dive into his blogs from the past few months you can see he was pretty much following a lot of conspiracy theories. a lot lines up with those who attacked the capitol january 6th. >> and conspiracy theories donald trump was pushing. jonathan, the how's she doing is in celebration of her husband getting his skull cracked by someone that fed into his conspiracy theories. it's inhumane. it circles back to what david was talking about earlier. if you are an evangelical, how does that line up with your belief system? >> it doesn't. it is a basic lack of humanity. and, again, it shows the trump
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and those who support him all they want to do is about scoring some sort of cheap political pointer laugh, and there's just a cruelty to it. >> that does it for us this morning. big day tomorrow. we'll see you bright and early, 6:00 a.m. for more joe. jose diaz-balart picks up msnbc's live coverage after a quick final break. ve coverage a quick final break. sometimes you're so busy taking care of everyone else you don't do enough for yourself, or your mouth. but eventually, it will remind you. when it does, aspen dental is here for you. we offer the custom dental treatments you need, all under one roof, right nearby. so we can bring more life to your smile... and more smile to your life... affordably. new patients without insurance can get a free complete exam and x-rays, and 20 percent off treatment plans.
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