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humanity in rejecting prop e, and supporting prop d to build more affordable housing for everyone. now. good to be with you. i'm katy tur. an estimated 120 million people or more could turn out to vote this election, which in case you have forgotten is tomorrow. so far, 42 million have voted already. that is a lot of people,
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especially for a midterm. so where are things headed? the polling is once again changing. our nbc news numbers now show democrats have caught up to republicans on enthusiasm, and while president joe biden remains unpopular and voters are expressing deep dissatisfaction about the state of the country, the numbers for who voters want to control congress have flipped. 48% want democrats. 47% want republicans. again, a straight flip from last month. but it is still a statistical tie. still within the margin of error as well. there is a lot we don't know until tomorrow or later this week as all of the ballots are counted but what we do know is that this is truly an election that will shape what our democracy looks like going forward. and whether we have much of one in the future. political gerrymandering is already pushing many of our elected officials to the extreme. protecting only the most strident candidates and in some
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cases all but shielding them to any general election challenger. open secrets tells us hundreds of millions of dollars of dark money has poured into this cycle where hidden individuals or groups can push personal agendas without any transparency. misinformation permeates social media. and lies about the last election have been spread by more than 300 would-be lawmakers and state officials across the country. if this all feels dire, arguably it is. then add on all of the concerns about the economy, and unemployment numbers, they are tiny, but inflation is sky high, as you know. everything costs to much. so what are folks thinking when they walk into the polling booth tomorrow? what concerns are going to win out? and what will this election say about the next one? which in case you forgot starts the moment this one ends. so joining me now from pennsylvania is nbc dasha burns in nevada, nbc's jacob soboroff,
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in arizona, vaughn vill yard and in georgia. canvassers, what are they telling you about getting out the vote and what they're telling folks? of course, we're going to start with a frozen person. sorry about that. dasha is frozen. we'll go back to her. jacob soboroff what are you hearing in nevada. >> i'm frozen too, katy. no i'm not frozen. it has been extraordinary. it's been really extraordinary to be out here, and to get to pound the pavement with the culinary workers union. the 60,000 strong political powerhouse here that is stumping on the behalf of democratic causes and candidates. you won't believe this but they say they have made contact with almost a million voters at 165,000 conversations, and talked to half of the black and latinx voter population and a third of the aapi population and
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at a state where it is one of the centers of election denialism, i was here when adam laxalt denied the election in 2020, of senator cortez masto, and as you and i learned when we did american swamp, the documentary series, often the largest potential voting block is people who don't come out to vote in the first place. i met one of them, and check out what he had to tell me. >> if you were to vote, this would be your first time? >> yes. >> how is life? you clearly are fixing up your car. is that what you do for a living? >> i work at auto zone right now and go to a trade school, ati. >> are you aware the election is coming up on tuesday? >> because you're 18, you have never voted before? >> yes you are still living at home with mom and dad. >> do you see a situation where you will be able to move out soon? >> not any time soon. >> how come? >> well, i mean, you know, that's a lot of money. >> too expensive? >> yes.
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and we don't get paid that much. >> what matters most to you, forget about politics, what matters to you? >> my car. >> fixing it up? >> yes. >> you believe in any, or trust politicians? >> no. what would that be? >> the senator, senator cortez masto, she is running for election and running as a democrat and hoping people like you come out and vote? >> for her. >> for her, because she in power, she's with the democrats, republicans say they have the better plan. any of those folks speak to you? >> i mean i hear, but it's just like to me, it's just a bunch of back and forth. >> the politics kind of seep into your soeshd? >> definitely. even my music with ads and stuff. >> yes. >> and listening. >> that's where i usually get it. >> if it wasn't that, in your social media, in your music, maybe it's this visit today. >> yes. this visit. oons. >> i thought that that was such
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an extraordinary interaction, it was so cool to meet alberto, because he went from saying his car matters most to him, he's 18, he's never voted, the ads are on social media, and i'm streaming and ultimately it was that face to face contact with those canvassers that convinced him to go out to and to go and do it and i think both parties in this state are counting on those interactions over the last 24 hours. >> that's what politicians want. they want someone to get to someone and convince them and here is why it matters and your vote counts and take a chance on this. >> dasha, i am told you are no longer frozen. i asked you at the beginning what you're hearing from canvassers in that state and what they're telling you. >> i think the technical glitches here are pretty representative of how we're all feeling inside right now including the folks behind me hitting the pavement so hard for months and we have jacob and phyllis and sue here, and they know the stakes are incredibly high which is why they're
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spending their monday knocking on doors trying to get the final persuadable voters, which there are very few left, but the most important kind of voters for them right now are the voters who they can persuade to actually go out and vote. turnout is so incredibly important. >> you have sue who is about to knock on this door, and sue actually retired on september 1st, she told me that on that day, her retirement, she had brunch with her husband and went to the democratic headquarters and said sign me up, put me to work and she said she is very excited to actually start enjoying her retirement shortly here. now they're busy at work right now. but i want you to hear what they told me earlier. listen. >> knocking on doors, very pro democrats, they show up at rallies, they like josh shapiro, they show up at their rallies. >> you're seeing a lot of enthusiasm? >> i'm seeing a lot of enthusiasm. i know that sometimes the press
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is indicating, based on the polls that there isn't that much enthusiasm, but i'm seeing a lot of enthusiasm. >> john's going to be at your reunion hall tonight. >> absolutely. >> for the final event. >> absolutely. >> how much does that mean to you? >> that means the world. so like my family, we'll all be down there to help get john fetterman into the u.s. senate and i couldn't be more proud. >> philip who you just heard from is walking over there, and walking on doors there, go do your work, philip, he is a carpenter, labor is incredibly important for him, and that has been a huge part of fetterman's movement. look, about 70%, according to our latest msnbc poll, 70% of voters made up their mind about which way they were going to go before labor day. that means the last couple of months, all of the money spent has really been about that last third of voters, and now, it's coming down to actually getting folks out and what i'm hearing on the ground here, it is the
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economy, it is crime, and it is abortion rights, and threats to democracy, all of those issues, depending who you talk to, important in nonvoters minds right now, and it is a matter of which ones win out. >> how do you prioritize it all. we have been asking that question for a while. lots of big questions. vaughn, in arizona, speaking of prioritizing things, this is a state where there is a real contrast between the two candidates. a real striking contrast in the senate race and in the governor's race, between the candidates, walk me through what you're hearing from voters. >> the day before, i think we need to be very clear, oftentimes i think where one stands can be reflected by who they stand alongside. and in the case of mark kelly, he's the democratic incumbent senator and just down the road from where we, are actually about to hold the republicans for kelly event, alongside one of the sons of john mccain, jack mccain, and by contrast, i want
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to name off sox individuals who have stood alongside the republican slate of candidates, blake masters and kari lake, they're on a bus tour and we're here in phoenix where they will be arriving for another event soon. last night, they were with steve bannon. earlier this it week, they were with charlie kirk. somebody who has propagated the idea, the notion of a war on white people. yesterday, they were with this guy named jack, a conservative provocateur, one of the lead promoters of pizza gate. and then there's wendy rogers, and i just want to let everyone understand who she is, a current state senator in arizona who is censured by her own state senate, republican majority state senate, after posting anti-semitic racist tweets, just one of them, i stand with the christians worldwide, not the global bankers who are shoving godlessness in our face. and she had a white nationalist conference and talked about
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galows to hang political opponents and i want to show you at one of the events we were at over the course of the weekend and in which kari lake invited that wendy rogers to the stage. take a listen. >> wendy rogers is a grandma who loves grand babies and she fights for arizona and i tell you what, because she fights for arizona, you know how many text messages i got last session? you need to separate, back away from wendy rogers and i said hell no, she fights for arizona like no one i've ever seen. >> outside of kari lake making it very clear where her loyalties lie, this is also a matter of turnout here. we have seen high voter turnout so far, in terms of the mail-in ballots out of pima county, a heavily democratic county, around the tucson area, and now the question mark, that both sides are looking at, is what sort of surge of turnout can they get from that base of
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support? it was a record number of voters, especially new voters that came out to back donald trump in 2020, and frankly this republican slate of candidates needs those very voters to come out here over the next 36 hours, especially to vote in person tomorrow, and wendy rogers, steve bannon, this slate of candidates views, as individuals that can help that very turnout. >> illuminating context. so let's go now to georgia, ellison, what's happening there? >> both candidates right now are making this final push trying to argue that the other is ill-equipped for public office. we have consistently heard republican herschel walker try to tie incumbent democratic senator raphael warnock to president biden. he says hey, look at the economy. that's what this race is about. they have not served you well. vote for me. warnock on the other hand, he's arguing in the final days that this is bigger than republican or democratic, left or right, and he said hey, i work with republicans, when i need to work with republicans, in the best
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interest of georgia. i stand up against democrats, if it is in the best interest of georgia. and he says herschel walker, his opponent is someone who was great at running the football for georgia, but he says shows no interest in serving georgians. the back and forth between both of them, from the beginning of this race until now, things have gotten a lot more personal, a bit messier, a bit more confrontational. listen. >> less than two years, you all see what we got right now. less than two years, and people are going to ask me why i'm running. i'm running because i'm sick and tired of this. and right now, i want everyone to know, don't let the door hit you in the backside as you walk out. >> i think we're in a terrible place if anybody ever puts son a blue jersey and a red jersey and if they're wearing your jersey of your team, it doesn't matter about their character.
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i refuse to accept that premise. >> this senate race is on track to be one of the costliest races in the nation. warnock has outspent walker by about $78 million. but in most polls, the two two are still in a statistical tie. there is a very real possibility that come election night, we might not know who has won this race, and the top two candidates could head to a runoff in december. campaign event in savannah yesterday, where we were, warnock was speaking with reporters, taking questions and asked about the possibility of a runoff, he gave probably his most direct answer on that so far, saying quote, i'm still hopeful that we may be able to clinch this by tuesday. if not, we'll soldier on. walker on the other hand, he is not taking any questions from reporters, or gaggling, at his campaign events of late, he is only sitting down with friendly media outlets and we haven't been able to ask him the same question, but speaking with campaign aides with walker's team and warnock's, no one wants it to go to a runoff but if the
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polls are right, it looks like the situation that i'll be in. >> it costs a lot of money for everybody, including the voters going into a runoff. everybody, thank you for starting us off. and all of that great reporting. joining me now is the founder and president of brilliant quarters research, pollster cornell belcher. an msnbc political analyst. the bugs are in the system today, my friend. so we just talked about the reporting, the hard facts that we know from our reporters on the ground and what they can tell us about what they're seeing, what they're hearing, who the people, the candidates are standing next to, as vaughn so enlighteningly points out. polling though is really difficult right now. every pollster that i speak to, every poll that i read, they have these giant caveats, we just don't know, so how do you operate right now? >> well, here's the thing, katy. americans are looking for polls to tell them the future, they
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should stop. polls aren't created to tell you the future. there are hundreds of variables that go into what happens on election day, and the turnout. and asks a poll, to figure out hundreds of variables, and in this election, katy, where you not only have 100 moving variables, you've got new variables, so if you have a good job of covering and talking about the early vote, we've never seen an early vote like this, right? so that's a new variable. and when you look at the tremendous early vote and particularly those who are either a model democrat, it doesn't add up to the enthusiasm in polling. some polls say they're not as aftic. i would argue a lot of pundits who tell you that they know what is going to happen on on the election, stop listening to
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them, because they don't, none of us don't know what is going to happen on election day, and you should all make a plan to go out and vote. what i can tell you from the data that we do have is this is not going to be an election like we saw in 2010 or 2014, right? there is usually a turnout that's fairly consistent across the last decade of midterm elections, where the outlier being 2018, 37%, 2014, and i think 40% in 2010. katy, it looks like we're going to see, and even in the nbc news data, it looks like we're going to see an electorate for a midterm that is approaching 50% or better of eligible voters, and that's something we have not seen in several decades. >> it is amazing. just the early vote alone, let alone the expected vote which could be 120 million people, perhaps more, when you are thinking about how things are going to go, how long will you be giving it to know the final result? i mean obviously, not tuesday. when do you think that we're
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going to be able to have a sense of what's going to happen and who is going to control congress? >> well, it's tough because some of these states, you got so much early voting, so much mail-in votes and some say they're not going to start counting the vote yet. and i know we will make a big production, a big production of it, tuesday night, but truth of the matter, we probably won't know who controls things for a couple of days. what we will know is how are things are looking. i think we'll know some of the senate races, and we'll know if there is a way. we should talk about this, right? because there's a lot of talk about momentum, and historically what's supposed to happen. the party in power is supposed to have a horrendous night. 2010, democrats lost 63 states. i got to tell you right now, you know, so that is supposed to be set up for that kind of evening, now, if republicans don't win 50 to 60 seats, it's not a republican wave, and they have underperformed. it's hard for me to look at the
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data. and i'm calling balls and strike, i'm not being partisan here, but it is hard to look at the data and see a 60 seat night for republicans in the data right now. it is just hard to see. >> that's if the data is correct though, and i know there's so many variables out there. i mean maybe the data is all absolutely spot-on, we'll have to wait and see until we get the final results. cornell belcher, thank you very much, sir. appreciate you coming on. again, bugs in the system at the top of the show. appreciate it, my friend. still ahead, donald trump showed his hand this weekend. what he said that told us who he is worried about in 2024. . and take off the binoculars and put on your bifocals. what you need to know about your local races. there is a reason both parties are spending billions, with a "b", with on your state level races, the legislature. >> it is the economy stupid, but how do you vote smartly on it?
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we have breaking news from house speaker nancy pelosi, talking about the attack on her husband paul and describing for if the tyrus time how she found out. >> i had been sleeping in washington, d.c., i had just gotten in the night before, from san francisco, and the -- i hear the doorbell ring and i think, five-something, i look up, and it must be the wrong apartment and then bang, bang, bang, on the door. so i run to the door, and i see this capitol police and they say we have to come in to talk to you and i'm thinking my children, my grandchildren, i never thought it would be paul, because, you know, he wouldn't
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be out and about, shall we say. so they came in at that time, and we didn't even know where he was, or what his condition was, we just knew there was an assault on him in our home. >> scary stuff. moving ton florida, where we have a preview of 2024, over the weekend and it's clear donald trump knows if he gets in this race, who his competition is. >> we're winning big, big, big, in the republican party, like nobody has ever seen before. there's -- >> joining me from boynton beach, florida, ali vitali, ron desanctimonyus. how is that going over? >> we've been here so many times before, you and i, that the
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nickname carousel of donald trump, clearly his mind is not just on the 2022 midterms, it is on what is happening after that, donald trump clearly mulling his own presidential bid, even as ron desantis, on the stage behind me, stumping for his re-election is on a glide path to victory for the governor's race in florida, he is on stage campaigning what he has done over the past few years and frankly you and i have been to trump rallies, and a lot of the signs say trump desantis on them and we're seeing a lot of the things on them last night when trump was rallying and notably desantis was on his event and trump was rallying with marco rubio and to be clear voters know. >> the signs are so loud. it just bolsters ron as a competitor. >> it is going to be tough. i'll be honest. because we love trump. and we love ron desantis. personally, i'm hoping that we get four more years of donald
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trump, and eight years of desantis. >> katy, a lot of voters thinking several election cycles into the future, clearly, because they don't want to have to make a choice between two people that have really started to speak to the republican base here. but nevertheless, even on my way into this event here, there was a man wearing a trump desantis shirt and if you have to choose, what's the choice you make and he kind of made a face and said i have to pick desantis. i've been hearing that a lot. especially here in florida. it is an epicenter for these two men. but even in 2022, we are looking ahead to 2024, and these two guys are clearly on a collision course. >> the 2024 election startsed day after the midterm election. >> yes. >> and why donald trump is going after ron desantis, it is because of those voters you're speaking to. thank you very much. they're promising all you have to do is vote for them, and the economy will be fixed. what sort of power congress actually has. and what you need to consider.
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and in the last state, if you're counting, nebraska has a single house system so just one, if you will, legislature. of those 50 states, five have competitive races, where at least one chamber could flip and we will focus on three of them. joining me now from nevada, the independent ceo and msnbc political analyst john raleston, the detroit news state government and politics reporter, craig mogger and nbc affiliate reporter kpnx tv, brahm resnick. gentlemen, thank you very much. i want to start with michigan. what is at stake for that state, if republicans or democrats are able to gain control of the chambers? >> there's a lot of history on the line on tuesday here in michigan. democrats have not controlled our state senate since 1984. so nearly 40 years. and there's going to be policy
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imperfections as you mentioned as well, abortion rights, democrats are running on that issue, they're pledging to protect abortion rights, if they can control the state legislature, and the governor's office, and republicans are running on inflation for the recommendation -- legislative seats and say they will have a tax cut if they retain power. >> with the turnover, how does the race look? >> for the state senate, it is coming down to five seats that could really go either way. democrats need to win a couple of them. republicans kind of need a sweep of most of them to keep their majority in the senate. in the house, it's tending to favor republicans right now, but democrats have a play there as well. >> what about in arizona, brahm? >> kind of similar story out here, what you're looking at is the potential of, you know, a coupling between a far right governor, or could be the farthest right legislature we've seen in years. at this point, just one chamber appears to be up for grabs and
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that's the state senate. republicans have a one vote majority in each chamber, the house and senate and the one vote has been tough for the democrats to pick up. in the senate, a litmus chance election, and lb ford, central phoenix, central maricopa county district and pitting a incumbent against each other and it may be the best chance to knock off a republican senator, but they have to win four or five more seats, and four or five more easts are up for grabs in the senate to at least have a tie, to tie, the democrats, if they tie, they can stall legislation and if they don't, with governor hobbs, you would have vetoes and with lake you would have a lot of policy decisions that the democrats would not like. >> what about the election in the future and 2024 and the elections following it if republicans are able to gain control or maintain control of things in arizona, how much sway will they have over the vote
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count? >> that's a great point. and just covering the legislature is great, because a governor without a legislature in his or her control can't do anything, and that's number one on the agenda. if there is a republican governor, and a republican controlled legislature, you're going to see a lot of election bills, the kinds of things we've already seen in the courts perhaps, such as no more early voting, such as no more ballot counting machines, hand counts. some of the extreme ideas that have come up over the last few years are very likely to come up in the republican-controlled legislature. >> all right. let's talk about nevada. and nevada is a place where democrats control everything, john. talk to me about the likelihood that republicans can pick up enough seats to flip one of the chambers? >> well, it's almost impossible in the assembly, katy, where the democrats have a 26-16 edge, and even the most optimistic republicans i know don't think that is going to happen, unless there is a deeper red wave than
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anyone is anticipating. the state senate is a different story. three seats in play. two of them held by democrats. and one by a republican who is retiring. and the republicans have to win all three of those seats. as you know, katy, in nevada, a lot of the vote comes in early, and there's already been probably 50, maybe 60% of the vote already in, and it doesn't look like that's going to happen in the state senate. >> so much money has been spent on state races, especially the competitive ones, three of which we're talking about right now. $7.8 billion. with a "b." how much is that getting to voters out there, john? are they looking at the issues individually for each candidate? or is it your sense that this is going to be a straight party line vote for a lot of voters? >> it is a really good question. they have spent a lot of money here in nevada, and we see it in the mail, and to a lesser extent
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on tv, because that's not as effective in the legislative race, although there has been a lot of digital activity as well. one of the issues that is being used out here is democrats control everything, not just the two houses of the legislature, but the governorship. it is one of the issues that the republicans, the republican gubernatorial candidate has used to say we can't have one party control, and so the republican legislative candidates have used that as well. but they've also used issues like the economy, the covid hangover, and tried to tie legislative candidates to the biden administration for obvious reasons, and even though it's a complete stretch. and so once you get that far down the ticket, i think to some extent, tribalism takes over, and candidates are going to need to have distinguished themselves by knocking on doors, by making their personal pitches? >> brahm, over to you on this
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last question. all of this money is being put into these races, and why is all of this money being put into these races, what do the parties see, why what do they see so much to gain from these state house races? >> it's control. republicans have controlled the capital here in arizona for the last 12, 13 years, total control, governor's office, legislature. they can virtually do what they want it. is not always easy because you do have some holdout, some far right republicans as holdouts. but right now republicans are in a position to get the legislature they want, to put in place the ideas donald trump supports, to create more of a desantis-like arizona. so that's a possibility. democrats are putting in money too. we are seen ads we've never seen before from legislative candidates on mainstream tv, local broadcasting, my station,
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and they are making a pitch, trying to get the senate, the democrats are, and we'll see if they are successful, but a lot at stake in this election. >> thank you very much. remember to focus in on your state houses and consider what is at play there, and who best to vote for it. is always going to be informed before you get into the voting booth, those little paragraphs next to each person's name doesn't do much justice to the actual races. thank you very much. a michigan abortion law on the books, it is from the 1930s. what will happen to it tomorrow? first up, though, it's the economy, stupid. what two steves, two steves, told me about the economy. and how best to vote on it. this is my favorite story of the day, believe it or not. network, associated british ports can now precisely orchestrate nearly 600,000 vehicles passing through their uk port every year. don't just connect your business. right on time. make it even smarter. we call this enterprise intelligence. this holiday season save big on all the gifts you need
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that is consistently outranking everything else, both now and throughout modern history, and it is the economy. which is understandable and fair. but if you're walking to the polling booth tomorrow wanting to make a change on the economy, which a lot of you are, there are some things to keep in mind. >> what's your number one issue? >> the economy. >> the economy. >> yes. >> did you vote on the economy? >> i voted on the economy. exactly. >> everyone is talking about the economy. what is the economy? >> that's a great question. the economy is everything that goes on around us in our society and in our lives. >> since everybody is talking about it, and since it seems like everyone plants to vote on it, i sat down with legendary investment manager and economics guru steve ratner who happens to be the kind of expert who doesn't mind starting with the absolute basics.
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>> how does it work? >> well, it depends what you do and when. the economy operates largely on its own and that's part of its beauty >> i turn on my television and every single politician on television is telling me the economy is terrible and if i just vote them in, they're going to fix it. >> there are these ideas that you're going to change your elected officials and the next day, the economy is going to suddenly start to perform differently, it is wrong. >> the relationship between congress and the economy is not like the relationship between humans and weather, where you have no control. it's also not like the relationship between your finger and a light switch, where you have total control. if anything, it's more like dropping a rock in a large body of water, only to watch the waves ripple out in every direction, to know who lands where and who knows when, and who knows at which size. >> which got me thinking about history and the times in which in retrospect our votes on the economy, stupid, might have been a little stupid. there is an example of just this in steve kornacki's book the red
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and the blue so i went to ask him about it. >> i love coming to your office. >> i love the company. >> i look at this, i see this, lucerne county and a bun. of numbers i don't understand. >> yes. >> what happened with george h.w. bush? >> george bush was president at a time when going through a turbulent period economically. >> good evening. there it is. the unemployment rate. 7.1%. almost 9 million americans out of work tonight. >> the job market is very tight. i mean you apply, and someone will tell you, there are 30 or 40 applicants. >> the deficit was skyrocketing. and concern there would be some serious ramifications if the national debt didn't get under control, brought under control so bush had campaigned for president in 1988, famously saying -- >> read my lips. no new taxes. >> probably the most famous promise he made in political
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history and he went back on it, because he said this was the only way in his view the deficit could be attacked. >> and to push his credit, it helped. to bush's credit, it helped but just not in time for the next election. >> and god bless america. >> the same thing happened to jimmy carter who got dealt the arab oil embargo and a price spiral that inflation was to record hikes. >> the second highest deficit in american history. >> 97 cents. it was 86 the last time. >> to fix it, he appointed paul volker to the fed, the ultimate inflation hawk who raised rates up and up. it was painful, but the hikes eventually worked. again, though, not in time for the election. >> your neighbor is losing his job. a depression is when you lose yours. a recession is when your
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neighbor loses his job. and a depression is when you lose yours. and a recovery is when jimmy carter loses his. >> and coaching sports and the winning and losing in reality have little to do with the manager. you get the credit for the success and the blame for the failure. >> there is no question that a president gets far too much credit in a good economy and too much blame in a bad economy for the most part. a lot of these things are affected by external event ors by policies that were put in place before they got, there like before jimmy carter. >> if you're voting on the economy, stupid, which you probably, are how do you vote on it smartly? >> in a perfect world, voters were focused on a broader set of issues and policies than what are the gas prices and in a perfect world voters could disentangle that the politicians can't solve in the short run from longer run challenges and opportunities and things that we have. >> okay, so we do not live in a perfect world.
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there are a lot of priorities, a lot of interests, that pull you in any given direction at any given moment and even though unemployment as you know is incredibly low, inflation is stubbornly high. has it hit its peak yet? it is hard to say which makes voting on this issue, on inflation and the economy so difficult. so here is what steve ratner suggested. keep in mind, consider tax cuts, ones that will help you, not the wealthy or the corporations. consider entitlements like medicare, and what are politicians saying about those programs that will affect you. consider prescription drug prices and health care promises, and how do they affect you? and also, consider climate change, which ratner says it is not just an environmental but economic, the government says we have already spent 29 billion this year alone, on addressing the effects of climate disasters like hurricanes and fires. that is a lot of money. now, did not steve ratner and anyone tell you how to vote,
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because how any of this affects you is personal, only you can decide. that just know that all of these policies that you're deciding on take time to take effect. and that no matter what anyone promises, there is no immediate fix to your economic woes. and by the way, inflation or rates, fed rates, with paul volker, in 1980, got up to 17%. a lot higher than we are right now. anyway, coming up next, the state where voters tomorrow won't just be deciding on who will represent them, they're also voting on a total abortion ban. something that has been on the books since the 1930s, and whether they should let it stand. let it stand. like the subway series menu. just buy any footlong in the app, and get one free. free monsters, free bosses, any footlong for free! this guy loves a great offer. so let's see some hustle! we planned well for retirement, but i wish we had
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since 1931 permanently unenforceable. it could be a big difference maker on the ballot. joining me now from michigan is nbc news washington correspondent yamiche alcindor. >> good afternoon, i'm here at springfield michigan at a rally for tudor dixon, a republican running for governor and just behind me she is expected to take the stage and running against proposal 3 which is this referendum voted on to enshrine voting rights into the michigan constitution. i was speaking to tudor dixon supporters this afternoon and here is what they told me. >> i am pretty much against abortion and the way that pop session is worded, it is just not something i want. >> i want women to have equal care and i want them to have safe care, and i don't feel like proposal 3 would give the opportunity with the lingo that is written in that.
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and i also believe in giving all children a chance. >> reporter: so you heard it here, the people that are at this rally are pretty much against proposal 3. everyone here that i've talked to is, and they were of course taking issue with the way that the proposal is worded. so i want to put up for people what exactly voters in the state will see when they go to cast their ballots and the proposal says this, to establish new individual rights for reproductive freedom including the right to make all decisions about pregnancy, and abortion, it also allows the state to regulate abortion, in some cases, but it forbids the prosecution of individuals exercising that right. so there wouldn't be any cation to be able to prosecute a woman if she did have an abortion, and the governor running against tudor dixon, gretchen whitmer, she has made it a key part of her arguments, and protect women and needs to happen and has been behind proposal 3 and a lot of activists on the ground organizing to make sure that
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that passes and i'm talking to people that they are fairly confident the proposal will pass and it is still a tight race and tudor dixon has been able to make some inroads here, so it is a tight race to watch, and definitely something we're going to keep our eye on. >> yamiche, is this a constitutional amendment to make a requirement, does that be an amendment to the constitution? >> it would enshrine the abortion rights into the state constitution and tudor dixon said if she won the governorship and if proposal 3 passes, she would respect the will of the people and she would continue to have those rights and protect those rights. >> thank you very much. and that is going to do it for me today. remember if you're voting on the economy, vote on it smartly. hallie jackson picks up our coverage next. kson picks up our coverage next.
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