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some of the left say it's symbolic of abortion rights, some on the right say it signifies a coming red wave. we'll soon find out. either way, this blood moon should definitely be a reminder of all that is at stake, in these midterms. so if you have not already, when you get up to if he had that lunar eclipse, when i grab a cup of coffee, and get yourself to the polls, and vote. and on that important voting note, i wish you all a very good night. from all of our colleagues across the networks of him he's the news, thank you for staying up late, and we should enjoy msnbc for live coverage and analysis, and the midterm elections, as we break down the results, as the votes are coming in and counted, special election coverage starts right here at 6 pm. i will see hassan for that coverage, and without a doubt, right here at the end of tomorrow until 2 am. stick around. stick around
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this is, by the way, the first time i've ever campaign for a democrat. >> it's the first nationwide vote since an american insurrection. >> we need to get back to the policies the of the real donald trump. ohio needs an ass kicker, not ask sir. >> now with 36 states voted for governor. >> republicans will never lose another election in wisconsin. >> 35 senate seats up for grabs. >> you have to know stuff to do this job. >> all 435 house that's in play. >> i means that the government is shut down, i'll be calling for a government shutdown. >> and fear that this free and fair election would be the last. >> make no mistake, democracy in the ballot for all of us. >> tonight, special election eve coverage, with nicole wallace, joy reid, chris hayes, alex wagner, lawrence o'donnell, ari melber, stephanie ruhle, steve kornacki, the big boy, and the msnbc political insiders. special coverage of the 2022 midterm elections begins now.
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♪ ♪ ♪ >> good evening from msnbc headquarters. i'm rachel maddow, joined here in our brand new election studio by my colleagues, nicole wallace, and joy reid, and chris hayes, and lawrence o'donnell. tomorrow is the final day that we can all vote in this year's big midterm elections. of course many, many, many americans have already cast their votes on this election day eve. we can now report that over 42 million americans have already cast their ballot, that is significantly more early votes than were cast in the last
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midterm election in 2018. and that one overall had record turnout. americans are turning out in record numbers. now, for folks who are pulling it off to the variant, and have not yet voted, candidates antichoice across the country, tonight, they're making a frantic final push to try to get voters after the polls. at this hour, president biden has just wrapped up a rally in maryland, in westmore, the democratic candidate for governor and four other maryland democrats. on the republican side, former president donald trump is about to take the stage in ohio, where the tight race for an open senate seat there may decide who controls the senate overall. trump has previously insulted and tried to humiliate the republican contender for that senate race in ohio, jd vance, but tonight, he is in ohio with tents to support his campaign. today's new nbc news poll, the last one before the election, finds that likely voters are almost exactly evenly split on which party they want to control congress. 48% say they vote for democratic control. 47% say they prefer republican control. that is a tie. but that same poll also had some unexpected and heartening news for democrats.
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since last month, democratic enthusiasm levels have gone up, why republicans have decreased. just a month ago, republican voters held a nine-point edge on enthusiasm about the election. now, as of today, democrats have caught up, and it is actually even between the two parties. that enthusiasm measure is considered an important factor, in terms of who will turn out at the polls tomorrow. but if you have to pick just one thing to learn, one thing to be cognizant of this election eve it's this. democrats and republicans are voting differently, meaning they are voting by different methods. nbc's new poll today shows that voters who want democrats to control congress voted early by a 2 to 1 margin. voters who want republicans to control congress are not doing that, by a 2 to 1 margin, pro republican voters plan to vote tomorrow on election day itself. bottom line, the vote for people who would vote on
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election day tomorrow will lean republican. the early vote will lean democrat. and that is at the one thing to keep in mind as we all head into the incredible circus and joy that's election results tomorrow. that is why republicans all over the country have been laying the groundwork for early votes and absentee votes, and mail-in votes to be seen a suspect, or somehow less legitimate. already, republicans have filed lawsuits that have gotten certain early vote ballots tossed out in states like pennsylvania and wisconsin. republicans, from former president trump on down, have been telling their supporters that they ought to be suspicious of any vote counts that take a long time. trump lawyer, rudy giuliani today, saying that only the ballots that are tallied in the first few hours should count. and any ballots counted later than that should be seen as a suspect. the reason they are doing this is because in many states, the same day election day votes, the ones that are disproportionately republican, those votes are counted first, only after that do they start
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tallying up the early votes which lean democratic. so, tomorrow, we should all expect that in many states, the first tallies would look relatively good for republicans, and then, republican leans will begin to shrink as the night goes on, and as the vote counting stretches into the late evening overnight into wednesday, and even longer. we know now, to expect how protests from republicans who will insist that somehow suspected, it is voter fraud and election rigging going on. they will demand the vote counting stop, they will file even more losses on the top of dozens they already have to try to disqualify early voter democratic votes. but knowing it's coming doesn't stop it from happening. it does help us know what it
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means when it does come. but setting those expectations is probably the best thing that we can all do for ourselves, for our family members, for our friends, in terms of being real, being patient, and not jumping to conclusions about tomorrow night results. joining us now for the first time is the great steve kornacki at the big board. steve, tell us what's important from this big final nbc news this out today? >> yes, sort of conflicting signals i think you can say. you had the headline there. that was the likely voter model results, so registered voters, basically saying here though the generic ballot, asking folks which part you want to have control of congress, registered voters that even, 47, 47. if you are a democrat, you spent the year here in about, impending red wave, obviously, this is welcome news for you. in the final nbc news poll before the election. underneath these numbers, though, there are some pretty strong headwinds that are working against democrats here. it's an interesting test between this number and what's underneath the number. and it starts with this. it starts with the presidents job approval rating. we have seen, it's not common, but we've seen in history some parties defy the trend where the white house's party suffers losses, generally big losses in
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midterm election's. they don't tend to do it when the president's approval rating is where joe biden is right now. 44% in our final poll, a majority disapproving, we've seen biden's number hovering in this area for a long time in our polling. to put this in some context, final nbc news poll, for recent presidents before their first midterm, you can see it right here, biden's number is right in that range, look, trump was 46 in 2018. obama was 45 in 2010. you know, in 2018, republicans lost the house 40 seats in 2010, democrats lost the house 63 seats. you see the outlier, this is the kind of approval rating george w. bush was in 2002, 63%, that's the kind of approval rating it typically takes for a white house party to defy history and have a good midterm in this case, the republicans
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picked up a handful of seats in 2002. so just on the approval rating, which is historically driven midterm results in a lot of ways, biden is right and that danger zone, and democrats are right in that danger zone. you layer on top of that the feelings, the environment, the attitude, when it comes to the economy, our poll finding that more than eight in ten voters say they are dissatisfied with the current state of the economy. we haven't seen a number that high on this question since 2009, 2010, around the time of the crash, the great recession. that period of time. and then, when you ask people straight-up, with the most important issue, as you make up your mind, it is, economy and cost of living, inflation. those two combined for 37% here in terms of being the top issue. and the folks who cite that at their, as their top issue are breaking in our poll four republicans by a 43 point margin. because the headwinds that democrats have against them here, sort of historically speaking, and in terms of the climate we are in right now, what are democrats counting on to try to counter all of that? well, you could see this issue of threats to democracy, which comes in as the second most important issue on peoples
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minds. democrats, on this issue, have an advantage of 68 points on the generic ballot. and then, there's also the issue of abortion, obviously brought to the four by supreme court decision, just under one in ten voters i think that is their most important issue. and again, it's a tremendous democratic advantage there, 45 points. so, there are some issues besides the economy and inflation where democrats have pronounced advantages. and then, as you said in the beginning, there is simply that shift, there are poll findings, we'll see what tomorrow brings, but our poll says that our enthusiasm, there's been a change in the last several weeks where democrats have withdrawn. and even i think that the ultimate wild in this election tomorrow. we are looking at probable turnout when all is said and done of somewhere in the neighborhood of 120 230 million voters, for a midterm election. just eight years ago in the
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2014 midterm, 85 million people voted in it. that's how much interest in politics has risen over the last decade, to be a level that high, it would have been unthinkable before. and, so it shows this is the ultimate variable. are we at a point in this midterm elections where democrats may get voters motivated who in the past would not have been? maybe they're not wild about biden, maybe they're not wild about the economy, but maybe, there is a -- idea there are voting against republicans, voting against donald trump, maybe that kind of thing, or environment now, where it can drive turnout in a way that it hasn't in the past midterms. basically, if democrats walk away with a good night tomorrow and our poll does give them a couple of things to be hopeful about, if they walk away with a good night, i kind of see the rules of politics we reaching a little bit. >> steve kornacki, thank you very much. i would say that last point that steve was making about quantitative analysis, versus qualitative analysis.
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i don't feel all that surprised. it seems that what people are saying they care about, and how those numbers breakdown. but thinking about 120 230 million people turning out, already breaking midterm turnout records. i mean, that's -- to me, that's surprising, and that makes it feel unpredictable. >> i remember 2014 very well, because you know, i started the show in 2013. and it was the first election i covered at all in. and there was not a lot of interest. believe me. like, people did not tune in -- >> your way to reach out in the country to -- >> yeah, and you can feel it, right it was hard to get people motivated. it was the store the final act of the obama presidency. so i think people were sort of a little bit checked out. they kind of recovered from the great recession. double trump did not come on the scene yet. so, just looking at that 14 million vote difference, right? between 85 and 125. the only thing i will say is this. i do worry about expectations for tomorrow on the right, for this reason. conservative media has told its base there is no question what is happening tomorrow, it is a red wave. it is going to be a landslide. and it may be. it may be one of those elections where you see some random democratic governor go down, where no one thought was
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gonna go down, right? early in the night, some congress, member of congress, who no one thought had a contested race, loses to an unknown. >> it ends up being 60 states. >> exactly, that's when you know you are in that kind of like a huge landslide. it may be that. i don't know. the polling data is not that clear. it could also be a pulling us in the other direction such as democrats have a fairly decent night. and i do worry the expectation has been so set in republican conservative spines, this is going to be an enormous red wave landslide, that should that not come, we know what the answer will be provided to them about why, not a pulling this, like democrats had to deal with 2016, or in 2020, where they lost a lot of seats they should have. not all the polling was wrong, that measurement was wrong, turnout was different than we thought. look, and the data, there was all these confounding signals that turned out democrats -- we know what the answer will be, and i'm very worried about that. >> and we've already got 40
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plus percent of republican voters saying they don't trust this year's midterm election results, even before we've got them. >> and i think we have to think about, as media in general, not just conservative media, you know, i think in general, the media has created an expectation where republicans, i think it would be bad if they can just say fox news set it. but i think in general, the general zeitgeist of the media coverage is that the red wave is coming, because a lot of the polling averages are saying that for a lot of the polling average is filled with a lot of junk peoples. and so, i think one of the issue -- >> and there's just uncertainty. >> and no one knows. and so, i think there's a risk. i think we, as the media, have to start to think about what are the incentives to presuppose anything? the only vote that really counts, the only poll that really counts is the vote, right? that's the one that is real. and i think what you said earlier is really important. the way that campaigns are thinking about this tonight is that democrats campaigns, at large, they're saying okay, you know we are racing about a 4 million vote lead in terms of
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what the electorate looks like that is voting early. the real data, not the polling, but the data. democrats, the way the electorate looks, it's about 53% women. that says to me that there's a huge amount of energy that is being driven by a thing that women care about, what is that thing? it's roe. i feel that we've been undercounting it, and under covering it since the summer. women just don't get over the idea that they no longer on their bodies. that's not something that they say, hey, you know, it was a little cheaper. i'll probably get over it. that isn't something that happens. so when i look at the electorate and the way that campaigns are looking at it, they're saying, can republicans catch up to that 4 million vote lead on election day? because that's when they are voting. and it used to be, back in the day, when i used to be on the other side of the campaign with that pretty lady over there, is that we would say, okay, we've got an early vote in, because young voters, black voters in particular, college students,
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people have to work hourly jobs, that's your democratic electorate. they vote early. that's your early voter, so to the polls, right? and then on election day, it used to be awash. you know what the defense used to be? absentee, because in 2004, we really thought, okay, democrats are gonna do okay. and then the absentee from republicans wiped out the democrats. and in 2014 thing, too. now the trump has turned republicans against absentee, we know absentee is probably leaning d, and now, the only question is can they get it done that one day? >> that's exactly right. >> i think, too, there was something that both don't pick up when women are deleting their ovulation trackers. they're gonna be like, delete, delete. this is when i'm voting. you know, you're gonna blow -- but it's unknown unknown. >> so, just to be clear, you both think that the importance of abortion as a driver for democratic voters that abortion is being -- >> i don't know. >> it's not showing up in the polls, you think is stronger than it looks. >> i think it's a noble. because i think if you don't trust your apple watch to track your period, you're not
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responding how much you can't, whether you care a lot or not at all. it doesn't answer the question. i don't know if you're taking those calls anymore, if you are that kind of voter. i also think that this idea that the dogs vote early, it's 50 years the president was overturned. you don't get over it, in like 12 weeks. i also think that the trap that the right set is that if you care about democracy, you are indifferent to economic angst. you are not. i have watched all these democratic candidates, they all understand, and i bet you they all know the price of milk, meat and bread, and all of their grocery stores in their districts or in their states. so, i think republicans said the strap, and i think that's another flaw on the media.
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the third thing is something change in the last seven days. i talk to candidates and pennsylvania, strategists in michigan, they all said that this weekend felt totally different than last weekend. >> why? >> i'm not sure. i mean, i'm not sure if it's that last jobs number. i think because on the sort of a political magic that will get out there, and he was like, this is how you do it. he tried to cover democracy, and economy, and he was starting to sort of -- i mean, you look at the josh shapiro speech from saturday night. and this tells you too much about my saturday night. [laughs] >> i'm like, oh my god, who is that? shapiro is channeling obama, obama is channeling the majority of americans who don't want to think to choose between the price of milk and living in a democracy. you can have both. you know, i think if that sunk and, and saying there won't be a red wave. we won't know until tomorrow. >> that's right. >> i'm gonna take my place in the audience for the rest of this program. [laughs] -- i have no idea what's gonna come -- >> i would like to sit next to you, i have no idea either! >> and i'll just give one footnote about why i have no idea. i have given up thinking about these kinds of elections, congressional elections, literally for decades, for the following reason. you got to be 40 years old in this country, when i was about
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40 years old, without ever having seen that republicans control the house of representatives. [laughs] -- ever in my lifetime, okay? and then, in 1994, the republicans won the house, and they win the senate in what is bill clinton's first midterm election was. here's who predicted that. not a living soul. [laughs] -- no one predicted that the republicans are gonna win the house for the first time in 40 years, and no one predicted that the 57 democrats in the senate were the next day going to become the minority. no one predicted it. and i was working in the senate at that time. i had to move from a big office and the majority side, to a cubicle on the minority side of the building. and i knew then what william goldman and the great screenwriter headset about show business years before that, no one knows anything. and so, eight predictive, the
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predictive elements of tonight's discussion, i will listen to. i have nothing to contribute. >> i, mean what you are all predicting is that what's important is what happens tomorrow, and the polls thus far have been interesting but nothing as joy put it, the only poll that matters is the vote. a man who knows that better than all of us put together, joins us now. he is mandela barnes, the lieutenant governor of the great state of wisconsin. is the democratic candidate challenging republican incumbent senator ron johnson in a race that is absolutely crucial for both sides. lieutenant governor barnes, real pleasure to have you with us tonight. thank you so much for making time. >> well, thank you so much for having me, really excited about this campaign, excited about the position we are in, and about the momentum we've been seeing. really glad to have a conversation with you all. >> well, tell us about that moment, and we've all been discussing here how much we feel like tomorrow is a black box, and that anything seems possible. nicole has been saying that she
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feels like particularly in the last week, some of the polls indicate this, it does feel like there's some democratic momentum. and the democrats in places where they've been behind, feel like they're catching up. when you say that you've got momentum heading into tomorrow, what does that look like in practical terms from your campaign? >> well, i'll tell you, i'm actually in my rv right now, if this looks at it will be troubling from the middle of wisconsin. we just hit our hundred stop in 15 days. and i can tell you, the quotes that have been showing up are all across wisconsin, enthusiasm is very real. and the best thing about it is, these are folks that i haven't seen before ever. these are the same people i showed up four years ago. they aren't the people who are coming to campaign, throughout this campaign. that's the most exciting part about it. and the energy is, you know, it's felt from older generation, people are frustrated about the fact that ron johnson wants to take away social security and medicare. it's young people are frustrated about the fact that they have a senator who call climate change bs, and also, women in general all across wisconsin were frustrated that
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one of their senators told them that they can, that they don't like the law it's, like our 1849 criminal abortion ban. but if you know, races in wisconsin are notoriously close. the last three november elections were decided with about 30,000 votes or fewer. we need all the help to get over the hump. if votes go to mandela barnes. com, and help us out in this last minute, everything goes a long way to help us beat ron johnson. >> lieutenant governor, chris hayes here. i've a very clear memory of about two or three in the morning the day after the election in 2020, when there was big votes, vote tallies happening in the state of wisconsin, particularly around milwaukee that showed joe biden pulling into a mathematically plausible situation that you
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might win your state, and that might mean the election. what does your expectations, for yourself and setting, in terms of how long it's gonna take to cut these votes, because wisconsin, like pennsylvania, is a state where the republican legislator has not allowed state officials to count those early votes. so, how are you just thinking about the timeline of tomorrow night? >> well, i'll tell you, i'm prepared to talk to as many people as i can, personally, all the way until 8 pm tomorrow night when polls close. and we are ready to be awake as long as it takes until the last ballot discounted. you know, we were up, late at night four years ago in 2018. and we've been through this before. we are not afraid to go through it again. but the reality is, yes, people like ron johnson who won't even commit to accepting the election results, i am committed to accepting the election results because i value democracies, while ron johnson doesn't. with that being said, there are a lot of folks who haven't been putting in countless hours, whether it's the blues on the ground, or the people who, are you know working the polls, making sure that democracy functions properly, keeping
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peoples ballots safe and secure, protecting the right to vote. >> we've got a democratic senate candidate, lieutenant governor mandela barnes, sir, we know this is the busiest of all nice for you. thank you for joining us tonight, good luck to you. >> of course, thank you so much for having me. >> by nbc's accounts, there are at least 276 republican candidates running for office tomorrow, including mandela barnes's opponent, ron johnson, who refused to accept the results of the last election at one level or another. what will that mean for whether they accept the results of this next one tomorrow? that is next. stay with us. ♪ ♪ ♪ honey. yeah. i respect that. but that cough looks pretty bad. try this robitussin honey. the real honey you love, plus the powerful cough relief you need. mind if i root through your trash? robitussin. the only brand with real honeyand elderberry.
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the majority of them are election deniers. more than half of those election deniers are expected to win the races. this is a really unprecedented phenomenon, and in covering this election, we are having to treat it as such. tomorrow night, for the first time ever, we, here at msnbc, are gonna have a team of 15 people, just following the election deniers, keeping track of who among them wins, who among them concedes when they lose, and who among them refuses to concede despite the results. one of the races we're gonna be watching closely is one in new hampshire, between democratic u.s. senator maggie hassan, and her republican challenger,
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retired general and election denier named don bolduc. last week, mr. bolduc got an endorsement from former president donald trump, and that endorsement, i kid you not, trump overtly described bolduc as, quote, a strong and proud election denier. he wants people to know he is an election denier, and he is proud of it. that's why you should support him. for whatever reason, mr. bolduc has decided not to mention that trump endorsement publicly, not even once since it happened. but the latest polling in this new hampshire race is close, it is within the margin of error close. joining us now live is maggie hassan, democratic senator for new hampshire. senator hassan, it's nice to see you. we know you are very, very busy tonight. thank you for making a few
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minutes to be here with us. >> it's great to be with you. >> senator hassan, i wanted to ask you, as somebody who is an incumbent senator, as somebody who is very much a moderate and has that reputation, somebody who has a reputation both as a workhorse not a show horse, somebody who works at both sides of the aisle. i wanted to ask, given the challenge that you are facing from sort of the far-right with your competitor, has anything surprised you, in terms of what new hampshire residents want to talk to you about? what they are saying they care about? what they want to hear from you about? >> look, i am all over the state right now talking to grant status where they are. and what i'm hearing about is of course, inflation, and we are talking about the work i've done across party lines to do things like ben surprise medical bills and lower peoples health care costs, or the chips and signs act which would bring supply chains back to the united states, and help lower inflation that way. people are very, very concerned about home heating costs here in new hampshire as we face wintertime. and we are talking about the steps we've taken to help with that, too. but i am whole so hearing about concerns, concerns about extremism. and my opponents extremism you just talked about it, don bolduc is an election denier, spent over years stoking the big lie about 2020 in our state. he is actively casting doubt on
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tomorrow's results in new hampshire, a state that has some of the best elections in the country. and has said that if in 2024, his preferred presidential candidate doesn't win, he, as a united states senator, if he were to be in the senate would vote to overturn that election. people are concerned about that, because of its extreme nature and how undemocratic, small deed that is. but they are also really concerned about the combination of an election denier, like my opponent, with his extreme agenda that would raise their costs and illustrate their personal rights. so, you know, if you have an election denier or an office, what it ultimately means is that they can impose an extreme agenda. don would bolduc eliminate social security, and be a yes vote for a nationwide abortion ban, because they don't think they're accountable to you. >> senator, it's lawrence o'donnell. only go to that point you just mentioned about social security, what are new hampshire voters telling you about that? because an issue like social security has been part of these kinds of campaigns for decades now. you now have the highest cost of living in adjustment in social security in many years, in fact, in decades, because
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inflation is so high. and the social security payments are paid to that inflation to keep pace with it. so many republicans have worked for many years to try to cut that cost of living, increase, and to cut social security itself. but it doesn't seem to penetrate in these campaigns. >> well, so, one of the real issues in my campaign is that my opponent keeps trying to conceal his position. so, he is on record, on video, saying he would eliminate social security. that position has been confirmed by independent fact-checker's. but he denies it, when asked about it, and he is being backed up by over $60 million in money from national republican super pacs, who are trying to buy an election denier. u.s. senate seats, and so, part of our job is to make sure that
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people understand how extreme his position is, that he is trying to conceal that from people. people want us to protect their social security, they want us to protect medicare. you also would privatized medicare and make over a trillion dollars in cuts to it. but he's also trying to conceal that. and so, that's the real rub here, you know, in a recent debate, don bolduc said that he was sick of talking about election denial. he wasn't gonna answer any more questions about it. this is somebody who believes he can refuse to accept results of an election, so he really doesn't think he has to engage with state voters or be honest with them. and voters to care about this, i am hearing a lot about it. but they also care about other
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things like inflation, and like a woman's fundamental freedom. >> maggie hassan, democratic senator for new hampshire, for reelection against don bolduc, the republican candidate. senator hassan, we know this is a really busy night. thank you for making time tonight, and good luck to you. >> and thank you. and rachel, just one last thing i will say, we also are really encouraging people to still get engaged in the campaign at maggie hassan. com. >> well done. you'd be missed if we -- it is amazing to be talking to senate candidates in wisconsin and new hampshire, we just spoke to those candidates, to know one of the things they have to be contending with is that there republican opponent, if the republican loses, will likely not acknowledge the results of the election. and that's one of the things that these campaigns have to contend with. we've all covered a lot of elections. we've never had to contend with this at a systemic level. all right, when we come back, we're gonna go to our panel of political insiders, on something that nicole and joy, both say maybe misstated by the polls right now. the importance of abortion rights on the ballot tomorrow, whether the polls accurately capture it, that's next. stay with us. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪
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tomorrow's election shows that when you ask democratic likely voters what their top concern is heading into the election, their number one answer is threats to democracy. but right after that, it is abortion rights. for more on that, we turn now to our colleague alex wagner and the all-star team of political insiders she is with. alex, over to you.
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>> thanks rachel. in five states, michigan, kentucky, montana, california, and vermont, abortion is literally on the ballot tomorrow. depending on what happens in races elsewhere, we could see entire regions of the country becoming deserts for reproductive freedom. this is a map of the midwest, illinois is the only state there where abortion is actively protected. michigan's 1931 triggered law that would ban all abortions has been blocked in courts. tomorrow, michigan voters will decide on an amendment that would enshrine abortion rights in the state's constitution. the states in the southeast are even higher. pretty much it all comes down to north carolina and whether the state legislature welcomes the republican super majority tomorrow. if that happens, it could effectively cut off abortion access for an entire region of the united states. whether it's in a ballot measure or in the hands of state lawmakers, the matter of choice is being voted on across the united states tomorrow.
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is that reality enough to energize democratic voters to turn out? we will ask our insiders right here. joining me now are former white house press secretary free -- former democratic senator, and former chair michael steele. thank you, my team of insiders. jen and clare, let's start with you. in terms of that map, it is confusing, right? i think a lot of people don't fully understand the reality of the a on reproductive freedoms and what american women can be waking up to after november 8th. has the confusion around what is prohibited, what is allowed, what is on the ballot, do you think that has anyway confused interim voters and undermine the sense of urgency that might otherwise be felt among independents or moderate republicans on this issue? >> look, i think it could. we don't know yet. the fact is that this is motivating women across the country, no question. a lot of people it is motivating our progressive white women. the people who will be most impacted our lower income communities and communities of color. i do think that when the dust clears, whatever happens in the
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election, this is going to be one of those issues that people are going to wake up wednesday, thursday, friday, whatever day we know more, and they may be confused about what the outcome is. they may not thought about that. they may not know what access they have because it does goes back to the states. >> this may be the first chapter. this is going to be an evolving situation. as more and more women confront the reality of the states. in my state, the government is going to force birth on a rape victim. end of story. now they're talking about ways to get at the abortion pill, which has become the method of choice now and a lot of that is
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going online. that would have to be done nationally. hopefully we have a good day tomorrow and we slow this thing down but if we don't, the republicans will continue to go too far and this will continue to be a growing issue for our party on the positive side. >> as more women face this reality, as the laws take effect. >> your daughter, your neighbor, your aunt. >> do you think republicans are, part of metaphor, prepared to live in the house that they are effectively building at the stage? >> i don't think they understand the full extent of what you've just heard here. the impact that it can have, and we'll have, and is already happening in respect to some women across the country. a lot of the -- many are pro-life, in every sense of that word. they are appalled by what
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they're seeing happening in the states in which they live and watching which type of legislation are being imposed, and the impact is having on women who don't share their views. it is happening to women. i don't think they're fully prepared for what comes next. there is always that thing in politics, you can beat your chest about a lot of stuff until you actually have to act on it. they don't know what to do in the space because as we've already seen, we have gone from oh, the locals, the states can decide to, the national bands. lindsey graham. the men don't know quite yet what to do for the women. >> the men don't know to begin with. we are going to leave it there for the moment. jen psaki, michael steele, thank you all for your wisdom and insights. rachel, back over to you. >> thank you alex. the great state of nevada is one of those states where the experts and much of the polling are basically saying that tomorrow is a tie, it looks like a tie in all the important races, there's no way to tell what is gonna happen. we are gonna go live to nevada for a closer look next, stay with us. psoriasis really messes with you. try. hope. fail. no one should suffer like that. i started cosentyx®. five years clear. real people with psoriasis look and feel better with cosentyx. don't use if you're allergic to cosentyx.
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was 2018, that midterm set a record for voter turnout which is great. but as of today, the early vote this year has far surpassed what we had in 2018. the early vote then was 39 million votes. as of today, we are closer to 43 million votes. it is a record number of people who have already voted this year. given those huge early voting numbers, one candidate in one of the most closely watched senate races in the country
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sound of the long today that the first returns, the initial vote count that will first get reported tomorrow will likely have a partisan skew that won't reflect the final tally. democratic u.s. senate candidate john fetterman, today he sent out basically a warning flare about what to expect tomorrow, why should jump to conclusions when you see the first returns. he said in part, quote, republicans are already laying the groundwork to potentially spread false conspiracy theories about ballot processing in pennsylvania. the reality is pennsylvania law
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means in person both the skew republican tend to disproportionately be counted and reported before democratic leading mail-in votes. ballots cast by mail and early in person votes cannot be counted until election day, thanks to the republican controlled legislature. which he calls, and intentional move to help republicans basically sow doubt about the election results when it suits them. he says quote, we should expect one of the most dramatic shifts in the country from initial republican support in earlier results to stronger democratic gains as more votes are processed. so, pennsylvania, we are likely to get results quite late. same goes for arizona, same goes for maybe new hampshire. one other state will things look like they will be incredibly close and where we almost certainly will not know results tomorrow night's nevada.
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katherine cortez mastiff and a tough battle for reelection to his second term, as is democratic governor steve cisa. like joining us from the count -- by far the largest county in the state, it is our beloved jacob, msnbc correspondent. thanks for joining us. >> hi rachel, it's great to see you. you are 100 percent right, it is not going to be an early night here in nevada. i've been inside this building as a matter fact for the last couple of years, the man in charge of elections here in the largest election jurisdiction in the state. he was kind enough to invite us inside to show us all the machinery of democracy. they've been doing mail-in voting here, in person early voting. and like you mentioned in pennsylvania, those votes are actually counted in advance, processed in advance of tomorrow. they won't be calculated until tomorrow. they are some of the votes that come out of this building tore night. he is the one who told me, i don't get authority, i'm not just making this up, it's not going to be an early night here in nevada tomorrow night. inside this building, the vote could go on, the count could go on for days and days. he explained to me why, take a look at what he had to say. >> if it's close, there's a chance we might not know the results until around ten days from election day. that is correct. >> we have statutory deadlines that we have to stand by. the counties on monday, i can't even read a precision about until i get a report, that could be tuesday afternoon or wednesday morning. >> you heard that right, ten days from election day. but joe gloria insist, that is
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not because they are slow or bad at their job, that is what the law says here. he in fashion he says, that is not reason for people to doubt the vote. on the contrary, people should have great faith in the integrity of the vote. his opponent stayed outside this building after election day, he allege thousands of illegal votes were cast and counted inside that building. it turned out to be a totally bogus accusation, including the republican secretary of state saying this after an independent investigation. all of that will go on in this building, joe glory insists that the process they use, what might not be fast, it's best process for getting a fair and accurate count. so everyone's votes are counted. >> even what we saw there in 2020, given that scene that you just described. what happened in the parking
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lot, the kind of wild claims that were made by arizona, nevada conservatives and republicans, have they had to make contingency plans for that kind of pressure, that kind of criticism? potentially that kind of physical pressure on the counting site? >> yeah, it was announced today that the department of justice are sending monitors all across the country to monitor potential civil rights violations when it comes to the vote. i asked glory about that as well, he said i just want everyone to be clear, is not because we have had violations but it is in order to watch and pretend those kinds of violations from happening. those are other jurisdictions were not welcoming to the
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federal department of justice. he says, i welcome them with open arms, there's a lot of security here. you can probably see the police lights flashing on my face. there was not that kind of presence here two years ago when we were there for the presidential election. they have brought up security here. >> jacob, correspondent, thank you so much for your time tonight. it's gonna be fascinating to watch nevada tomorrow with all those races. all right, we have much more to talk about this election eve. including, what jacob just mentioned, there doj announcing today that they will be sending election monitors to 24 different states. we are seeing at least one republican-controlled states saying no, they reject the justice department monitors. we are also could be taking a look at the senate race in north carolina. it's all coming up after this, don't go. away away ♪ ♪ ♪♪ voltaren. the joy of movement. ♪♪
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election eve. coverage here on msnbc, this is like christmas, birthday, and all the obscure religious holidays rolled into one. i'm rachel maddow, joined in studio by my colleague chris hayes and joy reid, alex wagner. and of course, our beloved steve kornacki at the big board, getting warmed up for the big day which will likely last month.
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some election years, there are one or two senate races that are just incredibly tight. some election years, one really tenet senate race can decide who controls the whole u.s. senate. but this year, there is a whole slew of incredibly tight anything could happen senate races. and any one of them could decide who controls the senate. just a sampling, in pennsylvania democratic person -- completely tied up. in georgia, herschel walker challenging democratic senator raphael warnock, completely
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tied up. in arizona, mark kelly facing a challenge from republican blake masters, completely tied up. in nevada, catherine cortez masto facing a challenge from adam laxalt. say it with me, completely tied up. in wisconsin, ron johnson being challenged by democratic senator. in new hampshire, maggie being challenged by republican dan baltic, tied up. all of them, each of them just incredibly tight. many of them with final polls well inside the margin of error. the outcome in any of those races could make the difference between the senate led by chuck schumer, a senate that for instance would continue to confirm president biden's judicial appointments.
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and a republican run senate in which anything president biden might want would be guaranteed dead on arrival under mitch mcconnell. those are the no kidding, anything could happen steaks tonight for the country. joining us now with a final look at it is a great steve kornacki at the big board. steve, where does the battle for control of the senate stand tonight? looking at the individual polls, it feels like oh, it is a tie. you have to wait and see. can you see any more clarity than that in the polls thus far? >> one thing, when you joke about it potentially being that, it might be a month. that is one thing i will show. you take a look here, basically battle for the senate, 50/50 right now. republicans needing a net gain of one seat. in blue here, you are the most vulnerable democratic held seats. that's where republicans are playing offense, trying to get
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that gain. in red, you see the most vulnerable republican held seats, that's where democrats are trying to get gains of their own's to counter anything that republicans were able to get. let's go through here, probably the four top targets for republicans in terms of getting pickups, needing at least one here to get control of the senate. let's go through here. there are all sorts of different poll numbers, all different averages, we put two different averages that are out there. the 5:38 average, just kind of give you a sense of how folks are looking at the numbers coming in in these races. here in nevada for instance, not much of a difference between these two poll averages. they both suggest slightly laxalt ahead of cortez masto. essentially, almost even, tied, consistent with what we showed you at the very top of the broadcast. a generic ballot that is sitting there, 47, 47. in other words, this is
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possible for democrats, this is that seat that republicans are looking for to get that net gain and give them the senate. same thing in arizona, look at the two polling averages there. they point to an extremely tight race. in georgia, not only do you have polling average is pointing to an extremely tight race, you have the added one in georgia, a third candidate. probably going to get two, 3% of the vote. if neither warnock nor walker, herschel walker, i should say walker walker gets 50. 1% of the plus one, it will go to a runoff. again, this one is a bit of a surprise. it arrived late on the scene, it is an interesting story because national republicans tried to find all sorts of candidates in -- they kept getting nose. they ended up with don bullock as their nominee, the kind of rotisserie of. as the polling, it has been extremely close late here in new hampshire. a late arrival republican pick up opportunity. the bottom line is, between nevada, arizona, georgia, new hampshire, republicans looking for at least one pick up. what that does for democrats, i think the bottom line is they really underscore the supreme importance for democrats of pennsylvania because i think when you look at the polling,
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pennsylvania is far and away the best pick up opportunity that democrats have. remember, that tattoo me republican incumbent. it is an open seat. if you look at the polling there, look at those two averages, one tenth of a point, three tenths of a point. this is where democrats, if they can win pennsylvania they would get a net gain. look at it this way. if democrats win pennsylvania, they are at 50 for the minute, let's say that would put them at 51. for the sake of argument, let's say republicans pick off nevada, that would put it back to 50/50. democrats would still control the senate. that is the value of pennsylvania to them, it can offset a loss in one of these blue states. and then there is that scenario i'm talking about, the one month scenario. let's say here that democrats succeed in picking off pennsylvania, let's say republican succeed in picking up nevada, plus the republicans there. let's say that nobody gets to 50% in georgia. then you would be in a situation where republicans could come out on election night with 50, democrats could come out with 49 and there would be one undecided race.
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that would be georgia. then we would await the results of a georgia runoff where, if warnock won the runoff, the democrats would get back to 50/50, control the senate with kamala harris. or, if walker won the runoff, it would be 51, 49 and republicans would have control. if it goes to a georgia runoff, that would be december 6th. if georgia is the deciding state, we will be waiting until december six, at least, because it could take a day or two to get the results of the runoff, to find out who controls the senate. >> of course, it has to be the sixth. like we are not having déjà vu all over again, like we are not thinking, well the last time we were waiting on a georgia runoff, what was that like for the country? and then the sixth. steve kornacki, thank you. joining us now is u.s. senator from the great state of michigan. senator peters, he is not in contention this year. but, he is in charge of democrats contending for all of them. he is the chair of the democratic senatorial campaign committee, which is tasked with defending democratic incumbent senators and electing new democrats to the senate. senator peters, thank you so much for joining us tonight. you are the busiest man on earth.
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>> well, it's great to be with you, thanks for having me on your program. >> here's the big bottom line question, it is it your well informed expectation that democrats have done enough to keep their senate majority after tomorrow's election? >> yes, i do believe we are going to hold a majority. we put in an awful lot of work over these last two years. primarily putting together our grand campaign in all of these states, which are going to be critical. you mentioned the large turnout that we are seeing in our battleground states. part of that reason is the fact that we have been working very aggressively on the ground, understanding how the ground game is important when you are in a very tight race. we knew from the outset that as we started this last year, these were going to be incredibly tight races. they are in battleground states and by definition a background state is a really close election. certainly, we are seeing that right now. this is where organization and getting your motors out makes a difference. we have made unprecedented investments at the d sec in our ground campaigns and key races. i believe that is going to be the deciding factor tomorrow, or when we get the final results shortly thereafter.
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>> senator peters, this is alex wagner. we were just talking about the state of georgia and how that race effectively hangs on a razor's edge. given the fact that if no candidate gets over 50% of the vote, is the gse mobilizing resources down in that state with the expectation of a possible runoff? getting ready to mobilize voters for another vote on december 6th? is that something you guys have been thinking about? is there a game plan there? >> well, our focus is to win on election day. we do not want to go to december 6th, we want to win, we are completely focused on making sure that we get the turnout that we need to get raphael warnock over that 50% mark. should we have to go into a runoff, we will definitely be able to marshal those resources. you can imagine as you look at the math there that georgia could be the absolute pivotal state for the country. i believe you will see plenty of resources going into georgia in those few weeks if there is indeed a runoff. >> senator gary peters, chair of the senatorial campaign committee, sir, thank you for
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your time tonight. good luck to you, appreciate you being here. >> thank you rachel, good to be with you, take care. >> i keep thinking listening to him, express that confidence there, it was mitch mcconnell who said that the republicans might not get the senate back because of candidate quality. that was his phrase, even the republicans think of this as basically they're scratch and dead class candidates. and yet, we have absolutely no idea if democrats and republicans are going to be on top of him. >> this is the risk of outsourcing your candid choices to the former president. donald trump essentially picked the field. mitch mcconnell was willing to sit down for that. i think republicans, they have no one to blame but themselves for outsourcing leadership of the party to a former
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president. >> but they may not be blaming anyone if they end up with him on the senate. we will end up with herschel walker and donna bold look, all these unimaginable people. >> -- >> if herschel walker is in the senate, tommy looks like yeah, he just got a few more. he just one of the food chain a little bit i think in terms of legislative priorities and policymaking. i wonder, when we talk about candidate quality, it is important to note that democrats were involved in big up being some of these candidates. the expectation that they would inevitably lose. don boulder got money effectively, they were democratic groups advertising how don bulldog basically was put in the front of the line in the primary process, they thought maggie would have an easier time beating him. you have to wonder, in a moment like this, is their buyers remorse? >> i think you are right though. had the other candidate, who they took bolduc over -- he would've had a better shot. this is a state, new hampshire is a very purple state. if this is going to be a red election year, i think they're gonna have a tough seat to defend anyway. bullet might be the best chance that the democrats have. but the risk is that you end up with him actually in the senate talking about letter boxes. >> the january six committee came out against that. if you take this slice of voters who say democracy is their top issue, and you play with fire by putting election deniers there. i'm struck by the first thing
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that you said wouldn't we sat down. if there is a red wave, we will be covering a red wave. if there is a blue wave, either side will be covering voter fraud. we do not live in normal times. these are extraordinary times. >> can i just say, only in america could the party behind an insurrection that wrap its arms around the attempted overthrow of the government even be viable. when you think about what happened with richard nixon, people got wiped out. we are now one, two generations from that and trying to foment a violent overthrow of the government is actually, that is not something that makes you on electable. >> the violence happened. they don't try, they did that, the only thing that they didn't close the loop on was actually overturning it. >> it's a test, herschel walker to me is sort of a test of how far you can go on essentially what politicians call thermostat public opinion. one party controls all the branches, people are frustrated with the direction of the country. steve was just doing the math, we saw this in the midterms. that is not even a modern
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phenomenon. we have seen this going on all the way back to midterms after the civil war. the party that literally supported secession and treason in the democratic party was able to meet with midterms not that long after. the assassination of abraham lincoln, it was like, i want you guys. >> it was about whether or not there was accountability for what you've done. plumbers and gym teacher is going to jail is not the same thing. their questions of their accountability are still pending because of the slowness of the legal process around this. >> even if you did, that's the thing, if the memories, political memories can be very short in public opinion. right now, timmy walker and masters to a certain extent to who is profoundly unlikable. >> and j. d. vance. the civil war. the party that literally supported secession and treason in the democratic party was able to meet with midterms not that long after. the assassination of abraham lincoln, it was like, i want you guys. >> it was about whether or not there was accountability for what you've done. plumbers and gym teacher is going to jail is not the same thing. their questions of their accountability are still pending because of the slowness of the legal process around this. >> even if you did, that's the
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thing, if the memories, political memories can be very short in public opinion. right now, timmy walker and masters to a certain extent to who is profoundly unlikable. >> and j. d. vance. >> j. d. vance, how much can you bank on, just put some on the ballot line, it's basically a 50/50 country. if the other party controls, maybe use the money. >> it is tribalism that is being borne out in the republican party. >> i think it's accountability. the difference after watergate 's, richard nixon got on the helicopter and had to resign as president. after the iran contra scandal which reagan got away with, the republicans pay no consequences for that whatsoever. against watergate, if you talk about the moral imperative there.
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there isn't much of a difference. >> the accountability for nixon made sure. >> i learn this in ultra, again, the thing about accountability is because of the repercussion party is broken, it is crafted from the top to the bottom and to the bottom back up to the top. in picking these kinds of candidates, and kept picking the j. d. vance in the primary process, the justice system and the congressional committees were never supposed to exist in a vacuum without voters turning these people out. what is broken isn't just the slow and excruciating wheels of justice and the limits of a congressional investigation that can enforce all their subpoenas, can't or won't.
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it is that the politics on one side of the aisle are totally broken. >> and it is interdependent. >> accountability needs there to be fast enough for that or could be political consequences by the people who are at the top of the problem. >> we can't let voters off the hook. one of the things that republicans understood that democrats have never understood is that a little one of the frustrating things, republicans understand short attention spans. they could be met by celebrity. just pick someone famous. democrats don't do that. republicans have had -- >> an old football star. >> they have had couture, sunny bono, ronald reagan, think about it, this is a trend. >> democrats can even get oprah. >> it's not too late. -- [inaudible] [laughs] >> still a, and lots more to come. we're going to talk about the fight over intimidation at the polls to fight to make sure all the votes cast and counted. election lawyer marc elias is gonna be joining us coming up, we have a lot more to come. joint might say those words again. >> i know exactly what you mean. i've just never heard them together. >> >> allergies don't have to be scary. spraying flonase daily stops your body from overreacting to allergens all season long. psst! psst! flonase all good.
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wisconsin. it is part of total victories what you might call the pro democracy or pro voting rights side. which brings us to what many people know in this space. the top lawyer for the past campaign, he runs the voting rights group. welcome sir. >> thanks for having me. i would like to get into all of this with you. >> but, let's begin with what you and others are calling a big day in these court victories. what happened today? >> today was a victory for democracy. we saw judges in arizona, in michigan, in new york, in pennsylvania, in georgia, in wisconsin. all here and deciding cases today which means that voters will have an opportunity to vote and states will be required to tally those votes after. we oftentimes focus on the big dramatic instances, we had some of those tonight. that hand count we worry about in coaches county, we won that case today in court. the case in wisconsin that had so many people upset where
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republicans were trying to disenfranchise our men and women in uniform, trying to vote in the military. we won that case today. but there were other cases that are flying under the radar screen. if you look online, you can see images of dutchess county literally wheeling voting machines into the college as a result of the lawsuit that requires the students ambassador to be able to vote on campus. so, we don't know what comes tomorrow, but today was a good day for democracy. >> really striking, because again these results come in, they are local so sometimes you are not hearing about them all. you see that as pro democracy. what about what rachel reported on, this clash at the state level? how does that work and what is the recourse if states are trying to resist what is supposed to be routine federal oversight to make sure everyone, regardless of party, has access to the polls? >> i hate to draw historical comparisons, but we have seen the images of state officials telling federal officials that they can't come in to enforce rights. we saw that in the 1960s when governors and attorney generals thought they could keep the federal judge of government out from protecting the rights of black individuals trying to vote, trying to attend school. the fact is, it is no different today. the federal government has an important role in federal law to ensure that federal elections, and that's what these are, these are federal elections, are conducted fairly and that voters are not being intimidated or otherwise harassed from voting. >> it's nicole, nice to see you
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again. i want to ask about the postelection legal shenanigans that you are prepared for and if there is another bucket of variables. are you looking at the senate races and expecting lawsuits to be filed as an election strategy on the republican side? >> i do. look, i think the republican party learned something from 2020 which was that postelection litigation can do one thing for them, which is to create an environment of election deniers. but you can't do another thing, which is, you can't go into court with crazy theories involving dead venezuelan leaders and mythological sea creatures. what i think we are seeing republicans do in the lead up to election day is laying the predicate to do two things. number one, to try to slow down the vote count. why do you do want to slow down the vote counting? because they're going to claim that a slow vote count is a sign of fraud. so they simultaneously make it harder for states to count ballots quickly, and then they use the fact that it is slow as a rationale to dispute those results. >> it's nicole, nice to see you again. i want to ask about the postelection legal shenanigans that you are prepared for and if there is another bucket of
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variables. are you looking at the senate races and expecting lawsuits to be filed as an election strategy on the republican side? >> i do. look, i think the republican party learned something from 2020 which was that postelection litigation can do one thing for them, which is to create an environment of election deniers. but you can't do another thing, which is, you can't go into court with crazy theories involving dead venezuelan leaders and mythological sea creatures. what i think we are seeing republicans do in the lead up to election day is laying the predicate to do two things. number one, to try to slow down the vote count. why do you do want to slow down the vote counting? because they're going to claim that a slow vote count is a sign of fraud.
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so they simultaneously make it harder for states to count ballots quickly, and then they use the fact that it is slow as a rationale to dispute those results. the second thing i think we are going to see them do is gin up their base and try to frankly, intimidate, either directly or atmospheric lee, state and local election officials who are under a lot of stress on election day in the days after in their own tallying and certification processes. >> you really lay that out, it's something we're watching for, is the court a place to double check people are winning? are they going to court as a ruse to try to overturn what would otherwise be the outcome. thank you for joining us, i'm sure you're busy. rachel? >> coming up next, the obama effect. in the new nbc poll, there is one, one political figure in the whole country who has a net positive approval rating. one of them, his name is barack obama, he is back on the campaign trail. our political insiders will look at that effect coming up next, stay with us. next, stay with us. now, there's skyrizi.
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might not seem like a top priority right now. especially when you guys are worried about this. when shoe democracy goes away, we have seen throughout history, we have seen around the world went to democracy goes away, people get hurt. it has real consequences. >> it is real consequences. former president barack obama
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speaking in philadelphia this weekend. laying out the stakes in this midterm elections. for more on this, we turn to joy reid who is standing by with our team of political insiders. joy, thank you very much. >> i'm in a given studio. now president barack obama joined president biden in a campaign event in philadelphia for gubernatorial candidate -- and john fetterman, over the weekend. that event is just one of several stops obama made over the past few weeks. up to, leading up to the election day. he's also been to michigan, wisconsin, nevada, and georgia on top of cutting political ads for candidates in new hampshire and illinois. he learns his considerable support to democrats in tight races. for more, i'm joined by my team of political insiders, simone sanders, don't forget this. host of simone, a former white house press secretary jen psaki, and former republican congressman carlos. thank you all for being here. you are at that wisconsin event,
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how is the vibe, i know there is a lot of clips that went out from it? what -- >> i came to wisconsin the day after the rally was over, but the energy from president obama was still very much alive and well. i want canvassing with some organizers and they specifically told me that before they were going out for the canvas that president obama 's presence in the state let them know that what they were doing was important. it was a motivator for the organizers. i was with lieutenant governor barnes who is running for senate. i was out with him, i was that
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tech hub with a headless of black and penal businesses. folks were coming in, saying we saw you at the rally, we are excited. i think the goal was achieved. people were excited. it reminded them that this election was very important. the question is, are they going to vote? if you look at the numbers right now, in wisconsin for the early vote, i think they are. >> obviously, president obama is closer. he is the single most talented politician. although, joshua pirro did a pretty good obama thing. >> he did capture it. >> what is the obama team thinking about how to use it? i did hear some folks saying hey, you have a black woman running in north carolina. president obama picks up one north carolina by 14,000 votes. he barely lost it in 12. that could be viable, how are they deciding where to send him? >> they really focus on sending him out where people are already voting. they know that if they can inspire people, light a fire, get them excited, they could feel like what they're doing is important. not only will they go cast their ballot or send in their mail-in ballot, but they will volunteer. that is so pivotable in the final weeks. they have actually seen an uptick in that, those a lot of the states and places that he is going. it works because he is not only popular with progressives and moderates. i don't think most people in the country actually do, but there is that. but he also weaves in all the issues that matter. most people are not one issue
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voters. they care about all sorts of things. they care about making sure the vote counts, they care about making sure the keep food on the table. he's able to weave that, that is a very good model for democrats moving forward. you don't have to pick, you don't have to do all of them. >> it used to be that president obama motivated the other side. i wonder if that intensity has cooled down as he has become sort of a person in the political world on the republican side. >> that is faded, joy. obama has the benefit of being perceived as over the fray, above the fray, because he hasn't been in the mud for a long time now. not popular with republicans, but he is not offensive to many republicans. maybe perhaps the way george w. bush's perceived by some democrats now. well, that guy maybe wasn't too bad. >> he is looking good. >> -- bush, obama.
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look, i think the big question is, is the obama coalition still intact? we are going to get that answer, we know that some of those voters have strayed, hispanics, even some african american voters certainly. can he bring those people back? >> we will see, the insiders have spoken, jen psaki and carlos are the political insiders, thank you very much. rachel, back to you. >> thank you very much, joy. let's bring in our friend, the host of the 11th hour. she is just joined the table. high staff. i would ask you and economic question. it's an economic messaging question. those political insiders, joy was just talking about obama being the closer and knowing the right way to talk about these issues. is president obama talking about the economy and its closing days of the campaign in a way that tells a story that is both true and motivating to
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democrats? >> he certainly is, and he is doing it in a fantastic way. we know over the summer, republicans have been messaging about the economy nonstop. they outspent democrats 5 to 1. this was an issue that democrats were not talking about enough. it is not that we have a good economy or bad economy. it's a complicated one. throughout the summer, democrats are making good arguments saying, if you're gonna have a functioning democracy, there is no way that you can have a good economy. however, that doesn't sell when people at the grocery store. they're not thinking about. that was present obama over the past week that reminded people, republicans are pounding the table saying, you don't like the economy? vote for republicans. they are not only not offering a solution, in many instances, social security, we are gonna hurt medicaid, it is going to be detrimental to voters. voters seem to be, in the last few weeks, realizing that i need to pay attention to what i could get on the other side.
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he has been an extraordinarily effective messenger. the question was, was it too late? >> i feel like when you say it is a complicated economy, that is obviously terrible political messaging. it is also true. i was just talking a friend the other day about the issue about the job situation in her small town in western new england. i was like, the bottom line, the thing everyone is talking about is, it is at 3. 5%. unemployment is at build the man camps in north dakota levels. unemployment hasn't been this low in 50 years. and yes, there's other things going on in the economy, but isn't that something for the democrats to be running on? >> without a doubt, they could be making the argument, if you are struggling, there's not just a job out there, there could be two jobs. some of these important battleground states in arizona in georgia, guess what? the jobs picture is even better. look at the port of savannah, blooming. phoenix, arizona is going to be a huge beneficiary of the ships act.
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judge beasley, the former chief justice of the carolina supreme court, is running for that as a republican against republican challenger ted budd when shots about turnout in north carolina she's right, all right more than 2 million voters have cast their ballots early in north carolina, that's up from the record breaking turnout in the last midterm in north carolina, in 2018. joining us now is sure beasley, issues democratic candidate for senate in north carolina, permit she just as the states report. thanks so much for joining us, today we know it's a big night. >> so we spoke with senator gary, peter's the chair of the democrat senate campaign earlier tonight. he told us, that he is confident democrats have done
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enough to hold the majority in the senate, a lot of democrats around the country are hoping you are gonna be one of those pick up numbers for the democrats. the bottom, line how do you feel heading into tomorrow, and how are things going versus your expectations? >> well, i feel great, we're really excited about the energy and enthusiasm we're seeing in this race. people are very much in tune, and understand the magnitude of this race, and why we must all feel a sense of urgency, and north carolina deserves a senator who's gonna fight hard for us, we will not put corporate and special interests and his own above hours. so things going really well here >> judge beasley this is alex wagner. a lot of democrats are running against republicans who have been shy to outline what
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exactly 1 to 1 abortion. we -- federal bennett 15 weeks on abortion. i've been talking about on the trail? how is it animating voters when a lot of other issues tend to get at the top of the list, when we talk about the, economy immigration, a lot of republicans are animated by that. you feel like democrats are coming out specifically an issue of abortion in north carolina? >> >> abortion is is a real issue and a constitutional protection of abortion is real issue. and the majority of carolinians, like the majority of americans support the framework is aligned and roe v. wade. so it is a real issue. actually ted budd, came out with the most extreme position on, this reporting an absolute ban on abortion, without exceptions for rape or incest, or risk mothers helps. that means is a woman with an ectopic pregnancy, or a septic uterus, or in this carriage, that her body one released, it means that these will not be able to get the lifesaving treatment of, beneath which is an abortion, and that women will die. -- i will be fighting hard. i'll fight quite make sure that roe v. wade is the lava land. >> as, easily weighs welcome with a few other senate candidates that, teaming and all of us have over the throes of the past few weeks. there's something unique in these elections, which is a prospect that your opponent will not accept the results if he does not win the election. i wonder if you any your campaign of may contingencies,
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in terms of how you handle that, if that's the scenario you are up against, when all the results come in in north carolina. >> well congressman ted budd did not accept the results of the 2020 election. he failed to certify the 2020 election, and even after all that violence with the mobs over in the capital, with hundreds of law enforcement capitol officers were injured. some of whom were beaten with the american flag. he still denied with validity of that election and even when pressed about this race, he will not say that he will accept the results of this election, i certainly believe and i should know the importance of a free and fair election, i heard a judge for over two decades and served as justice in north carolina
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that's been my life upholding the rule of law and the constitution, and it is important that we have a senator who believes in democracy, and it's gonna fight hard for, not one who is trying to overthrow the election, or is trying to undermine democracy. i do hope that your viewers will not only votes in the north carolina election, we -- for more information about my campaign. >> charities, a democratic senate candidate for senate in north carolina. thank you for your time tonight, and good luck tomorrow. >> thank you rachel. >> all right, joining us now is a great steve kornacki, once again at the big board. steve, when we are thinking about tomorrow, and how the results are gonna be coming in, thinking about sort of preparing for a long night, or as a viewer saying along of what should people be thinking about the starry night, this is what they should be talking about. >> right off the bat, it was 7:00 eastern, time just all of florida minus the panhandle is gonna close.
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he got that senate, race any quebec governor's race in florida, and the one of the most efficient saves a getting the vote out. basically in every county within a half hour at the polls, you're gonna get the early vote, you're gonna get the mail vote, that's gonna be about two thirds of the vote in all the counties, and an hour to after that generally, you're gonna get most of all of the same-day votes, we will have pretty expensive results, pretty quickly from florida, one place to look at very early in a day is gonna be miami-dade county. one of the themes of 2020, where the inroads that republicans made with hispanic voters, those particularly pronounced in miami-dade, where republicans cut the margin fit from 30 to inside ten, that's on this continuing, we're gonna look at -- we >> georgia's gonna allow this time with the pre-counting, the pre tabulation of mail-in early votes, we before polls close, wildlife ballots are in a separated area in terms of watching results come in, we're gonna get a lot of votes released very early into
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georgia, could be a lot of mail vote, a lot of early votes that is released early in the night in georgia. we could see that democrats jump out to an early lead in georgia similar to north carolina and ohio, you had cheri beasley on 7:30 pm poll closing time in north carolina, 7:30 eastern as well. a similar pattern where unique is that we generally tabulated reported out first. many getting at the same days, pushes can be one of those things where you watch the democratic members should have to believe, the question is a big enough to withstand the same day, at the end of the night is gonna be a little bit more male that came out on a daily election gets tabulated during the night and gets released into the night, those will be the early ones that can keep us with the longest. we may not go as long as they did in 2020, that was a saturday after the election, but if it's closer we can certainly in me and wednesday, maybe even later in pennsylvania, i think arizona and nevada, if you've got close races in either one of those states, arizona especially, that's necessarily we gonna be a days long process if it's a razor-thin race. >> so you, along those lines, under thinking about time differences imposing times, and ultimate results. we haven't been talking canada
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control of the house. one >> of the things we might be looking for is results to come in from the state of california, in terms of learning about the total margin in the house. that could be weeks. >> that's the, thing there's a range of possibilities here, with three in virginia that we're gonna keep an eye on we -- but if you flip that around and the democrats are actually doing surprisingly well knows virginia seats, suddenly you start talking about the democrats having a better than expected night. and if it ever came to a scenario, where democrats had a shot at keeping control the house, and that would mean like they end up with 200 and 2221 seats, something like that, just over that to a team. that would necessarily mean, as you were saying, that would come down to the west coast, we come down to california, because there's a whole bunch of seats with a democratic majority would depend on in california. i think then the whole world would discover what political junkies have known for a few years now, california is a slowest, most glacial state at getting its vote reported out, and that he would be election months. >> and then we end up in another scenario, where the whole narrative has crystallized already, and nobody's pain attention to the fact that california's results are nowhere near it. >> and i just, say part of the reason that we have such a slow quote vote count in pennsylvania and wisconsin, for that, matter is because republican legislators have done everything their power to stop what is known as pre
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canvassing. which is basically the processing of the ballots, opening, up checking the a shot at keeping control the house, and that would mean like they end up with 200 and 2221 seats, something like that, just over that to a team. that would necessarily mean, as you were saying, that would come down to the west coast, we come down to california, because there's a whole bunch of seats with a democratic majority would depend on in california. i think then the whole world would discover what political junkies have known for a few years now, california is a slowest, most glacial state at getting its vote reported out, and that he would be election months. >> and then we end up in another scenario, where the whole narrative has crystallized already, and nobody's pain attention to the fact that california's results are nowhere near it. >> and i just, say part of the reason that we have such a slow quote vote count in pennsylvania and wisconsin, for
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that, matter is because republican legislators have done everything their power to stop what is known as pre canvassing. which is basically the processing of the ballots, opening, up checking the addresses against what's on file. not actually counting the ballots, and that's because they take advantage, they've effectively weaponized that delay, wheaten -- of lou site of the reason it's taken a long time. >> the red mirage is their strategy, from the january six committee. >> nicole, how much weight you have in our ability as a country to be patient with these election results? >> none. we >> i had less faith in our billet-y to be done in 2020 will -- >> be asked answer differently, i think half the country, the one still trusts our democracy, and believes that elections are sacred, and i would add liz cheney to those numbers, but it's mostly the democratic party. i think that a lot of patience, because it's about respecting the process. we now know if everyone understands what you just said, what is really important. >> there's a country understands why. who is trump's strategy in 2020, not to win. but for everyone to see what you just said, the red mirage. and the reason he goes out of three on to say stop the count, is because even he knew was fake. so my answer, is half the country has a ton of patience
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much to cover, so many stories to follow. i'm not sure it is possible to get their head truly around it. we are going to do our. best our live coverage of results as they come in, starts tomorrow at 6 pm eastern. exit polling, candidate speeches, government porters on the ground and across the country. steve kornacki's got. case it's a story, we will have it for you. starting at 6 pm eastern and going into the cows are too tired to find their way home. we will see you tomorrow night. >> tonight on this election eve. candidates across the country making their closing hermits voters. to voters, as 42 million americans have already cast their votes. then, the 16 billion dollar
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