tv Katy Tur Reports MSNBC November 8, 2022 11:00am-12:00pm PST
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well. it might be weeks before the tally is finalized telling us whether we see a red wave or ripple or something in between. so take a breath and be patient because a lot is already happening. we have new reporting from nbc in pennsylvania on the legal challenges already being filed regarding the number of mail-in ballots. details in a moment. from politico in arizona where christina bob, one of the trump lawyers caught up in the mar-a-lago documents investigation said in a recent interview that it will look suspicious if states fail to report electioults by early wednesday. the truth is that it's going to take time and that is normal. especially considering that turnout is expected to break records. here are just some of the lines we are seeing today. take a look. this is georgia. michigan, wisconsin, arkansas, new york, florida, and indiana.
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by closing time tonight, we could find 120 million people showed up to weigh in on abortion, crime, the economy, climate change, democracy, and so much more. but don't let me tell you. let's hear it from the voters themselves and it had reporters who have spoken with them. in las vegas, there's guad, new hampshire, kristen dahlgren and apex, north carolina, antonia hilton. so i want to begin with you. what are you seeing down on the ground in nevada? >> when you look at those lines, nevada's unique in the sense that a lot of voters here can vote early so one-third of voters have already cast their ballots so we have an idea for what the turnout has been and it's tight. a very narrow lead from the democrats but then about one-fifth of the voters that
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cast the ballots through mail-in or coming in to vote early before election day, but one-fifth of those are nonpartisans so it's very difficult to know which candidates they'll end up supporting. for months, we've been talking to the non-partisan voters in nevada that we knew could decide the election. they wanted someone who could work across the aisle. they were going to choose a candidate who they thought would support the issues that matter to nevada, but it's difficult for republicans or democrats to know who the nonpartisans are going to be choosing. we know that a lot of republicans come in to in the-person vote the day of the election so today, both in clark county, the largest county, and in walsho, we have seen a larger number of republicans coming in to vote. here are some of the conversations i've had. >> i went republican straight through. i'm not afraid to tell
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everybody, but it's because we have two different mindsets. >> i've always heard about lombardo and his policies so i figured he would be the same. >> you want to see change in nevada? >> yeah. but will i get it? >> now, the big race here is for the u.s. senate seat, catherine cortez masto looking to get re-elected. her challenger, adam laxalt, who picked up a lot of traction over the last couple of months. it's a very close race. i think it's going to come down to those nonpartisans. >> interesting. tremayne, what about what's happening in georgia? >> reporter: i'm here in southeast atlanta, liberty baptist church. i've been talking to black folks, especially black voters about these high stakes races. abrams and kemp for governor.
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walker and warnock for the senate. there's not a sense of excitement but there's determination and intentionality it. sometimes we get hyperbolic when talking about black voters in the south. talk to these voters, it's more than just a horse race. let's listen. >> we can move in silence, but we'll show up. >> black folk realize the last presidential election, the strength and value of our vote. turned out in overwhelming numbers and that reversed a lot of things around here. and that's what has the republicans running so scared now because we surprised the state and the nation with the numbers we turned out. they put rafael in office in and those others. so we realize our vote has value
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and our vote is our voice and that if we want to be heard, we have to vote. >> reporter: if you want to be heard, you have to vote. there was some around early voting laws, restricted early voting, but despite that, 2.5 million people voted early. a record for georgia. and a huge number of black folks helped push that wave. >> amazing. if you want to be heard, you got to vote. now to new hampshire. kristen dahlgren, this is a race we only started talking about recently. seemed like maggie had it in the bag, but that's not the case any longer. talk to me about what you're hearing. >> reporter: definitely tightening up here. no early voting in new hampshire so it all comes down to today and a lot going on here. these folks back here, they're counting the absentee ballots. but look over here and you can see just how many people.
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it's been a steady stream all day. these people waiting to vote. then here in the corner, this line has gone down, but these are people who are registering to vote. who haven't voted in the last four years so are either reregistering or registering. a good indication that we could see record turnout here. a couple of issues that people are really talking about. listen to what voters are telling me. do you think this is going to come down to independents today? >> i do. i do. i think it's going to be very tight. >> inflation. outsourcing, frankly. law and order. heating issue is big around here. so all of the above. >> i want the economy to get better. >> okay. and that was your main -- >> that and abortion. i'm not for abortion, but i wouldn't tell anybody else what to do. >> reporter: so the economy and
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reproductive rights really what people here in new hampshire are talking about. take a look. we just got the updated numbers from 2:00. almost 6200 people have voted so far. this is the breakdown in this district. we've got about 6,000 republicans. 4200 democrats, undeclared 5811. so it could really come down to what the general called trickling independents last night. those voters who are undeclared, undecided, making up their minds and could go either way. >> it's a state that notoriously does not like to be labeled, live free or die. you heard it from that woman there. i don't support abortion, but i'm not going to tell anybody else what to do. interesting stuff. antonia, you're in north carolina. the other day, you told me not to sleep on the races in north carolina. >> reporter: and i stand by that, katy. i'm in apex, which is a really
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fascinating place. this is the 13th district and really the only real swing district in the state of north carolina. that means that at the top of the ticket, you have everything from the senate race between republican ted bud and sherry beasley at stake here, but also a really tight congressional race between the democrat and republican. i've been talking to voters all day here. many of whom are unaffiliated. that's a word here for independents. and north carolina has some of the highest numbers of unaffiliated voters around the country. i mean, more unaffiliated people here than people who are in actually party and this is kind of the mecca for them. a lot of these voters, they are talking about the abortion and the economy and cost of living as well, but they are planning to vote split ticket. you know, they don't have much affinity for either party and so they're going to mix it up a bit. take a listen. >> definitely the reproductive
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rights. we all have our believes, but i don't think that's a body of strangers should tell us what our choices should be. >> crime. even though they're not saying it, there's a lot going on and i think we need to do something about it. too many shootings, too many guns involved. i'm a retired police officer so it's making a problem for us. >> given the makeup of this district, a lot of people will be looking closely at the results that come out of the 13th tonight as an indication of how an interesting cross section of the people of north carolina feel and in particular when we're talking about the congressional race, on the democratic side, they believe if nickel pulls this off in this tight race, it will show a large portion of north carolinans want to reject people on the far right. no matter what happens in this section, it will give us a lot of interesting data about north
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carolina but also about the tone. >> so, so interesting. i love the euphemisms for no party voters. all the people that might not have been poll. so it's another reason to take some of the polling with a grain of salt. let's bring in vaughn hillyard in phoenix, arizona. there's been so much issues reported in maricopa county. talk to us about what's gone on. >> reporter: right. the kind of set up where we are, we're in downtown phoenix and there's a lot of press gathered because kari lake is coming here to vote. about 15% of the tabulation machines aren't working. arizona voters, they use paeper ballots then at your polling location, you insert that ballot into the tabulating machine. that information then makes its way to downtown phoenix where
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maricopa county takes that data and comes up with a total vote count. the issue is that folks are putting their paper ballots into the machines and about 15% are rejecting the ballots here. it's important to note those are now being put into a separate, secure box location which are then being brought to downtown phoenix tonight to be hand counted by members from both political parties here. so those ballots are all intents and purposes, are secure here. there are some of these voting locations that have had lengthier lines. they are urging folks to go to other locations. there's 223 of them and around 15% are having those issues so they're urging folks to wait in line or go to another location. >> what's the atmosphere like there in arizona? >> reporter: there's pretty much folks when you talk to them on both sides, there's big question marks as to where these races are going to go.
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is there going to be the type of turnout trump was able to bring in 2020? the voters that allowed him to lose the suburbs of maricopa county but then almost make up the deficit with the huge surge of votes outside maricopa county. then the independent voters. you talk to one independent voter, another, and some folks are going for the likes of lake and masters. others are going facebook hobbs and masters. it's a matter of really are the democrats by about a three percentage point, are they able to win independents by about three percentage points. that's kind of a rough estimate of what they would need to secure in order to win. again, there's a true possibility that there may be a democrat, mark kelly, winning re-election and kari lake winning governor. it could be a mix and match here. when we're talking to voters, there's a lot of question marks as to where this is going to go. >> final question. what about the tension. are you feeling any of what was
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feared going into election day in arizona? >> reporter: i think the frustrating thing frankly here is the tabulating machines not functioning properly here because you're already seeing the likes of these republican candidates including lake call into question the integrity. of course everybody around this country is concerned when there are lengthy lines. people have jobs to go to. they have school. at the same time, it should not be conflated with the idea that somehow that the votes have been rigged or this has been used to take down the republican candidates. it's important to know that downtown phoenix, for democratic area, had issues. there's no evidence there are ballots not being counted or that somehow these machines when they were talking the ballots were improperly counting it. also not separating the side
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that there should be no lines. that's why you have a month of mail-in voting so folks have that opportunity, too. there's a lot of variables at play. >> we have another report from arizona coming up later in the hour about some of the ground work that's been laid for declaring the vote fraudulent if it takes a long time or even just tonight and tomorrow morning. thank you so much. that is the word right there on the ground from a lot of our reporters. just some of the reporters that are covering this election for us. we're going to ask next one of the country's loading pollsters on the indicators he is looking out for tonight. the stuff you can watch for as well. plus, those league challenges that have been filed in pennsylvania. who they're coming from and what they're objecting to. and later, as i just said, on top of the voting machine issues that vaughn just mentioned, the foundation is being laid to claim fraud in arizona. what exactly is being said and by whom?
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42 million people have already voted. perhaps 100 million more people will be voting today. here is what some of them are saying that they're voting on. >> i hear my family, my community say eggs are $4. $4. >> cost of everything's rising. i got to the store, it cost me almost double than what it did a year ago. >> i just feel sorry for people who don't have money to make a living. >> i don't care about the economy, inflation. inflation is already there. all the time. >> will any of you vote
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specifically based on a politician's views on abortion? >> no. >> strictly no. >> no. if the choice is pro-life or pro-choice and they're only pro-life with no circumstance, i would never vote for them. so, yes, i would make that decision solely on that because that's a line i'm unwilling to cross. >> you said crime is your biggest issue. doesn't feel safe. >> it doesn't. >> in westchester? >> cars are being stolen. that's not something that's happened since i was a kid in the '80s. >> i actually voted so they would have to right to vote freely and that's being threatened. >> when i'm deciding who to vote for, it's a disqualifier if the person isn't 100% honest of the fact we've got an open, honest, fair, and free election. >> and you're speaking as a
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republican. >> yes, i'm technically a registered republican. >> a lot of different issues there. joining me now is the director of polling at harvard kennedy school institute of politics. john is also an msnbc political contributor. we've got a range of issues from voters. some who said interestingly that if they cross a line on abortion that i will not cross, that will be a single issue vote for me, which oftentimes, republicans have had the lock on when it comes to abortion. what do you make of what we heard? >> we heard a plethora of issues. it wasn't all about one issue. it shows this is a very complex decision and when you have record turnout, it's really difficult to measure i think accurately what that means in terms of polling. most of the polling in the states come when the electorate is outsized the traditional. specifically when they're this
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perfect storm of current events. >> i was asking people what they were voting on, they would say the economy and. it was often that and which indicated which direction they were going. they saw the problems differently than someone else might have seen them. same thing when you asked people about are you happy with the direction of the country. you get two similar answer, but two different reasons behind those answers. >> it's essentially about values and vision. too often i think the media and elected officials focus on messages when it's much more important to talk about how they connect to the values and the vision they have for the community, their own lives and the country. >> i was struck so much by what we saw in the first block of the show, how many people they spoke with who said they were undecided or unaffiliated or independent or nonpartisan. >> especially again when we see likely to be record turnout, that happens. some polling i've seen has shown
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a significant number of undecides throughout the year. high single digits. in some cases, it remains that. some people waking up this morning on their way to the polls not sure which way they're going to go. who are those voters? disproportionately younger. something we talked about. we focus a lot about at harvard. under 45. roughly 15% in north carolina under the age of 45 say they are still undecided in terms of the last group. they're also of course likely will be nonpartisan because by definition, they've got problems with each party. >> we always talk about the youth vote. is the youth vote going to come out. is this one of those elections where we're going to see that? >> we are seeing it at the university of michigan campus. i heard today there were lines more than three hours long in terms of young people turning out. i think with all the data we have in front of us today, i'm still not sure whether we'll see
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a red wave or a blue wave, but i know there will be a gen z wave today and tonight. what that means is that there's a new generation of voters came in 2018, 2020 and they've changed the race in significant ways. especially in these battleground states. so i don't think this is every yet. i don't want to put too much pressure on young people but something we're paying close attention to this evening. >> what races are you watching tonight? >> in the senate, new hampshire. the polling there has been all over the place. it's hard to poll in new hampshire but same day registration and we'll see a good indication there. the senate race as well as in new hampshire whether pappas will defeat the gen z republican or not. virginia, too, is a really interesting race. a highly diverse district with a lot of young people as well. she's got a significant
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challenge. i think she won by six or so points last time. then we talked earlier in the show about north carolina. the senate as well as north carolina. 13. whether they're the independent leaning folks will support democratic nickel or not. >> really interesting. i don't envy you having to keep the various district's numbers in your head. i would get confused and make a fool out of myself on television. thank you so much for coming in. and what is being said in arizona that could throw the whole election into crisis? we're going to go there again and here is ballot processing in pennsylvania. the site we're looking at now. you can see more of it. the votes are started to be counted in pennsylvania, but the lawsuits have already begun. why john fetterman is behind one of those suits. is behind one of those suits
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until today. it takes a lot of time then there are the lawsuits. here's one. the fetterman campaign is suing asking a federal judge to order all mail-in ballots to be counted regardless of what date voters wrote on the outside of the envelope. state law requires voters to handwrite a date on the outer envelope and the pennsylvania supreme court ruled last week that ballots with the incorrect date will be set aside and not counted. the suit argues that throwing out ballots over a technicality is a violation of civil rights laws. >> i'm at ohio trip. folks are et voing in person, but it is those mail-in ballots the reason we're going to have
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to be really patient here. there's the exterior envelope, the secrecy envelope. i'm betting you this lawsuit from fetterman is not going to be the last. we had the same issue with these undated mail-in ballots in the primary when the contest between oz and mccormick was extremely close. the mccormick campaign was making the same argument that fetterman is making. the oz campaign orging against. this issue coming up again. now the oz campaign is still, we haven't heard from their legal team about this, but the fetterman campaign pushing for those undated ballots to be counted which is counter to what the pennsylvania supreme court said. we got this news this morning. a process that the philadelphia elections board has been doing for years now, they decided not to do this time around. it's called poll book
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reconciliation. it's a process to make sure that folks don't double vote, essentially. they decided this time around, it's too time consuming, not necessary. we're not going to do it, which is why we're hopeful that maybe, maybe, we could get results potentially on wednesday from philadelphia, but hopes of that totally dashed. they know will be putting that process in place because of a gop lawsuit which means it's just going to take a really long time and we just don't know when we're going to get results here. >> thank you very much. and in arizona, the republican candidate for attorney general is arguing that all votes should be counted on election day. he tweeted this photo to back himself up. amazing. technology was so good back then that they had the results of the election in the early hours after election day. as you probably notice though, this is a famous picture of a miscall in 1948 when the "chicago tribune" went to press
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before all the votes were counted. the reverse of what that paper said. while this example is wrong, officials worry that sort of misinformation can throw an election into crisis. joining me now from politico, heidi, who we know so well around here. talk to us about what you're hearing in arizona, what folks are saying and what officials are worried about. >> officials are so worried that last night, the maricopa county supervisor held a news conference on misinformation and the leading problem he cited was that there's a lot of encouraging of gop voters to vote in ways that will cause delays. delays like we're seeing now. long lines of people only on election day, only turn in your mail-in ballot on election day, but at the same time, the messaging they're putting out across social media is that it will be suspicious if there's
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not a call on election night. of course, the supervisor has told us for weeks now, it's unlikely there will be any result. there can't be because of the mail-in ballots that were dropped today can't be processed until tomorrow. we're not just seeing this here. we're seeing it in maryland, georgia, pennsylvania where people were told you should only vote on election day. a lot of this really grounded in the conspiracy theory that somehow the election machines would be rigged to give the outcome to democrats. but this is being spread all across the top of the ticket as well as by gop activists. that's exactly what we're seeing today, these long lines. again, these are close, close races. more recently, they've shown candidates like lake might have a slight advantage but we're expecting to see is that that first batch will be the democrats voting mail-in and early then a lot of these
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republican voters voting in person. one thing to mention here and i know vaughn talked about this earlier, but the most recent example of the misinformation campaign is that there are these tabulators that are malfunctioning. about 15%. people can still vote, katy. you just don't put it in the tabulator. you drop it in the secure box. it stays, they go straight to the main counting center where observers and officials will be overseeing those ballots. >> heidi, thank you very much. always good to see you. joining me now is election law analyst, rick hassen. thanks for being here. let's talk about the legal challenges in pennsylvania. what about these mail-in ballots. do we have an idea of how many are in question?
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>> it's in the thousands we think. this is an issue that's not new. it was litigated to the supreme court but was moved by the time they got to it. it's a real mess was when the issue got to the state supreme court, they had a justice who passed away and divided three to three on the question and then they had to issue some further clarification of what was going on then it's now with fetterman and others in federal court. so it's about as messy as you can imagine. >> i'm just a little confused about the reasoning. why would you have to write the date on the front of the ballot when there's a postmark date when you put it in the mail? >> so, as i understand pennsylvania law, it says that voters have to sign and date the ballot. but all the ballots have to be received by the end of the election. so we know that all the ballots coming in are timely. so what if you forget to write it on the ballot or you write the wrong date? a as matter of state law, the state supreme court divided evenly on the question of
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whether the failure to put that date on there, it violates state law. in federal court, the question is whether under the civil rights act, there's a provision that says voters can't be disenfranchised if they make an immaterial mistake. your ballot is timely because all the ballots have to be in by tonight anyway. >> what are you watching for in arizona? heidi was just reporting about a lot of folks out there, some of the candidates saying if the election results take long to count, anything longer than tomorrow morning, it's going to be rigged. any legal challenges being prepared there? >> i think what you're seeing is there are legal challenges around the country. a lot of the them are place holders and they're only really going to be important if we have a really close election then you'll be able to see people arguing that rules weren't followed or that procedures weren't followed in a way that
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complies with state law. i think your question raises this really important political point. there's been a moving of the goal post here. this thing that we have to know the results on election night? states like wisconsin that don't allow the prechecking of ballots until election day. that's not a sign there's something wrong. it's just a sign it's going to take time, but yet following the trump playbook, it's been made into something that's a political issue. >> thank you very much for giving us all of that to watch out for as the night progresses and the days turn into weeks. coming up, what donald trump is doing to ron desantis in florida and what a u.s. congressman is going to kathy hochul in new york. don't go anywhere because again, it is election day in america. if you go anywhere though, go vote. america. if you go anywhere though, go vote
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it's been almost 20 years since new york elected a republican governor. but that might change tonight. joining me tonight from summers, new york is lindsey riser. kathy hochul is facing a challenge from leah zeldin, he's been single edits, and this would be a big change for this state. what are you hearing from voters? >> reporter: so right now, candidates are having to spend more money, more time here in this area. typically a blue stronghold, but we've been seeing some really competitive races. for example, that governor's race. hochul has been enjoying wide margins over zeldin, but lately, he's been cutting into that. a mid october quinnipiac poll had her only four points ahead. when we talk about groups spepd spending money here, hochul has
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raised a record breaking $49 million but zeldin has been enjoying a lot of donations from big republican superpacs. look no further than when president biden was here in yonkers of all places, stumping for democratic candidates then down ballot, there are some competitive races on long island. the new york assembly now is trying to maintain their super majority up in albany and so today, there's a lot at stake here for the state of new york. >> what about the 17th district, which you're in, and maloney. how's he going against lawler? >> he's the head of the dccc. he's in charge of making sure the democrats keep the house in his own district right now is vulnerable to mike lawler. i spent time with both candidates this morning. both saying they're confident and they've put in the work but maloney's saying that it's never
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been a cake walk for him. he's always had to fight and earn it. lawler saying he believes that right now, people are looking for change. we talked to a lot of voters and there's a wide breadth of issues that's driving them to the polls. let's listen to some of them. >> democrats are the only ones coming up with solutions and working towards an end towards those solutions. i feel that that biden cannot be blamed for inflation and that people should take a wider stance on things. >> i wouldn't want a trump supporter to be governor. that's an issue. >> i think we need to change the direction. i wasn't particularly fond of the previous administration, but the direction i approved of more than the direction now. i'm not voting personally, i'm voting from the issues. >> reporter: i've spoken to more than a dozen voters today and i've heard all of the issues
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being number one from the war in ukraine to reproductive rights, inflation, security. you ask different people, you're going to get different answers. >> really interesting state to watch tonight. now to florida. desantis went in with a huge polling margin against crist, but is this the race he's really focused on? joining me from tampa is ali. this race, but the polling indicators, who knows if something might change, wasn't the most interesting race like what we're seeing in new york, but desantis and the state of florida are interesting for another reason and that's 2024. >> reporter: several 2024 implications from both the way this state swings or rather may not swing in the way that it once did from blue to red. many republicans and democrats alike that i've spoken to here say this is an election cycle where they think florida will
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turn solidly red, including in south florida. miami-dade county, usually that's a place where democrats really run up their margins, but if you look at the last two election cycles, it's a place trump lost by 30 points then by seven point. now it's a place that the desantis and rubio camp both think they could pull out a win, showing this is a county that's typically blue but going red for the first time in over a decade. then of course there's the 2024 implication for governor ron desantis. his team will not outwardly engage with that, but voters i've spoken to here and frankly over the course of the last few days, say they're aware of the fact that desantis would not commit to serving the full four years of his gubernatorial term if re-elected. that's something crist, his opponent, tried to press him on, but it behooves him to keep that door open because every other republican operative and donor widely assume he is someone who's going to be getting in the
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race for president in 2024, using this likely decisive win as a spring board to the national audience. one that's already actively talking about him as a trump hair apparent and look no further than the fact donald trump seems to have turned his sights to him over the weekend giving him a nickname. this schism that was talked about privately is now spilling out into the public as people start looking past this election day and one that's two years in the future. >> two years in the future. election day, or i should say the 2024 election starts officially tomorrow. tomorrow, i hope you're ready for it. thank you so much. coming up next, majority leader mcconnell, well, it's not as easy as the republicans winning back the senate. what is being said about his leadership? s being said about hs leadership my most important kitchen tool? my brain. so i choose neuriva plus. unlike some others,
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since the 1970s. today, three states will vote to strengthen the abortion protections they already have. two states will vote to make their abortion restrictions even stricter. on voting, six states will decide how to vote, when to vote and who can vote. on marijuana, five more states will decide whether to legalize it and on guns, iowa voters are deciding on an initiative that would add a gun rights amendment to their state constitution while oregon voters are considering some of the tightest gun restrictions in the country. and the first polls close in a little more than three hours from now and while it could be days before we know the results with 31 house seats open up for grabs, a lot of competitive races across the board this cycle, republicans are confident that they will pick up the five seats they need to flip control of the house and democrats while hopeful, are strategizing a path
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forward if that should happen. joining me now from washington is nbc news senior capitol hill correspondent, garrett hague. i want to talk about mitch mcconnell and whether if the republicans take the senate, which is a harder path for them, but still potential, mitch mcconnell will be majority leader. >> i think it's almost certain that he will although it may be a tougher time for him than it has been in the past. make no mistake, mcconnell, while broadly unpopular in the country, and he wouldn't even dispute that, he knows that's the job, he's extremely popular within the republican conference. that is his job. to get the 50 of those republican senators or 50 plus, if he should be so lucky to back him. this time around, he's going to have more challengers. rick scott who's on his leadership team as the head of the nrc this cycle, has left open the possibility of challenging him and in an interview published today,
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former president trump said rick scott should and rick scott hates mcconnell. there doesn't appear to be a lot of love lost between those three men, but the anti-mcconnell caucus is small. josh hawley has suggest d he would be in favor of someone else, but the overwhelming majority of the republicans in the senate right now have backed mcconnell and i think are likely to back mcconnell in leadership elections for majority or minority leader, whichever is the case come january. >> what happens in the house if republicans takeover? >> broadly, i think we're going to see a lot of investigations. the reality is whether the republicans take the senate as well or not. joe biden's still going to be holding a veto pen so the legislative agenda will be messaging bills if they can pass them and oversight when they can't. the house republicans have talked about investigating hunter biden, the doj or fbi or the covid response here in the
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country. particularly since joe biden has become president. so expect to see the action in the committees more so than on the floor of the house where the legislative agenda of house republicans is likely to only go so far even if they get the senate as well. >> garrett, thanks for coming on and that's going to do it for me on this election day. if you haven't gone out already, please go out and vote. the only way to participate is to participate to have a say in things. tune in tomorrow for msnbc's special coverage of the election results. we'll be on from 12:00 p.m. noon to 4:00 p.m. eastern. don't change the channel. stay with us throughout it all. hallie jackson picks up our coverage next. jackson picks up coverage next. od a lot sooner. after farmer's dog she's a much healthier weight. she's a lot more active. and she's able to join us on our adventures.
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