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welcome back. it is 2:00 p.m. here in new york city. i'm katie tour. alongside andrea mitchell. more big calls today but no call on which party will control the house or the senate. here are the updates so far. in wisconsin, ron johnson inched out lieutenant governor mandela barnes to keep his senate seat and keep republicans in play for control of the upper chamber. in kansas, the democrats held the state house, laura kelly winning re-election in a traditionally red state. here in new york, a big loss for house democrats, sean patrick maloney conceded, maloney unable to hold on to his new seat after redistricting. and we have a runoff in georgia. with democratic senator raphael warnock and republican herschel walker heading back to the
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campaign trail into december. politics and pumpkin pie, everyone. >> indeed. >> and we're keeping a close eye on two battleground senate races. arizona, senator mark kelly is leading republican blake masters, with a lot of votes still to come in, the possibility of this race will narrow. and the other big unknown is nevada. still too early to call. but republican challenger adax laxalt is leading democratic incumbent senator catherine cortez masto. let's bring in our panel. robert gibbs, former press secretary of the white house. donna edwards, former maryland congressional congresswoman. all three political analysts and brenden buck who advised john baner and paul ryan and constitutional political reporter and msnbc political contributor gleg bluestein joins us as well. greg, i will begin with you
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because you've got some news. >> of course, we're headed off to a runoff in georgia, in four weeks and governor kemp is throwing his support behind herschel walker and of course they're both republicans and if governor kemp held walker at arms length he is now saying he will dorf do whatever he can to help herschel walker win the primary. >> throwing his weight behind herschel walker, isn't that going to make a difference? didn't he already do that? >> that's what he got to do. he won the election. and state republicans look to him to see how he will lean in to help herschel, and it may or may not matter by the time we get to december depending what happens in nevada and elsewhere in arizona. and the reality of it is he will do what he can as governor, as a republican leader, the chair of the party, ostensibly, but to what degree does he do it? and how much effort does he put behind it? and how much can he get cleaned
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up and cleared up with walker and his campaign, given all the sort of history that has happened. >> his heart in it? >> when they say put their heart into, it i've been enough of those rooms where there were a lot of hearts left on the floor when they walked out of the room. so you don't know what it will look like. >> robert gibbs, he is a very popular governor. just re-elected. he is the state's republican leader. and a major player in the party now. despite his awkward relationship with donald trump. he had no choice but to endorse, but as michael is pointing out, it depends whether he is all in. >> it depends whether he is all in. and quite frankly it depends if it matters. we have a football analogy, with herschel walker, the school board with brian kemp, it is not what herschel walker did and i doubt that is because people walked into the voting booths saying gosh, brian kemp is a
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republican, i wonder who herschel walker is, and we're in a pretty polarized world. republicans know who republicans are supposed to vote for and there was a decided dropoff in that race. ajc and the others picked it up in polling throughout the year and ticket splitters and we're having a hard time wrapping our head around in this world how do we have ticket splitters, and i think the big challenge for herschel walker, not only accepting the endorsement of kemp, but how to close the gap in the 4 or 5% of voters who didn't vote for you or skipped voting in the senate race all together. i think it will be a pretty remarkable thing. >> what does donald trump do? does he jump in for his guy herschel walker, show up, start rallying georgia voters again, and do we have, you know -- >> i want to be in the room -- >> and does ron desantis show up? >> i want to be in the room when herschel walker, brian kemp and donald trump are all in there.
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>> being in that room would be great. what's your take, the way this all plays out? >> well, the donald trump question is such an important one, because no one wanted him to come here with the general election phase and brian kemp was going to be in the mountains, as far away as key get from donald trump, and even herschel walker's camp wasn't enthusiastic about the former president coming in because they were worried about he could do more harm than good but the runoff is different. if you can get the same exact number of voters to come out coming up as yesterday, you win. and republicans expected a far higher turnout than they got and that's why herschel walker didn't win this thing outright and join the other republicans who won their races. so donald trump, i wouldn't be shocked to see donald trump come back in the next couple of weeks, because he's also close to herschel walker. they go back 40 years. >> and what happens to the libertarian 2%?
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>> well, you assume that would go to the republican party. but a lot of those libertarian voters were protest voters. >> exactly. >> a lot of republicans who didn't feel like they could vote for walker or warnock. >> and republican leaders, how does kevin mccarthy spin these results? certainly less ideal than republicans had hoped for. >> i think he'll first start by taking credit for what they did last cycle. republicans have had a five seat deficit because they really overperformed years ago. and he will take credit for that. so if you add up maybe, only adding 10 or 15 seats this time, it actually turns into a pretty good two cycle swing. i think what i will also say is i got here, i got to see the majority, i got jim jordan, you will be the chairman of the judiciary committee. james coburn, chairman of the oversight committee, i got us here, i raised hundreds of millions of dollars to do this, and i'm the only person in this conference who can bring together all sides of it.
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i've got the freedom caucus in a good place. i've got the swing districts. i'm looking out for you. i'm political. and i know how to keep donald trump in a good place and nobody else can do it. the best thing he has going for him right now is there is no other real alternative. there is talk that the freedom caucus will float somebody as a nominal challenge. that will be a leverage play. and i think the question is not whether or not he is still, he has the best case to make, it is just how painful the members will make it for him to get there. i still think he has a really good case to make how good of a political operator he is, and when you're a member of congress that is correct matters a lot. >> let's go back to talking a little bit ago about trump announcing before december 6th, that becomes an even bigger issue now, given that this is officially a runoff. and the pressure that is going to be on trump to stay out that, because of the fact, what we're just saying, they don't want him in the state. kemp doesn't want him there.
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walker doesn't want him there. and how do you dance around that issue, when the president is saying i want to come and rally the troops and win this seat, because he wants the credit for getting the senate majority for republicans. and so that's going to be an interesting pressure point over the next few days and weeks. >> what about the allegations that walker faced? any indication that they ended up mattering? >> that's really not clear, and i think that will become clearer as this runoff proceeds. there were frankly a lot of voters who held their noses and voted for herschel walker anyway because they saw what was on the line. the question for me is really the gap between kemp's performance and walker's performance, and how many of those voters will continue to show up for herschel walker, and how many will stay home, and whether the infrastructure that kemp has is going to turn on a dime to support herschel walker.
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those are things that actually play into warnock's favor. i think there is going to be a strong get out the vote operation from the warnock camp, and that that has been the case since 2020, and it's go be to pay off i think hugely for a very unified democratic party. >> what's the difference maker for warnock, as he campaigns the next month, who does he want to see come down there? >> barack obama. >> barack obama. >> barack obama. >> i love it. everybody said the same thing at the same time. >> and he'll be down there. i have absolutely no doubt. look, republicans will tell you a story about the last time georgia went to a runoff in early 2021. we have control of the senate, it was at stake, which it may be today. you had david perdue. you had kelly laufler and donald trump and the drama around did it get stolen, all this kind of stuff, republicans ran a public
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service commissioner candidate in the runoff, won that race, republicans won that race, lost the two biggest races, because their base got demoralized listening to donald trump. >> brad raffensperger, georgia secretary of state is speaking now. let's listen. >> we had a beautiful day yesterday in georgia. and it's a beautiful day here again. it was just a very successful election day. we saw georgians from all over the state cast their ballots to make their voice heard. it's still a wonderful thing. this vote, this democracy, this republic, i still stand in awe of what we saw and what our forefathers had built of this nation. something so unique in human history, it's truly divinely inspired. that said, it takes people, lots of people, very hard-working people, to make it happen. so i want to give credit first to our elections team here in my
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office, as led by our director blake evans. the deputy director dr. jesse harris, and michael barnes, our director of the center for elections. their team has done amazing work. and they worked with the greatest county election team that i think our nation has, to do the tough on the ground work of polling locations and processing voters and carrying the votes. speaking of processing voters, we have an average speed of processing voters at the polls, it was simply amazing. we saw processing speeds of 48 sends and it actually gets down to 47 seconds for a few moments. there was a kind of processing speed that led to two minute average wait times across the state. i have a screen shot up if anyone wants to see it later. i read online there was a person who wanted to test our
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line-forming law. so he loaded his card with boxes and cases of bottled water to give the voters in line and started driving around, and his problem was, he couldn't find any lines. and so he even said in the article, quote, the system is running so smoothly today, that no one lined up in the sun. so that is tremendous to see that kind of responsive and good results that we had at the county level. i know all of you are probably voters also and you probably had that same casting experience. and the credit for that goes to the counties and it goes to the voters. the voters took record advantage of pre-election day voting, they had shattered the records for both absentee by mail and early in-person voting in a midterm. and we have seen that the counting, is almost fully complete, the counting, and only
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a little after 2:00 p.m. on wednesday. we see less than 10,000 voters that would be potentially out of the count, outside of a handful of votes that can be accepted by monday, november 14th. most of the races have a clear winner. in fact, the win, and i spoke last night, she graciously conceded and i thank her for that. that's the way it is supposed to be. we need all candidates who come up short to acknowledge it and to come back and fight within our system another day if that's their choice. there's one race in our state that is going to be moving to the december 6th runoff. that is the race for the united states senate between senator raphael warnock and herschel walker. our office has already been behind the scenes to start building the ballots so ballots are being built as we speak, and counties are making
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preparations. so some specifics for the process. voters can request absentee ballots now through monday, november 28th. there are about 150,000 voters who oversee an, who will receive an absentee ballots because they are on the list. these people are 65 or disabled. and the request door is now open. early voting must begin no later than monday, november 28th, in all counties. we do anticipate that some counties may likely have saturday voting following thanksgiving as well as november 26th. we are working with the counties to find out what their plans are on this front, and as soon as possible, so their voters can make the best plans. this will be a very heavy lift for our counties because it is a four-week runoff period, but i have confidence it will take all measures required to rise to the
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task. while we are working preparing for the runoff, we all have our obligation to close up the november 8th election. counties must certify by tuesday, november 15th, by 5:00 p.m. then we move to the audit. we will quote roll the dice, so to speak, on wednesday, november 16th. when the audit must be complete by november 22nd. and the state must certify by friday the 25th. that's the day after thanksgiving. it's a lot of work. but that's how the machinery of our democratic republic works. we welcome it, because we know at the end of the day, everyone wants to know that we have hospital and fair elections. and we did. i'll ask the voters to come out and vote one last time. we have no control over how many campaign ads our voters are going to see over the next 30 days. but we'll make sure that we have
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honest and fair elections. i want to thank the voters. i want to thank you for your strong participation. i want to thank you for just being so friendly and really working with the system. we only had seven precincts out of 2700 that didn't finish yesterday that had to extend past the 7:00 p.m. deadline. i want to thank the election workers. they worked long days yesterday and will be working some long days ahead. i want to thank the poll workers, and i want to thank awful their families who support them. and a special thank you to our team. thank you. and i will take your questions. yes, ma'am. >> secretary of state in georgia brad raffensperger, what a different disposition for that man than we've seen in the past. i mean he's been so, oh, god, targeted by donald trump and the right, and it just seemed like he was reveling in what was a -- >> and also vilified from --
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>> and yesterday by his account, was a successful election and he was talking about that voter who was trying to test whether he could give water to people in line law and he couldn't find any lines. okay, so let's bring in chris krebs, former department of homeland security director who oversaw the infrastructure and the cybersecurity agency. it will be a runoff in georgia. but again, it seems like the election down there went off pretty smoothly, chris. anything notable to you in what happened yesterday and anything you feel you should flag? >> well, i just want to highlight what secretary raffensperger mentioned about the election workers. tens of thoses of election workers had gone through absolute hell the last couple of years with threats and intimidation, harassment, and they delivered for democracy yesterday. so they deserve a huge debt of gratitude from us as the voters. the second thing i would highlight is the voters turned
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out in at leaf the governor and secretary of state level across the country rejected the more hard core election denialists. so the voters delivered for democracy. workers, election workers delivered for democracy. and the last point is that, hey, if you thought yesterday was good, you know, and it was a seamless election, then i think that's further validation that 2020 was in fact a safe and security election. >> chris, how much misinformation do you think was out there? we saw a lot in the run-up, according to all of our reporting. and also, some acknowledgment, extraordinarily from a top russian official, that in fact, that they had worked to manage the election outcome in the past and were doing it as of that day, about two days before the election. >> yes, i think the putin shaft or comments about interfering with the prior election, that in
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and of itself was probably a little puffery, but in terms of the broader information space, what we're seeing right now is i think the accusations followed the results. so as the results come in, slowly, in arizona, and in nevada, and you can see some of the activity in detroit, you know, as the republicans performed, as their results improved, then you'll see the claims of disinformation and the rigged election. they'll go down. but as their performance degrades, then they'll come back up. so it's a lot of opportunism in the three main areas, arizona, nevada, and detroit. >> explain the hiccup in maricopa county and whether anyone should be concerned about it. >> well, the first way to think about elections is that they perform kind of like escalators. and that if something goes wrong, they turn into stairs, right? so you still get where you're going, it takes a little bit more effort and yes it is a tortured analogy, but that is
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exactly what happened in maricopa county, where the printers, there was something wrong with the calibration on the ink that was printing on the ballots, and when they fed the ballots into the tabulators, they weren't dark enough and the tabulators kicked them out. here is the trick though. you still had a ballot that was voted that could be deposited into a secure box, the box, or go to another voting center, there were 223 voting centers in maricopa county. so gain, you have the opportunity to vote. no voters were prevented. the judge agreed with that in maricopa county and did not extend the voting time because there was no evidence that any voter was prevented from voting. >> to what extent do you think that elon musk's purchase of twitter has or is going to affect the vitality and the lack of filters, i should say, against disinformation and misinformation on that platform,
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especially after he fired so many people involved in that very process of filtering? >> well, you know, it remains to be seen. in fact, he was just doing a twitter space, a little bit ago, talking about the trust and safety team. the trust and safety team took probably one of the easiest cuts of head count, where entire teams were cut out elsewhere on twitter and there is only about a 10 to 15% cut here, and talking about some of the folks over there, they have the same tools, and they are still focused on the priority areas, including election disinformation, and it is clear out, and i think there will be some challenges with the verification process if they shift from the marker of trust of an established fish torsion hey, we verified via payment. so we will see where it goes longer term. >> chris, thank you very much for joining us. appreciate it. and joining us now is cook political reporter senior editor
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dave, goods to have you. you will be our numbers guy right now. tell us what you're looking at. >> we're looking at a house model that shows republicans on track for 222 seats plus or minus seven. and keep in mind that means they're not out of woods. there is still a chance that democrats hold on to their majority, although republicans are in a slight favor. so we've got a number of uncalled races in california, in oregon, in colorado, in nevada, and we will wait days and possibly weeks to be notified of the results of the seats. >> when you say 222 plus or minus seven, so we know that 218 is the majority, and what do you see in those races that are still open? talk about the california races. is katie porter still open? >> that is still i have much in the air. we don't know about the nature of the votes because the
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counties are oftentimes counting the votes in different orders, are they early arriving mail ballots, late arrives, different parts and skus to those, and our estimates are based on our best judgment of how each party has a chance, in each of these outstanding races. but look, andrea, the message that we learned yesterday is that republican candidates who embraced the maga brand, they reaped none of the benefits of that, because trump was not on the ballot driving turnout among that base. instead, they paid all of the price among independent voters who are uncomfortable with that brand, and so republicans in house races who ran on bipartisanship, and their military backgrounds, like jen higgens in virginia, and iowa and nebraska, they did quite well, but republicans who embraced trumpism and election denial, they paid a hefty price.
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ohio, and boebert in colorado, is in real trouble. she was down a couple thousand votes so there will be a real reckoning on the republican side. >> what is the likelihood of that kind of reckoning? >> i'm skeptical that will is going to be one? it is just based on history. and republicans have been dealt a lot of losses in recent years. but we've always found a way to find a silver lining in it. i mean 2016, of course, donald trump surprised everybody and won the white house. and the lesson that a lot of republicans took from that is you don't ever have to be apologetic about being conservative, you can go on offense and own the libs and go after the media and turn out base republicans and win an election like that. and forget about the middle. and at least that's what they thought the interpretation was. and obviously lost the house in 2018. but nobody really stopped to figure out why. and then in 2020, when donald
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trump lost, we had to look at the house and had to find another reason and to look at ourselves in the mirror and figure out what is working. maybe 2022 is the time to look ourselves in the mirror. but i doubt it. the folks who will be in washington making decision, they got re-elected, they will think it is still working for them, and the refrain you always hear from house republicans is we just fought harder. if we just communicated more with the base, if we just turned people out, because that makes them feel good, and that means that they don't have to go to anybody who doesn't agree with them. i would love it to take advantage of what still seems to be a swing-y part of this country but history shows that we are not really into it. >> i'm sure you had this conversation. i had this conversation with a lot of folks, a lot of republicans, and their sense of when the trump fever breaks is when they start paying a huge price. they are paying a pretty big price so far in this election.
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and not a big price certainly in 2020. but they paid a price in 2018. what is that price? how costly does it have to be for republicans to say enough with the trump style politics and enough with the denialism and the lies and the anger fomenting of potential violence? >> i just don't think it is going to come out of washington. again, someone like jim jordan who has huge influence in the party, in his district being on the side of donald trump is really still popular so i don't know if there is a whole lot of incentive to change. and it won't come from washington. it will come from voters. we saw it in january 6th. kevin mccarthy went to the floor and tried to distance himself and lindsey graham, they gave speeches with what was going on and when they went back home, voters didn't agree with it and voters still liked donald trump, and maybe this will change if voters look at things
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differently, i don't know, and maybe ron desantis will say it is time to move on but his power comes from a base who loves this type of politic, loves the issues that he focuses on, and as long as he is strong with them, it is really hard for people in washington to at least outwardly say it is time to move on. >> thanks so much for being with us. and when you look at the house now, and you see a house that will most likely, be led by kevin mccarthy although there is a leadership battle that could take place between now and then, how do you see it functioning? >> yes, you know, the question heading into yesterday was would republicans have a functional governing majority, or just a margin. and that's what one republican consultant asked me. and what he meant by that is that the republicans margin could be so small, and we're on track for this, that kevin
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mccarthy could be really and you lot of stress from a faction on the far right fringe including marjorie taylor greene, paul gosar, matt gaetz and he doesn't have the votes to circumvent them on key priorities, they could be really hostage takers so i do think kevin mccarthy would be a favorite speaker in the scenario where republicans land in 2021 and 2022, because there aren't any alternatives in the republican conference who could coalesce the votes of the republicans to be speaker. but it could be an ungovernable situation. >> dave wasserman, thank you very much. and we are going to sneak in a quick break. we're not going to want to go anywhere. because in a couple of minutes, we are going to get an update from clark county nevada on the state's election results. not sure what the update will be. we will find out when do you. same time for everyone. you're watching continuing coverage of the 2022 midterms only on msnbc. c. nearly 600,000 vehicles
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in just a moment, we will get an update from clark county, nevada, on that crucial vote count out there. remember, we're waiting for not just what happens with the senate, which could be all of the martials, if marbles if you will for who controls the senate, but also the governor's race. that update is at 2:30 eastern. let's go right to guad venegas who joins us right now from outside of the clark county, what do you call it, the clark county registrar's office. >> reporter: election center. here, you can see the sign right here. clark county election center. this is where they're going to tabulate the votes. this is the building that is getting all of the attention. you know, a lot of member was media, we're all here two years ago, after the presidential election, because if you can remember, nevada was also very slow counting the votes, and you can see behind me, that is the loan, member was media, that are
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going inside, and we're going to get some more information. now, the key number here is how many mail-in ballots came in on election day, in clark county. this is the largest county in nevada, the vast majority of voters are here. and in order to understand what it means to have adam laxalt up by about 23,000 votes, he is the challenger, looking for that u.s. senate seat for the republicans facing cortez masto, what does it mean for him be up 23,000 votes once we compare it to the number of ballots still left to be counted. and also in the governor's race, we know that lombardo is up by about 40,000 points. what does it mean. that is versus the governor incumbent. so we expect to get that information. also we could get more information on who the ballots are coming from. so if we get an idea of those ballots, if they're registered
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democrats versus republicans or nonpartisans, than we can set the expectation. so all of the attention is set in this building here in clark county, and it will be interesting to go inside during the presidential election, two years ago, when we went inside, we were also able to see some of the workers that were counting those votes, we were able to see what happens inside, there is a lot of talk about people saying they wanted to know what was happening inside the centers, and we were able to get in there. in fact, they allowed us to turn the cameras and go live from inside the building the last time we went inside, so a lot of the members of the media, they said that was going to start at 11:30, and we see that the members of the media are going inside slowly and it might take longer and i think it will take a half hour to get everybody inside and then we expect to hear this information we've been waiting for all morning, and how many mail-in ballots came in on election day, the key number to know, what to expect in the election here in nevada. >> guad, thank you very much.
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and once those reporter get inside with that news conference, when it begins, we will go right to it. don't go anywhere. we're on for as long as it takes frankly. >> let's bring in michael steele. we are all, you know, we're waiting with baited breath right now to see which way the wind blows. not so mix metaphors here. >> but to think about where we thought we would be, and what we thought -- >> again, you didn't think that was the case. we talked about it at the top of the show. >> i didn't. and there are a lot of reasons. why and i'm kind of out there on the limb, with a small group of us -- >> own your truth. you were right. >> here we are. and the moment is real for the country, where you're going to have a divided government, obviously, the house will likely go to the republicans, and i think a lot of folks, at least from the people we talked to, are saying okay, let's see what republicans do, and how joe
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biden works with them. and now that kevin mccarthy is going to be the majority, the speaker of the house, what does he do to sort of create that space? >> well, kevin mccarthy, i'm sorry, but he was on with cnn yesterday, i guess it was, or the day before and he was talking about the investigations he was going to do and the oversight and the way he would push back on this administration. but then in the same breath, he said and i'm going to sit down with joe biden and talk about what we're going to do next. >> talk about being in congress, let's talk about whether or not the two parties can work together, when you have marjorie taylor greene and some really extreme people in one party, and you've got certainly more partisan people in the democratic party, on the left as well. so in congress, can they work together? can they negotiate on the debt ceiling? can they negotiate on, you know some of the things that we're in
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the, that were in the reconciliation package that didn't get through, that were on the biden agenda, or is that completely out of range now for anything in the republican, if it is, if it turns outs to be, even with a small margin, a republican-led congress. >> look, i expect if there is a small margin of ren cans that there is going to be a lot of pressure on kevin mccarthy to cede power to the investigations and impeachment when the republican, in the republican conference. look, we still have over 150 republicans who are part of this sort of election denier crowd who were in there. my experience, having served in the minority, is that kinds of disadvantage that paul ryan had as speaker, and that john boehner had as speaker, actually gave democrats a lot of leverage when it came to doing must pass legislation, because those two
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speakers had to come to democrats to get those votes. and it meant holding a democratic caucus in a unified position to be able to negotiate. i think that kevin mccarthy is going to find himself unfortunately in the same situation, but i think he's also a much weaker leader, and will not be able to stave off that investigation, with the impeachment, of his conference, and i think, you know, come january 3rd, he might get to be speaker, but january 3rd, he might be setting out the lettuce for him. >> and donna from your experience in the democratic caucus, who in that caucus, in let's say the next generation of leaders has the skill set that nancy pelosi has exercised, if she does choose to step aside, and if of course, predicated on if they're in the minority. >> right. well there's a challenge. i think that inevitably there is
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going to be a transition in leadership. the top three leaders of course, among democrats are all, you know, kind of on the last leg. and so there will be a transition. look, i'm not sure that skill set exists yet among democrats, but if they want to really play as an effective minority, then it is going to have to come fast. because in order to be able to hold on republicans, there has to be unity in the democratic caucus and i think that there are some members who are going to have to learn really quickly how to do that. >> and talking about the dynamics between the progressives and the moderates going forward, how does it -- i mean what is the postmortem on this. go ahead. >> does that argument for pelosi stay, which is one of the broad ideas with anderson cooper, she is the only one who could effectively counter-point the
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republican majority. if they become the majority. >> i think speaker pelosi has a unique ability to hold the caucus together and i'm not sure the skill set exists within the new leaders, but there is only so much longer that speaker pelosi and the rest will be in there, and so at some point or other, this next generation is going to have to buckle up and learn those skills to be an effective minority. >> you got to have a bench is one thing we learned in every industry, you got to have a bench. we're going to talk more about the democrats coming up. but up next, the midterms, the first major election of the post dobbs era, how the fight for reproductive rights shaped the political landscape. you're watching continuing coverage of the 2022 midterms. only on msnbc. whenever heartburn strikes get fast relief with tums. it's time to love food back.
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delivered a series of decisive victories for abortion rights advocates, in california, michigan and vermont, voters voted to enshrine reproductive rights in the state's constitution and the biggest surprise in republican leading kentucky where voters rejected an abortion amendment. and another on the ballot in montana. nbc news has yet to call those results though. joining us now from detroit is yamiche alcindor and planned parenthood representative. yamiche explain what happened over there in michigan. >> well, like many democrats across this country, democrats in michigan are celebrating better than expected wins here. you have a number of democrats win across the board, including at the governor's mansion, with democratic governor gretchen whitmerwining over the
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trump-backed candidate tudor dixon. and you had democrats win control of the governor's mansion but both houses of state legislature, and then as you said, of course, there was proposal three, voters in the state saying they wanted to enshrine abortion rights in the state constitution much like they did in vermont and california and kentucky, which is related in some ways. voters there voted to reject the idea that they wanted to try to have an abortion ban in their state constitution. and we were talking to voters here in michigan and here is what one voter told me. >> i have a daughter who is on her way to el paso, texas to start an emergency room residency, and she needs to learn how to take care of pregnant women who are threatening miscarriages, who are having ectopic pregnancies in el paso, and it's a shame to think about the possibility that she will be sending women across the border to mexico. i'm proud of my state. i'm proud of my state. i'm glad that the messaging came out from the democratic party
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about how important this is. >> so that voter who is a physician is actually echoing a lot of the language that you heard from gretchen whitmer saying this is a life or death issue. you also saw in exit polls nationally abortion ranks in the top issue for voters after inflation, but here in michigan, abortion was the top issue. that tells you that voters are listening and that the message was resonating, that abortion advocates, obviously, i will say there is some disappointment on the side of people who are opponents of abortion rights, but overall, democrats really celebrating here. >> thank you very much. >> and as you saw on the ground there, and in the number of states, abortion according to the exit polls, it was close behind recession as the top issue, far outdistancing crime which was getting so much attention in the media. >> it was an issue driving voters to the polls and i think this election was a referendum on the extremism of the
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republican party, and certainly the candidates running this time, as yamiche said, in michigan, nearly 50% of voters in michigan said this was the issue that decided their vote, and as she said, of course, democrats did incredibly well. and in pennsylvania, it was the number one issue driving voters to vote, and make their decisions, and obviously, it is a very highly, hotly contested state, and all of the states where democratic candidates ran as governors, who of course have enormous power over whether a state will have access to safe and legal abortion, tony evers, in wisconsin, gretchen whitmer, josh shapiro, the incoming governor of pennsylvania, these were candidates who ran right into this issue, and of course, republicans are trying to do everything they could to not talk about it, but the voters understood, it was a hugely motivated issue for base voters and also for independent voters who said the republicans party has just gone too far.
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>> let's talk about kentucky. deep red kentucky. rejected enshrining their state's abortion ban into the state constitution. there's also a challenge to that, talk to me about what you saw there, and whether it surprised you. >> katy, i think it is exactly as you mentioned, similar to what we saw in the state of kansas, which i know sort of sends a shock wave through the political world, when voters in kansas defeated the constitutional amendment that was anti-abortion by 18 points. i think this is what i saw when i was the head of planned parenthood. every single state, where voters have the opportunity to make their own voice heard on this issue, whether it was a red state or not, including states like mississippi and south dakota, they soundly defeated abortion bans. and i think that the gentleman that you just heard that yamiche had sbuted, i think it is really important to understand, people don't see this as a political
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issue. they see the decisions as pregnancy and having a family to be the most deeply personal issues that they will decide in their lifetime and that crosses party lines, and it crosses geography. i think this is an issue that is going to, it not only affected these midterm elections, i think it is going to be a defining issue in the presidential race just up ahead. >> also an economic issue, you know, do i have the money to have a baby, and if i -- and can i work if i have a baby? >> and that's the point that gretchen whitmer was covering, was making, when you were covering her out there. >> certainly. i sat down with her this morning and she was telling me about the fact that she wanted to make sure that she was linking the economy and abortion here, because she says one of the biggest financial decisions that people are going to make, something that is going to help them survive and thrive in this country, is going to be how they can grow their family, and when to grow their family. the lieutenant governor also saying that it is deeply connected to economic freedom, whether a woman has the right to choose to have an abortion in
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this country, so it was a pledge that clearly resonated with voters, as we saw, record turnout in this state, and one that gretchen whitmer is continuing to lean on as she says that she will gear up possibly for a national fight, because i asked her about whether or not abortion could be banned nationally and we see lindsey graham with an abortion right that could be federal and a lot of democrats in this state and around the country in arms. >> and this is one the reasons why i talked about the polling, but then threw a big salt shaker on it, because we just don't know how people react to when a right that they have become so used to, so reliant on, for 40 years, is taken away, it was such a huge variable, that very clearly wasn't polled all that adequately as we were going into the election last night. i mean don't underestimate the power of taking something away from people, andrea. >> exactly right. and also, you know, focused on it at the time of the debate,
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with dr. oz, and you know, john fetterman debate, where dr. oz said that abortion should be between a woman and her doctor, and local politicians. and immediately -- >> democrats used that. >> and john fetterman, you know, turned that around. and focused ton for a couple of days and as a counterclaim to how john fetterman did, but we didn't see it, i say we, the large political commentary, didn't see it as becoming a twinning issue in that race -- defining issue in that race. motivating issue i should say for voters, in race after race in wisconsin, and in michigan, and in state after state, we saw abortion driving people to the polls, and being the difference in the senate races as well as congressional races, cecile. >> i think that's right, andrea, and what i talked about, you know, more and more stories are coming out now, about complex pregnancies, about decisions that women are unable to make, and in their state because
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abortion has been banned, about doctors who literally cannot care for their patients, and including in states like ohio, these stories are not unique, and they're not uncommon, and i believe, as more and more republican-led states ban abortion, they're only going to become more partisan and what the republican is talking about, and voters understand, it is a tremendous risk to the health and well-being of women and families. >> thanks so much for all of your great reporting from out there. throughout this campaign. and also of course, cecile richards, thanks to both of you. let's bring in senior capitol hill correspondent garrett haake, and steve scalise is going for officially house majority leader and kevin mccarthy officially announced his bid for house speaker. take a listen to a little of that and what mckaurgty said overnight. >> the american people are ready for a majority that will offer a new direction. that will put america back on
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track. republicans are ready to deliver. it's a new direction towards an economy that is strong, where you can fill up your tank, feed your family, where your paychecks grow and not shrink. >> okay, garrett, so dave wasserman has the house right now at 222 republican, plus or minus 7, so in other words, no call on who is going to get it. >> yup. >> and it would be a rather narrow, i mean within those margins, it would still be a rather narrow governing majority if all 7 go to the republicans let's say, or the other way, and so if the republicans do get it, and have a fairly narrow majority, how do they bring that caucus together and pick up enough democrats to pass important legislation? >> well, they're going to have a real challenge with that is the bottom line here. for mccarthy, should he become speaker and the house majority, should one exist in the
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republican house, within that kind of narrow majority, i think so. basic stuff, like keeping the government funding, raising the debt ceiling, could become very complicated, because you're going to have potentially a democratic controlled senate and even if you don't you will still have a democrat president. and compromise is not really in the dna of a lot of, particularly these newer republican members, but that's what you're going to vo have to do for the basic things to keep the government functioning. look, a republican controlled house will not be able to make law and focusing on passing messaging bills and investigating this white house and the administration. that's what their base wants and that's what a narrow majority getting them. >> thank you very much. and we're watching the update from clark county, nevada's vote coun, and jacob soboroff has made his way into the room where the counting will take place. the light just turned on. what are you waiting for? what are your sources telling you about what we're going to
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hear? >> it feels like a little bit of deja vu because exactly two years ago in the wake of the 2020 presidential election, you will remember that we didn't have the results on the tuesday into the first monday of november just like right now so we're waiting for the county, clark county registrar of voters to come in here and basically give an update about where the remains votes are and how long they will take and i want to stress for everybody, this is not unusual, this is the way the system work, statute stoerl they take their time counting the voughts to make sure the vote counting is accurate and fair and remember two days ago, or a day or two before the election, it could take up to ten days to certify the results of the election in clark county. with the razor thin margin between cortez masto, the former attorney general, adam laxalt, this press conference could have details when we will know and where the rest of the votes are coming out of the largest county here in nevada.
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>> ten days. i have a message from your wife. she does not want it to take ten days. >> she told me. >> if it takes ten days, it is going to be a lot of mischief making, i seem to recall the last time you were out there, the situation, you were chasing rick on a bus, which was one of those -- >> andrea, just on that front, i mean one thing i want to say about that is in the election administration, we're talking about the united states, when it comes to rules and regulations, and thousands of election jurisdictions, nationwide there is no uniform way they count votes in the united states and state legislatures make these statutes, make these laws about how different election jurisdictions within their states are supposed to count the votes. and the intention with these laws is to make sure that the vote count is fair and it's fect, and it's reliable, so people can have the confidence in the integrity of the system which is exactly what adax laxalt was trying to do in sowing doubt in the 2020 election and he was outside of the building here and he said
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there were thousands of illegitimate votes in the last election and that was thoroughly debunked by the republican secretary of state and by the independent investigations and by joe gloria himself and as a matter of fact he is walking in right now. so let's take a listen. i'll take a seat. >> the election department is making an effort today to try to eight as much information as we can, so the general public understands exactly what the process is going to be over the next week. so i've got a little agenda here with a lot of information. i'm going to ask that you let me get through my message here, and then when we're done, we'll give you an opportunity to ask some questions. i need to remind you all about some deadlines that are very critical in everything that we're doing here. so the mail can come through until this saturday. as long as it is postmarked by november 8th. and we will continue to pick up mail on a daily basis.
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we made arm arrangements with our main post office. the cure runs through monday, which is november 14th. so anybody on the cure list, which means we couldn't match their signature to what we have on file, they have until monday, close of business, in order to get that ballot cured. provisionals. the nbsos needs to send us reports. those won't come any earlier until next tuesday at the earliest. wednesday at the latest. so we can't count provisional ballots until we've got that report from them. so we're hoping that those will get counted by wednesday. and then the canvas is on friday, november 18th. that will be at 1:30. and commissioner chambers. at 500 grand central parkway. so a little bit about the daily activity that we're going through here in clark county to complete our count. we will hold a press conference every day, to give new
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information, new numbers, and give the media an opportunity to ask any questions related to what we're doing, to process ballots. the mail will continue to process every day. and the cure processing takes place every day as well. currently, on the website, which is available to the general public, we've got 9,579 people who have been entered into the cure process. of those, 5,396 have not yet cured their ballot. that number will continue to grow until we're finished processing the ballots. the daily hot line for the general public, if you receive notification from us that your ballot has gone to the cure, please dial 902-455-6552. in order to get assistance to cure your ballot.
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that hot line will be open thursday and friday from 7:30 to 5:30. on saturday and sunday, we will also continue to staff that, to give members of the general public as much opportunity to cure their ballot as possible. we'll be open from 8:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. on that hot line over the weekend. and monday is the last day. monday will be open from 7:30 to 5:00 p.m. in order tore people to cure their ballot. provisional validation will also be going on, on a daily basis. right now, we've got, and that number should not change, 5,555 provisional ballots that have come in through the early voting and election day period. so we've got staff that are fully focused on getting those processed from now until we report to the secretary of state. we have to make sure that those voters were eligible to be registered. once we confirm that information, then we mark that as a ballot that we can count.
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those are electronic. those are not mail ballots. those are electronic and recorded on the inperson voting machines. >> we're going to publish a release of updated results every day that we count. so we'll have the press conference, we still haven't determined exactly whether it will be the same time every day, but we will have that press conference every day, and every time we count, we'll put a new update out on the website for everybody to see. the current status, which i'm sure everybody is most interested on, so the mail will be tabulated today. it represents the drop-off boxes for monday that we sorted and put through the system yesterday, and the tuesday united states postal service pickup. so we have 14,718 mail

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