did they thought -- i just played it straight. they figured it was so boring it would be funny. >> i should note that, when you go back and watch people from high school it's always fascinating to see how they turned out. you have been the straightest line that i've ever seen. from where you were last night to who you are here, take a look. >> i as amended by the constitution, 30 33 seats are one there for the senate will be up for reelection in 1994. since it would be impractical for me to go over each race, all only go over a few of the highlights this year. the senate balances 66, 44 for the democrats as of this moment. it is highly plausible that the republicans can take over this, senate for the first time since 1986. that's all for now. there are other races, perhaps another time -- [applause] >> i did wish that --

>> it is actually impossible to not love steve kornacki. younger version of our dear friend steve takes us off the air, tonight. and on that epic throwback note, i wish you all a very good and safe and healthy night. from all of our colleagues across the network of nbc news, thank you for staying up late. i will see you at the end of tomorrow. tomorrow good evening. happy election night three. we are expecting new vote counts within the hour, and we are awaiting numbers out

of arizona for some of the most important races in the country. georgia senate race, set for a runoff in december. all focus, on uncalled senate races in arizona, and nevada. once it will decide whether democrats keep the senate. because the stakes are so high, former president trump, in the entire election denying wing of the republican party, have become laser focused on the states. about a maricopa county, and clark county, in nevada, where the bulk of the remaining votes were expected. both maricopa, and clark, have gotten tons of attention already, but what hasn't gotten much attention is the incredible lengths to which local officials, in these counties, have gone, in order to shut down any claims of election fraud. right here are video feeds of the ballot drop boxes, set up by maricopa county officials. here is a helpful video, showing how maricopa officials move ballots from one location, to the other. you can see, they are escorted by the sheriff's deputies. then, if you were still worried that something fishy is going on, you can watch one of these two feeds, of where the ballots -- ballots are stored. six different feeds, different angles, of the room where ballots are taken out of their envelope's. the county

explained, they have these stations around the room with workers from different political parties, sitting across from each other, in paris, while working, monitoring one another. you can see how the machines scan ballots. you can watch as people sit at computers, verify the signature scanned by those machines. there are nine different video feeds for you to watch votes being tabulated. on saturday, they are doing a hand count on it to double check. maricopa county, and libertarian parties, pulling out of a hat which groups of ballots will be selected for that hand count on it. and, yes. despite this almost insanely microscopic transparency, conspiracy theorists, big and small, do what they do best. here is president trump, on his social media website, truth social, this afternoon. he said, because arizona is, likely, to still be counting at the end of the week, it means they want more time to cheat. as for nevada, trump said, quote, clark county nevada has a corrupt voting system, as too many places in our soon to be third world country. so,

corruption, and cheating. despite how transparent these vote counts aren't. despite how local election officials have been loud, and clear, about the fact that they move as quickly as their state laws allow them to. despite the fact that claims of voter fraud, and corruption, have gone to physical threats to arizona, and nevada. forcing them to increase of security presence at these accounting sites, despite all of that. trump, and his wing of the gop, in this process, are more focused on fanning the flames of doubt. nevertheless, the count continues. we arc expecting more of it to come in any minute now. he there is only one person watching the states closer than the conspiracy theorists who, are refreshing those video feeds. that person's name is steve kornacki. steve, my friend, where do these races stand? let's start in arizona. >> arizona, nevada, and again, if democrats go for two for two

here, the georgia runoff will not matter for senate control. democrats will have the majority ensured. you can see, right now, the democrat of the senate race, with a lead here. it is climbing to over 100,000 votes. there was an update, earlier in the evening from pm and county, where tucson is. that is the biggest uptick we have seen so far. it helps mark kelly, it is a democratic county. it is an early vote that was reported. the early vote, the best vote that arrived in the days before the election. this boosted mark kelly's lead. a scattering of reports from small, rural, red counties that help masters. around this time, yesterday, we were looking at mark kelly's lead somewhere in the high 80, 000, so now, 24 hours later, as pima county, in maricopa county, where phoenix is in particular, have counted up big batches of

the early votes. kelly's vote has increased. what we expect, tonight, is from maricopa county, the biggest in the state. we expect another update. it will be about the size of last night's update. last night was about 62,000 votes. so, expect something tonight, we think, in the 10 to 11 hour, eastern maricopa county, in the neighborhood of 62,000 votes. these are votes that were received friday, saturday, sunday, monday. the key there, prior to election day. those votes, favoring kelly, favoring the democrats. basically, what democrats hoping for here is, again, they get a boost from the 62, 000, that kelly statewide lead climb,

somewhere north of 110, maybe 215, somewhere in that neighborhood. basically, what they want to do is build a bank of votes here that could withstand the final type of vote to be counted, which is still outstanding. in maricopa county, they tell us, is 290,000. that is the number. 290,000 votes, delivered, in person, on election day. in 2020, that was a republican group of votes. in 2018, it was a democratic votes. so, there is some mystery, and some suspense, about what this vote will look like. you assume the worst and you say, if it is like 2020, again you want kelly to have as big a league as possible once they start counting that vote. if it's republican, you want to withstand a big republican batch. the good news, for kelly, and the democrats, is not a league of 104,000 which, again, you get down maricopa county updates tonight, does figure to grow. it could withstand a very strong masters performance, with that 290,000 votes. if

masters one 60% of that, he would be picking up fewer than 60,000 votes. he trails by more than 100,000. if you are kelly, and the democrats, you are being encouraged by what you see in these numbers in arizona. though, if you are a democrat, you are worried about what you see in the governor's race. katie hobbs, the democrat, leads there. her advantage over kari lake is fewer than 20,000. so, hobbs, in a situation, that same critical batch of 290,000 done talking about, right at the end. if that is a republican-leaning in her race? she could be caught by kari lake. she could easily get caught by kari lake, if that batches republican. the difference between the senate race, and the governor's race, is critical right now. in terms of control for the senate, kelly, with a lead of 100,000. tonight, democrats hope that will grow. >> steve, 290,000 votes, cast on election day. forced to engage in this

strange, behavioral psychology a vote casting. why would people boast casts that day? what is their partisan affiliation? we will not know until the maricopa county officials deliver those votes. what is happening in nevada? >> take a look here, at the senate race in nevada. adam laxalt, the republicans lead, is just under 16,000. there is two big population centers in the state, and two major sources of outstanding vote. washable county, where reno is. there is 40,000 outstanding mail ballots in that county. there are those officials there that a fair number of these may be spoiled ballots which are not counted. look for fewer than 40, 002, actually, be counted, and released, in the end. you do have a significant chunk from their. there is, some reason, based on information they have released, about the percentage

of republicans -- republican ballots, democratic ballots, that make up this makes. there is some reason to think, laxalt, and nesto, it may be awash here in terms of how the vote shakes out. for democrats, what is very critical is nevada to make up that difference, is what comes out of clark county. the head of the elections division in clark county at a press conference, today said, they have about 50,000 votes that they are processing. yesterday, they seemed to indicate, if you took the numbers released yesterday, that those numbers were closer to 70,000. so, we are trying to get a handle on the exact number of outstanding votes in clark county. the mail votes here, in clark county, are heavily democratic. it's a democratic county to begin with. if you look at 70,000 ballots to come, assuming in that neighborhood, mail ballots from clark county, you can, easily, see cortez masto passing laxalt, if she is running at high 50, 60%, something like that. if it's down closer to 50, 000, the math gets a little more difficult. so, we want to nail

down exactly who is left there. we are expecting, sometime this hour, to get an update from clark county. in fact, i'm checking to see, if it has not yet come in. we are expecting an update from clark county tonight, and i will be curious, not just to see how much they cut that lead. but, just how big that update is in, terms of votes. i think that should said some light on what is still to come from clark county. >> definitely, we will going back to it once those numbers come in, and maybe even before that. steve kornacki, thank you, as always. >> thank you. >> joining, us john favrow, former speech writer for president obama. he co-host the podcast, pot save america. and, also, is most of the wilderness, which is a wonderful podcast of the history, and the future, of the democratic party. john, thank you for being here this evening, as we try to parse exactly what's going on. i want to draw your attention to a statistic i was not aware of, until this very moment. which is, if katherine cortez masto mark kelly and raphael warnock,, all win their races, it will be the

first time, in american history, that every incumbent senator from a party wins a reelection. that is, really, staggering, once you think about the fact going into this, there was one narrative. it was also the reality that biden is sitting at a 40, 41% approval rating. so, what do you think accounts for this incumbents, representing the party are, getting reelected en masse, across america, with an executive who does not have very high favorables? >> i mean, i think that republicans nominated lunatic candidates. there is a price to pay for right wing extremism in this election, and the reason that we saw the results what we did, is because donald trump went

around, and try to push a bunch of candidates that were as extreme as possible, and also, stacked the supreme court with right-wing justices, who then overturned roe v. wade, and fueled one of the biggest backlashes in american politics. because of that extremism, the question in this election was, will the 2018 anti trump coalition turnout? it turned out in the 2018 midterms. we saw a record turnout sendoff mid term. the big question was, what the coalition still turnout in 2022, even though democrats held the white house, and congress? even though inflation is high? even though people are upset about the economy? it turned out, because republicans nominated such extreme candidates, and especially in the senate races, that coalition turned out. the

second thing that happened is, independent voters, and especially, independent women, broke against republicans, and went for the party that is in power, which almost never happens in a midterm election. >> i, also, think there was a space carved out, because of the trump cloud of existential dread looming so large. there was a space carved out for certain democratic candidates to talk about the issues that matter to voters. whether it was reproductive freedom, whether it was the economy, writ large. whether it was health care. we have a candidate who, is still, running. his name is raphael warnock, headed for a runoff in georgia. warnock's strategy, in

this next month, is to talk about the i. r. a., inflation reduction act, specific lead the cap on the price of insulin for medicare. his bipartisan work across the aisle, his push to extend health insurance, and, to some degree, highlighting herschel walker's lack of qualifications. is it, effectively, a one-two punch? that democrats don't need to, necessarily, talk about trump because voters are familiar? does that then leave them space to talk about the issues that voters care about? or, do you think the trump cloud is, truly, the motivating factor? >> i think -- look. there is an online debate about, was abortion and democracy more important, her kitchen table issues, and inflation, and economy more important? the democrats who ran in this election, and you saw in their ads, their speeches, what they're trying to make news about, talked about all of it. they talked about the issues that were of most concern to people in their everyday lives. whether it was hoping that abortion access should remain legal in a state, weather was hoping that we didn't elect someone in a state and might overturn the next election, whether it was voting for

someone who fought hard to make sure prescription drug prices went down, or, that we invested in climate change, and lower energy prices. the problem the republicans had is not only were they extreme, they thought that they would coast into power based on people being upset with the economy. but, they had no plan. they had no plans for inflation. no plan for the economy. they thought they could run as generic republicans. if people were upset about the economy, it will sweep them into power. meanwhile, democrats were out, they're talking about how they fought against prescription drug companies, oil companies, how they fought for working people. and, by the way, they would fight to protect peoples freedoms, and whether was freedom to decide when to have

a family, or, the freedom to vote in an election, and expect it will be counted. john, hold on for one second. in the last few minutes, seconds, we've got numbers out of clark county in about of that we promised to at the top of the hour. we're gonna go right over to steve kornacki, at the big board. steve, what are those numbers saying? >> yes we just did get it back from clark out in about. now this looks like votes that election officials, yesterday, had indicated would be released today. so we are talking about, potentially, 50, 70,000. it is a little over 12,000 they've just released. and cortez masto got 7480 of them. and laxalt got 41 95. so, again, that mail vote in clark county has been strongly democratic. that is basically a 64 -- 60 1:34 split. or 61% 34%. the cortez masto scans from this new batch of votes. so, as you can see, without a statewide. that shapes 3200 votes, almost 3300 both laxalt lead. it falls down to 12,000. 671. so, again, yesterday. officials had talked about having about 27,000 ballots. this is going to get very confusing. they talked about having 27,000 ballots. yesterday.

14,000 were released last night and it looks like this is gonna be the rest of 27,000. but they're talking about it yesterday. and then there is this -- that would leave, then, this 50 -- or this batch of about 56,000 votes. clark county. this is similar to what we're talking about in maricopa county. 56,000 votes that they say were retrieved from drop boxes on election day. and it is that big question we are kind of talking about maricopa county. about how do you interpret those votes that type of vote. is the voter who dropped off the ballot in the box on

election day more democratic, more republican, somewhere the middle? what is the partisan composition of that going to be? but, again. the election, the head of elections there in clark county. you talk about having slightly more than 50,000 votes. surmising here that we just got was the balance of the type of votes we are describing yesterday. what remains is heavily that drop box vote that way retrieved on election day. so it's a question there but that is going to look like. and obviously, he was very democratic, there's really room there for cortez masto the couch march further into

advantage at lax what has. as i said, there's still about her washoe county as well. it's somewhere less than 40,000 votes to be counted for watchful county. basically, we just had a batch of 12,000 votes from park county, largest county in the state, cortez masto wins them by a little bit less than a 2 to 1 margin. what that does is it shapes laxalt lead down to 12,000. 671 statewide. >> sorry to be denser. 56, 000, and the lion share of that is from dropbox's, we think? >> i apologize while the confusion here. because it is a very complicated process. so if elected officials said

yesterday. was that they had gotten 56,000 votes, yes day afternoon they had announced that they found 56,000 votes. they got from drop boxes on election day. that was one thing that they had announced yesterday. >> which is different -- that is not people dropping off ballots at polling centers? the drop boxes that have been largely vilified by the rights, and election conspiracist, as somehow fraudulent mechanism about delivery. >> what they had talked about, yesterday. at the press conference. they do these two daily briefings. what they talk about yesterday was a pool of about 27,000 votes. hit were male that was received on election day, and it was dropbox ballots that were retrieved on the day before the election. so i talked about that, yesterday. and they also talked about receiving some mail on wednesday. the day after the election. because it could contain to come in for a few days after the election. so we saw a release of 14 -- about 14,000 votes last night. we just gotta release and 12,000 votes. just with the math in my head. i'm thinking, probably, the 27,000 are talking about yesterday. then after that press conference yesterday, they announced that there were about 56,000 votes retreat from the drop boxes on election day. specifically. so, if you're through with that 27,000.

that would become the lion share, presumably, of what is left. that the ballots are taken from dropbox on election day. the folks waiting to election day, brought the ballot, to the drop box. put it in. then we democrat, would be republican. that could be determined in the election. >> and it will be. a lot of analysis to come. steve, thank, you as always. let us know if you get any more votes. i want to match our friend john barron. john, obviously, we don't have any final results on control of the house or senate or. and we're going to be eagerly awaiting these results as they trickle in. if you look at what could be happening in the house, right? which is all gonna be a very uphill climb for democrats. the reality is, you know, trump endorsed candidates had a bad night. but they're plenty of people we're entering this new class in congress. that are unsavory actors, as a concern democracy. and the institutions that preserve democracy, right? the reality is that adam kinzinger, liz cheney, no one to be in congress anymore. and j. d. vance, your plenty of folks who are radicals sort of right wingers who are going to have a house that is covered by two or three seat majority. bye, and it's hard to say this, speaker of the house kevin mccarthy. what do you think the implications are for democrats and the landscape like that? specifically, by the administration. how best to gird themselves for the coming few years of inquisitions? >> i think, if you have speaker mccarthy and if you have a speaker mccarthy running what is a very right-wing caucus. that, he only has a few votes to spare. focus on to bring all kinds of

concessions out of him. because you could be part detailed green running the house. i think the biden ministration, and democrats in general, continue what they just did in this campaign. which is running against the right-wing extremism that is coming out of the house. and within as the house trying to take the economy hostage. by trying to, you know, cut medicare and social security to lift a debt ceiling. what it is them trying to shut down the government. whenever they are trying to do. investigations, impeachments. i think the biden administration, whether message is going to be, is look. we are trying to work pretty hard to bring down costs for families. we know that people are upset with the economy. we know that they want to try to bring down the cost. we're going to work with republicans on this. they're spending all day doing investigations, word about hunter slapped off.

tried to shut down the government. and it is -- as a result, the republicans are going to look as extreme as they did on election night. and stop and go well for them. >> do you think there's been any lesson learning? there is talk about republicans being ready to turn or past trump aside because he's delivering losses. the fact of the matter is, we disavow trump because the values that he promoted. it's just not winning stuff anymore? >> yes, well, of course. they didn't disavow trump after he led to the insurrection to the capital. they're gonna disavow him when they can't win the races. either way, look, i do think there is a possibility that they might learn lessons again. not because i've seen the light. but because they were they're not going to win. if you look across the map on

tuesday night, the non maga republicans in big races ran pretty far ahead of the maga candidates. person who knew, i, new hampshire a lot better than donaldson. like the one in ohio did a lot better than j. d. vance. so that some points, republicans think, okay. in a competitive race, we want to nominate a candidate that is not an election denier? that is non extremism. otherwise, we are going to lose. the main learn a lesson just because the political survival depends on it. too soon to tell. >> it's all political survival. john favrow, former obama speech writer, also the podcast wilderness. thank you for setting aside some time for us tonight, my friend. >> thank you for having me. >> okay, we have which was i had tonight, up next perhaps the biggest loser in this election, yes, donald trump. one of his chief investigators, congressman jamie raskin, joins us live, right here. coming up next.

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speech, next week that he wants to run for president. what do you think about that? >> i could not support him. i just couldn't. republicans on the same ticket, who he did not endorse overperformed where as his

candidates totally under performed by as much as ten point. we have a clear mission and it is time to move on. >> it is time to move on. that was virginia republican, essentially saying that she's done with donald trump adopted this week's midterm election. and, she is not the kind of republican you would expect to throw donald trump under the bus. in 2020, she was the chair of the pro trump super pac black americans to reelect the president. but, she is not the only one. here's a headline from the editorial board of the wall street journal. trump is the republican party's biggest loser. quote, mr. trump has botched the 2020 election and -- for two more years. we are going to win so much, mr. trump once said that you're gonna get sick and tired of winning. maybe, by, now republicans are sick and tired of losing. let us be clear about the conservative rationale that's on display. republicans are saying that they want to get rid of trump, not because, for example, he

called a mob to the capitol to try to undermine democracy. they are saying, instead, that they want to get rid of trump because he is losing them races. they can abide all of the anti-democratic authoritarianism that trump assad jet did to the gop. but not if it cost them seat and house in the senate. and while democrats did better than anyone expected in this election, trump's republicans will still grow their ranks in the gop. the next, congressman liz cheney, adam king zinger will be gone. but, ron johnson and marjorie taylor greene will still be there. and they will have new allies like jade events to back them up. so, what exactly does that mean for democracy? joining me now is maryland congressman and member of the january six committee, jamie raskin. it is so great to have you here. and, i should note that you are here because you just received the attorney of the year award for the american of the year magazine. so, congratulations. >> thank you for having me over. >> don't be bashful, it's a good big deal. >> well, i tried, and one major

case in my life and that was the donald trump impeachment, it ended up with a 57 to 40 vote which sounds like a victory but we didn't get to two thirds. so it wasn't convicted. >> i think that is one of the case that will go down in history for that and you seem very deserving of the war. i want to get your sense of what is happening right now. and how you are feeling about the results, as we have them thus far. >> i feel great about the results. >> do you think democracies in better hands? >> i feel encouraged, i feel emboldened. you know, people are running around saying that america was going to fall for this wall of dark money propaganda. about crime inflation. which was an absolute distraction from the fact that joe biden is presided over a huge economic comeback for america. the fact that they endangered out democracy to the points of encouraging a violent insurrection against the government. and trying to stage a coup against our constitutional order. and the american people showed that you've been in a midterm election when the pendulum

tends to swing to the party. even under those conditions people are going to stand for the idea of social progress. so the democrats are hanging tough. and that is all over the country. i'm so proud of my colleagues, across america. that's what fought so hard under very difficult conditions. mccarthy went out and raise hundreds of millions of dollars and corporate dark money to lie about what is taking place in the country. and the people rejected it. and our candidates, some of whom won, like abacus bamberger. lifetime a lofty, some -- so laid didn't win. but i'm proud of everyone for hanging tough for america. so, look, if we are going up at two major parties or pro democracy. today we had one democracy party. >> i wonder, what the implications of that are for the work that you are doing. for example, on the january 6th

committee. are you guys preparing for a potential republican takeover. doesn't seem likely that kevin mccarthy will be a big fan of continuing the important work you have been doing on behalf of american democracy. >> first of all, we begin a transparency accountability, we're gonna get all the critical information out to america. we're gonna preserve all of our records so nothing gets destroyed and we're going to issue a final report. which recounts the former president systematic assault on the constitutional order. and in attempt to seize the presidency. it is also going to look at the structural conditions that allowed him to do that. the attack on domestic violence extremist groups. the fact that the extremist groups were running wild on social media. and a for logistical coronation of their plans for the assault on the capitol. and some of the other, ingredients that took place. so it can be more in-depth. and more details about

everything that we found. and then conclude with a set of legislative recommendations of how to prevent who's, insurrections, political violence, and electoral sabotage. >> that seems like an important set of conclusions for everybody to get a hold of. it is not lost on anyone that donald trump is supposed to testify to the committee next monday. is it your expectation that he will testify? do you intend to hold him in contempt of congress if he doesn't? >> i do want to get to those hypotheticals. one would think that a guy who, you know, brags on the social media. rides that his rallies about everything that happens. he's already floating mass pardons for people who were convicted of seditious conspiracy, i've conspiracy to interfere with the federal

proceeding. what come forward, as a former president of the united states of america, to testify. but why he feels that way. and we've had more than 1000 people come forward. it just a handful of people, directly, around him who think that somehow they're above the law. they think of the state pending case that they are not. and what is going to subpoena to testify. they have a legal obligation to do it. and if not, the acting contempt of congress support. >> trump is also dangling outs, as recently as a few hours ago. this idea he's going to announce its candidacy for the presidency. on tuesday. does that affect the work that you do? how much is that in year -- how much are you thinking about that? how much is a concern committee considering that? >> it's a legal proposition. of course, purposely -- in terms of crime committed. if you commit a crime, whether it is incitement to

insurrection or interference with the federal proceeding. where seditious conspiracy. or murder, or theft, or whatever it might be. the fact that you're going to run for another office does not somehow immunize you from a prosecution. people should understand that. don't think you should can go out commit a crime, robin bank, they declare the running for state council and it could be okay. it doesn't work that like that. i think it is a brother punt from a legal perspective. from a political perspective, obviously, we're concerned. because we think that our constitutional democracy is under attack. by's people. and the political scientists

tell us that the features of the authoritarian political party are that they don't accept the results of democratic election. we embrace political violence and we operate as a cult of authoritarian personality. where writing impeachment party i was telling all this as i can talk to. that's just for the country, if you do for the constitution, we have to do for political parties because he will destroy your political party. >> i think to begin to see a little bit about that in terms of the referendum that is effectively and trumpism that happened on tuesday. as the public has been focused on the midterm, the committee has not stopped working. in particular, you guys have been interviewing members of the secret service. about what happened on january 6th. we know from public reporting that you've interviewed the driver of the presidents suv on january 6th. does anything that you have heard in that, in that testimony.

conflict from what we've heard from cat cassidy hutchinson and her account of the event? >> i don't talk about the d to the specific people testimony but i will tell you that nothing i've seen anywhere in this process contradicts cassidy hutchinson's accounts in any way that undermines my confidence in her testimony. and the accuracy of what she was reporting. vice president pence, and his op-ed that was published today basically recounts the episode of being taken down by the secret service into an undisclosed location in a parking garage. repeating, i'm not getting in that car. and stating that is what he said. we should be our sixth most chilling words of certain steps

out, if not all of american history. he knew that he fools taken away there was gonna be an effort to stage a coup and to continue with the trump's effort to steal the election on the floor. he said he's not getting the car and steal for college votes were counted. so, to my mind, vice president who showed, for most points of trump's presidency nothing other than invertebrate sick offensively. on that day, earned his salary and demonstrate himself to be a constitutional patient on that day. >> in the op-ed it's, next up from his book, he effectively cooperated there is a pressure came on him to not certify the election in the states. >> i was holding, trouble trying to get him to step aside his constitutional role and just obliterate and vaporize electoral college votes from arizona, georgia, pennsylvania. just disappear the votes of tens of millions of people. >> jamie raskin, maryland congressman and member of the jarrett nor a six committee. lorry of the year. and i just say, lawyer of the year by my book. thank you for being here congress man. >> for the night. >> thank you. up next for trying get some more information on that all-important about the senate race. how many votes are left, and is there a path for senator, catherine cortez masto to hold on to her seat? the dean of the nevada press corps, john austin, joins us next. . for chest, neck, and back. it goes on clear. no mess. just soothing comfort. try vicks vapostick.

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hour. and we see news projects that democrat, aaron ford, has won the attorney general reason about. moments ago, got a new batch of ballots in clark county about. then about race for u.s. and it has tightened slightly. republican adam laxalt believed by less than 2%. we still do not know which party will gain power in the upper chamber, so for more, we are joined now by john ralston, ceo of the nevada independent. john, thanks for being here tonight. how are you reading this latest tranche of information. both ballots and results overseeing in a bad. that the ag's result, at, all change ideas about what may be happening the senate race? >> >> no, because around port was gonna win that race. almost as soon as we saw the first results of election night. he was very weak opponent and he did a very great job of exposing for who she is. the senate race is a completely

different animal. let's talk about what just happened out alice. there's about 12,300 folks released in clark county. and catherine cortez masto and adam laxalt had about 34%. and that sizable margin she got last night in clark county. it is still enough, if these margins were to hold out above 60%, for her to catch up to him. now, there is one slight mystery out there, alex. that is exactly how many ballots are removed. we think that there are somewhere between 80 and 100,000 ballots. but we're not sure how many, and it's how those ballots break that could be the key to this race. one other thing to complicate

everything further. is that mail can still committed saturday. as long as it was postmarked on election day or before. and in those ballots, some of them are being taken out as they can be cured, as a term of art, up until a couple of days later. we may not know for sure what this race until next week alex. >> painful. you know, you tweeted, i think two days ago about how close nevada senate races have been, historically. we're talking about races that everyone from harry reid on has had races that hung on a handful of ballots. 40, 200, 300. not large numbers. do you think this races shaping up to be something that hangs on such a sharp, tights, razor's edge? >> it is really possible. it is a great question. as you said we have had some really close senate races here. i've covered the harry reid race against john and seen in 1998 that was decided by 400 votes after a recount. we could get into that territory. it's a little bit hard to tell, alex. we will know in a couple more

days. just how close this is. but i would not be surprised if it ends up being that close. it is a much different world now than, any of those other races that you mentioned. with all these mail ballots out there. we are just not sure how many clark county ballots are left. we think it is at least 50,000 plus, which is a lot of ballots. but katherine cortez masto also has the main thing and maintain that 60% edge never trump. washable county has tens of thousands of ballots left. maybe as many as 40. she's got open those by a pretty sizeable margin to. so, we will know a lot more. there's gonna be washed county results released later tonight, alex. that will tell us something. >> we are becoming experts in these various detailed stated thumps. and behaviors of voters as they vote on election day, at dropbox is, at the precincts. it is a whole new form of election psychology. john, ceo of the nevada independent, who is great to

thank you and talk to you tonight. up next, we have a look about pennsylvania's-elect john fetterman beat the odds to flip that seat in the keystone state red to blue. one of the lead strategist from that winning campaign joins us live to tell us about what went down, how they did, it onset, next. homegrown tomatoes...nice.

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senate races in arizona, about, and the possibility that democrats might just hold on to the upper chamber depending on the outcomes there. one of the main reason the democrats are even in this position to begin with is because of john fetterman's win in pennsylvania, on tuesday night. i wouldn't let the senate seat that republicans have held on to for more than a decade. edmund beat the odds in a very tight race against celebrity doctor, mehmet oz. for millions of his own money. his campaign was backed by donald trump. betterment managed to do all of that while recovering from a stroke he suffered seven months before election day. but vindman's campaign was as unique as the circumstances. beyond the messaging and the needs, there was veteran himself who address his own challenges as a central part of that campaign. we talked about his struggles with speech, and this auditory processing delays that resulted from the stroke. and talk about those things as he made a promise. that he would fight for anyone

who quote, got knocked down and had to get back up. joining us now is rebecca katz, senior adviser to pennsylvania's newest senator john, fetterman. she's also democratic strategist. thank you for joining me tonight i know you like to hear senator, vitamin. come out of everyone's mouth. >> so, just talk to me about how you guys grappled with this health event that is soon to be senator elect fetterman had? and i guess i would just focus on the decision to put him on the debate stage. it's not a lot of people's mind. that was a controversial move. but it is not one that cost him the election. >> let's think about what got us here. it was john fetterman. it was being himself. being authentic. he ran a campaign that really claim to the strength. he's from pennsylvania. he's for pennsylvania. he gets regular people. so what we have the discussion about the debates. it was about showing people

what he's going through. when he was having the stroke, and had to recover. he had to recover in public. that is not an easy thing to do. so we started talking about that more. and he would say it rallies has anyone had a stroke? and everyone would raise their hand. >> a lot of people know people had strokes. people understood that he was going through something. and he was going to get better. and there is a humanity there that i think a lot of the coverage completely missed. >> the authenticity, the sort of solidity a fetterman through all of it. did he ever doubt that he should be going public with this? i just wonder how convinced he was. it is so vulnerable, to be out, they're healing from something like this. and running a high stakes senate campaign. >> i would say was not fun. it was a very hard thing to recover that way.

but he knew he was getting better. and so we went out there, and he gave it his best shot. and as you said, when you're knockdown have to get back up. that's what he did. >> did you ever wear is a campaign? there is a moment where it seemed like he was not going to be a big deal this summer with the memes about crudités or dominating. >> they unloaded 100 million dollars in attack ads. their theory of the case was not to build oz up. but to tear john down. and pennsylvanians sought through that. they saw that he -- that he was one of them. and also from new jersey. and you can laugh like we can talk about it all summer long. the jersey shore. and all the things that we did. at the end of the day, people knew that also from new jersey. john was from pennsylvania. when he voted that was the number one issue. oz is not from here. >> he is also hundreds and

fetterman. it's not just the authenticity though to. i think this election is heartening to people across the country because it was an exercise in empathy. for a lot of people. the idea that you would kind of forgive someone for not being operative at 100 percent. but you knew they could get better. and you believe in them. >> join us also very smart, he's very funny. he connected with folks. that comes across. >> i did have one more question. is he going to wear a suit and tie? does he have to wear one? >> john has a suit. let's be very clear about that. he wore 20 preside over the senate. he will wear more of them. >> more of the suits? >> he will buy more suits. >> does that mean with shorts? >> i mean he will shorts as much as he can, but when he has to wear suit, he will wear the suit. >> this is like the most controversial thing he's gonna grapple with in the coming months. democratic strategist, rebecca, cats adviser to the fetterman campaign. congratulations and a very hard-fought battle. thank you for joining us tonight. that does it for us, we will see you again tomorrow, our special election coverage

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