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good evening. happy election night three. we're expecting new vote counts within the hour in nevada and we're also awaiting new numbers out of arizona for some of the most important racesor in the country. with georgia senate race also set for a runoff in december, all the focus is on uncalled senate races in arizona and nevada. ones thatan will decide whether democrats keep the senate. because the stakes are so high, former president trump and entire election denying wing of the republican party have become laser focused on the date particularly in maricopa county, arizona and clark county, nevada, where the bulk of the
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remaining votes are expected. they have gotten a ton of attention already. what hasn't gotten much ascension -- attention is the incredible lengthh this is very gone to shut down election fraud. these are video feeds of the ballot drop boxes. here is a helpful video showing how maricopa officials moved ballots from one location toff e other. you can see that they are escorted by sheriffs deputies. but then if you were still worried that something fishy was going on, you can watch one of these two feeds of the vaults where the ballots are stored. there are six different feeds, different angles of the room where the ballots are taken out of the envelopes. they have the stations around the room with workers from different political parties sitting across from each other in pairsro while working monitoring one another. you can see how the machine scan ballots. you can watch as people sit at
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computers verifying the signatures. there are nine different video feeds. saturday, they're doing a hand count audit to double check the voting chmachines. here are the chairs of the republican democratic and lib teri parties pulling out of a hat whichng groups of ballots wl be selected for that hand count audit. despite this insanely microscopic transparency, conspiracy theorists, big and small, they are doing what they do best. here is president trump on the sociales media website truth social this afternoon. he said because arizona is likely to be counting at the end of the week, they want more time to cheat. as for nevada, trump said clark county, nevada, had a corrupt voting system in our soon to be third world country. corruption and cheating. despite how transparent the vote counts are. despite how local election
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officials have been loudl and clear about the factal that they're moving as quickly as the state laws allow them to. despite the fact that claims have led to physical threats against he lek t leaders in arizona and neff force them to increase security presence despite all of that, trump and his wingha of the gop are less focused on the reality of this process and more focused on fanning the flames of doubt.es never the less, the count continues. and we'ree expecting more of i to come in any minute now.ny and there is only one person watching they states closer th the conspiracy theorists refreshing the video feeds and that person's name is steve kornacki. steve, my friend, where do these races stand? let's start in arizona. >> all right. yeah, so arizona, nevada, again, the democrats go too for two here, the georgia runoff won't matter for senate control. the democrats have majority ensured. you see mark kelly, the democrat
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in the senate race with a lead here. it climbed to over 100,000 votes. there was an update earlier in the evening from pima county, tucson, is the biggest update we've seen so far that helped mark kelly. it's a democratic county. early vote reported. the early vote is the best vote. it arrived in the days before election. that boosted mark kelly's lead. there are a scattering of reports from the small rural red counties in the state too that have helped masters a touch.st the bottom line is around this time ayesterday, we were looki at mark kelly's lead somewhere in the high 80,000. now 24 hours later, where phoenix is in particular, they counted up big batches of the early votes. kelly's vote increased. we're expecting another update. last night's update was 62,000
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votes. so expect something62 tonight, think in the 10 to 11 hour eastern time out of maricopa county in the neighborhood of 62,000 votes. again, these are votes received friday, saturday, sunday, monday. the key there, prior to election day. those votes have been favoring to kellyha and the democrats. basically what democrats are hoping for here is, again, they get a boost from that 62,000 that kelly statewide lead climbs north of 110, maybe 115,000, some where in that neighborhood. because basically what they're trying to do is build a bank of votes here that could withstand the final type of vote to be vo counted. what is still teoutstanding. in maricopa county, it is 290,000. that is the number. 290,000 votes that were delivered in person on election day. and in 2020 that, was a very republican group of votes. in 2018, it was a democratic group of wavotes.
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so there is mystery and suspense about what this vote will look like. but if you're a democrat, you kind of assume the worst and say okay, if it's like 2020 again, you want kelly to have a big -- as big a lead as possible when they start counting that vote. if it's republican, you want to be able to withstand a big republican batch. the good news for kelly and democrats is that lead of 104,000 which again when you get that maricopa county update tonight, it does figure to grow. could withstand a very strong mastersry performance with that 290,000 votes. if masters won 60% of that, he'd be picking up fewer than netting fewer than 60,000 votes. he already trails by more than 100,000. if you're kelly and the democrats, i think you're very encouraged by what you've been seeing in these numbers in arizona. though ifs you're a democrat, you're worried about what you'ro seeing in the governor's race. katie hobbs leads. the lead over kari lake is fewes
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than 20,000 votes. hobbs is in a situation where the samea batch of 290,000 tha they're going to count at the very end if, that is republican leaning in her race, she may be caught by kari lake if that batch is republican. so the difference between theis senate race and t governor's ra is pretty critical right now. in terms of control for the senate, kelly withf a lead of over 100,000. tonight, democrats are hoping that will grow. >> reyeah. steve, 290,000 votes cast on election t day. we're forceded to engage in the strange psychology of vote casting. why would people cast votes? what is their party affiliation. we won't know until the maricopa county officials deliver the tallies. what is happening in nevada? take a look here at the senate race in nevada. the republicans lead is just under 16,000 votes. too big populations in the state. there are two major states.
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where reno is, there are 40,000 outstanding mail ballot in washo county. there is indication from the officials there that some of these may be fair number of these may end up being spoiled ballots. they're not counted. look for fewer than 40,000 to actually be count and released in the end. you do have a significant chunk from there. there is also some reason based on information they released about the percentage of republicans -- republican ballots and democratic ballots that make up this mix. there is some tron think that it may be more of a wash here. so i think for democrats what is really critical in nevada for cortez-masto to make up that is here. in clark thcounty, there was a press conference today where he said they have 50,000 votes that they're processing.
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yesterday they seemed to indicate -- if you took the numbers they leased yesterday, it indicated that number was closer to 70,000. so we're trying to get a handle here on the exact number of outstanding votes. if you're looking at 70,000 ballots to00 come from clark county, that's -- can you easily see cortez-masto passing laxalt. so we're trying to nail down how many are left there.
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you hit an update. >> yeah. well, we'll be going back to you once the numbers are g coming i. and maybe even before that.or steve kornacki, thank you as rn always. >> thank you. >>ac joining us now john favro, former speechwriter for obama. he is the host of the wilderness, a wonderful podcast about the history and future of the democratic party. john, thank you for being here. i want to draw your attention to a statistic i wasn't made aware ofi until this moment. if katherine cortez-mastoa enwarnock win their races, it will be first time that they have all won their election.ct
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staggering going into this there was onent narrative and the reality that biden is sitting at a 40% approval rating. what do you think accounts for this notion? incumbents are getting re-elected en masse across america with an executive who does not have pretty high favorables. >> will is a price to pay for right-wing extremism. the reason we saw the results is because trump went around and tried to push a bunch of candidates that were as extreme as possible and also stablgd th supreme court with a bunch of right-wing justice who's overturned roe v. wade and fueled one of the biggest backlashes in american politics. and becausees of that extremism you know, the big question in theyqu election was will the 20
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anti-trump coalition turn out? it turned out in the 2018 mid terms. we saw record turnout in the midterm. would thatt coalition still tu out in 2022 even though democrats held the white house in congress.se even though inflation is high. it turned out that because republicans nominated such extreme candidates, and especially in the senate races that, coalition turned out. and the second thing that happened is independent voters and independent women broke against republicans. and went for the party that is in power. that almost never happens in a midtermen election. >> i also think there was a spaces carved out because the trump cloud of dread loom sod large. there was a space korveed out for certain democratic candidates to talkce about the issues that really matter to voters. whether it was the economy writ
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large, whether it is health care. we have a candidate who is still running. hisin name is warnock. he is head ford a runoff in georgia. and warnock's strategy in the next month is to talk about the ira, inflation act. specifically the cap one. t the price of insulin for medicare. the push to extend health insurance and toex some degree highlighting hear shell walker's lack of qualifications. does that -- is effectively this one-two punch that democrats don't have to necessarily talk about trump because voters are so familiar? and then that leaves them with space that the voters f want to talk about. or do you think the trump cloud is the motivating factor? >> there is a debate about was abortion andba democracy more important? were kitchen table issues and inflation and economyue more important?
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the democrats that ran in this election and you saw it in the ads, in the speeches, you saw it in what they tried to make news about, they talked about everything. they talked about issues that were of most concern to people in their every day lives. whether that was hoping that abortion access would remain legal in a state, hoping we didn't elect someone that might overturn the next election, whether it was voting for someone who fought really hard toug make sure that prescriptio drug prices went down or invested in climate change. the problem for republicans is not only were they extreme, they thought they were going to coast into powe based on people being upsetle with the economy. but they had no plan. they offered no plan for inflation or the economy. they felt they could run as generic republicans and then if people were upset about the economy that, would sweep them intoth power. democrats were out there talking about how theys fought against prescription drug companies and fought fort working people.ki
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and by the way, they were going to fight to protect people's freedoms whether it ist freedo to decide when to have a family or the freedom to vote necessity election andre expect that your vote is going to be counted. >> john, hold on for one second. in the last few minutes, seconds, we've gotten the numbers out of clark county, nevada, that we promised you. we're going to steve kornacki. what are the numbers saying? >> we did just get a batch from clark county, nevada. it looks like votes that election officials yesterday had indicated would be released to day. we were talking about potentially 50,000.y it's a little over 12,000 they leased. cortez-masto got 7,490 of them. the mail vote is strongly democratic. that is basically a 61-34 split.
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that what does statewide that, shaves 3200 votes off laxalt's lead. again, yesterday officials talked about having 27,000 ballots. it gets very confusing. they talked about having 27,000 ballots yesterday. 14,000 released last night. it looks like this is the restst 27,000 that they were talking about00 yesterday. that would leave then this batcs of about 56,000 votes clark county, similar to what we're talking about.ab 56,000 votes they say were retrieved from drop boxes on election day. it's that big question we were talking about. how do you interpret the votes? that type of vote? is the voter who drops off the
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ballot in the box on election day more democratic, more republican, somewhere in the mid snl what is the partisan composition of that going to be? the head of elections is talking about havingti slightly less th 50,000 votes. what we just got was the balance of a type of vote he was describing yesterday and v what remains is heavily that drop box vote. so it's a question of what that's going to look like. obviously, if it's very 's democratic, there is room for cortez-masto to cut in that advantage that laxalt has. it is somewhere less than 40,000 votes to be counted from this county the we had a batch of 12,000 votes from clark county, largest county in the state. cortez-machlto wins them. it shavesac the lead down to
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12,671 statewide. >> sorry to be dense. 56,000. and that is from drop boxes we think? >> so, yeah. i apologize for all the confusion here. this is -- it's just a very complicated process. but what election officials said yesterday was that they had gotten 56,000 votes add of yesterday afternoon. they found 56,000 votes they got from drop boxes on election day. that was one thing they announced yesterday. >> which is different than drop boxes -- that's not people dropping off ballots at polling centers. the drop boxes that have been largely vilified by the right and election conspiracy sifts a fraud rent mechanism of vote delivery. >> theyvo do two daily briefing. what they talked about is a pool of about 27,000 votes that were mail that was received on election day and it was drop box
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ballots that were retrieved on the day beforedr the election.he so they talked about that yesterday. and they also talked about receiving some mail on wednesday. so we saw a release of about 14,000 votes last night. we just got a lease of 12,000 votes change. i'm thinking it's about that 27,000 they were talking about yesterday. and then after that press conference yesterday, they announced there were aboutth 56,000 votes retrieved from the dropro boxes on election day specifically. stha that would become the shave of what was left. they brought the ballot to the drop box and put it in. is that democratic o i republican? that could be determinedive for the election. will be.
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a lot of analysis to come. steve, thank you as always. let us know if you get any more votes. >> will do. >> john, so it's -- obviously, we don't have any final results on control of the house or senate. we're going to be eagerly waiting the results as they trickle in. if you look at what the could be happening in the house, right, which was always a very uphill climb for democrats, the reality is, you know, trump endorsed candidates had a bad night. there were plenty of people who arent entering this new class i congress that are unsavory actors. you have plenty of folks entering this race and you could have house that is governed by a two or three seat majority by --
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it's hard to say this speaker of house kevin mccarthy. what do you think the implications are for democrats? >> i think if you have speaker mccarthy running for what is a very right-wing caucus that he only has a few votes to spare so they're going to sort of ring off the concessions out of him, it's going to beou marjorie tayr green running the house. they continue to run against the right-wing extremism that is the house.of and whether it is the house tryingr to take the economy hostage by trying to cut medicare andto social security lift the debt ceiling, whether it is them trying to shut down
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the government, whatever they're trying tont do, investigations, impeachment. i think the biden administration what their message is going to be look, we're trying to work hard to bring down costs for families. we know that people are upset with the economy. the reps are going to look as extreme as they didoi on electi night and it's notdi going to g well for them. >> is there any lesson learning in terms of -- there is this talk that republicans need to turn -- cast trump aside because he is delivering losses. the fact of the matter is they're not saying we disavow trump because of the values he promoted. he's just not winning stuff anymore. >> yeah. well, of course.
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i do think there is a possibility they may learn lessons again and not because they have seen thess light. but because they're worried they're not going tous win. look, if you look across the map on tuesday night, the nonmaga republicans in big races ran pretty far ahead of the maga candidates. chris sununu in new hampshire did a lot better. he did a lot better than jd vance. so at some point the republicans are going to think, okay, in a competitive race, do we want to nominate a candidate that is not an election denier and not an extremist because otherwise we're going to islose. they may learn a lesson because the political survival depends on it.l too soon to tell.o >> all about political survival. john favro hosting wilderness, thank you for set ago side time tonight, myde friend. >> thanks for having me. >> okay. we have much more ahead here tonight. and up next, perhaps the biggest loser in this election, yes, donald trump. one of the chief investigators
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jamie raskin joins us live right here next. t.
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donald trump makes a speech that he wants to run for president, what would you think about that? >> i could not support him. i just couldn't. republicans on the same ticket who he did not endorse overperformed whereas his
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candidates totally underperforms by ten points. we have a clear mission. and it is time to move on. >> it is time to move on. that was virginia's republican lieutenant governor, essentially saying she is done with donald trump after this week's midterm election. and she is not the kind of republican you would expect to throw donald trump under the bus n 2020, she was the chair of the pro trump super pac black americans to re-elect the president. but she is not the only one. here is a headline from the editorial board of "the wall street journal." trump is the republican party's biggest loser. mr. trump botched the 2020 elections and could hand democrats the senate for two more years. we're going win so much, mr. trump said that, you're going to sick and tired of winning. maybe by now republicans are sick and tired of losing. let us be clear about the conservative rational. republicans are saying they want to get rid of trump not because,
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for example, he called them mob to the capitol to try to undermine democracy. they're saying instead that they want to get rid of trump because he's losing them races. they can abide all of the anti-democratic authoritarianism that trump injected into the gop. but not if it costs them seats f democrats did better than anyone expected, trumpist republicans will grow ranks in the gop. in the next congress, liz cheney and adam kinsinger will be gone. they will have new allies like jd vance to back them up. what does that mean for democracy? joining me is member of the january 6 committee, jamie raskin. year here because you just received the attorney of the year award for the american lawyer magazine. congratulations. >> thank you. >> don't be bashful. it's a good big deal. >> i tried one major case in my life and that was the donald
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trump impeachment. it ended up with a 57-43 vote that sound like a victory. we didn't get to two-thirds so he wasn't convicted. >> this is a case that will go down in history. you seem very deserving of the award. i want to get your sense of what is happening right now and how you are feeling about the results as we have them thus far. >> i feel great about the results. >> do you feel like democracy is in better hands? >> i feel encouraged. i feel emboldened. people were saying that america was going to fall for this wall of, you know, dark money propaganda about crime and inflation which was an absolute distraction from the fact that joe biden is presided over a huge economic come back. the fact they endanger our democracy to the point of encouraging a violent insurrection against the government and trying to stage a coup against our constitutional order. and the american people showed
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that even in a midterm election, even under those conditions, the people will stand for democracy for freedom and the idea of social progress. so the democrats are hanging tough. and that's all over the country. i'm so proud of my colleagues across america who have fought so hard under very difficult conditions. mccarthy went out and raised hundreds of millions of dollars to lie about what is taking place? the country. some of them lost. some are still on the line tonight. >> laura? >> yeah. >> and elaine didn't win. i'm so proud of everyone for hanging tough for america. when we grew up, we had two major parties that were
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pro-democracy. today we have one democracy party. >> i wonder what the implications of that are. you are preparing for a major takeover? >> first of all, because we believe in transparency, we're going to get all of the critical information out to america. we're going to preserve our records so nothing gets destroyed. they will recount the constitutional order and the attempt to cease the presidency. it is also going to look at the structural conditions that allowed him do that. the attack on elections, the domestic violent extremist groups the fact that the extremist groups were running wild on social media and using
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it for logistical coordination of the plans for the assault on the capitol. and some of the other, you know, ingredients that took place. it will be more indepth and detailed about everything that we found. it will conclude with a set of legislative recommendations about how to prevent coups and political violence and electoral sabotage. >> that seems like an important set of conclusions for everybody to get ahold of. you know, it's not lost on anyone that donald trump is supposed to testify to the committee next monday. is it your expectation that he will testify? do you intend to hold him in contempt of congress if he doesn't? >> yeah, i don't want to get the hypotheticals. one would think that a guy who, you know, brags on the social media, who brags at his rallies about everything that happened, he's already floating mass pardons for people who are convicted of seditious conspiracy and conspiracy to
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interfere federal proceeding will come forward as former president of the united states of america to testify about why he feels that way. we had more than 1,000 people come forward. it's handful of people above him. they're not. when anybody is subpoenaed to come and testify before congress or a court, this he have legal obligation to do it. if not, they're acting in contempt of congress for the court. >> this sounds like maybe he will be charged with contempt of congress. trump is also dangling out this idea that he's going to announce his candidacy for the presidency. how much are you considering that? >> it is a legal proposition. it is irrelevant in terms of crimes committed f you commit a crime whether it's insightment to insurrection or interference with a federal proceedings or seditious conspiracy or murder or theft or whatever it might
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be, the fact that you're going to run for another office doesn't somehow immunize you from a prosecution. and people should understand that. so don't think that you can just go out and commit a crime, rob a bank and then declare that you're running for city council and you're going to be okay. it doesn't work like that. i think it's irrelevant from a legal perspective. from a political perspective, obviously, we're concerned. we think our constitutional democracy is under attack by these people. and, you know, the political scientists tell us that the features of an authoritarian political party are they don't accept the results of democratic elections when they don't go their way. i told all the republican senators i could talk, to you have to do this for the country and the constitution. but you got to do it for your political party, too. he will destroy your political party. >> i think they're beginning to see a little bit of that in terms of the referendum that was
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effectively on trumpism that happened on tuesday. as the public is focused on mid terms, the committee has not stopped working. you've been interviewing members of the secret service about what happened on january 6. we know from public reporting that you interviewed the driver of the president's suv on january 6. does anything that you heard in that testimony conflict with what we heard from cassidy hutchison in her account of the events? >> i don't want to talk about the details of the specific people's testimony. i will tell you that nothing i have seen anywhere in this process krikts cassidy hutchison's account in any way that undermines my confidence in her testimony. and the accuracy of what she was reporting. vice president pence in the op-ed today recounts the
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episodes taken down by the secret service into an undisclosed location of a parking garage and repeating, i'm not getting in that car. i mean stating that's what he said. which to me are six of the most chilling words of certainly this episode if not all of american history. like he knew that if he was taken away there was going to be an effort to stage a coup and to continue with the trump's effort to just steal the election on the floor. he said he's not getting in the car until the electoral college votes are counted. to my mind, vice president who showed, for most points of trump's presidency nothing other than inverted fancy on that day earned his salary and demonstrated himself to be a constitutional patriot on that day. >> and in that op-ed, there is an excerpt from this book. he said there way a pressure campaign on him. >> that is the whole thing. trump was trying to get him to step out of his constitutional role and just obliterate and vaporize electoral college votes
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from arizona, georgia, and pennsylvania. just disappear the votes of tens of millions of people. >> jamie raskin, maryland congressman, lawyer of the year, can i just say lawyer of the year by my book. thank you for being here, congressman. >> for the night. >> thank you, alex. >> thank you. >> up next, we're going try to get more information on that all important nevada senate race, how many votes are left? is there a path for senator katherine cortez-masto to hold on to her seat? e cortez-masto td on to her seat there's a different way to treat hiv. it's every-other-month, injectable cabenuva. for adults who are undetectable, cabenuva is the only complete, long-acting hiv treatment you can get every other month. cabenuva helps keep me undetectable. it's two injections, given by my healthcare provider, every other month. it's one less thing to think about while traveling. hiv pills aren't on my mind. a quick change in my plans is no big deal. don't receive cabenuva if you're allergic to its ingredients or taking certain medicines,
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aaron ford has won the attorney general race in nevada. and we got a new batch of ballots in nevada. the race tightened shiitely. adam laxalt leads by less than 2%. we don't know who will gain majority in the upper chamber. john, thank you for being here. how you are reading this latest traunch of information both ballots and results that we're seeing in nevada? how does -- does the ag's results change your ideas about what may be happening in the senate race? >> well, no, alex, ford who is going to rinne that race almost as soon as we saw the first results from election night had a very weak opponent.
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he did great job of exposing her. for who she s the senate race is a completely different animal. and so let's talk about what just happened. there were about 12,300 votes released in clark county. and katherine cortez-masto got 36%. that is slightly below the margin last night. it is still enough if these margins were to hold above 60% for her to catch up. there is one slight mystery out there, alex. that is exactly how many ballots are left. we think there are 80,000 to 100,000. mail can still come in until saturday as long as it was postmarked on election day or
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before and those mail bat lol, some of them are taken out because they're tl are problems. they could be cured. that is term up until a cup days later. we may not know for sure who won this race until next week, alex. >> painful. you know, you tweeted i think two days ago about how close nevada senate races have been historically. we're talking about race that's everyone from harry reed on had race that's hung on a handful of ballots. 40, 200, 300, not large numbers. >> it's reely possible. it's a great question. we had really close senate races here. i covered the harry reid race in 1998 that was just decided by 400 votes after a recount. we could get into that territory. it's still lal hard to tell,
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alex. well, we'll know in a couple more days. just how close this is. but i would not be surprised if it ends up being that close. katherine cortez-masto has to maintain that edge. and they have tebz of thousands of ballots left. there are going to be results released to night and that will tell us something. >> we're becoming experts in the various ballot detailed data dumps. and the behaviors of voter as they vote on election day, at drop boxes, at their presincts.
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ceo of the nevada independents, great to talk you to. thank you for your time tonight. up next, we have a look at how pennsylvania senator elect john fetterman beat the odds to flip that seat in the keystone state from red to blue. one of the lead strategists from that winning campaign joins us live to talk about what went down, how they did it on set next. w they did it on set next
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the position built that democrats may hold on to the upper chamber. the reason democrats are even in this position to begin with is because of john fetterman's win in pennsylvania on tuesday night. he clipped a senate seat that republicans held on to for more than a decade. fetterman beat the odds in a very tight race against celebrity doctor oz who poured millions of his own money into the campaign and backed by donald trump. fetterman managed to do all that while recovering from a stroke he suffered seven months before election day. but fetterman's campaign was as unique as the circumstances. beyond the messaging and means, there was fetterman himself who addressed his own challenges as a central part of that campaign. he talked about the struggles with speech and auditory processing delays that resulted from stroke. and he talked about those things as he made a promise that he would fight for anyone who quote
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got knocked down and had to get back up. joining us now is rebecca cats, senior adviser to pennsylvania's newest senator john fetterman. she is also democratic strategist. rebecca, thank you for joining me. i know you love to hear senator fetterman. >> it's still new. i love it. >> talk to me about how you grappled with this health event that soon to be senator elect fetterman had. and i guess i would just focus on the decision to put him on the debate stage. a lot of people's minds that was a controversial move. but it's not one that cost him by the election by any stretch. >> think about what got us here. it was john fetterman. it was being himself, being authentic. we ran a campaign that really played to those strengths. he is from pennsylvania. he is for pennsylvania. he gets regular people. so when we have -- when we had the discussion about the debate, it was about showing people what he's going through. you know, when he was having a stroke -- when he had his stroke and had to recover, he had to
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recover in public. sfwh yeah. >> that is not an easy thing to do. and so he started talking about that more. you know? and he would say at rallies, has anyone had a stroke? woefrn raise their hand. people understood that he was going through something and he was going to get better. and there is a humanitarian there that i think a the lot of the coverage completely missed. >> yeah. >> and the authenticity and the sort of solidity of fetterman through all of it. did he ever doubt that he should be going public with this? i just wonder how convinced he was. he's so vulnerable to be out there healing from something like this and running a high stakes senate campaign. >> i would say it was not fun. it was a very hard time to try to recover that way. but he knew he was getting better. and so went out there and he gave it his best shot. and as you said, he said when he get knocked down, get back up. that's what he did.
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>> did you ever worry as a campaign? there was a moment writ seemed -- where it seemed like it was not going to get better. >> they unloaded $100 million in attack ads. the theory of the case is not to build oz up but to tear john down, right? and pennsylvanians saw through. that they saw that he was -- that john was one of them and oz is from new jersey. you know, you can laugh. we can talk about all summer about the jersey shore and all the things that we d but tend of the day, people knew that oz was from new jersey and john was from pennsylvania. they voted. that was the number one issue. oz isn't from here. >> he is 100% fetterman. it is not just the authenticity, too. i think his election is heartening for people across the country because it was an exercise in empathy for a the lot of people. the idea that you would kind of forgive someone for not being operative in 100%. you knew they could get better and you believed in them. >> people also -- john is very
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smart. he is very funny. he connected with folks. >> yeah. >> and that comes across. >> i just have one more question. is he going to wear a suit and tie? does he have to? >> john has a suit. let's be very clear about. that he has a suit. he wore when he presided over the senate. he'll wear more of them. >> more suits? >> he'll buy more suits. i'm just putting it out there. >> does that mean with shorts? >> i mean, he will wear shorts as much as he k but when he has to wear a suit, he'll wear a suit. >> this is the most controversial thing eyes going to grapple with in the coming months. democratic strategist rebecca katz, adviser to the fetterman campaign, congratulations. very hard fought battle. that does it for us. we'll see you again tomorrow. "way too early" is coming up next. tomorrow "way too early" is coming up next
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