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it's smarter, it's better, it will change your life forever. good evening. we begin "the reidout" tonight with a battle for control of the house and senate. believe it or not, it's still not over. first, happy veterans day to the millions of u.s. veterans and their families, those who fought so hard and sacrificed so much to protect our freedom and democracy. >> on this day, let's also not forget the republican senators who overwhelmingly voted against a bill that would have aided veterans impacted by burn pits and other toxic chemicals and who celebrated blocking the bill by fist bumping on the senate floor earlier this year. is that you, ted cruz? the same ted cruz who today took a moment on musky mess twitter to take those who served? we see you. and it's not really a digression, because fighting for freedom also occurs at the
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ballot box. by voting in divisive elections that will determine who controls gres. as of this hour, control of the senate depends on three states. the georgia senate race will go to a run-off in december. and all eyes are on arizona and nevada. where the still to be called senate races will be determine which party controls the chamber. in arizona, democratic incumbent mark kelly leads trump candidate blake masters by more than five percentage points with 80% of the vote counted. in nevada, democratic senator catherine cortez masto is getting closer to republican adam laxalt. at for the house, there are a handful of seats undecided including lauren boebert's in colorado. she remains in a tight race against adam frisch. the balance of power in congress is yet to be decided but we are on the verge of potentially seeing is biden and his democrats making history. with a first term president's
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party either retaining the house or keeping losses to a bare minimum. just for context, bill clinton's democrats lost 54 house seats in 1994. barack obama's democrats lost 63 house seats in 2010, and donald trump's republicans lost 40 seats in the house in 2018. on average, since 1934, the president's party loses four senate seats and 28 house seats in the midterm elections. and remember, remember all that fake outrage by the republicans over inflation, inflation, inflation? "the new york times" reports that only three times since the first congressional elections after world war ii has inflation been as high as it was heading into a national vote, in 1974, 1978, and in 1980. and in all three of those cases, the party of the incumbent president lost between 15 and 48 seats in the house.
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biden is poised to have the best midterms of any president in 20 years. but even as we wait for the numbers to tell the full story, trump die-hards are facing the unnerving political reality that maga has crumbled. including his ever faithful side kick, lindsey graham, who remember this, he tweeted in 2016, if we nominate trump, we will get destroyed. and we will deserve it. no truer words. republicans are reaping the consequences of taking the knee to the man who couldn't make casinos work in new jersey. as trump rages over the red tinkle, trump, it turns out, was their undoing. his big lie and his boosting of election denying candidates who sought to eradicate voting rights was their problem, but it wasn't just trump. the midterm election results are a striking rebuke of the supreme court for ending the constitutional right to an abortion. the flurry of post-roe victories
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only proves it. even in rudy red kentucky, because here is the thing. democracy matters to american voters. women's rights and freedom matter. and yet, the foot soldiers of real life gilead still haven't received the memo. with justice samuel alito receiving a standing ovation at the federalist society gala, by conservatives applauding his decision as if it didn't just wreck the midterms. it's as if they simply don't have a clue about most of america. and are completely in their right wing religious extremist bubble and totally out of touch with this country, which turned out to actually be a good thing for democracy. and joining me now is steve kornacki at the big board. i want you to go straight to the two places you know i'm going to ask you to go, nevada and arizona. do we have numbers? >> literally in the last ten seconds, we just got new numbers. if you give me a second, i'm staring at the clark county board of elections website and
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i'm going to tell you exactly what we just got out of clark county in nevada. catherine cortez masto just picked up -- let's put it on the board here, see if it's in. these are the new numbers from clark county. let's tell you what literally just happened. this is the biggest county in nevada, 70% of the vote from nevada is from clark county. so catherine cortez masto in this new batch that we just picked up, got 17,150 additional votes. that new number, this is her total in clark county. and her republican opponent, adam laxalt, just picked up -- let me see it here. 8,000 -- let's see here, about
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9,000 votes. it's about 17,000 to 9,000. that's what just came out of clark county. so again, this continues that trend. these are ballots that were dropped off in drop boxes by voters on election day. we knew that this is -- i'm trying to think, the press conference, i think this is more in fact than officials in clark county indicated would be coming out. i think at their press conference today, they suggested about 15,000 votes would be released tonight. this is 26,000 coming out of clark county. this is more than we were expecting. and cortez masto picks up 8,000 votes. so what that does to the state-wide tally, yeah, it almost erases adam laxalt's lead state-wide. down to just 798 votes.
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one tenth of one point. i think it's very significant because, again, two things are very significant about what we just got out of clark county. number one is just the fact that cortez masto is winning the ballots by the margin that she won them by. because that's one of the questions there. that's almost two to one. she's getting more than 60% of that new vote that just dropped. we have been saying she needs to be in the high 50s, over 60 of the votes coming out of clark county, to be on pace to catch laxalt state-wide. there were some questions about these ballots dropped off in drop boxes on election day, if they might be a little les democratic friendly, a little more republican friendly than the more recent updates we have been getting out of clark county. this tells us they're just as democratic, at least so far. that batch we just got is as democratic as the votes we have been seeing from clark county over the last couple nights. so that's significant because it means cortez is still getting votes at a clip that she needs to get them at to catch laxalt. the second thing that's
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significant is, clark county officials told us today that there were 50,000 ballots left to be counted in clark county. that's half of them. in other words, that's basically half right there. you have another batch of 24,000 still to come. and if they look just like that, she would pick up another -- she would net another 8,000 votes. so again, you go back to that state-wide margin, it was sitting at just under 9,000 before we got that update from clark, that update just came in. it brings her to 798 votes behind. as i say, there are, according to clark officials, they said 50,000 earlier today. that is 26,000 we just got. there should be about 24,000 left. if masto continues to win them at the pace she just won that last batch by, she's going to pull ahead there. she would pull ahead there by about 7,000 votes and change. and on top of that, we have coming -- this clark update, i should tell you, came a little
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earlier, and by a little, i mean a lot earlier than officials were suggesting it would come. so it kind of caught me off guard as you were throwing to me here. but we also have been told, there are indications from washoe county where reno is that around 11:00 p.m. eastern tonight, 20,000 more votes are going to be released from there. and again, the same thing obtains. if these are from reno, from washoe, if they continue to be democratic friendly and last night's batch, there was for cortez masto. that's another big batch of votes where she could gain further ground. we're in a situation, that is probably based on the way they have been doing things, although i'll look into this as soon as i get off the air, that's probably the lone batch from clark county tonight. that's more than we were expecting to come out of clark county tonight. and we are, as i said, expecting later tonight 20,000 to come out of washoe county. last night, we had a big batch come from washoe county, and
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cortez masto was getting 61% of them. if she's getting anything like that tonight, then she will move into the lead. she'll move into the lead state-wide by several,thousand votes. then what you would have is another 24,000 vote to come from clark where every indication is masto is going to do very well because again, she just continued in that last batch to get a very high percentage of the vote. and then you would also have on top of that, probably about 7,000 or so provisional ballots in clark county. those will be counted next week. we expect those to be democratic friendly as wem. then there's also a certain number, i think it's about 9,000 or so, ballots that may need to be cured. in other words, they were mailed in, there's a signature verification issue. county officials are reaching out to encouraging voters to come back in, get the ballot counted. it's another potential pool of votes there. i think this is very big development because there are
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some votes left in the red rural areas of nevada. there are some left, but if masto builds a lead here, you know, again, if she moves this thing up to 8,000, 10,000 plus, i don't think there are enough votes in the rural area for laxalt to overcome that. i think that was a very significant development that literally just happened in the last few minutes. and again, she's now within 798. she has the opportunity to take the lead state-wide with what we expect to be a release of votes from washoe county later tonight. and the significance of this is that if masto does in fact catch laxalt and win this race, all democrats would then need is for mark kelly, currently leading by 5.5 points and 115,000 votes, to hold on and win this arizona senate race, and democrats would have their senate majority. and at 10:00 p.m. tonight, we're expecting 80,000 votes to be released from maricopa county,
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and critically, those 80,000 votes we're expecting at 10:00 p.m. eastern tonight from mare acopy will include something we have been hyping for the last couple days. that is the same-day drop off -- the ballots that were dropped off in person on election day. republicans believe, they're banking on that being a hugely republican vote. we're going to find out. i think potentially tonight at 10:00 p.m., if those votes are republican enough for masters to have any chance of catching kelly. so that could be an extremely significant update at 10:00 p.m. tonight. as i said, 10:00 p.m. tonight, that, and we're expecting around 11:00 to hear from washoe county. it is possible, in other words, that by 11:00 tonight, democrats will have the lead state-wide in nevada and you will see results coming out of maricopa county that indicate blake masters has an almost impossible task of catching mark kelly. it's possible that's where we could be in the next few hours. >> look at how things change when you start counting more
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votes. steve kornacki, the best in the business. thank you very much. appreciate you. let's bring in tom nichols, staff writer for the atlantic where he writes the atlantic daily, and piece field newsletter, and victor xi, a 2020 biden delegate. i want to start with you on what you just heard, tom, because here is where we start to look at opportunity cost. in the state of arizona, 78% of the people who voted, voted early by mail. that's the way most people voted. 22% of people voted on election day. which means that republicans made an affirmative choice because donald trump told them to, to give up the idea of voting by mail to make it an anathema to their voters and have to rely and put it all on voting the day of the election. which means that just for me, the way that campaigns look at this in general, is you can assume that the votes that come
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in late, that the votes that are counted after election day, that the absentee votes, that the cured, the votes that need to be cured, that the votes that are provisional, are going to lean democratic. it's just a logical assumption because they created this reality. what do you make of this? because there seemed to be hoisted on their petard. >> this is what happens when somebody like donald trump doesn't understand anything about elections or how they work. and he just kind of goes with what you tell him. he repeats it at rallies and then makes that -- >> your audio, we're having trouble with your audio. let's try to fix tom's audio. let's hold on real quick. let me play for you while we're trying to work on the audio, this is the maricopa county board of supervisors chair, because kari lake has been making a lot of inflammatory claims about the amount of time that it's taking to count in
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arizona. so we talked about nevada earlier, but now we're talking arizona again. here, she had said some pretty bizarre things which is kind of what she does. this was the response of the maricopa county board of supervisors about how long it's taking to count the votes. >> to see national networks out there and their hosts saying not being truthful about why it's taking this period of time, that's frustrating to these people back here who are doing an incredible job working through veterans day weekend, and then to have that spread out there nationally, to raise -- yeah, i'm going to stand up for my state. i am going to stand up for my state. maybe not everyone here is, but i am. we're doing things the right way. and i appreciate that you're all here. but we're not doing anything wrong at all. and that someone from here would suggest that we are doing something wrong, that's frustrating. >> all right, and we're going to come back to tom in a minute.
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i want to bring in victor here because i think there are two buckets of information that are important for these elections. one is that republicans, there was an opportunity to taking the knee to donald trump and doing everything he says. he lucked into the presidency because he was famous. the second thing is that i think it's not just trump. and that i think that with all of the young voters, these numbers, this is from my director here, 63/35 was the break of 18 to 29-year-old voters. it was catastrophic for republicans. even 30 to 44-year-old voters went 51/47. they were really counting only on voters over 45. so it's not just the fact that they are telling people not to use drop boxes and not to vote by mail. but they're also telling voters that the most important thing is to be mean to trans kids and not let them play sports. the most important thing is to rip the right to get contraception and abortion away from women, and that owning the
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libs is actually the most important thing. clearly, that didn't work with young voters. >> clearly it didn't. you're exactly right, joy. i want to first of all address the video we just saw. i think it's becoming increasingly clear from the republican party that they have no respect for democracy at all. for these poll workers who sacrifice so much to do what they do, to protect and defend democracy, they should be singing all our praises. we should be commending them on all levels. the republicans are denigrating them and it's sad to see. on the young voter front, i think it's particularly interesting and we're talking about nevada before, one of the things i am paying close attention to is that vote among young people in nevada. some of the early voting and mail-in ballot data so far suggests that over two-thirds of young people chose democrats in the early vote and mail-in ballots, category exit polling also suggests that, so i think no matter what happens, if democrats win nevada and arizona in particular, i think it's going to be key because of young
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people. and the way that we turned out to vote, and just like you said, this election was an election that we saw historic number of young people go out there and make their voices heard because we saw this republican party that was willing to do everything it would do to basically denigrate our lives and identities starting with abortion, going all the way forward with things like don't say gay bills, restricting what can be taught in classrooms. i think this election was really important for how young people showed up in the ballot boxes. >> i think we have your audio fixed, tom. this is an election republicans told us was about inflation, but then their rhetoric was all about what you just heard victor talk about. it was about critical race theory, you know, trans kids. they weren't even talking about solutions to the thing they said was the most important. it was just the sult comedy. then it turns out that young voters were not interested in insult comedy, and trump, who they're still bowing down to, has spent the last couple days insulting people, including asian americans, by trying to
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take a shot at glenn youngkin. that's what he still thinks they should do. your thoughts. >> none of the republicans were running on the issue that they were trying to bait democrats into running on. what they wanted was for democrats to get out and pre-emptively apologize for the economy and for gas prices and for inflation, when in fact the republicans were running on taking power so there are never free elections again. particularly in 2024. i think it's really heartening, despite so many pundits who told joe biden to take that bait and told the democrats to take that bait, and i'm happy to say i was not one of them, but the president, i think, the guy has been in politics a long time. he knew the voters better than anybody else, and he made that to say this is about democracy. one thing that i think is really important to note when all the numbers are flying around, in arizona, the biggest vote for a
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democrat was for the secretary of state. >> yes. >> interesting to see that voters have taken seriously that secretaries of state, state legislatures, they flipped the house of representatives in pennsylvania. that's a big deal. and it shows you that voters were paying attention. that american voters. god bless them, because i was starting to lose my faith. i admit it, i was having those dark moments. but i think american voters said, yeah, inflation sucks. gas is expensive. but i am not going to overthrow constitutional order just because gas is expensive. and you're seeing that all across the country, with secretaries of state, legislative elections and so on. >> american voters are pretty smart. they understand inflation is a global issue and having hunter biden hearings and owning the libs ain't going to do nng about it. and young voters, we're going to have you back on, but warn your younger voters, now that they
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have seen those numbers, they're going to come after young voters. they went after black people, they're coming at every way young people vote. watch this space, as the great rachel maddow would say. >> up next on "the reidout," the road ahead for democrats after they triumph in midterm elections, and lindsey graham gets all misty eyed as he defends his new friend, herschel walker. "the reidout" continues after this. kevin, where are you?! kevin?!?!?.... hey, what's going on? i'm right here! i was busy cashbacking for the holidays with chase freedom unlimited. you know i can't believe you lost another kevin. it's a holiday tradition! earn big time with chase freedom unlimited. ♪ ♪
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and i don't know what the heck you're talking about. this week's midterm elections are far from over, with the possibility that the democrats could break all precedent and not only hold both chambers of gres but even add a seat in the senate. while we await the final results, no one can dispute the democrats overperformed expectations turning the so-called red wave that republicans and some in media promised maga voters into more
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of a red wheeze. here to discuss how they pulled it off and what it means going forward is the chair of the democratic national committee, jaime harrison. what did y'all do right? >> well, joy, part of it is a return to the 57 state and territory strategy. the dnc put $90 million on the ground in our coordinated campaigns across the country, and in the end, i think that paid dividends because we were able to put the boots on the ground to win these very, very close races. and just to give you -- to understand the context, in 2018, we put $30 million on the ground. so $90 million this cycle, and we were able to do that because of president biden and his commitment and vice president harris and their commitment to making sure we had the resources to invest in these races across the country. >> okay, so now, you know i love you, but we have to counter just one thing. this is a question i have,
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because when i saw how successful the fetterman campaign was, the shapiro campaign was, there were some really great campaigns on the ground. and the momentum democrats clearly had, which we have been talking about on this show since roe was overturned, which should have made this a much more open environment for democrats, there were a couple questions i have for you in terms of the outreach strategy. ron johnson still beat mandela barnes, and mandela barnes is a sitewide elected official. a 1% margin. north carolina, cheri beasley, 3.6%. the jd vance/tim ryan race might have been a tougher climb but that was also a winnable race. what i heard back from folks on the ground in those states and from florida is yes, there was money on the ground, and i'm not saying the dnc was responsible for it, but there was not enough money invested in turning out black voters, especially in wisconsin, where there seemed to not be a lot of movement among african americans and in north carolina and in florida.
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and definitely in the ohio race. was this a miss, not getting enough money on the ground, as you said was important, and not just by your group but by the dscc and others to get black voters out specifically? >> i push back on that because also in wisconsin, we did pick up the govern -- we kept the governor's mansion in wisconsin, also with the attorney general's race in wisconsin as well. and we picked up some congressional races in places like north carolina. part of the problem that we had in this election was the amount of dark money that flowed into these campaigns on the republican side that just overwhelmed our candidates. mandela, cheri, who i worked closely with both of them early on in these races, they outraised their republican opponents. we had more money on the ground than the republican opponents. but there was so much money by billionaires on the republican side that flooded the zone in terms of tv ads and all, and it
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drove up the negatives of many of our candidates. so we have to figure that out. and that's part of the reason why we got to get the john lewis voting rights bill done, to get this dark money out of politics because it really overwhelmed many of our candidates, and we're probably going to see that same type of dynamic happen in the run-off in georgia, but we're going to fight back against it because we're going to have a tight ground game. >> again, a quick response. here is your fellow south carolinian lindsey graham. >> they're trying to destroy herschel, to deter young men and women of color from being republicans. if they destroy herschel, it will deter people of color from wanting to be a conservative republican because you just have your life ruined. we cannot let that happen. >> you look near tears. your thoughts. >> it's really kind of ironic when he ran against a young african american man and darkened my skin in ads and everything else, listen, lindsey
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graham is a little unhinged and he's part of the extreme maga republicans we see right now, that are making people lose faith in this process. i wish lindsay would go back to the old lindsey graham. but this is what we see. this is what we see with donald trump and what we will see, and these candidates are lost with this extremism. right now, the american people want folks who are going to fight for them, who are going to help them and their families and communities. that's not what the republicans are giving them. that's what the democrats are doing right now. >> all right. jaime harrison, chairman of the dnc -- head of the dnc. thank you very much. >> coming up on "the reidout," why was the republican red wave narrative so completely wrong? and why did so many in media believe it? we'll discuss right after the break. yeah. i respect that. but that cough looks pretty bad. try this robitussin honey. the real honey you love, plus the powerful cough relief you need. mind if i root through your trash? robitussin.
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now, one thing we can say for certain about the midterm elections, this narrative, the one about a red wave or a red tsunami completely fell apart. i'm not one to say i told you so, but we kind of did tell you so. but of course, it wasn't just the mainstream media buying the line from republicans and their pollsters. it was unsurprisingly in heavy rotation in the right wing echo chambers in fox media and social media because republican operatives put it there. >> are we looking at one of the biggest red waves in american history? >> we could see things happen in america we haven't seen in decades with a historic red wave.
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>> our predictions of a red wave are accurate. >> i ink the the red wave that's coming is going to be like the elevator doors opening up in the shining. >> you're about to see a red wave that makes day after tomorrow look like nothing. >> remember that deep impact disaster movie. that's the red wave tsunami that will come ashore. >> is it going to be a red wave, a red tsunami. i think it's a red hurricane. >> i'm feeling red wave. >> if there's not a red wave, i'll dance. how about that? >> a red wave, tsunami. joining me, simon rosenberg, president of the new democrat network, and fernand amandi, msnbc political analyst. simon, i'm going to throw to you to say i told you so. >> we have been writing over the last few months was that maybe the red wave is coming, but it's not here yet. we didn't see it in the house specials in the spring and summer. in the summer and fall. we didn't see it in kansas, we didn't see it in the voter reg
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numbers. we didn't see it in the early vote. i think what happened is the buy-in on the red wave obscured for many commentators what was really happening in the election. we were the motivated party. we were the ones who were bringing it again and again. the republicans were struggling. i have now become pretty convinced one reason republicans pushed it so hard is they knew underneath that were not doing nearly as well as they thought, and they tried to bs their way through all this. which is part of what happens in a party of the big lie. >> yeah, and fernand, i'm going to put up what you were tweeting earlier today. you said the most underreported story is that democrats had a 4 million vote lead over republicans in early vote. that was something you put up before. i think that was the thing, right? is that you're a data guy. the data did not match the story line. that's what was off key for me the whole time. >> you know, it didn't, joy. and simon is exactly right. he and i together were looking at polling in the summer, we saw
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first the phenomenon of the decoupling, which simon accurately called out and said look, biden's approval rating wasn't impacting how support for democratic candidates were, and then with the early vote numbers, it was crystal clear. you heard simon say it earlier. not only were the democrats not facing a red wave. their amount of support was growing. joy, i think what you have to look at here is, this was a deliberate effort to gaslight america on this phenomenon of the red wave, the red hurricane, the red apocalypse, whatever red story line was out there, but when you think about the fact that this election is actually going to come down to maybe only a couple seats to control the house, that could very well have impacted democrats' controlling the house had the media and many unfortunately in my profession, whether wittingly or unwittingly bought into that operation to gaslight america. so i think there's some questions going forward, and for '24, that that don't hap again. >> that's the reason we're doing this segment, honestly.
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we do this every two years but next one is the big one, the presidential election in which you have now election deniers, they have a game plan of the way they want to take the next election regardless of the vote. and you had these polling averages that had things like trafalgar and all these other republican pollsters in them, and you talked about how there was a big disconnect between what they said was going to happen, look at that, r-2.99. r, 0.8 forfivethirtyeight but it turned out democrats plus 4. >> the truth is in the last few weeks, not only was the early vote kind of incredible for us and showing incredible intensity and republicans struggling. the nonpartisan polls were also really good for us. and had us up in places like arizona, georgia, and pennsylvania, and also had us in the last week, the polling averages had us up by 1.4% in the nonpartisan polls. yet all the stories were red
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wave. meanwhile we're up in the national polls, up in the key states where you couldn't find the red wave in those polls. you couldn't find it in the early vote. what i think, to me, part of the reason i think republicans pushed this so hard is because the reality that democrats could do really well in this election because of abortion was just something they couldn't handle. it's just something that for a party that had striven for 50 years to have finally gotten rid of roe, for there to be this popular uprising that came from what they did, they have to create another set of stories that obscured what was really happening which was there was an uprising against their extremism, so they created in part, you know, the red wave narrative, which sort of said, well, it wasn't democrats who are intense. it's republicans who. it's not women who care about abortion, they care about inflation. an unbelievable effort to gaslight about what was happening in the election, and it's true. the disappointing part of this is so many people, credible, serious people in the media, fell for it.
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and we didn't see it in the data. that's why we continued to challenge it all the way up to election day. remember, joy, we're now three days after the election. and the red wave still hasn't come. >> it still hasn't come. look, to the point where you had tom bevan from real clear politics trying to mock simon and me saying we were selling hopium. the hopium, it seems to me, was they hoped women would get over losing their bodily autonomy. the idea you could strip half of the population of their fundamental rights to own themselves and say they'll get over it because the price of milk is high, to me seemed absurd always. >> yeah, the hopium was the idea that abortion had faded as an issue in the weeks before the election, and the price of gas trumped control over a woman's body, as you said. look, joy, i want to make sure america understands, and credit to you and simon and nbc, by the way. nbc was very accurate, the nbc poll all the way to the end was on the money. as simon said correctly, and
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he's always maintained, those independent polls had it right. it is important that we don't allow this gaslighting to happen again in the future. >> absolutely. and i'll give tom credit because he was also another person who was saying abortion is the issue. and i believe the data guys like my guys here that are on the tv with me. simon rosenberg and fernand amandi. this is who i call when i want to know what happens. >> up next, the much anticipated black panther wakanda forever opens in movie theaters today. i recently had a chance to speak with queen rumaunda herself, the amazing, gorgeous angela bassett about the movie and the loss of the late great chadwick boseman. you do not want to miss it. it's next. t. i earn 5% cash back on travel purchased through chase with chase freedom unlimited. i earn 5% on our cabin. hello cashback! hello, kevin hart! earn big time with chase freedom unlimited with no annual fee. how do you cashback? chase. make more of what's yours.
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mother. >> there was another attack on one of our outreach facilities. proof of the involvement of a member state is being uploaded to your mobile devices as we speak. and as for the identity of the attacker -- >> we ready. long live wakanda. joining me now is the one and only gorgeous, incredible, regal angela bassett who plays queen ramanda is wakanda forever. it's so wonderful to talk with you. >> a pleasure to be here with you, joy. >> thank you. i'm so excited about this film. i know everyone is so excited
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about it, from the sound track dropped by rihanna to seeing you in that gorgeous regal outfit. but i think we're all prepared to go in there and cry a lot. because of the absence that's so glaring in this film. i just want you to talk for a moment about doing this film and doing it with that loss that you all had to endure. >> oh, yes. absolutely. you know, we all have such a deep love and respect for chadwick. and for what he meant to us individually, what he meant to this film, you know, the way he >> and that is sullivan respect and energy that we brought to wakanda forever. it is monumental.
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every day on the set, there were tears all over the place to watch yourself and keep from slipping, you know, there were so many tears. but we had each other. and we gathered together before we even begin to shirt the first frame, to just remember him, his brilliance, his love, his tenacity, and we pay homage to him on screen in such a beautiful and respectful, incredible way. i am very proud of that. very proud of the heart, soul, and caring of the filmmakers. and we were behind this strong man, he stands a strong women, and we carry, we drive this film, we carry it. it is exhilarating. >> and you know, that is one of the most beautiful things about the first film and what emerged from it. just watching those of you who
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were in the film interact with each other. you were clearly a family, which was one of the most beautiful things about it. but what you just said is the next thing i want to talk to you about. because this is a genre, a sort of theme of empowerment of women. and the women in wakanda are the warriors, the women are the heart of soul and the kingdom. so, i am just excited to see what is the evolution of the women of wakanda, what are we going to see from them in this film? >> well, the loss of king and sun is there, you know. we meet it head on in the very beginning. and the women, they have to step in as mother in wake of the great loss of her brother. she has to step up to protect, and secure a nation, and loss of the king, and also to just sure the hearts and souls of the people. and we have to carry on, we have to carry on anyway.
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you know, she and her brother were extremely close. but you have to, i guess, meet this grief, and find a way to process it. so, we see that happening with the character. the general, you know, she fought by his side, and for him, and they're charming banter between one another. so it is, even though she is a warrior, she is a warrior with a big heart, and we sense her loss. and what does his love, the love of his life, and how she manages that. so, in a different way. we all have our different ways of dealing with it, but we are there in our time of need, we are there for each other. >> and you know, this film is coming out at a time that it's really difficult in this
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country, to say the least. difficult in many ways, particularly for women. with a loss of so many of our fundamental rights, particularly for people of color. i think they feel really, sort of, targeted by the politics that we are seeing coming out of one side of our political spectrum. i want to show you really quickly something that you said, this was at the glamour woman of the year awards where he received a lifetime achievement award. i want to play you for. this is what you said when you played your award. >> i am courageous. we are underestimated. like rosa parks. we are fearless. like betsy colin. we are resilient like tina turner. the legacies of these women, and so many more are what keep me going. >> okay, i'm going to resist
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the urge to comment on that fabulous, gorgeous dress, and just ask you, give us -- we need some encouragement from the queen mother. give us some encouragement. what keeps you grounded and centered at times when i think a lot of women do feel like their strength is faltering. what keeps you going? you mentioned your heroes, but what else can you give us, just a word, we need a word from you. >> oh lord. absolutely, be a person of faith, you know. i look to the hills from which commit my strength. that is first and foremost. and i look to the side, to each side, and in front of me, and to the strength of women who are -- whose feet are on the ground, just like mine, who do not, you know, walk on air, but who have struggles. we all do, and that is what makes us richer.
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and more complex, and it gives us strength. so each of those women that i mentioned, you know, they went through things. they went through things, they gave a lot of themselves for the struggle. and i just don't take their sacrifices in vain. and whatever it is you do, you know, wherever it is you are, you can make an impact. you can make a difference, be it big, or be it small. and everything, everything positive, pushes it forward. we need you. we need each of us. >> the great angela bass said, queen, mother ramonda of wakanda. wakanda forever, my sister. thank you so much for being here. you are brilliant, we love you, thank you so much. >> thank you, pleasure to be here. >> behold a real life queen. that is tonight's read out.
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