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election night four. with control of the u.s. senate and the balance democrats got some new good news usher time. the state of nevada released 26,000 more ballots before we came on air tonight. democratic senator katherine cortez masto is now less than 1000 votes behind her republican challenger, adam laxalt. we are expecting more ballots later tonight from a part of nevada that is so far been full of good news for catherine cortez masto. but at this moment, that race is still too close to call. in the last few minutes, nbc news has projected result and no bad's race for governor. the incumbent democrat steve sisolak has lost his reelection bid to republican joe lombardo. a few minutes ago, governor sisolak conceded that race.

over an arizona senate race which is still too early to call, democratic senator mark kelly is ahead of his republican challenger blake masters by about 150,000 votes. but there is still quite a bit of vote and standing. there we are expecting election officials in maricopa county to release a big bunch of votes later this evening. votes which could be decisive. we will get the latest on all of this from our friend steve kornacki in just a few moments. now, if all of this makes you anxious, you should see how anxious this is making the heads of the republican party. today, politico obtained a letter that is reportedly being circulated by republican senator ron johnson of wisconsin and senator mike lee of utah, and senator ron scott of florida. and scott is key here because he's the chairman of the national republican senatorial committee. this group of senators is circulating a letter pushing to delay elections for republican leadership positions.

quote, we are all disappointed that a red wave failed to materialize. we have to have serious discussions within our conference as to why and what we can do to improve our chances in 2024. that is right, senate republicans are so upset that they might still be in the minority next year that they might try to dethrone mitch mcconnell. those internal leadership elections are currently set to happen on wednesday morning. and for context, since 2007, mitch mcconnell has always won those elections with the full support of his republican conference. now, senators johnson, lee, and scott, plus senators marco rubio, cynthia leung is, ted cruz, and josh hawley, they are all calling for that leadership election to be delayed. senator hawley even said he will vote against mcconnell as a leader and missouri's new senator-elect, eric schmidt has said that senate gop needs new leadership. and tonight, moments ago, republican arizona senate candidate, blake masters, had this to say.

>> you know what else is incompetent, tucker? the establishment. the people who control the purse strings. a senate leadership fund, mitch mcconnell, mcconnell decided to spend millions of dollars attacking a fellow republican in alaska instead of helping me defeat senator mark kelly. he chose to spend money in arizona, this race would be over. we'd be in the senate majority right now. my message to the people of america, my message actually to my -- republican senators. hopefully my future colleagues, let's not vote mitch mcconnell into leadership. he doesn't deserve to be majority leader, or minority leader. you have the choice, you can stand with your constituents and stand with americans or you can stand for mitch mcconnell. >> so there is that. republican leadership is so upset about all of this that they may and mitch mcconnell's 15-year reign over the senate. and then there's this. on a conference call with republican senate leadership yesterday, senator lindsey graham went so far to suggest fraud in nevada if republican

adam laxalt doesn't win the senate race there. quote, there's no mathematical way laxalt loses. graham said. if he does, then it's a lie. sitting senator planting seeds of distrust in our election system, but only if the guy from his party loses. we see what you're doing there, senator graham. like i said, as anxious as you may be, it looks like republican leadership is even more so. joining us now is the great steve kornacki at the great big board. steve, i understand that we still have some new voting coming in from arizona. what can you tell us about that? >> huma county, a tucson area, second biggest county in the. say we have another batch of 24,000 votes out there. mark kelly basically winds that batch of votes by a 2 to 1 margin. and so that extends his lead statewide. you can see this over blake masters, nearly over 120,000 votes. nearly six points as well. six percentage points. so i think that really raises the stakes for what we are

expecting, a little bit less than now. sometime around 10 pm eastern hour. maricopa county, is expected to release 80,000 more votes. 80,000 votes is the expected size of the release. but what is more significant about what is coming out of maricopa county tonight, is that finally, for the first-time, this very specific type of ballot, this type of boat that we've been talking about, if you've been following the last few days, we're finally gonna get a look at. and that's the votes that were dropped off in person on election day at polling places because there's been a question here -- we've been seeing mark kelly run up the lead here in a previous maricopa updates. because what they've been tabulating so far as the remaining early vote. ballots that arrived saturday, sunday, monday. now we are talking about something different. ballots were physically brought to the polls by voters on election day. republicans believe this is a

very republican friendly set of votes unlike the early votes that have helped kelly extend this lead. what blake masters is going to need and what republicans are banking on is -- it's an extremely friendly batch of votes. and maricopa county has a total of 290,000 of them, if we don't -- we will not get all 290,000 tonight. but a big chunk of the 80,000 are gonna get tonight are going to be those same drop of ballots. and we are going to get a sense whether that is an extremely republican friendly batch of votes or if it's something else. if it's extremely friendly to the republicans, then masters could have a chance of catching kelly. if it's anything else, then kelly may have built a lead here that masters just cannot surmount. so i think that is a critical update. it's coming again, we expect that in the 10 pm eastern hour here. by the way, keep in mind as well as critical to the governor's race because in the governor's race in arizona,

katie hobbs has a lead but her lead it is much smaller than mark kelly's. and if there is a strong republican bent or even a pronounced republican tilt to those late ballots, it may not be enough for blake masters in the senate race but it can certainly be enough for kari lake in the governor's race. so this update of maricopa now, i think the stage is set for a very revealing update their. >> meanwhile, in nevada, in the governor's race, we just called for republican joe lombardo. but here in the senate race in nevada, now adam laxalt's lead has extended about -- at the top of the hour, it was just under thousand. now it's just under 2000. laxalt still has -- there's still some scattered reports coming in from the red rural areas of nevada. so just get one of those. laxalt is able to extend the lead a little bit more. but what had happened before that was that we had about 26,000 votes reported out of clark county. clark county here. 70% of the votes of the state come out of clark county. they broke heavily, almost 2 to 1 for catherine cortez masto.

and there is still 24,000 votes remaining there in clark county. additionally, we expect tomorrow is when we're gonna see more from clark. meanwhile, we are also expecting 20,000 from the other population's sudden [inaudible] that's where we know it is. we are expecting -- to get about 20,000 votes here and again, last night around that time we got an update from washout county and cortez masto was winning by nearly 30 points. it's a chance here with this updated 11:00 for cortez masto, if it breaks for her decisively, as it has been begging for her decisively in these updates from washable, she could vote past adam laxalt and into the lead. and at that point, what would be left? as we, say they would still be 24,000 votes from clark county and we just got a sense earlier tonight how those votes are breaking. they seem to be breaking not just a little bit but dramatically in favor of katherine cortez masto. there will also be about 5700

provisional ballots that we expect to break democratic. and there are also ballots -- in clark county, that are going through the curing process for -- these were ballots that were sent in, and signature verification, is voters need to reach out, verify their identity, and in the ballot can be counted. so there are a couple of other votes in clark county. but the bottom line is, every update we're getting from clark county's only building -- is only helping cortez masto. and extended into tonight. so we are in a position, come 11:00 tonight, when we get an update from washout county tonight, and katherine cortez masto opens up a lead on the exit for the first time. and then you're just staring at the vast, vast majority of remaining votes being in clark county where the trend insist is established. there are still some to come in these rural pockets of the state. and you see it, when they do come, and laxalt can pick up a little bit. but they pale in scale compared

to what is left out of clark county. the bottom line is, we see the maricopa county update. we just got a another one of those rural updates in arizona. to uc, it can happen. there we will -- like masters can make up a little -- the bottom line is, we get a big and telling maricopa county update. probably a little bit less than an hour from. now if mark kelly does win arizona, and if katherine cortez masto does catch adam laxalt, it does win nevada, the democrats will win control of the senate. and that won't even involve the georgia runoff. the georgia runoff will just be to see if they can get a 54 seat. but that will give them 50 plus kamala harris as the tie breaker. if they get nevada and if they get arizona. >> two very critical updates happening this evening around ten-ish, 11-ish, we think. it could come earlier, it could come later. but you're looking at a moment where you could call the two remaining non runoff senate elections and know which one is

going to control the chamber. steve kornacki, my friend, stick around. we will check back in with you later this hour. thank you as always. i want to bring in now senator michael bennett, democrat of colorado who was just reelected to a new six year term. senator, congratulations. thank you for spending your first friday as a newly reelected incumbent with us on the show. i would love to get a sense of what you think the lessons are that are being learned by your republican counterparts in the upper chamber. it sounds like the very man who have sort of saw this, coming which is to say mitch mcconnell, who did not apparently very much like that the trump candidates who are on the ballot. but they were the ones who are at risk of being ousted in this moment. my question is, are republicans learning a lesson here? >> i think, alex, the lesson that i have learned is that the people of colorado and the american people want to turn

the page on donald trump chaos. there is a worry in the country and in my state that that is something that we're going to have to live with for the rest of our lives. and then we see the american people say no. we like the democratic president, and democratic congress that can deliver bipartisan results working with republicans and results for the american people who need to work on our own, as we did with health care and climate. so that i think is the fundamental lesson to sort of back and forth about the leadership in both the house and the senate. it's gonna be really interesting to see over the next few days how much -- how much that continues and how big an inflow wins donald trump is going to have in the outcome of these races. >> did you see this as a referendum on trump and trumpism? and i guess with that, it doesn't -- concurrently, it doesn't seem like republicans are necessarily understanding that in terms of how they choose their leadership. we're talking about --

>> you're right. i think it was a referendum on three things. one, trump and chaos. two, 40 years of an economy in this country that started when ronald reagan put in his trickle down economics that is now created a situation we have the worst income inequality that we've had in a century. where the worst country in the world, and we have the third highest childhood poverty rate which is why fought so hard for the child tax credit. that's just the beginning of what we should do. and a referendum on the first fundamental constitutional freedom they struck from the american people since reconstruction. those are the three things that work here and the national republicans have absolutely nothing to say about any one of those things. >> i want to know with the national democrats are going to do about it, at least one of those things. because president biden before these midterm said if you give me the majority in the senate, and not a 60 seat majority, if you give me a simple majority in the senate, we're gonna get

rid of the filibuster and we are gonna codify roe. if we're musto and kelly winning the races, and warnock is also in the race, but that's icing, effectively. is that is what is going to happen? codify woman's right to choose? >> i think we should get rid of the filibuster anyway because i don't think there's anywhere we're gonna compete with beijing senate -- where senators that represent 22% of the american people can have a veto on everything. but i absolutely believe one of the reasons we should do that is codified roe versus wade, a woman's right to choose at the national level. this is a fundamental civil right and i certainly would vote to do that and i think we can get 50 plus one of our colleagues to do it. >> you think that we are-- >> and john fetterman, for example. john fetterman said over and over again, during his election in pennsylvania, which i congratulate him for, that he would vote to change the rules and i know how reverend warnock

feels about that too. >> i'm sure the enthusiasm for getting rid of the filibuster increases the more democrats maintain majority rule. but given how closely divided -- and even if democrats win these three outstanding senate races, it's still a pretty slight majority. does it worry you at all that the senate control sort of his on razor's edge from election to election when you are talking about of getting rid of something like the filibuster? >> it worries me that all we can do is the best we can do and try to win as many seats as we can. i mean, these 50 senators, or 51 senators, which is what i think will happen by the time were done, this is going to be incredibly important to but the judiciary looks like in our country. for example. and it's really amazing that were this close to be able to declare victory. i do not want to do it prematurely but it's one of the reasons i'm staying up late

tonight because i think tonight might be the night we will be able to do that. and it's going to be really important to this two years of this biden presidency for us to have the senate majority, especially if we lose the house by two votes, which i'm not sure we will. but it sounds like that might be what happens. >> it is really an extraordinary moment, isn't it? to be sitting here, you know, a few days after monday. where the landscape looked entirely different for democrats, and now you may be on the precipice of once again having a majority ruling and the chamber. >> this was going to be a tidal wave, alex. of red ink all across the country. and i was saying, i want to see our state blinking blue before they decide the races on the east coast, because of where we vote here, we actually were able to do that. but it was an amazing night in colorado. the governor won by double digits. i won by double digits. we won races up and down the ballot. kerrville

is going to be the first latino congress person from colorado. and the story just goes on and on. it wasn't just a matter of survival. you look at the counties that we won, or did better in, red counties like el paso county, douglas county, colorado, we -- are merchants improved by double digits over where they have ever been. and i think that it is because of the economic message that we ran on out here which says that we are tired of living in an economy where all of the benefit goes to the people at the very top. we have to create an economy in this country that when it grows, it grows for everybody. not just the people at the very top. that is what colorado wants, and that is what, i think the democratic party has to help deliver. >> a matter of candidate quality, and policy quality that the democrats were delivering on. senator michael bennett, governor of colorado, thank you for your time tonight.

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>> we have just been talking about the senate, but when it comes to the house, nbc is projecting that republicans might take control of the lower chamber. but that protection is narrowing. yesterday we thought republicans might wind up with 221 seats, today the protectionist 220. that is a projection, of course, and it comes with a margin of error of

plus or minus seven seats. but to be clear, republicans thought that they could flip considerably more seats than we have been able to so far, including the seat and nevada's first congressional district which includes las vegas and is a big democratic stronghold. it is a district of texas. democrat let's state legislature. when they redrew the district has been more democratic votes across several districts, democrats were, shall we say, less than enthused. there may have been f bombs. republicans, meanwhile, we're quite happy with it. and they believed they had a real shot to take titus's seat, as well as the two others that were affected by the new plans. the political report rated titus'seat a toss-up. but in the end, in this unusual, insane midterm election, republicans failed. dina

titus'opponent lost. republicans have failed to flip any congressional district in the state of nevada. and tonight nbc has projected a winner for the third congressional district, susie lee, that is not an insignificant loss for the gop. it is a super pac, kate spent more on that one house race than they did in any other congressional district in the country. so, how did the vulnerable house democrats survive this tight reelection, and what does that pertain for potentially even tighter senate races in the very same state? joining us now is the newly reelected congresswoman, dina titus, democrat of nevada. congresswoman titus, thank you for being here tonight, congratulations on your win. i know that you are not happy about the redistricting. one of the f bombs might have been yours, according to reports. what happened, and how did it turn out in democrats favor, how do you read the effects of tuesday night? >> well, the people in district one proved that they want a fighter, and they know i am a

fighter, maybe indicated by some of my language that should have been more discreet. but we just worked very hard. they poured $9 million into my race with outside money. but we just went after it, and we told a story of what congress has accomplished the last two years. and we reminded people in nevada that we were the hardest hit back by covid, with the unemployment about 35%, and now we are the fastest recovering place in the country. and people understood that, and appreciated it, and we went after it, and we will do so again, because we are not through with the problems. >> i wonder, i actually want to talk to you about the covid effect on all of this. because the democratic candidate, in terms of the governor's race, it seems like governors have been punished, in a way, or we talk about split ticket, but it looks like some democrats at the gubernatorial level is having a hard time then congressional democrats. and i wonder if you think that is because of covid, and the fact that some of these governors had to oversee the closure of

local businesses, and take the hit to the state economy. is that why you are seeing different numbers in the same party for people in a gubernatorial race versus the congressional race? >> i think it is very likely. you cannot imagine how hard a decision it was for our governor to close down the strip. when our economy is so dependent on that income, where so many people are employed in tourism and travel business. to see the strip, you could drive down, it looked like the twilight zone. it closed down for several months. so i am sure that that has something to do with it. but if he hadn't done that, the recovery would have taken longer, it would have been harder. lives would have been lost, and it would have taken more of an effort to get people back into jobs, and children back into school. >> can you talk to me a little bit about the economic message? because there was a lot of cry about democrats and how they were going to talk about the economy, how they were gonna talk about inflation, you have a lot of working class folks

and nevada who, as you point out, took a hit when the casinos closed. how did democrats talk to them about what was going on in terms of inequality, in terms of rate wages, in terms of growth, and what was the convincing message there? >> i think the message was, and this is when i ran very strongly on, that we want to help the people who need it the most, not those who have the most. and that is why we went after big corporations, we went after executives of gas and pharmaceutical companies, we have just made the point that when they get a tax break, that trickles down, and it trickles down nearly as far as most of the working people in this district. >> where did you see abortion and all of this, how animating was that for your voters, how animating was that as an issue in nevada? there was a large immigrant population, how did that play out among your constituents? >> well, we wondered how it would play in the hispanic community. but hispanic women were very strongly opposed to doing away with roe v. wade.

and nevada is kind of a live and let live state. they didn't like government telling them what they can do with their own bodies. and the young people especially young women, they turned out in high numbers, because suddenly they realize that something they took for granted might be gone and they wanted to fight for it, just as we did 50 years ago. >> congresswoman dina titus of nevada, thank you for your time tonight, congratulations again on your win. maybe f bombs flow in a different direction next time. >> thank you. >> one of the biggest political machines in the state of nevada is probably the culinary workers union, also known as culinary. in many ways, the democrats successes inexplicably tied to the workers union, both in terms of mobilization, and now in terms of making sure each and every vote is counted. joining us now is secretary of the union. thank you so much for joining us tonight. i know culinary has been super involved in the mobilization effort. but now it

appears that you guys are involved in a really critical at postelection effort, and that is ballot carrying. for people who do not know what that is, and why that is important, could you explain? >> first of all, i would say thank you for having me here, alex. we saw the congresswoman dina titus, just admitted another clean victory, we had a clean sweep, and we are extremely proud of that. the idea of ballot caring is that when somebody males in a ballot, or drops off a ballot in the envelope, they may have forgot to sign the envelope, and there are other requirements that could have happened. there is an opportunity, the election department wants to make sure that those folks know that even though they think that they have voted, their ballot has not been counted. and our goal is to make sure that every single one of those ballots are counted.

>> when you talk about tearing the ballots, in years past, democrats have been very effective of carrying those ballots. are republicans getting better at those efforts as well in recent months and years? >> look, i can't really tell you that but i know in 2020, we knocked on 650,000 doors. in the middle of covid when no one else was on the door. this time around, we knew these midterm elections were going to be extremely close. we had to expand our walk program larger than we've ever done in the past. we have knocked on over 1 million doors during the mid term in the state of nevada, those were our goals, and we hit our goals. right now, we have close to 300 full-time canvassers, ballot carrying in las vegas and nevada. we are the largest ballot curing program in the state. same as the canvassing. no one hits the doors like we

do, no one hits the doors like culinary does. i want to see one thing, these are cleaners, food servers, cooks, working inside big hotels. they decided to take a leave of absence, leave house, or their jobs, they come out and agreed to work in our union canvas program. and they are doing it as a mission. they are out to protect their, union park the families, protect the communities. and they get the job done. we are extremely excited about the efforts and the victories that we've had in nevada so far. we think that nevada is making the difference in this country and it makes a difference in the ballot. >> as spent some time out in culinary headquarters and it's a formidable operation -- a lot of the question that we have at this point is who voted in this election? what are we going to see with the remaining ballots? i'm asking a broad question but i love, as specific of an answer as you can give.

but what did you see in terms of who was most motivated in this election? can you give me a profile in terms of the voters that you were knocking on the doors and what they were most animated in interested in? >> we have 60,000 members in las vegas that we represent. the majority of them are latino workers and people of color. when we knocked on the doors, the key really is workers talking to workers face to face at the doors. and we saw that workers were concerned about the economy, that was a number one issue. you saw it on the diagram you had up earlier. abortion came up, as congressman titus said, nevada workers don't want people telling them what to do and messing with the rights, the rights to vote, the woman's right over their bodies. but at the end of the day, it was the economy and for months now, our message has been that we don't have to take. it we can stand up to these

wall street land awards, these big oil companies that are going after working class workers, our neighbors. and this price gouging that's clearly going on, the profiteering going on right now. we can take this on and we take it on right here, right now. so when we had those conversations at the doors, we saw the voters wanted to stand up and fight back and there's a lot of talk about working class voters and whether they were going to turn out. what we say is that if you want to win working class voters, you have to talk to working class voters, and then you have to fight and deliver for working class voters. congressman stephen forsman, congresswoman susie lee, congresswoman dina titus and senator catherine cortez masto, who we think by the end of this will be victorious, we are clear on the messaging from the beginning that we have to have a strong working class economic message. coming out of this election, we

plan to press that issue. you've got to look at the fetterman victory in pennsylvania and the great race of tim ryan ran in ohio. and we think the democrats may have less -- for victories on the table. >> it sounds like a fundamental argument about fairness, and so far, the state of nevada, the democrats have done well with that. the tampa, george -- of nevada's culinary union movement, thank you, alex. >> thanks. >> still ahead, as we wait for the all-important batch of votes to come out of maricopa county, we turn our eyes to the house where democrats have a legitimate chance of holding on to power. it may be slim, but it's legitimate. the house of the house progressive caucus, congresswoman jayapal joins me shortly.

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midterms and control of the house is still far from certain. at this hour, more than two dozen house races are still on polled, but the nbc -- 220 seats, plus or minus seven seats. but plus or minus seven seats is mathematically darn interesting. and it begs the question, is there's still a path for democrats? and if so, how realistic is it?

for answers to these burning questions, let's turn to the good, the great steve kornacki. at the big board. steve, what is the latest on the house? >> we actually just did call a few races embassy did in the last hour in the democrats favor. here's one way to look at the. matt right, now there are 211 races that have been called for republicans. there are 203 that have been called for democrats or in california where they had those top two primaries and can have the same party running in the general election, there a couple of districts where it's democrat versus democrat. we're just gonna say for the sake of this those are democratic seats. it's 2:11, 203 at this point. that leaves 21 uncalled races right now. so to get to 218, the magic number for democrats is 15. if they can get 15 to 21, they will have a majority. the magic number for republicans is seven. they need seven of the 21 uncalled seats. let's take a look at where

those uncalled seats exactly are. here's your list. there's 20 on this page and there is one more, washington three, on this page. let's go back to the -- one thing that jumps right at you right, away ten basically half of the uncalled seats are in california. and we have set this the other, night if it ever came down to a district by district battle for house control, it could take a couple of weeks because that's how long the voting -- vote counting can take in california. if you look at this list from the standpoint of democrats trying to get that magic number of 15 of those 21, there are a number of them among you that a promising for you already. take for instance a second district of maine, jarred goldman, a democrat with a pretty sizable lead. maine, a -- he might have to go through a rank choice process to get. there but he certainly and democrats are gonna be feeling good about his position there. new mexico, to just about all of the vote. isn't the democrats are headed there. you can find plenty of seats like this here. you can see pretty realistically a path for democrats to get to that number to 15 that you just showed. how could they actually get those three extra to get into

the 2:18? where should you be looking for those? we should be looking to a district like this. the 22nd district. this is set of california. the central valley, david valley dale. he lost a seat in 2018, he got it back in 2020, about a third of the vote is in right now. he's ahead of his democratic challenger but there's a lot of vote to be counted still. and you see in california these late kind of wide swings as this week's long process sometimes the vote comes. and this is the kind of place where the democrats will have to leapfrog valadao. if democrats go from 215 just falling short to actually holding a majority, you need a district like this. maybe you need something like this and in dade you have a come back here, christy smith over marc orysia. this is a rematch from two years ago. this was the closest, one of the closest house races in the country two years ago. maybe in the 41st district of california can get calvert of the long serving republican, the district was change.

it made a little bit more democratic in the redistricting process. these are the kind of prices where democrats would have to pull off upsets, get a couple of those, when some of the others that we were showing you, and they could get up to 218 seats. the irony of all of this, alex, is if they do end up falling just short, let's say they get 215, that would be three seats short, where is the most damage done to democrats? in new york state. in new york state earlier this year, democrats, we have all the power, drew congressional lines that were designed to maximize democratic gains, minimize republican opportunities. that map got thrown out by court, redrawn, and on the new redrawn map, republicans ousted and picked up four democratic held seats just out of new york, including that of the chairman of the dccc john patrick maloney. the campaign committee that

organizes the entire democratic effort. incredibly irony, if -- incredible performance in this election. this could amount to it if they come a few seats short. and it will make the difference, what cost them keeping the majority of the dccc chairman himself losing his seat in his state, the blue state of new york. being the place where democrats lost four seats. that could end up being the difference in this thing. >> i think that's what's in the encyclopedia under tragic irony. california, a nation turns its lonely eyes to you. steve kornacki, thank you as always, my friend. we are just a few minutes away from the new drop of votes from arizona's maricopa county, but up next, we will talk live with the house head of the house of progressives, congresswoman jayapal. we will be right back. just one dose starts to relieve 9 of your worst cold and flu symptoms, to help take you from 9 to none. for max-strength nighttime relief, nyquil severe.

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there is talk that democrats could cut a deal with a moderate republican to basically prevent someone like kevin mccarthy from being coming speaker of the house. it's not something that has been discussed in your caucus? >> listen, alex, it is great to see you, first of all as always, i think what we are still focused on is the fact that we still have a chance to hold the house, and the fact that when people say, oh, these are wildly unexpected results, well, yes and no, alex. it turns out that when you promise a whole bunch of things that help make peoples lives better, and you actually deliver on them, people get excited. and they turn out. so, and they vote for you, and they want you to come back and do more for them. so i think that, you know, what i am struck by is how, i don't know what the republicans are going to do, but i can tell you that this is not going to be a cakewalk, even if they do get

into the majority. it is not going to be a cakewalk for kevin mccarthy to be speaker. they are going to fight with each other, they have a base of their party that has frankly brought the republican party down to such a low level that we are -- i believe that we are going to have an extra seat in the senate. and i think that there is still a very narrow path, but still a path for us to hold in the house. i am looking at states like pennsylvania, where people delivered for working people. and the republicans, in contrast, just want to take down our democracy, and they want to take away social security, medicare, abortion rights, and i think that people are seeing that. >> and when you talk about the majority, it is going to be a precarious hold, no matter who has it, right? they are not going to be huge margins that either party has in terms of the lower chamber. i think that a lot of folks do not understand how volatile the numbers are in the house. we

are talking about 445 people. a lot of things happen every year. i mean, unfortunately during covid, some people passed away, people take new jobs, people are calls away from office, there are a lot of different dynamics at play. when you are talking about a handful of seats that separate control of the lower chamber, i wonder if democrats are sort of thinking about possible eventuality, is whether they are planning for a potentially volatile, i wouldn't say power struggle, but do you know, effort to keep the caucuses together. >> well, that is always the case. people always talked about the senate being evenly divided in the last term. but as you may remember, there were times where we only had a three seat margin in the house, because people did retire, or they moved on to other positions, there were open seats for a while. so we have had the situation of having three, four, or five seat majorities. and all kinds of things happen in that situation. i think what is

going to be important is, if, if, if, it is a big f, if republicans take the house. i'm not conceding that yet, alex. but if they do, and it is a tiny margin, i think that democrats will be the last line of defense for working people, for poor people, for folks of color, for young people who turned out in massive numbers in this election, unbelievable turnout here. to make sure that we protect the winds that we have before, and that we, you know, we protect future erosions of rights and freedoms, and economic benefits for working people across the country. there is always weird, you know, accommodations of people that come together when you have the small margins. and i am really excited about the fact that we also have, by the way, 15 of our 18 progressive caucus members that we endorsed at the cpc park have already won. we have two that are still

outstanding, only one that has been declared a loss. we also have some great new members, and they are coming into the house, they are really going to strengthen our entire caucus. >> i just have to ask you one more question as you look at the landscape of protecting those freedoms. it looks like members of the house, freedom caucus are going to have even more power with the slim majorities. does that concern you, the fact that marjorie taylor greene may sit on the committee again? >> it certainly concerns me for our country, for our democracy. here is the thing, the freedom caucus has always been a caucus of no. people tried to compare the progressive caucus and the freedom caucus. the progressive caucus has a caucus of yes. we know how to govern. we knew there were slim margins. we worked with the president on his agenda to deliver real results. the freedom caucus, essentially, blows things up. and it is not a friend of working people. yes, it

concerns me, because it also concerns me about, you know, what people across the country are going to have to experience in terms of the ultra maga extreme agenda, and how they try to marginalize and target people across this country. >> all right, buckle up in the short term, congresswoman camilla jayapal, congratulations again for your time. that is it for us tonight, our special election coverage continues next with lawrence o'donnell. a long week of telling people how liberty mutual customizes your car insurance so you only pay for what you need. showtime. whoo! i'm on fire tonight. (limu squawks) yes! limu, you're a natural. we're not counting that. only pay for what you need. ♪liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty.♪

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>> and we are continuing our election coverage tonight. we are expecting new results from arizona, literally any moment. those results came in just about exactly 24 hours ago last night at about 10:01 pm. so we will be going, in a moment, as you know the senate races have not yet been decided in nevada, and in arizona. we are going to get more information about both of those races tonight. let's go straight to steve kornacki

at the big