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krystal was with some, but it is slowly getting better and they have a plea for other potential crystal tailors out there. >> nothing can bring chrissy back. this will not fade her, it will not change anything for us. but somebody knows they are in a relationship like this, tell somebody. if it can happen to chrissy, it can happen to anybody. >> if you are with somebody who makes you feel threatened, tell somebody loudly and now. and if you hear someone else, speak up. do not let a cry for help go by. but bu i am craig melvin, and this is dateline. >> her father always told me to keep an eye on her. you >> had made a promise to him? >> yeah. to make sure she was okay. i was going to find her. >> you just knew as her mom that something was very wrong?
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>> yes, i did. >> there was a report that she had been in a silver car, i knew that she was probably in trouble. you >> get a call from a block? number >> yes. >> you are not being honest with me because i am not playing. >> he would kind of turn it on, and try to get some truth out of it. >> i will keep digging and digging. >> there are so many unsolved cases out there. >> indigenous women and girls across the nation, it is heart wrenching. to really think about how we are invisible. >> i do not want another family to feel like how he felt. feel like how he felt hello, and welcome to dateline. carlock room up surrounded by love on her north dakota indian reservation. when she vanished, her family was frantic to find her and
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felt they were not doing enough. it is a common feeling in native american circles. but the yellow birds had a secret weapon, carla's own aunt happen to be a no nonsense investigator determined to find the truth. here is andrea canning with the secrets of spirit like. >> there is been a lot of sacrifice that went with us. on a personal level. >> but you are never done? >> i am never done. >> her name is lisa yellow bird, her job defies description. investigator, interrogator, searchers of last resort. the one people turn to in the very worst moments. >> this is brooke breaking, 24/7, this is you living embracing this. >> constantly. >> here is where alyssa works. sacred lands, teaming with
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beauty. but woven into the landscape are crimes that have gone on for years, maybe even centuries. native american women and girls missing and murdered. more than 300 reservations make up what is known as indian country in america, and in this country the statistics are staggering. according to department of findings, four out of five native american women have experienced violence in their lifetime, and a 2021 cdc studies, found homicide rates for native american women were more than three times of those of non hispanic white women. >> this is 2021, we are demanding our rights to be heard. >> list a yellow bird and many others believe that too often, cases are neglected by law enforcement. they say action is long overdue. >> who protect us? >> we protect us. >> the victims have sparked a
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movement called and am i w. >> it is a cry for help. >> lynette greybull wants the world to hear that cry. she is a activist who lives on the reserve in wyoming. >> i'm a full-blooded native american woman, and the statistics that hang over my head is out on the most stocked, raped, murdered of any ethnicity. >> that is shocking. >> it is heart wrenching to think about how we are invisible to america. >> she says native american women are trying to make themselves visible with events like the national day of accent. >> no more stolen sisters. >> if a white woman goes missing in a fancy neighborhood somewhere, versus an indigenous
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woman goes missing off a reservation, are they going to get the same attention? >> absolutely not. and even in this day and present time, they will not get the same attention. >> in this ongoing tragedy, licit yellow bird found her calling. she decided she would dedicate herself to searching for missing and murdered indigenous women, and began erwin's state of north dakota. she uses whatever method, whatever tool will bring a loved one home. >> i just do not want families to feel like they are all alone. >> she knows that feeling firsthand because after years of helping others, the crisis hit home for alyssa, when her own niece, carly yellow bird, went missing. >> me and her father were so close. he always told me to keep an eye on her, help her out, do not forget about her. >> you made a promise to him? >> yeah. >> what was that promise? >> to make sure she was okay.
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>> yeah. >> that was a buck >> it was august 2016, carla suddenly stopped texting and calling. it did not sit right with her mother and sister. >> we try to contact as many friends and people that she hung out around. nobody heard from her, and that is when it started getting scary. >> we were thinking something bad happened, because it was not like her to go this long without talking to. somebody >> carla had been living in the south dakota town -- april a detective with amanda and police department was assigned to her case. >> do you deal with a lot of missing persons cases? >> we do, we have quite a few. >> carlos romain told investigators where she may have gone the day she stopped communicating. >> she said she's going to stay michaels, and she did not know when she was coming back. >> is that a town? >> yes, it's a town on spear
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like. >> spirit lake is a reservation that spans 400 miles, about 300 east -- detective bowman, like most local law enforcement did not have the jurisdiction to investigate a case involving travel numbers on reservation land. most reservations have their own police forces, but the bureau of indian affairs, the b i, a division of the empowerment of interior is also involved in tribal law enforcement. the rules of the b.e.i. a, tribal police, and local cops can be confusing. especially to the just dropped families of missing women. back in mandan, detective bowman gave the b.e.i. a office on spirit lake a call. >> does this complicate things when you have these issues with reservations, cities, and everyone is trying to work together and it does not go so smoothly bia? >> absolutely you're waiting
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for key pieces of information to come from somebody else. that can be days, or weeks. but you are waiting. >> carla's mom loretta waited too, anguished over her daughter's disappearance. >> what is that like as a mom, waking up every day and she is still not calling? >> i cry every night to find answers or hear something but nothing. >> but nothing? >> you knew as her mom, something was very wrong? >> yes, i did. >> carlo was out there, somewhere maybe alone. if anyone knew how to find, or it was her and alyssa. >> turns out, carla and aunt lisa shared more than family, they shared a pass. coming up. >> carla had gone down a bad path. she >> went down the same path i went down. >> i will keep, digging and digging. it was not even a question of
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whether i was going to find her, i was going to find her. >> investigators uncover the first clues. >> there is a report that she had been a silver car. >> when dateline continues. teline continues k goodness. it's time for the "good news of the week." and, boy, do we need it. [ chuckles ] well, this safe driver saved money with the snapshot app from progressive. -how do you feel? -um, good? he's better than good. he got rewarded for driving safe and driving less. sorry, barb, just to confirm, this is the feel-good news of the week? this is what we found. -yay, snapshot!
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that when you walked in the room, you knew she had arrived? >> yes. she was outgoing and happy, and everyone was enjoyed being around her. she was always there for us. she watched over us, and she was a good big sister. >> carla's mom loretta and sister carrie recall how loving she was. that went for extended family to. when it came to carlo's relationship with her aunt lisa, they had their own kind of fun. >> she had this big gaudy ring on, and when she put her hand up it was like, oh my god. i was like, lose the ring, that looks horrible. what >> did she say? >> she was like, why? she asked do you want it? i'm like, no. >> carla enrolled in college and had children and got married. her once promising life fell apart. >> drugs got a hold of her. you >> must feel helpless, as a parent. >> yes, i did.
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she tried, she put herself into treatment. >> how proud of you of her that she did go into treatment and that she did try? >> very, that is why i would go see her. she was happy she made some friends, but when she got out it still, but she never wanted again. >> it got a hold of her again? the drugs? >> yes. >> for alyssa, carlos story, like so many other native american women, echoed her own. >> carla had gone down that path. >> she went down the same path i went down. >> how close to home without hitting for you? >> well, i count the number of times that i could've ended up in that same predicament. >> alyssa's life has been a seesaw of success in hardship.
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a proud member of four tribes. >> and the other one is standing rock. she says a teen, her boyfriend trafficked her for sex. still, she made it to college and had good jobs. she also battled addiction and served over two years imprison on drug charges. >> your history is kind of amazing, you are a mother of six, you've been to prison, but you have also studied criminal justice, worked as a prison guard, a welder, a social worker, and have been a legal advocate. how all these things prepared you for this? >> i don't know, but they sure come in handy. >> she took on her first case, just weeks after her release from prison. a young neighbor disappeared and lisa mobilized and family and friends to look for her. they found the girl alive. from there, people kept asking for help, and for the last 12 years, she has not stopped searching. >> i will sit there and keep
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digging and digging. the digging has paid off >> over her years of searching, alyssa has helped locate dozens of people. some came home alive, many others did not. but both families were grateful for answers. that was certainly the case with the young mother named olivia long bear who disappeared. she was last spotted in a pick up truck. alyssa followed a hunch on lake, and took her vote out with volunteers and sonar. garrett >> we went across the bay, and this little girl says do you think this is the truck? and i looked at it and i was like, oh my god. >> submerged in 21 feet of water, olivia's body strapped in the passenger seat. tough first is olivia's uncle. >> she brought so much closure. i am so indebted to her, i am so grateful to her and what she does. >> she says every recovery,
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every surge, has taken a toll. >> there are times that i will never get back with my family. my kids are all grown now. >> all of those sacrifices would steal her for the hardest fight of her life. the search for her own niece, carla. who made september, 2016, detective bowman was tracking down tip she had received about carlos case. >> there is a report she had been a silver car and been hanging out with tuna, dakota, and daylan. >> all three had lengthy criminal records. all three resided on the spirit lake reservation. bowman contacted tribal police. she said they never put her through to the investigator on the case, just told her they talked with tuna and told her she had not seen cara. if bowman wanted to interview carla herself, since she had no
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jurisdiction to interview -- when she had not received. for carlos and alyssa, it was time to step. in >> it was not even a question of if i was going to find, or it was just i was going to find her. what >> as the search for karla continues, an unexpected phone call gives us her first big break. >> coming up. but >> someone reaches out to alyssa, a new source with a secret. >> he said that he gave a ride to carlos brothers in law, and took them up to spirit lake. >> and he kept? going >> yeah, and he did not see or again. did you believe? him >> no. >> when dateline continues. when dateline continues i go to spin classes with my coworkers.
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waited as long enforcement search for her niece carla. when some >> when something is hitting that close to home for you, how do you kick into action? >> i put my poker face on and dealt with it like i did any other case. >> like so many times before,
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she stepped in. this time for her own family. >> she took it all herself, and got it rolling. >> to start, listen needed her sources to talk. she could work the phones, knock on doors, walk the prairies, but out here were cell service is nonexistent in some areas, the most effective way to communicate can be through social media and she had a massive network of followers she could tap into. >> what is the first thing you do? >> i went to social media, really. i put a call out saying carla is missing we. >> she knew that people being reluctant to talk to the police they would talk to her. >> talking to you would be so much easier then talking to a detective or a federal agent? >> yes, i believe. that >> lissa contacted everyone she could on the reservation, and was able to pinpoint the owner of the car
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that carlo was seen in. it was we -- lissa reached out to the detective to compare notes. gosh >> i did spend some time letting her know that i was relative, and that will please share as much information as you can with me. >> for detective bowman, lissa was a welcome hand. >> all help us good help, the more people looking, the easier this case gets resolved. >> the case, the detective had explained, i've become daunting in size and scope. >> she told me the basic surgery was spanning five states and three reservations. >> detective bowman had worked most of her leads, the only ones remaining were those three men. >> my hands were tied because she was stuck. this >> was no surprise to you? >> jurisdiction. >> but lissa it's not a cop,
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not restrained by jurisdictions or what she was allowed to say or do. >> my hands are not tied i will go find her. >> she used facebook to blast out what she knew. >> once i got information and i had some names, i put that out there. >> now, all of her followers knew the names of the man that were somehow involved in karla's disappearance. she waited for a response, and then her phone rang. >> why is my name being put in stuff when i do not even know it's going? >> on you get a call from a blocked number? >> yes. >> who is it? >> soon. tuna one of the man who -- >> hello everyone, i'm dara brown. president biden is in cambodia speaking to leaders of the summit. >> mister president, thank you very much. as the country coordinator, coordinator for the united
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states. in fact, this is, as i said, my third trip. my third summit. second in person. as testament to the importance united states places, and our commitment to asean central lucky. asean is at the heart of my administration's strategy, and work with a up in powered asean. today we take a new step beginning -- with the launch of the u.s. asean strategic partnership. together we were will tackle the biggest issues of our time from climate to security, defending against significant threats to rule-based order and threats to the rule of law. and to bill the indo specific,
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and a stable and prosperous, stable, and secure. we are putting real resources behind our approach. not just rhetoric. over the last year, my administration has announced more than $250 million in new initiatives with asean, and for 2023 i have requested $850 million for southeast asia. we will continue to build on that progress, following through on our commitments and launching concrete new initiatives that further strengthen asean and increase connectivity across southeast asia. though through our new u.s. asean electric vehicle initiative, we are going to work together to develop an integrated electric vehicle ecosystem in southeast asia, enabling the region to pursue
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clean energy, economic development, and ambitious emissions reduction targets. similarly, we are launching a u.s. asean platform for infrastructure and connectivity to bring the benefits of the partnership for global infrastructure and investment to the asean countries. to this platform we will develop projects together based on the needs you identify, to create sustainable, high standard infrastructure that is towards the people of the region. we will build a better future, the better future we all say we want to see. for all but one billion people in our country's. we will also discuss russia's brutal war with ukraine, and our efforts to address the wars global impacts, including in southeast asia. so i look forward to continuing our work together with asean,
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and with each one of you, to peace and prosperity throughout the region, to resolve challenges from the south china sea to myanmar, and to find innovative new solutions to share challenges. thank you again for the 45 years of partnership between us and the united states, and for all that we can accomplish together. thank you. >> that is president biden, he is in cambodia at the moment, speaking to leaders at the asean summit. let's bring in kelly o'donnell, the senior white house correspondent here. kelly, tell us what the president is expecting out of the summit. he did mention that it is only his second time in person, so it is a big deal that he is there in person this year. so what is he really expecting to gain from the summit? >> well, this is a real focus
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that the biden administration is trying to strengthen ties with the ten country block that makes up the asean summit and to really show how these nations, working with the united states can be a part of the u.s. strategy with china, and that of course is a big thematic part of this trip because it is building towards the meeting that president biden will have, his first in-person meeting since becoming president with china's president, xi jinping. that will be, of course, a critical world stage moment for president biden to talk about the issues where there is economic competition and military concern between the u.s. and china. obviously china is one of the great rivals of the united states on the world stage, and that is a complex and complicated relationship. of course, that affects all of the relationships with all of these other countries in southeast asia. so there are issues with dealing with the ability to the united states having open navigation in the south china
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sea, for example, will be one of the things talked about with the nations here in the next hours as he is having these meetings. talking about how he can have economic strength, trying to expand in areas of infrastructure, digital capability, health concerns of course with covid that everyone has lived through over the last few, years but the relationships of china cast a shadow. over all of this it is one of the most far-reaching relationships that the u.s. will have on the world stage, especially as it relates to russia and a tight relationship between china and russia. of course, that war with ukraine. so the states could not be higher then for biden as he began to this phase of the trip, and then heading into the meeting which will be at that next stop, at the g20, with president xi jinping. so here he will also have a chance to meet with the leaders of south korea and japan, so there are important meetings that are going on here to try to build the u.s. relationship with asia, which the u.s. feels
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is a strong economic partner, and a strategic partner for security, economics, and to try to have that edge against china and the strength that has in the world. dara. >> kelly o'donnell, our senior white house correspondent traveling with the president, wrapping up the presidents trip for us. there certainly is a lot in store for the next few days for biden over in the east asian area. so that does it for us here at msnbc. play stay with us for updates throughout the day. and we return to our program, dateline. rogram dateline i want to be honest with you, i do not know what you want. >> in their previous call, lissa tried to build a bond with suna. now she came at him full throttle. >> you think i have not dealt with your kind of people before? i have. i'll come at her personally.
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>> lissa strategy was to show suna how angry she was to intimidate him into giving up more details. >> tell me where my niece's body's hat, because we already know how it is gone down. and i'm telling you right now, you do not know who to trust. because your own friends are turning on. you >> i don't even know what anybody is talking. about >> are you trying to rattle him? >> well, he's questioning his own self about who he really is as a person. >> what do you want me to stay to you? what do you want me to say to you? what do you want -- me? >> the truth. how about let's tried for the truth? >> you are like a one woman good cop bad cop. >> i have never heard that one before. >> kind of fits though, right? >> kind of. >> you know what? when you want to get honest, you want to get -- -- real. and you want to save your own asked comey back. but until then i'm done. >> she hung up the phone.
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it was an impulsive move, maybe the wrong move. she would just have to wait and see. lissa update it careless mom, loretta. >> how much of all of this -- >> she shared everything with me. his old conversation with ally. >> manned in police were still running a parallel investigation, but the detective said she was not hearing back from the detective of indian affairs. >> you've reached out, there were not calls back? >> i'm not getting the information. anita >> how frustrating is? that >> is very frustrating. >> bowman documented her calls to the bia, but when we contacted the bia we were told that the bia agent that was assigned the case, had no knowledge of bowman's attempts to reach their offices. >> why are you not searching for? her and who is doing what?
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>> you did not feel like they were doing enough? >> they were not doing anything to begin with. . that is kind of how they operate. >> the bia told us that in carla's case, they assisted the fbi with search efforts on foot, and with helicopters, drones, and atvs. but lissa it is not counting on bia the to find carla. i suna was still her biggest lead, but she had hung up from. >> did you think that you are never going to hear from him again? >> no. >> turns out, she was right. >> hello, lissa? >> he called you back? >> he did. >> the power dynamic had shifted. suna was seeking her out, seemed to want to tell her something. >> lissa kept the pressure on, she needed suna to feel guilty. >> so were you betting on his conscience that eventually he
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would do the right thing? >> i knew he would. >> lissa demand for answers wore away at an hour defensive suna. >> i can have pity on you, but i want my niece's body. >> you know my parents did raise me right. i come from a -- a great family, you know what i mean? >> all this time suna is telling you that he wants to help, but his parents raised him right. >> that is him trying to negotiate with himself. that is the way i sought. >> she kept turning up the heat? >> and suna would go on, and she would listen to him, and then she tried to turn it on and try to get some truth out of him. >> after too many sleepless lights, the team caught up with lissa. >> i was tired, exhausted, and spent. >> the breaking point lissa for lissa told suna his life was in. danger >> well, give me the
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license plate number. i will look it up for you. >> you can come like, oh looking for you guys. >> suna had sponge so many stories, so many lies, this was one too many for lissa. >> i thought that was funny at some point. >> suddenly, every word he said made her laugh. >> to even tell them about this, and they are even concerned about it. >> i'm sorry, i'm sorry. i didn't -- i didn't realize what i just said. >> you might think suna would be offended. , but no it seemed to not come into some sort of reality. >> that was the turning point for him. >> he was almost persuaded by your sense of humor? >> yeah. >> i suna was about to give it all up. >> lissa phone rings again, and suna extends an invitation to
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me in person, finally. for carloads family the moment of truth. coming up. >> you still had that glimmer of hope? >> i mean, it is something that you don't ever want to hear in your life. >> a new revelation from suna. but is he now in danger to? >> he is absolutely convinced that he is being monitored. there is very paranoid at this point. >> when dateline continues. ne continues ter can forget all about those hairy situations. enjoy instant savings, when you purchase multiple appliances. shop daily steals this black friday, exclusively at lowe's. [school bells] when pain says, “i'm here,” i say, “so are they.” ♪♪ aleve - who do you take it for? every year, millions of people find a health plan at
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unforgiving land all lissa yellowbird gone home for inner searches to find a body. a suspect, let alone uncooperative one, is all too rare. then there was a guy, and he was calling. again and, he had cracked. what >> after all those wrenching hours on the phone, carla suna now said he would take lissa to carla body. >> he admitted to what lissa had long believed. carla was dead. >> suna insisted he did not pull the trigger, but he said in the aftermath he demanded he
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help move her body. >> they both had guns, you know to mean? and they were trying to ask me to touch her and older and grabber. i was going to touch a grab body. i wasn't going to grab it. i was i'm just like, what the -- man. >> did he explain to you the? motive >> yeah. the drugs. the money. >> so they had stolen her money and her drugs? >> yes. >> why kill her? why not just steal it and leave her there? >> the intention was to rob her, but it did not go as planned obviously. and, when it happened the way it did, he claims it was just as big of a shock to him. >> i did not know that was going to happen, it should not have happened. >> that is when she said they might know where she is that. i said is she alive? she said no. >> you had that little tiny glimmer of hope?
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>> even though i knew, but when she told me no it was like, oh my god, i really started crying. this is something that you don't ever want to hear in your life. >> this was your first born. >> yes. >> so i did not think, i did not ever want to be true. >> in mandan, detective bowman had also spoken with suna that day. he told her he feared the men involved in carla were after him. >> he is being convinced that he is being monitored too. he is very paranoid at this point. >> bowman thought that suna could well be in danger. >> this is a monumental moment in this case, and you need help. >> i know the fbi can cover everything. they can go anywhere and so i need the fbi. >> the fbi is responsible for investigating major crimes on reservations. special agent birch lure had been in contact with bowman about carla disappearance.
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>> on the day bowman had found out that suna had turned, birch loose team was out on the reservation with the bia with a helicopter looking for carla. they thought that they needed to bring suna that night but, it would not be so easing. >> suna was hiding, and he had shut off his phone. his phone could not be located. >> were you starting to get worried as he is not responding now? he is stopped communicating? >> absolutely starting to get worried that he is going to leave us on a wild goose chase. >> nevertheless, the next day lissa and detective bowman went up to spirit lake to connect with bergman's team, all of them counting on suna promised to take them to carla body. as you are pulling up to spirit lake, how are you feeling? >> i was in full anticipation. i just wanted to hurry up and get this over with and make
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sure it was her. >> but suna was not there. fbi agents eventually found him at a relative's house. suna got into an fbi vehicle and they drove a few miles down the road. this is where suna led you to? >> this is the spot. >> an isolated field on the reservation. >> it was surreal, i think, at this moment. we've got three or four or five law enforcement vehicles out. here suna gets out of the car, we are all walking. it is anticipation has built up to this moment. we are right around this area and we kind of stop, and then suna just points and says it is going to be over there. where the pushes are. as we walk a little bit further, once we get to a certain point in time, we can see some of carla clothes. >> you can see the body from? here >> we probably walked up a little bit further and then we could see some of those bright colored clothes. >> so you knew you'd founder?
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>> we knew we found her at that point time. this is the point where suna gets a little choked up, he becomes emotional. that is when suna this was not supposed to happen. >> later, the agents brought photos and she i.d.'d the body. >> first thing i noticed was that ring. it was that ring. >> the big adi? ring >> she still had it on. it was right there and just to see the condition she was in. definitely not my first time seeing anybody in that condition. >> it was your niece. >> definitely seeing my -- i guess i had never felt like i had such an open wound in the middle of nowhere with seeing someone you care about, just discarded like that. they discarded her, they just left her. >> then, lissa made the awful
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call to loretta saying they found carla body. the news came as a sad relief. did it help you knowing that she was coming home, that you would not have to wonder anymore where she was or what happened? >> yes, that made me feel better. at least i knew where she was and that i got to bring home. >> for so many other native american mothers, bringing their missing children home was something they could only hope for. but, something there is new reason for hope. >> it has been a sad history and so we are trying to change it. >> coming up, one >> you actually spoke on behalf of soon a, why would you do? >> that in court a surprise that we divide carla yellowbird family. >> do you think you will ever be able to repair things with? >> and. >> i want you to know that you
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carla yellowbird was finally home. her remains returned to her family after carla, lead her aunt lissa and the fbi to her
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body. but sadly many native americans like carla are still missing, and injustice that has spurred a growing movement for change. with a conclusion of the secrets of spirit like, here is andrea canning. >> the story of carla yellowbird was in many ways tragically routine. a native american woman goes missing and later turns up dead. what was unusual in carla was that her killers were brought to justice. dale saint pierre said he hit carla on the head with a gun and it accidentally discharged. he pleaded guilty to felony murder and related charges, and was sentenced to 27 and a half. years he was sentenced to 50 years in prison for carlos murder and other charges. as part of a plea, deal which suna was sentenced to 15 years for second degree murder and related charges. >> you came face to face with
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suna guy. >> yes i did. >> what did he say? do >> you told me he was sorry. >> did you say anything to? am >> i was just happy that he showed where my daughter was. >> there was a surprise witness at suna sentencing. >> you actually spoke on behalf of suna. why would you do that when he was a part of something that was so horrific? >> first of all, we suna did not plot to kill carla them. he did not pull the trigger. without we suna would never have gotten carla back. >> lissa who is really risking any relationship with loretta to save suna. but she wanted to encourage others to come forward like he. had >> it would send a message to others that it is okay to provide information, to give other people closure. when we sat down with her, --
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but we cannot forgive her for advocating for suna. she has spoken out about her feelings on social media. >> do you think you will ever be able to repair things with lissa? >> maybe in time. >> i pray for whoever is out there. >> change has come slowly for the missing and murder women's movement. that is not stop those who fight for the cause. just the opposite. to keep >> to keep law enforcement and authorities on their toes when it comes to getting justice. >> to all the families who have lost a loved one, i want you to know that you are not alone and i'm here with you. >> when grable says they want people everywhere, not just in indian country, to mobilize for missing and murdered women. >> we know it is time to speak up and it is time to fight, and it is time to bring light to our. issues >> as we reported this story, many people like lynette share their concerns about law enforcement's handling of crimes with native americans.
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>> you see this all too often, where their daughter's case is just not being taken seriously enough. >> yes. >> or their sister or their mother? >> or their sons. i've heard log forsman tell the family, and even myself, that this person is an alcoholic, or this person is known to party, and i always cringe when i hear that because that does not matter. they are still a human being. >> the issue that we are seeing with missing and murdered is so systemic that there are no easy answers. >> you bring such a unique perspective. >> one thing does bring hope to native american communities. the appointment of deb haaland to the secretary interior. in that role she oversees the b.e.i. a, the first native american to do. so >> when i see an indigenous woman missing, i see one of my own sisters or my cousins or my auntie's or even my own child. >> i take this obligation.
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freely >> once a single mother on food stamps, she put her cell through law school and before being named to the cabinet. >> when indigenous women look at you, what do you hope they see? >> i have lived that life and i want their voices to be represented here. >> tackling the missing and murdered indigenous crisis is a priority for secretary haaland. >> this is a crisis that has been happening in our country since colonization and it is very, very deep. so, i am grateful that we are seeing some action on it, right now. >> in 2019 the trump administration set up a special trash forced to address the problem. congress then passed savannah's act and the not invisible act to improve cooperation and increase the focus on missing and murdered women. and in 2021, secretary haaland and the biden administration established a first of its kind missing murdered unit in the
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indian affairs bureau. >> it is kind of a feet on the ground operation, where you are going to literally go through this case files and go case by case? >> absolutely, yes. boots on the ground is a good way to say that. yes. >> in a written statement, the bia it welcomes the additional resources. bia office of justice services take seriously each and every case they are working to solve because they are often, know that cases are not just a case file, they represent a family missing a loved one that deserves closure. secretary haaland says changes to policy and law enforcement are critical. but so is ways-ing awareness. not just in indian country, but in the whole country. >> in some cases these missing persons cases, they do not get reported. if they are not reported that nobody knows to investigate
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them. that is something that i am very passionate about because families deserve some answers. >> the missing and murdered woman fights at for thousands of people. they are not an omnibus. everyone has a name. like olivia loan bear. ashley laurie heavy runner. cecilia barber sonoma. faith hedge path. montana. and carla then yellowbird. h one beloved by someone like lissa and loretta who lay their daughter to rest on the reservation where carla was raised. >> i go to the cemetery a lot. i would take the kids there too. we are going to go see their mom. >> how does it feel to be back here? >> as for lissa she went to the field where her niece spent her final moments. >> i miss suna we carla.
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everybody does feel. i do my best to make sure that this does not happen to anybody else. >> carla represent so many other women. >> she does. but >> are you going to keep fighting, surging? >> for sure. the most evidently. i do not want another family to feel like how we felt. what. >> that is all for this edition of dateline. why am craig melvin, thank you for watching. for watching good evening once again, i

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