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politicsnation. tonight's lead, countdown. ♪ ♪ ♪ right now, we are still awaiting the result of several key races at all levels of government. four days after the midterms, election officials still counting ballots and the process could stretch for weeks and some races. as it looks tonight, republicans will hold a paper thin majority in our next congress. but even that could change with several house races in california. still too close to call. and that control of the senate is currently down to two contest. nevada, were catherine cortez masto is within striking distance of adam axle. and we could know the result of

that contest within the next few hours. and of course, there is a pivotal coming runoff in georgia senate race. one that could potentially so up the senate for democrats if raphael warnock defeats herschel walker. the democratic party feeling hopeful today after the arizona senate race was called for mark kelly last night. and perhaps no one is happier and president biden right now, finding time for a victory lap. even in the midst of his falling trip to cambodia. it remains to be seen if these favorable midterm results, for democrats will get president biden approval numbers a boost. what we have seen this midterm cycle is a diverse array of candidates winning office in historic fashion. including the groundbreaking

election of the first black governor of maryland. which is where and who we start with tonight. so joining me now as maryland governor elect, westmore, a democrat. mr. governor elect, we really appreciate you joining us tonight after your historic victory this week. and as you, heard we could expect results and that nevada's senate race to come down within the next few hours. you have several other races, federal, state and local that are still decided or possibly taking weeks to finish. but democrats overall defied expectations, this midterm cycle. logging some historic wins including of course, you being elected to become marilyn's first black governor. after months of speculations that democrats would lose heavily on this midterm cycle. what would you attribute this

week's results to governor elect? and i like to keep saying that because i have known you a while, we have worked on there. and i am very proud to call you governor elect. >> i am proud to be with the reverend, i really am. and i tell, you i think about this race and i think the reason that we are successful, the reason democrats were successful is because we spoke to the issues that people were talking about in their own lives. i always say that politics is almost like an open book test. voters will give you the answers. you have to make sure that you are listening. and i know that when i had an opponent who was talking about crt, when we are talking about economics. we were talking about work, wages, wealth. when i had an opponent who was talking about democracy and the finding a defense of democracy as storming the capitol, i was talking about a defense of democracy. whether it was the teacher who was waking up forcing in the morning and going to bed late at night because they were leading our future.

or the person like myself, who put on the uniform in this country and served our nation overseas. not that was my definition of patriotism. we really tried to meet voters where they were in talk about the issues that they care about in their own lives. >> do you anticipate that democratic victories will translate to some kind of boost for president biden's approval rating? and for the democratic party overall as we look into the next two years? >> i think the answer to that is yes. i look at the state of maryland, where in our, race we won by the largest margins in a governor's race since in the past four years. the largest margin of victory in 40 years is what we just accomplished. and i think what we are also seeing that democrats are able to an up and down the ballot, all across the state of maryland because there was a unified message and a unified goal. that in this time, in this moment, we are going to that was be -- moved fast but that we were

going to move collectively. it was not just about how can we get democrats to come out. during the midterm elections, it was about how do we increase the democratic base. i think we were successful being able to accomplish that as well because we had, independents and even a good swath of republicans who came and voted for us this time around. >> now let me push right there because in addition to that history, you yourself laid this week, i understand that you are also a part of a political watershed moment in the state's history. former democratic congressman anthony brown was elected maryland attorney general this week. the first african american to hold that position. between you, that two of you state treasure derrick davis and state house speaker adrienne jones, black leaders now home for perhaps the top force that we had officers in maryland. and i know our longtime maryland chair -- larry young, a reporter is a static because we have never

seen this. what does that mean for a state that is nearly one third black, according to the u.s. census? that people voted across racial lines and party lines? >> well, i think it is also important to note the history of the state. importthis is the state of harrt tubman and third good martial. and frederick douglass. it is also the state where we incarcerate more african american boys between the ages of 18 and 25 than anywhere else in this country. number two is mississippi. that this is the home of some of the most affluent black town or black entrepreneurs that we have in this country. yet at the same time, the state of maryland has an 8 to 1 racial wealth gap. so i think what we are able to do and show that the ability to be able to address these issues, that has got to be everybody's assignment. and so whether from myself or other history makers, myself was the first black governor and only the third african

american elected and this country's history. i understand that making history was not the assignment. the assignment is that we can address things like child poverty and the racial wealth gap, environmental injustice. if we're able to collectively do, that people would be able to push forward on it. >> yes, just achieving that position and not changing their positions of those that need the positions uplifted is only ceremonial. you are right, governor elect, before i let you go i know your top priority is to serve as governor maryland. however, as just the third person to be elected of governor since reconstruction as you mention, some are wondering whether you might be headed in the future for an even loftier chief executive position. and, facts of that speculation started before you even won your race. let me be the one to ask you first. what is your response to that suggestion that you might someday be well suited to make a run for the white house?

>> my response is, this will be in maryland's decade. this will be a decade from mary lyn will grow and compete and win. and i look for to being maryland's governor and maryland's leader in order for us to make that happen and make that accomplished. i am not running for president, i'm running to make sure that this will be a maryland's decade. >> i noticed you said decade, which means that after 2032, who knows what you might do. i will have to talk to your wife about that. thank you for being with us, thank you for being with us. always good to talk to, you governor elect. i have to give you -- that is how you called me. it's west, boom, boom, boom. glad to have you on tonight. my next guest, a very special in my life. somebody i have known for a very long time. joining me now is jonathan jackson, the newly elected congressman representing illinois's first congressional district. and also, son of my longtime

mentor, reverend jesse jackson. thank you for joining me today. first of all, a-elect jackson and it'll be really hard to be keep calling you that rather than jonathan. congratulation congressman-elect, it's great to see you as always. and certainly, you had a landslide. made everyone proud. i know your father had a major influence on your life as he had on mine. to start, how are you feeling about being elected to represent illinois? specifically chicago where you are born and raised? but also where your family, as a long political history. how do you hope to carry out that legacy, the political history of your family? through your own political career? >> thank you, if it's appropriate in reverend al, uncle al, reverend al, i get the two confused because they

are one. i feel great. i am honored, excited that this is the longest serving district for african americans in the country. african americans have had the seat since 1929. i am following behind a tremendous leader and congressman, bobby rush. very excited about that. excited about the new district. this recused all being one county, now it is three counties of 60 miles long. 260 african americans that have been relocated outside of the county and chicagoland area. because of safety and opportunities. we look forward to rebuilding chicago, biding chicago and back home. most beautiful city emma say and the nation. tremendous honor to campaign with my mother, my father, my family. so here we are reverend al, i am so excited and grateful. >> one of the things you always have done since you were a young, young kid. i can say that you, look at the

bigger picture. let's talk about that. although the control of the house, currently remains unresolved, it is likely the result will be slim majority republican. as an incoming democratic freshman, what would be your approach if the party is in the minority? it's a time to stand and fight or is bipartisan compromise possible? >> well reverend al, i have no doubt that we will take the house and the majority. it would be the nations loss if we did not have secretary, speaker of the house pelosi at the helm. we have a great leadership, group up there. and you know 42 million early votes can, they understand the day of voting is counted first. early voting is counted, second mail-in voting is counted third. one of the things that was so dangerous, for president trump was doing as he was physically

just dismantling equipment and the post office boxes, the post office around several parts of the region so that mail that was sent in would be getting in late and weeks later. same thing as happened with the early voting. they were saying just count a day off and not threaten people, intimidate persons who are going to the election sites to counter vote. i think the american public has overwhelmed the polls, they have come, out still a lot of early voting that have not been counted yet. so now, our goal is to make every vote count. every vote count, i am confident we will be winning, for that i am grateful. truly appreciative of all the persons that came out about. for those who did not come out the, we have to reach out to them and get them even greater incentives to vote like what do we need to do to educate people, to inform them? to inform them to come out to the polls? >> and your victory speech, you talked about your priorities. priorities, your proponent of medicare for all, you are also

actively calling for more affordable housing and economic development in your district. the progressive proposals have been, have had wide support in the country. but are posed by virtually all of your republican colleagues, and a significant number of democrats. how do you change that congressman? >> we have to take the case to the people. people need affordable housing because the rate is going up, essentially now if you had 400,000 dollar house, on 60% interest as opposed to 3% interest. you're upping the equivalent of $600,000 on a 400,000 dollar house. people will need additional resources for housing. we have seen the rides an apartment, a lot of people being priced out of housing. we have seen that the food assistance is not keeping up with the cost of inflation at the grocery store. seniors are hurting. we have people that work 30, 40, years who have retired that

cannot afford to go to the hospital. that have a form of retirement and a form of insurance. so clearly, the system is broken. one of the other things i have proposed, reverend sharpton was think big. be a manchin. we are under resourced and under cared for. not a part of my health insurance for health care. we don't have enough doctors, why can't we look at health care at noon. if the average cost of creating a doctors on $2,000 per year, for $10, 000, 10,000 doctors, you are marquette at 100,000 a year. that's a billion dollars a year. can we earmarked ten billion dollars, a billion dollars a year to create a pipeline for african american doctors? so they can go back into the neighborhood, back into the communities. look at people that have come from abroad, they come over here fully educated, with no student debt to become doctors. and they are servicing bag -- in a magnificent way. we also have the talent within the country, we just have them

put together -- and we can turn on the greenlight to scale up thousands of young people into the medical profession. and we are going to need it again. >> last question. when asked about two of the top issues among voters this year, abortion rights and inflation, you expect, expressed optimism for what the democrats can get accomplished. can you elaborate on that specifically on what is driving your optimism on these issues? in well, i think there was a lot of history, of saying democrats are against her for a crime. someone is not against crime. that was inflammatory language in very immature and silly. nobody wants to see criminals out on the street. we all stand in accordance with violence. when we talk about inflation, the nation rate out of baby food this year. so clearly, that is not market forces. that is a few companies that control too much, have pricing power that really --

are rising, raising up the price of food, baby food, we have seen toilet tissues run out, napkins run out during covid. lysol run, outcome on. we have the means of production. we now need to put more incentives back into the structure. small businesses, for family farmers, so they can write down their equipment faster. they can take their food across state lines. we should not have to go through the bottleneck we saw during covid when they said the poultry plants for down. not enough chicken, the pork plants were down, not enough pork. there's a lot of family farms -- that are saying so that they can sell their food across state lines. i think we should look towards expanding that. >> well representative-elect, jonathan jackson, congratulations again. congratulations to reverend jesse and -- who have all of their kids and two young sons of theirs of congress. all of the kids have established something. then they had time to help people like me go where they

went. they should be proud and your wife and your kids who i know are the ones that are the real smart ones and the jonathan jackson household. after the break, america rises to elect a history making slate of leaders. and later, the red wave that former president donald trump was shouting about four months, failed to materialize. our political panel weighs in on whether this maga meltdown could finally drive a wedge between trump and the rest of the republican party. but first, my colleague richard knew a for today's top news stories. richard? >> revak, a saturday to. you start with breaking, news for us for you. to world war ii era airplanes collided and crashed in texas. it happened at the wings over dallas airshow, around 1:20 pm local time, i've known how many were in both aircrafts. more on this later. i'm notional scenes in the southern ukraine city of kherson today. ukraine's military tucked back

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what the exact balance of power will be after the midterms, it is clear this election day was a good one for democrats. an even better one for those of us who dream of a more diverse democracy. throughout the country, we saw a wave of candidates make history in their respective states. and i want to take the time to mention a few. wes moore, who we heard from earlier in the show will be the first black governor of maryland and just a third black governor to be elected anywhere in the country since reconstruction. alex protea, the first latino elected to the senate from california, while delilah ramirez and the idea karate o will be the first latina to represent illinois and colorado and congress, respectively.

lgbtq candidates, big one as well with eric sorenson of illinois and becca volant of vermont. becoming the first openly gay congresspeople to represent their states. while -- healy will be the first openly lesbian governor of massachusetts. >> tonight, i want to say something to every little girl and every young lgbtq person out there. [applause] i hope, i hope tonight shows you that you can be right ever, whoever you want to be. >> and there were a republican trail blazers as well. sara could be sanders or be the first female governor of rockets arkansas, while katie

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♪♪ it's subway's biggest refresh yet! welcome back to politicsnation, i have my political panel with me to discuss the midterm elections. and some other hot topics. joining me now is olivia troye, former adviser to vice president mike pence. and charles blow, msnbc political analyst and opinion columnist for the new york times. charles, let me start with you. let's start with the midterm election results. you wrote in the new york times, you know i read you very often, all of the time. in fact, he wrote that the election underscored how meaningless and misleading so much of the procrastination,

procrastinating on competitive races have become. so much of it is just chatter. people guessing, people spinning data into hard facts end of quote. why do you think so many people were predicting a red wave and what were they missing charles? >> well you know part of it is the business we are in. i say we because i am in it as well. you are asked all of the time to predict. and we fall prey to that. there is a pack mentality iran prediction. one person predicts, it and we sooner than enough is contagious and another person predicts and it becomes almost like a fact even though it is not. we were, getting a little bit from polling here and there. pulling as become difficult to aspartame by the way. fewer people are answering polls and so it becomes very difficult. you have to take things with a grain of salt. a lot of things people do now is poll of polls, which is an average of all polls to get a

closer sense of what may be an anomaly. what may be actually closer to what people are thinking. but even, then we were still not quite getting i think a real sense of how people would behave. we may have been getting an accurate sense of what people were worried about but they did not necessarily vote on their worry about the economy. they voted on their worry about what the country was swinging too far in a radical direction. >> yes, olivia there was a lot of worry about the spirited election results. but so far the drama has been minimal. the real voting machine malfunctions in maricopa county arizona that affected about a quarter of voting locations in the county. officials said nobody was being prevented from voting because of the problems. of course, that has not prevented former president donald trump and some of his allies for calling a new vote

in arizona and in nevada where votes are still being counted. are you feeling better about the help of the democracy today than you were before the election? >> absolutely, i think look what happened in this election. it turns out that democracy does matter to americans, i think they came out and voted. i think it was women's rights that drove the vote and i think it was democracy. i think a lot of people criticize president biden for talking about it so bluntly and calling it out for what it was. i think he was right to do, that we have an extreme affection here that overtook the republican party and i think people showed up and said no, we will reject this. we want to move on from this extreme hate. and as far as arizona goes right now, i do think that is something to continue to watch. i think you will see trump continue to -- dispute lies about whatever is happening there and you will see a lot of these other far right-wing pundit people come out and start to kind of repeat that. i think that'll be something to

watch mostly. >> charles, ozark about georgia. the senate race between the reverend raphael warnock and rachel walker is headed for a runoff. and while stacey abrams was unsuccessful in a bid to unseat governor brian kemp, you point out a slightly higher percentage of black men voted for her and voted for president biden in 2020 according to exit polls. many of us were being told that black man were not going to vote. what are your takeaways about the black vote in georgia and nationwide and blackmon voting at a higher number than predicted? >> well we need to clear up this whole conversation around how black men vote. in a general election and this particular election. if you look at the way the black men are voting compared to women, the partisan gap between the black men and the black women is less than any

other group of people. it is twice as big for white voters. it is twice as big for hispanic voters. there was not enough data to breakout asian american voters. we have to stop looking at this as like a black man problem. >> so when you use when you say the data shows the, front him in between white men and white women and latino men and latino women. >> that is, at the gender differential. the gap between where white man, the way white men are voting and the way white women are voting, the percentage of those who are voting for democratic party's is twice. the gap is twice as big as between black men and black women. that gap and this poll is about six points. >> i wanted to clear that up. >> well between the way they voted, and the way the women voted. for hispanic men, i think it was 12 or 13. this was a male problem. if you think of more, more

unmanned drifting away from democrats and towards republican, if you think about what the problem, that's a man problem. that's not a black man problem. if we asked the democratic party, are you able to stop black man from simply behaving like other men? which is that men in general for tomorrow republican than women do. >> or can you get more men to vote democratic if that is what your goal is. we are running out of time bubba for let you go, i want to ask both of you to break out your crystal balls and tell me how these midterm results could affect the 2024 race for the white house. charles, you first. give us your outlook for the democrats and then olivia, share with us your prediction for republicans. >> well, i will still rip olivia from the republican side. biden is energized but also, the people who want to challenge trump are very, very

energized. they have all been laying in wait, trying to see if there is something, that will knock him off of his perch. this may be the first thing that looks like it gets to have a chance of knocking him off the perch and that gives them an in. >> olivia? >> yes, i agree with that. this is sort of the reckoning that i have been waiting for the gop to happen. and you gave me a glimmer of hope but look, i am not cutting myself, i missed a knock on this because i've seen the show before or they have said that they are done with trump, walking away from it. we have seen this time, time again. people behind closed doors are talking about. it what will we do about it? and then when he starts attacking these people, he starts going after them, he starts really getting at the core of them, all of these people pull back and lie. i think that we will learn a lot in the next couple of weeks, we will learn a lot this coming week with my former boss, mike pence. who will be out there doing town halls and a book coming out. and i think desantis will be one to watch. >> all right, olivia troye and charles thank you both for being with us.

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commanders football team, along with team owner dan shiner and the nfl. the civil lawsuit claimed that snyder, the franchise, the lead and its commissioner roger godot violated a city consumer protection law by allegedly undermining and publicly minimizing multiple sexual harassment investigations to keep the team profitable. but the commanders and nfl have denied the allegations, as the district ag says the defendants could face penalties adding up to millions of dollars, calling for the findings of a previous sophistication to be made public. joining me now is carl racine, attorney general of the district of columbia. attorney general rasheen, thank you for being with us tonight. on thursday, you announced a suit against commander dan schneider and the nfl contending that amid both a

congressional poll and your own offices investigations stemming from multiple sexual harassment claims against the commander organization, d.c. residents and consumers relied to to keep the team profitable. again, both the commanders and league have denied the allegations, which the nfl responded to in a statement on thursday, calling them, quote, legally on sound and factually without basis. what's your response to that, mister attorney general? >> it's good to be with you, reverend. thank you for giving us the opportunity to tell the truth to the american people, as we did when we announced our lawsuit. let me just say a few things. first, dan snyder, roger goodale, the nfl, the commanders have lied and deceived the district of columbia consumers and the public. here's what they said. dan snyder told us that he did not have any idea of what was

going on within his team, that he was too distant from the team, and that he is going to exercise more control over it. what we know is that he not only knew about the allegations, but he participated himself in some of the misogyny, the sexual harassment and the the basement of women. we were also told by dan snyder and the nfl, including roger goodale, that the nfl was taking over an investigation, and that it would be an honest, independent investigation, and that the public would be able to understand and have confidence in that. what we know is that dan schneider sought to interfere and did interfere in the investigation, that he sought to and attempted to intimidate witnesses. what we know is that the nfl did not conduct an independent

investigation. we know that dan schneider had veto control over what the nfl said about the investigation. reverent, that's why no one has seen an investigative report. all we have seen our seven sentences about the substance of the so-called investigation. lastly and importantly, you are right, we're seeking millions of dollars because the nfl and dan snyder had been trying to protect their image while making millions and billions of dollars. now is the time for that to be held accountable. no one, not even the nfl and then schneider are above the law. >> attorney general, in addition to the sexual harassment investigations into the commanders organization, virginia attorney general is also investigating the team along with federal investigators in virginia over allegations of financial impropriety on the team's part.

but how does your pending retirement from your current office affect the feature of this lawsuit? >> sure, we have been working on investigating this matter, interviewing witnesses, revealing nearly 1 million pages of documents for over a year. we did not come lightly to filing this complaint. we filed a complaint because of the overwhelming evidence. it is correct that i am leaving office i'm generally second. my successor no doubt will take a look at the hard work of professionals in my office. i am confident that any objective lawyer is going to want to continue to pursue this righteous case against an organization, the commanders and the lead, the nfl. reverend, you know the nfl well. they believe that they are above the law. not in the district of columbia. >> ag racine, before you go, our audience wants to know, what is the latest on your

investigation into migrant busing? you announced a month ago that you were investigating texas governor greg abbott and other gop governors over their bus relocation of migrants to democratic led cities. on thursday, texas announced it had set out it's 300 bucks this extra cities. what can you tell us about your office's investigations and where they are right now? >> let me tell you a couple of things, first of all, arizona, florida and texas are playing politics with human beings. reverend, you know and i know that we were taught to treat people as our neighbors. the way that those governors are treating human beings is like their shadow, and that's why our office is looking at every means of trying as best we can to put a winning case together. i have to tell you, they are

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♪ ♪ ♪ >> hello, everyone, i am ali velshi. four days after the election, senate control remains in the bounce. it all comes down to nevada. democratic senator mark kelly has been reelected in arizona, beating the trump endorsed blake masters by more than five points. it's another loss for the big lie, as kelly pointed out in his victory speech today. >> i also want to thank our states election officials, honorable republicans and democrats, who are doing the important work of making sure