you can read less. you know why it happened. >> for all of our talk about the nationalization of elections, there are still races like this where, yeah, there are nuances to it. >> i want to go back to this quickly. you talked about the power of the corner union innovator. we were talking about this earlier with curing it. it seems like they are trying to make sure that they are calling and making sure that their votes are being counted and tallied properly. >> remember, this is a state, i said it once and will say again, operatives told me you either win by two or you lose by one, and so they had known that this is going to come down to very small margins. so they are treating a accordingly. >> we're still here, and we're not going anywhere because you're about to see a scene 12 seconds, and it's actually a's life, because a new hour of election coverage begins right now. now.

♪ ♪ ♪ >> welcome back to our continuing coverage of the midterm elections, all eyes right now, let's get to the critical state of nevada, the senate race there which could determine which party controls the chamber. the last hour saw clark county, which is where las vegas is, releasing results from its remaining 22,000 meld ballots. while shaw county is expected to release its next batch of votes around 9:30 pm. i want to check in with steve, i don't know if i got all the cameras facing me, so i don't think there is one of at the moment. we are going to get a camera on steve kornacki. there you go. i want to ask you what is going on in nevada right now? >> it is clark that we're waiting on right now and that senate race. let me pull it up here, for some reason, i have landed in

missouri, nothing against -- uncharted get to the silver state, where adam laxalt leads rip up -- by 163 votes, but the ball game may be coming down to the 22,000 mount bouts that clark county officials have told us they are set to release tonight. they gave us a window on this of 7 pm eastern, 9 pm 30 pm eastern. obviously, it'll be closer to that 9:30 and then the 7:00. we have the website loaded right here and are checking, i hit the refreshed button, i think that's the 10,000 time here that i've had in the last couple of hours but really, we are truly at the point where -- >> we're all hitting the reset button with you. >> we're truly at the point where any minute at any second, that batch of votes, that 22, 000, could be reported out. the stakes are huge because they are mailed ballots in clark county. we have seen the mail ballots in clark county breaking

heavily for catherine cortez masto to the tune of about 60% every time we've gotten one of these updates. democrats are expecting that this will be a favorable update for them, and if it indeed is, then not only will pool cortez masto ahead of laxalt, we will bring her over by a significant margin. extra significant when you consider that outside this, there is not much for left in nevada. what else is there? there is about 10,000 ballots that come from washable condo, that is where reno is, the other blue county in the state. cortez masto has done well with the updates there. that is expected about 11:00 tonight, and then there really is a scattering of votes in the red rural counties here, where laxalt could pick up a few votes, but the volume of vote there pales by comparison to what is still to come, mainly from clark county. on top of this, by the way, we're getting 22,000 tonight from clark county. they also have about 6000 provisional ballots.

those will be tallied and released next week, expected to favor the democrats, and they have some curate ballots as well, probably about 9000 cured ballots, ballots that had signature issues, maybe the voter forgot to sign it. they give you the window in nevada where you can reach out to election officials, verify your identity. the bout can be counted, so there are other opportunities. the provisional ballots in particular, there are other opportunities for cortez masto to gain votes. bottom line, if she gets in 22, 000, what she has been getting in the previous updates, because we have been getting updates from clark county like this in the last couple of nights here, if she does, she can build a lead that when we look at the rest of the map, you can find a way for laxalt to capture. if she does do that, if she does win the state, then on top of last night, mark kelly winning arizona for the democrats in the senate race, democrats will have their 50th senate see with kamala harris breaking the tie. that will ensure them continued control of the u.s. senate,

whatever happens in that december six georgia runoff, don't be deceived looking at 53 -- if cortez masto wins here, democrats win the senate. >> i want to ask you one thing, i want to make it 100% clear with audience, we're expecting something like 22,000 ballots from clark county. they are not in, just to be clear. that's what you're refreshing for. >> that is correct. the biggest development we had tonight was in arizona, where an hour ago in maricopa county, the clark county of nevada, the biggie in terms of where the votes are, we got a big update there, and it was favorable to katie hobbs, the democratic candidate for governor, who holds a slim lead over kari lake, the republican. there are still a lot more votes to come, maybe 200,000 for maricopa county. that is a process that will play out over the next couple of days, but katie hobbs got numbers that i think we're encouraging to her campaign. that race is far from settled for governor. this hour, oh of the attention

squarely on nevada and really on clark county because again, they have given us this window here, seven to 9:30, when they expect it. it's 905 eastern right now, and the minute we get it, believe me, i'll let you know. >> steve, i want you to keep talking about core county there in nevada, and i want you to repeat something in this hour that he repeated a couple of hours ago, and that is a trend of these ballots coming into clark on the. you said before that when these batches of votes have come in, the senator cortez masto has gotten 60% of those votes that have come in. if we are waiting for another 22,000 votes, by my rough mathematics, 60% of that 22,000 is 13,200 votes. is that what you're looking for when you hit that refresh button, and those ballots come in? is that the magic number you're

looking for? >> yeah, something in that neighborhood. that's the neighborhood that she's been in in terms of -- we got a batch of these just a day from clark county, that's how they broke, and that's why it brought her to the cusp of overtaking laxalt windows came in yesterday, so democrats are confident that these numbers are going to look something like that because -- i can show you inside our county, it's blue right now. the overall margin for cortez masto in the county is seven points, but again, that includes same-day vote. we're talking just about mailed ballots here, and the vote by mail is heavily democratic in clark county, it's heavily democratic across the country. the expectations when you're talking about mail-in ballots, you're talking about the core strength here for democrats in terms of all these different types of votes. yes, yesterday, we got a chunk of about 26,000 from core county. corpus masto cleanup among them tonight, it's 22,000.

that's the expectation. something like you're saying in terms of the number is what i think democrats are expecting to get the. if she does, you can do the math. you can see what that would do in terms of putting her ahead of laxalt and again, as are saying, there's a lot of land where we see red counties, but there aren't that many books left. laxalt could get a few out of here. while shaw county, does not look like -- again, it's a blue county, and the vote by mail, in particular, has been decent for cortez masto, not as strong as in clark county but decent. she could game, she's there -- she stands logically to game votes out of acho county. like i said, once all that gets through, you are still talking about 6000 provisional ballots in car county. the provisional ballots typically favor democrats strongly to. to the extent that you can see laxalt gain 1000 or two from the rural areas of the state, the provisional ballots alone from clark county could cancel that out.

there's just a real -- to these 22,000 votes, if they go the way they have been going, if they go the way that democrats have been expecting, it's going to put cortez masto in a position here, where it's very hard for laxalt, very hard to see laxalt catching her. if there is a surprise, if they don't come out the way that they have been coming out, laxalt those better, then that changes the equation completely. but if they go as they have been going, cortez masto will open up a significant lead here. >> what you refresh, we'll come back to that, we'll take a quick break, we'll be right back. gh back get early access to wayfair's black friday sale. save on seasonal decor from $30. washable rugs up to 80% off. and living room seating up to 65% off. search, shop, and save at wayfair! ♪ wayfair you've got just what i need ♪ [coughing] hi, susan. honey. yeah. i respect that.

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strategist to the list cheney campaign. matt, great to see you. so many hours earlier, because i will see you tomorrow morning. we've been talking all night about nevada -- we are going to go to steve kornacki. we see him writing down some numbers. steve, talk to us. >> okay, we just got a vote in from clark county, nevada. it's not reflected yet in our board. it will be momentarily. i can tell you though the batch of 22,000 plus voters in. catherine cortez masto, the democrat, gets 14,084 new votes from the. adam laxalt, the republican, gets 8239. again, that is right at the level, and there are a couple votes for their party candidates. i want to get the exact number here, 671 -- if you give me a second to get the exact number here.

i can tell you the percentage, which is important. 61 to 36%. that is right, she has gotten 61% of the new law here. adam laxalt got 36%. we have talked about the importance to masto of maintaining the numbered that she has been getting. that is right on the number that she has been getting, it's right where democrats were expecting. you see it has been updated in the system, so statewide, there it is, for the first time now since election night, katherine cortez masto has passed adam laxalt, moved into the league, it is essentially a 5000 vote lead, 4982 votes, that is katherine cortez masto advantage statewide, one half of 1%, she moved into the lead, again, this is it in terms of mail ballots. they said tonight would be the last night, that's the final batch, you have 22,000-plus right there, it has totally

changed the leaderboard in this race. masto ahead by 5000 votes, and as i say, what is to come now? i believe that maybe -- there it is, that's the check mark. katherine cortez masto declared by our decision desk the winner of the nevada senate race with katherine cortez masto's victory in the nevada senate race, democrats now have control of the united states senate in shirt. they have their 50 seats with kamala harris tests being the tiebreak in both that guarantees democratic control of the senate for the next two years. >> steve, i was about to ask you what else were expecting of nevada, but it does not matter at this point. we are now calling that catherine cortez masto has been reelected to the united states senate in the state of nevada. this now gives the democrats the 50 seats they require to maintain control of the united states senate.

there still is one son settled race, that is georgia, which will go to a runoff on december six, but this becomes a very different discussion in a midterm election with a deeply unpopular president running a 44%, a whole lot of issues that otherwise we're supposed to give disadvantaged democrats. a historical precedent that causes democrats to lose seats across whatever party controls the white house, to lose seats in a midterm election, the democrats have maintain control of the united states senate. this is a remarkable conversation to be having. >> they have not only defied expectations, they have to fight history. in this victory -- >> it is really something. >> it was an uphill battle for them, nobody expected this. the pundits were calling it a red wave. at some point, republicans thought they would get control of the senate, not only did they stop that trend in the house, as we have been seeing throughout the course of the evening but now with this, holding on to the senate and more importantly, being able to

potentially pick up a seat. they picked up john fetterman, pick the pennsylvania, a significant win for them, given everything we know about the state. now you have raphael warnock holding on to that seat. an incredible dynamic for democratic party over the last couple of months going into the veterans, as we saw tonight. >> jonathan, your take? >> ali, what this also means now with the democrat majority assured, potentially, another see at the december 6th runoff in georgia, president biden's agenda keeps going forward, particularly, when it comes to judicial appointments. the president has been and senate majority leader chuck schumer have been very focused and determined to fill federal court vacancies around the country. and doing that equip faster than donald trump did when he was president. that is vitally important because mitch mcconnell, a senate minority leader, but

when he was majority leader, his number one goal was to remake the federal judiciary in a conservative image. by the democrats, keeping the majority in the senate in the last two years, president biden 's first of two terms, but he has now two more years to get more people, more judges on the federal branch, more democratic appointed judges on the federal branch to counteract what was done during four years of president trump. >> here's what it means for democratic legislative agenda, it is also what it means for progressivism. >> this is huge. i want to underscore jonathan's point here. president biden has put more black women on the federal judicial bunch than any president in history. this is a big deal. i want to give some credit to the people of clark county, particular congressman stephen -- i had him on the show today, had him on the show last

weekend, and he was in clark county will pull this through. i was like, are you sure? you had the numbers? you still feel bought by your chances? he said to me today on air, he said clark county is going to come through. clark county is voting, and we saw kornacki at the big board. clark county has voted, and they have pulled through. this is monumental. we cannot underscore this, and i really think that this bolsters president biden and this white house to really shut down some of this chatter about is joe biden the best candidate to run for president again? should he take a seat back? this is a president that has flipped a seat in the senate, has retained control and potentially is getting another seat. other his leadership, the house is closer than anyone thought it would be. he's gotten an agenda that is quite popular. he gave it the mockery c speech before election day, and many people said that's not what she should do. people came out and voted for democracy and against extremism. if i am joe biden and the

deputy chief of staff, i'm clanking cups on air force one right now. >> i want to go back to steve, we have another call in nevada, and that is the secretary of state, the democrats. chris though ugly are has won that race as well. this is a result of the symbolic job we had, steve? >> that's it, and as we say, we were setting this up where it's pretty clear that wuzhou county, which we will getes from later tonight, it's been going masters where there, not as significantly as it has been, but laxalt himself alluded to it in the state you talked about on air tonight, he alluded to earlier, the mathematical reality that if cortez masto performed with this batch of votes that we just got, as she had been, there was no mathematical way for him to win. so that's where it lands. democrats and a hanging on in nevada. last night, you saw mark kelly

hang on in arizona. democrats get that. you have the outstanding recent georgia, democrats got the flip in pennsylvania. they missed in wisconsin. they would like to unseat ron johnson in, but they got exactly what they needed out of this, which if you take a step back, it's a bigger picture, if you look at the start of this year, coming into the year with joe biden, the approval rating he had, the history the white house party has faced midterm elections, with the fact that in 2021, a few elections, republicans this so will endeavor junior governor toil race, nearly picked off the new jersey gubernatorial race. expectations coming and it is buttery for democrats were obviously very low, and that continue for much of the year. they had that big change in the summer with the supreme court ruling, certainly had an impact on this campaign, and i don't think at the start of the year, a lot of people thought -- you can look at the senate map, it's all complete except for

georgia. i don't think at the start of the year, people thought the senate map this way. democrats ensured control of the senate, obviously, we'll keep control an eye on georgia -- it will not be the and all of senate control. in terms of the board and my focus, it's going to shift to the house. we got a battle of control for the house. that will not be settled tonight. it would not be settled this weekend. that will be settled sometime next week, perhaps, and it may even take longer than the. as i said, there's a rank choice run up in alaska scheduled for november 23rd. that could have something to say about control of the house, so we got on our hands here, a senate that has now been called and a house that still open. i think a lot of people figure that the house would be called on election night and maybe the senate would take a few days. it's the complete opposite. the drama now shifts to the house, and that story is to be continued into next week. >> i was going to say, absolutely remarkable that we would be talking about this a couple days after the election. steve, i don't know if it's possible in the breakdown of

the demographics of the court can tebow, i want to go back to something i'm noticing. clark county delivers this knockout punch, putting democrats in control, but interestingly, i was looking at this earlier today, black folk, 83%, latino vote, 86%. that was interesting because of the narrative that we have been talking about, something you've been reporting on in the runoff to the election about the latino vote. again, very decisive braking for democrats. i don't think that was unexpected. that was expected, but it was the fact that it came down literally to this final batch to determine who gets to control the senate, as a result of this court county, underscores the point that we have been making all along, the black vote, the latino vote playing decisive role for the democratic party and their ability to retain power. >> especially because the fear and part of democrats rolling into the election was not that those voters were briefed from republicans but instead that some of the voters would stay home. i think someone has a question for steve >> i want again,

clark county, congressman stephen horse to. steve, my question for you is, as you look to the house races, which races are you watching most closely? because california, we may not know if it's california, we could be waiting for two or three weeks. is there any indication that you have from folks at home about which races could tell us what the house makeup will look like next week? >> yeah, there. are i should note one piece of news, i see -- these are the list of uncalled as versus. it's 20, it's not 19. in the last couple of minutes, we called another one for democrats. this is the eighth district of colorado, a newly created district because colorado gained a seat the redistricting. so that now brings the count, the running tally here is that democrats now have 205 seats, and the republicans now have in the house 211 seats. there are now 19 uncalled races here. the magic number for democrats

is 13. they need to win 13 of those 19. the magic number for republicans, is seven. we have 19, and you're looking at all of them here. the majority of them now, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten of the 19 are from california. so some of these districts here, there is a clear leader between the democrats and republicans, there's a clear expectation. for instance, maine too has not been called. this is a rank choice voting choice, maine to, but democrats have a sizable lead in this. it's nearly at 50% already. that's the kind of district that democrats are banking on having from this uncalled race list. it's not hard to look at this list and get them up to 215, 216 seats. to get them 2 to 17, to get them to 2:18, which should be a majority, a couple of districts here come to mind in

california. i need to keep an eye on would be the 41st district of california. can convert, along several republican, you see half of the vote tallied here, his district was changed a little bit by redistricting, they give democrats more of a shot. this would be a big upset if democrats won this district. it's an upset they may very well need. the 22nd district of california, central valley, david valley dale, republican congressman, he lost in 2018, won it back in 2020, even though joe biden carried the district decisively. democrats would need to win something like that. if they missed their, they might need to win here the 27th district. this is the rematch of one of the closest races in the country in 2020, but you can see more than half the vote is in. democrats trailing here by ten, you can get some wild swings in the late vote count for california. it had to be a wild one here, but democrats will need to have to pull off a couple of upsets if they're going to get 2 to

18. it is not hard to look at this list and see them get through to 15, to 16, maybe even two 70. to actually get it to 18, i dental had to pull off in one adult districts or a couple of those districts i'm showing you, they'll have to pull off an upset. who's one i think is important, in that 13 district of california, it's basically dead even right now. it will break their way. arizona to, by the way, there are a couple that we showed you earlier, arizona one, this is based in maricopa county. this one got closer tonight with that new vote that we got in for maricopa county. can the democrats hang on there? maricopa county will tell a story. this is pima county the area, arizona six, democrats moving closer. they got to get this one. they need a lot to break their way, but the fact is, it's saturday night after the election, we now know who is controlling the senate, it's not the republicans, is the democrats, and we don't know who's control in the house, and there is a chance it could still be the democrats.

that was not on a lot of people's bingo cards. >> steve, real quick, you almost answered the question that i had, but i am wondering, of the 13 seats -- well, there are 19 still outstanding, of the 19, how many of those are democrats in the league? do you know offhand? >> we can go through them quickly here. look, in alaska, this is the wreck choice voting or an off. peltola is one democrat, she's in the lead. she did win the rank choice runoff in the summer. if the same dynamics persist, that could be a win for democrats. they are clinging to a lead in the first district in arizona. this is again, maricopa county, we were telling you that label in maricopa county, it was a little bit republican tonight. it was enough to make this race that much closer.

it's got to be, for hodge and the democrats, it can't take too many more hits like they took tonight, his lead down to 2000 votes. they're already trailing in the six, leading that their district. excuse me, they're not leading in that their district, their leading in the ninth district. josh harder, the incumbent. the 13th is close. you can see the 21st district, i don't know why we don't have a picture, but -- >> he's camera shy. >> if you're a democrat, you're banking on winning this one and don't want to sweat in the end. 22nd, we show you the 27th. here's an interesting one. if jay cheng can come back and unseat michelle's deal here, that would be an upset, the kind of result that could bring democrats towards two 70. katie porter, the incumbent, the 47th, has been building a lead in the last couple of updates. mike levin, in the 49th, has moved ahead more than 40 points.

-- new mexico, as well, almost all of the voters in. the democrats up over 1300 votes right there. new york, 22, the democrats are trailing. they are hoping that there are mail ballots from syracuse that could make a difference there, but that one might be a stretch if they could ever get it. that is one of those upsets that could help them get to 218 if you are a democrat. here is one where a democratic incumbent was defeated in a primary, some democrats said that this might make this a tougher district for them to carry. that might be bearing out right here. they trail in oregon's fifth and sixth district, clinging to a lead right here. so, that is the field of play here in terms of deciding how's control. >> steve kornacki, thank you for walking us through all of those numbers. we knew that if you sat there and continue to refresh that

eventually those numbers would be there. >> amazing, thank you for doing that for us. we do have something, as steve just outlined, there are a lot of house races. it also becomes a question of georgia. there is actually a senate race in georgia in december, now, no longer will be about control of the senate but it is still a seat and the senate. we are going to discuss how that becomes relevant, and what energy goes into that. that has been one of the most expensive races, possibly the most expensive race ever. raphael warnock and the interesting herschel walker. we also are hearing that senate majority leader chuck schumer will be speaking very shortly, probably within the next 15 or 20 minutes. we will go to him on that happen. and i think we have -- >> we do, we have it claimed presidential historian. thank you for waiting, because we needed to talk to you! out of all the people, this is

history happening in realtime. it is without precedent, just talk to us -- i have got to tell you, you are one of the only people who in the run up to this told me, i am optimistic, and you had enough optimism to go around. i am glad you are here with us tonight. >> glad to be right, thank you alicia. we are exactly, what you are saying, we are watching history being made right at this moment, because look at the pattern of history. you know, we have been saying it for weeks, first term presidents, their midterms, they have these terrible experiences, reagan and 82, clinton in 1994, barack obama in 2010, setbacks in congress, instead what we have got is joe biden and the democrats, they are having the best midterm performance in a congressional election of anyone in the last 90 years. and the additional thing is that biden did not have the benefit that other presidents

have had when they were able to buck the trend. 1934, roosevelt, franklin roosevelt had the new deal. it helped him do better in the midterms. john kennedy, 1962, cuban missile crisis, helped him. 2002, george w. bush, national solidarity after 9/11, instead joe biden went against the advice of a lot of his advisers and said the issue this year's democracy. it is in danger. if you tell that to americans, they will see how serious this is, and they will do the right thing. look at what has happened. >> i have got to ask you, as someone who has studied other u.s. presidents, what does this moment mean, not just for joe biden right now, his legislative agenda, we are going to talk about all of that. but his legacy as a president. >> he is now towering as of tonight. he has managed to buck that trend. he has a chance to do a lot of things during these next two

years. remember bill clinton in 1994, we couple of months later, he was at a press conference, and a reporter said to bill clinton whose stature had shrunk because he lost congress for the first time in decades, the reporter said clinton, mister president, are you relevant? we had never seen that before in american history. how this have been a wrote tonight, if joe biden and the democrats had been turned back, people would be saying that republicans had cut this presidency and a half. instead, joe biden is the one who is able to reverse that historical trend, it didn't happen by accident, so this is going to be a night in history that is not only historically important, but one more coincidence, alicia. we all remember two years ago, election week, trump versus biden. joe biden was declared president elect on the saturday of election week.

we are learning the same thing about the congressional elections, as far as the senate is concerned, tonight. >> let's just dig down on that a little bit. because on the combination of a first term midterm election, which usually goes against the party that holds the white house, and the presidents unpopularity, which is about where bill clinton's was right before the 1994 midterms. it is actually low compared to recent presidents. so the idea that joe biden pulls as an unpopular president is a statistical fact. it may not make sense, and historically, it may not make sense. george h. w. bush maybe the best example of this, or jimmy carter. presidents who are substantially more popular later because people look back and said hey, joe biden brought america's biggest adversary to their knees during his administration. he did this, he did the other thing. but in this moment, on this day, joe biden remains underwater in terms of his popularity in america. i think there are a lot of people watching tonight who

don't want to hear that and they are saying that they have almost held the house, they have won the senate again, why is everyone saying that joe biden is unpopular? >> and why did this all happen? there were many people who said joe biden, don't talk about democracy, it is too abstract, instead talk about inflation, or national security. other issues that are making people suffer, for sure. what biden said, i remember, this guy was a history major, university of delaware, which i think is not a bad thing. he was able to see that this could be a turning point. that the country could be teetering between democracy and authoritarianism. in the same way in the 1860s, we were teetering between slavery and freedom, or 1940, when americans were deciding, do we want our next president to fight it off hitler, and the imperial japanese fascists around the world? biden was able to see that, and made a gamble, but the gamble was, if you tell americans that you can't have a good economy,

and national security if you lose your democracy, even in 2022, people will get it. well, i think the evidence of this week is that people did get it, and another amazing thing is that look at the last four or five days, there were such predictions of possible violence, election deniers all over the place, chaos, the amazing thing, wonderful news is look how much of these past five days have resembled calmer times in american history. i pray that we see that go through. >> michael, you have talked about that it was not hyperbole to say that democracy was on the ballot. it is something you are talking about right now. we are talking about who has won in the big sense, not in the parties, but how american democracy has won over the past couple days. but the conversation alicia and i were having earlier about trump versus trumpism, yes, the candidates who embraced a

narrow definition of trumpism that included election denial loss tonight. including, as we just saw, finally, adam laxalt who was a big election denier. we may see kari lake fall, the republican one that was running, also an election denier. everywhere you looked, across the ballot, election deniers. the big name election deniers. whether secretary of state, or gop's lost. and the question goes about where we move forward here, as a country, where we move forward after this particular election. the losers. does this put an end to the election denialism that had contaminating our politics for the last two years? >> i think so. i think what we are seeing tonight and this whole week is that there is a very good chance that a couple years from now, maybe even sooner, trumpism will be a perfect in the way that joe mccarthy was in the early 1950s. a lot of republicans felt the way to get elected in let's say,

1951, was to imitate joe mccarthy and say that there are all sorts of hidden communists around the united states, and in the state department. and slander innocent people who did not deserve it. and then suddenly, in 1954, mccarthy went too far, and every republican was hell-bent to show that he, or she did not accept joe mccarthy, and was someone who is very different. same thing with republicans the second after richard nixon resigned over watergate in 1974. so, if this happens, you could see donald trump as a negative role model among republicans, and this is the way the party has changed. if they think they are going to lose an election so badly as they did in 2022, that they can't even rely on the normal historical pattern of a first term president losing a midterm election, that is going to send

a big shock to a lot of republicans who are going to have to run in the future, and saying maybe this is the time to cut our losses, cut donald trump from this party. >> michael, it is jonathan in washington, i want to keep talking about the good news that you are just talking about here about, we were all chilled by the threats of violence and the fear of violence on election day, and after election day. by and large, it did not materialize. thank goodness. what i am wondering is, is this -- or have we really begun the march back from the brink that our democracy was teetering on up until election day? >> i think that we have receded from the brink, i think that we should at least heed the sigh of relief tonight, and enjoy this evening, and say, you know, democracy is triumphing, and the good judgment of the american people is manifesting itself. but at the same time, jonathan,

i think that you will not disagree with me that we have to remember that what benjamin franklin said, which was that we have a republic, if we can keep it. well, we have been very much challenged in the last year or two. we almost lost it on the 6th of january last year. this is about the best news for anyone who loves democracy, what has happened this week, but we can't assume that therefore, we can relax. we always have to be vigilant. >> go ahead -- >> i want you to go ahead, jonathan. but i just want to remind people that we are going to be hearing from chuck schumer now who is likely to retain his position as majority leader in the senate. that will be coming up very shortly. go ahead, jonathan. >> michael, to continue on this democracy being pulled back from the brink, i was talking to a colleague of mine at the washington post. they brought up a very interesting trend that he was noticing. i would like to get your

thoughts on this. the notion that, and he included the russian retreat from kherson, bolsonaro's defeat in brazil, the results that we are seeing here, in the united states after election night, that it is not only that democracy is winning out here, but it appears after what it felt like years of autocracy, of autocrats, and authoritarians being on the march, and on the advance, it seems as though democracy, people who want democracy, who want to have a say, are pushing back. all over the world, it seems. >> yes. and people who love democracy as you do, and i do, and everyone who are on with tonight, our friends up there, you know, here is a situation where we always assume that people of freedom and are willing to do a lot to preserve it. i think that none of us doubted, even before tonight, that a

majority of americans do not want to talk rusty. they don't want authoritarianism. and i think that this week is almost a morality play that shows americans at their best. and goes absolutely to the beginning of american history and shows why american soldiers and american people, and gettysburg, on d-day 1944, and also in demonstrating for equal rights at salma, and a lot of other places, this is the best of america, and we are seeing americans saying that we are in the majority, and we are keeping congress. >> you are in the business of telling people tales and stories, and writing these first drafts of history. given all of the conversations that we have had since january 6th, and perceiving the attacks on democracy, and the criticisms of joe biden, and the way he approached it, and the idea that the chattering class carried on about democracy while people were worried about inflation, given

that this democracy issue was an undercurrent for a lot of voters, and that they have rejected some element of it, what does the battle for democracy look like now, what does it look like for those who chose to stand in that gap who will continue to do so for the next two years, does it change? does the messaging change? what relief do we take from the fact that some people heard that message and voted on it? >> well, i think that what we have to say is that election deniers are in the minority, and they will now be scored. if we were talking a we are ago, at least i would have said that there is a decent, horrible chance of after election day, a lot of losers of elections, republican losers will claim that they won, and they will encourage people to go into the streets, and there will be chaos. all that did not happen because americans expressed themselves so strongly this week in saying, we want democracy, even in some cases where they might have disagreed with the ideology of

the people that they were voting for. and in that sense, the should be a night that we always remember. it is almost like 1989, for those who can remember that, when it's wbts ed -- >> i just have to interrupt you for a second, i am sorry to interrupt you, we are just going to listen to schumer. >> it is a great win to the american people. with the races now called in arizona, and nevada, democrats will have a majority in the senate, and i will once again be majority leader. this election is a victory. a victory, and a vindication for democrats, our agenda, and the america, and the american people. there are three things that help the senate secure the majority. one, our terrific candidates. two, our agenda, and our accomplishments. and three, the american people rejected the anti-democratic extremist maga republicans.

let me talk about each quickly, our candidates, it catherine cortez masto, mark kelly, maggie hassan, and john fetterman, and raphael warnock are just fine human beings who really care about people, who have the understanding of how to get things done, and those who have been in the senate have already accomplished great things. they believe in our democracy, and public service, and they are going to get a lot done for their states in the next six years. contrast are candidates with some of the people they ran against. our strong candidates beat some very flawed challengers who had no faith in democracy, no fidelity to truth, or honor. and even when the polls looked bleak, our candidates never gave up, and never lost faith. as the maga republicans stoked fear and division, democrats were talking about how we

delivered on issues that matter to people. i think one thing about the prognosticators missed was that and all of the incendiary ads that blanketed the airwaves for weeks, people knew the democrats were getting things done for them. that is the second reason we won. our accomplishments and achievements. the american people believed in what we got done. and it stood in contrast to the other party. so many of the things we did, getting the cost of prescription drugs low, taking on the big oil companies and getting home heating prices low, taking on the nra and doing something rational about guns, helping our veterans who were exposed to the burn pits, and getting the chips act done which is going to bring thousands, and thousands of jobs to america, and stop china from dominating that industry. so, we have got a whole lot of things done.

we took on the special interests, and we delivered for the american people, and they knew it. and finally, the third reason, and one other thing we did, which i cannot forget, we staunchly defended a woman's right to choose. because the american people turned out to elect democrats in the senate, there is now a fire wall against the nationwide abortion ban threat that so many republicans have talked about. so, we got a lot done, and we will do a lot more for the american people. but finally, and maybe most important of all, the american people rejected the, soundly rejected, the anti democratic, authoritarian, nasty, and divisive direction the maga republicans wanted to take our country and. from the days of the big lie, which was pushed by so many, to the threats of violence, and even violence itself against

poll workers, election officials, and electoral processes, and of course the violence on january 6th, all of that bothered the american people. and another thing that bothered them just as much, too many of the republican leaders went along with that, didn't rebut that violence, and some of them even aided, and abetted the words of negativity, and other things. when i talk about violence, i mean violent language, i mean violence against other people, where was the condemnation from the republican leaders so often missing from so many of them. that bothered, that bothered them the american people. so, the american people are not happy with republican leaders who condone, and even supported this nasty, poisonous rhetoric. and i am making a plea to my republican colleagues, we can disagree on so many issues,

that is fair. but let's not have this divisive, negativity, let's not have the condemnation of viciousness, and even violence against poll workers, against so many others. let us try to come together. finally, some thankyous. thank you to our senators who ran a great campaign, and welcome to peter wells, and john fetterman who will be our new senators. i am confident in georgia that reverend warnock will be reelected, and back in the senate, he has done so many good things already. i want to particularly thank gary peters, the chair of our democratic senate campaign committee, and christy roberts, and all of the great staff of the the sec. without this, it would not have happened. and finally, my friend harry reid, he may be gone, but he is still with us. his legacy in nevada continues

to shine bright as the lights on the las vegas strip. and thank you to all of the grassroots groups that stood for america, that said we are going to get things done. thank you to the millions of people who supported us, and the thousands of volunteers and organizers who were there. i look forward to working with president biden, vice president harris, and god willing, a democratic majority in the house to continue delivering meaningful results for american families, as we continue in the new senate. ready for a few questions, if anybody has them. thank you. >> [inaudible]. >> we always had much greater faith in our victory and a lot of the prognosticators. the people understood that inflation is a problem, but

they understood it is a worldwide problem. all over the world, not caused by joe biden, but caused by covid, and the bottlenecks that covid caused. and they saw the democrats were doing something against inflation, getting prescription drug prices lower, getting heating costs lower, lowering the cost of health care, and in the longer run, dealing with the supply chain problems that caused cars, and appliances, and other things to go up. so, we had faith that we were talking to what the american people really cared about. and we knew that the negativity, the nastiness, the condoning of donald trump's big lie, and saying that the elections were rigged when there is no proof of that at all, we've heard the republicans not help them. yet too many of them other candidates fell into those traps. >> all right, that is senate majority leader chuck schumer delivering a speech after learning that it has been called that the democrats will hold control of the senate in this next session.

this is after senator catherine cortez masto was reelected in about of this evening. we have been waiting for that. there were a number of ballots that went in from clark county, which is las vegas, and those were expected to break for catherine cortez masto, they did, and as a result, and bc was able to call the election in nevada for cortez masto and decide control of the senate will remain with the democratic party. now, there is still one race unsettled, that is georgia, that is going into a runoff. because that could have 50% of the vote there, but the control of the senate now does not depend on that race. it doesn't make it any less interesting, an important, it just makes it different. even, this has been quite an hour to have watched what happened. >> a historic hour, because i think for us, it crystallizes a lot of what we have been talking about over the past two years. the democracy, the debate where we go from here with election deniers, more importantly, i think what it means for the balance of power for democrats on issues like reproductive

rights. it was something that chuck schumer just singled out, saying it was an important issue. it is safe to say that dobbs changed everything. that decision changed everything. you think about the knock off effect. samuel alito, and the decision he wrote with the dobbs decision, what this means now with the democrats controlling the senate, more judicial nominations. joe biden now, if they do pick up the seat in georgia, they have 51 seats in the senate. they will be able to accelerate the rate of judicial nominations. that is something the republicans and the conservative movement in this country has been focused on for many years. there is no reason why joe biden now cannot accelerate that with his control. this is power that means substance, not just symbolic power, but it actually is now going to have real world consequences for the americans who turned out and voted as a result of the dobbs decision. >> and about those americans, it strikes me that when i was in the bad, and i was interviewing senator masto, i asked her because she was running against unattached election denier, someone who led donald trump's efforts in the state in 2020 to overturn

the results of the election, i said what are you going to do? she said voters. i need voters to go out and vote. they are our backstop. and i pushed her, and she said no, voters are a backstop. i think that what you have watched play out tonight's voters across this country be that backstop for them. >> for democracy. that is exactly what it is supposed to be, and that is exactly what they did. >> quick symbolic thing, mark kelly, i mean, you have mark kelly, catherine cortez masto, and raphael warnock, the diversity of these three candidates being the ones to get the democrats cross the finish line should not be lost on anyone tonight. >> we are going to take a quick break, our coverage of the 2020 midterms continues in just a moment. moment

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continuing coverage of the midterm elections. i am ali velshi here in new york with my colleagues, alicia menendez, and in washington, jonathan capehart. we have got some breaking news for you tonight. democrats will retain control of the united states senate. that is after just within the last hour we received new results out of clark county, nevada. the home of las vegas. and we see news projects that