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new reaction and new fallout today as democrats clinch control of the u.s. senate. the critical development now dominating headlines and some of the biggest papers across this country. democratic seven are katherine cortez masto's victory in nevada late last night secured control for her party. she's expected this week in las vegas later on this hour. the win in nevada now gives democrats 50 seats and republicans 49. there's still a chance for that majority to grow next month senate runoff in georgia between democratic incumbent raphael warnock and republican herschel walker. it could give democrats 51 seats. earlier today on and be seen as, senators on both sides of the aisle acting to the result. >> when democrats deliver, democrats win. we got out there, we thought for working people. that's the heart and soul of the democratic party. and, the voters said, yeah, that is what we want.
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>> you know, elections are about winning. and so, if folks want to look at these election results and decide that's where you want to continue to be, then we are not gonna do well. >> meanwhile, control of the house is still up for grabs as 20 races remain on call, republicans between seven of these twin back control the house. democrats need 14. it comes as yet another trump backed republican is now lost. nbc news projects marie perez will win washington's third congressional district, this over joe can't. that seat was previously held by republican, butler, who is out stud in the primary by that trump backed candidate after voting for impeachment. at this hour, nbc news estimates republicans will win majority with 219 seats to democrats to 16. but with a margin of four seats error. democrats are gonna have a potential path to victory still. earlier today, house speaker nancy pelosi weighing in. >> the outcome, or on the path
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to taking our country to a better place than with being dragged down by the other side. so, we'll see. i'm disappointed what happened in new york, that four votes could make the difference at the end of the day. but we haven't given up. >> joining us now, nbc's in las vegas, curly is also covering the president for us on a trip to indonesia. ladies, welcome to you both. let's take a look at the front page of las vegas review-journal, it sums up the big story as we go to stephanie, there in las vegas. this must be a big day for nevada democrats. what are you seeing there? >> it is a big day for them. it's not altogether surprising day for those people that were following the numbers, you know, adam laxalt had a 20,000 plus vote lead on election night. but then the stakes started going through those mail-in ballots that were heavily for
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cortez masto and then tipped over the top. and today, nevada has kept the senate in democrat's hands. >> so i really for democrats. against the odds, retaining control of the senate for two more years. four days after the election, nevada finally clearing most of its mail-in ballots. and when the dust settled, katherine cortez masto's, edged out her publican opponent, adam laxalt. senate majority leader, chuck schumer, sounding triumphant. >> this election is a victory. the american people rejected the anti-democratic extremist maga republicans. >> late friday, mark kelly, won his senate race. a rebuke he says of those who deny the results of the last election. >> we've seen the consequences that come when leaders refused to accept the truth and focus more on conspiracies. >> with at least 50 seats and vice president kamala harris's tie breaking vote, democrats keep control of the upper chamber. regardless of the outcome of
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georgia senate runoff, slated for december 6th. >> are you ready to do this one more time? >> december the 6th, we have to get out and vote. >> holding the senate this president biden and his party control over the legislative agenda there. and critically, judicial confirmations, including the supreme court, if another seat opens up. and if democrats hold georgia and hit 51 seats, they have more power over key committee assignments. both parties now waiting to see who will take control of the house. nearly two dozen seats still remain up for grabs. republicans are much closer to the 2:18 needed for control, but it is not out of reach for the democrats. >> cortez masto, that wind, really, alex, it's where i am right now, las vegas, broke heavily for her. she is gonna be giving a speech at 9:30 this morning, to a contingency that helped her win this, the unions, including the very powerful culinary workers union, as well as latinas.
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alex? >> i figured you were there for that reason and not because you came out of the bellagio casino. anyway, thank you so much, my good friend. appreciate that. president biden is celebrating his party's a big win while on his whirlwind trip to asia. nbc's -- is with the president in bali. carol, welcome, what are you hearing from president biden about all of this? >> well, alex, the president paused his meetings with world leaders to come out and stand before the cameras, take a bit of a victory lap. he congratulated senate majority leader, chuck schumer for winning the senate majority. he also praised what he said was the quality of democrats candidates. take a listen to the president. >> i'm gonna tell you what, congratulations [inaudible] focusing now on georgia but. [inaudible] and i know that
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[inaudible]. i'm not surprised, i'm incredibly pleased. and i think it's a reflection of the quality of our candidates. so, i feel good, i'm looking forward to it. >> the president also took credit for his agenda, democrats agenda propelling democrats to victory and saying that that was the reason that democrats ultimately won control of the senate. saying that there wasn't a single democratic candidate out there who wasn't running on his agenda, alex. >> okay, let's look ahead together to tomorrow. as you know, the president sits down for the pretty high stakes meeting with the chinese president xi. now the democrats have secured control of the senate, does that give president biden leverage during those discussions? at least in the tenor of things? coming from a position of even greater power? >> you know, it's a great
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question. certainly the white house feels that on some level it does. that the president, if you are going into this meeting with the chinese president xi jinping, their first face-to-face meeting since president biden took office, that if he was doing that on the heels of a big red wave and democrats getting wiped out in these midterm elections, that that would potentially have president xi seeing the president as weak and. that is not the case, the president himself said that he feels like he's entering in a stronger position. take a listen to him. >> i know i'm coming in strong, i'm gonna need that, i know she jinping, i've spent more time with him than any other world leader. i know him well, he knows me. we have very little misunderstanding. we just have to figure out where the red lines are. >> now, these are two leaders who know each other well, president biden has said many times what they spent a lot of time together when president biden was vice president and president xi was poised to become china's next leader.
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so, the president is basically making the case that he knows him well, they are going to have very candid conversations. it's worth noting, alex, the white house is setting low expectations for this meeting. saying that they are not going to have big announcements coming out of this, there's not gonna be a big joint statement that's going to make a big difference. it's essentially two leaders, sitting down, face to face, exchanging views on a range of issues, everything from taiwan to trade to the economy, to other issues and trying to figure out where each other stands and what their staff can go ahead and try to work on. whether there are issues which they can compromise, or if they can just reach an understanding on a lot of these issues, because relations have been at a significant low, really the lowest they've been for many decades now. so, they're trying to just get this relationship, which is one of the most important bilateral relationships in the world, set on a better footing here. >> yeah, get the conversation started, it'll probably be the first of many. okay, thank you so much for
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that, all the way from bali, indonesia. appreciate it. joining me now is don calloway democratic strategist and founder of the national voter protection fund. susan, republican strategist and david jolly, former republican congressman from florida. both of the latter nbc political analyst and my sunday family. hi, you guys. here we are, sitting here last week, susan, did you first see these midterm results? >> no. i thought that the republicans would do better in the house. i thought for sure we would be saying this is a house majority. i did say because republicans only needed five seats, i thought maybe if it is going to be close, the senate would've tilted the other way. but there is something, and that was because i was basing it on perhaps old school historic, you know, history and it being a referendum on the house and power. but the party in power in the white house.
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i would like to tip my hat to david, because for months he has said that democrats have to make this about a choice and not a referendum. and he was right. i also say to the democrats, they did a great job staying on their message. i don't think enough credit has been given to them in their campaigning efforts to stay on message. they did a great job and follow david jellies lead, which was the wide thing to do. >> very nice, were applauding you, you can brush off your shoulders like that, i got this. let me ask you though some specifics. if you take a look at the number of trump endorsed candidates from loss, david. newly-added to that list, maga republican joe can't, who lost, flipping the key washington state house into the democrats. then adam laxalt, who bossed his lead for the nevada senate. we know is gonna be competitive in that state for sure. do these results surprise you? >> not entirely.
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very kind of susan, we all reach in the dark with some of our prognosticating. but we also knew over the last two years that we consistently had seen voters come out of the woodwork to voice their opposition to the direction of republicans and support for democrats. that kansas abortion vote, it wasn't about candidates, it is probably the biggest signal we saw that invalidated what we saw this weekend. the one thing i would say, we know now the study theme that trump maga republicans struggling in general elections. what i think we have to be careful about though is this is not the fault of donald trump's recruitment. this is the adoption by the party of trumpism and the reshaping of the party under donald trump, right? kent was nominated by the voters in his district, he might have been endorsed by donald trump, same with herschel walker, herschel walker was the nominee of the
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republican party, so, the party has fully changed. and it is not as simple as saying this is donald trump's fault. this is a choice that republicans have made and the nation continues to reject the republicans choice. >> so, we're keeping an eye, any moment now, nevada senator, catherine cortez masto's gonna deliver her victory speech. on the flip side, don, what democrats do right? >> you know, democrats have quietly and silently ketchup the beating drum, they kept up the pace of organizing, of registering voters, of letting people know that there's choices to make an midterms and that you can, if you keep up this work, and you keep up this organizing, you can quietly, if not completely defy, even quietly start to reshape the side of history, particularly this history susan was talking about that shows that in fact you can be the general mid term trends going against the party in power. i think they did a lot of stuff right in georgia, but they made one substantial mistake. that was when it comes to
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raphael warnock and herschel walker. herschel walker, deeply and serious candidate, deeply unqualified person, but herschel walker looks and sounds a whole lot like a whole lot of real folks in the state of georgia. black democrats have to remember, and democratic party has to remember that democrats, excuse me, the georgia so much more than metro atlanta, and herschel walker sounds and looks like a whole lot of those people, despite him being objectively unqualified, observably stupid, as the great dave chappelle said last night. we have to find a way over the next three weeks to figure out how to reach those people and let them know about the choice, not just about the horse race of raphael warnock versus herschel walker. >> yeah, guys, standby before ask more questions. we're gonna go right on listen to senator chuck schumer, of new york, he is -- take listen to what he's saying now. >> the end of democracy. when you engage in violence or accept violence, such as on january 6th, that is the, on the edge, of what being on the
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edge of autocracy. one republican leaders, i think, so, this bother the american people, they said, what is going on here? this is not the america we know and love, where we deny elections, where we harass poll workers, where we threatened or actually use violence. not just on january 6th, but against poll workers and others who make the democracy work. the american people said, that is not for us. and i think what's, what even bother the american people more was the fact that republican leaders, to many republican leaders who may not have been maga themselves, that nothing against this violence. at best, they were silent and did not condemn it. at worst, they encourage. too many republican leaders actually encouraged the threats of violence, the violence, the denial of an election. and so, the american people said, whoa, this ain't for us.
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and that was not just democrats. independents and many republicans said it. it is one of the main reasons we won. for those, we were on the edge of a top receiver. and thank god the american people pulled us back in this election. let's not forget, for those of you who doubted the strength of this democracy, it is not as fragile as some make it out to be. the roots of democracy are deep and strong and real with the american people. >> so, david, it kind of feels like chuck schumer was listening to you before he started talking there. are you saying exclamation point, exactly, to what he just said? >> yes, look, i think two things here. one, this is the second day in a row chuck schumer has spoken. i think democratic leadership needs to claim victory and claim the mantle of setting the agenda, framing this however they want. this was not a split decision,
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this was a huge historic win for democrats. i also think what he's saying is democracy was on the ballot. i mean, joe biden made that bet. and a lot of people scoffed at him. voters were listening. finally, alex, i think we also saw, the should be reassuring to so many people, particularly the professionals in the consulting space. voters demonstrated that they can distill multiple complex issues at the same time and make a rational judgment, right? this is an election cycle with election on the ballot, with jobs, with trumpism, with health care, you name it. with voters showed us is, hey, we're smart enough to handle tough issues and figure out who we want to trust to lead us forward out of this. >> so, don, your response to all of this, we didn't expect to have checked from every part of this panel, i guess he is now, because he popped up for us. when you listen to what he said, how encouraged are you, i mean, the democrats are in control of
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the senate by this much, probably going to lose the house by this much, i mean, it's a state that, yes, he's absolutely right, everything he saying. however, this is not some fabulous mandate that's been given, it's just like an incremental step in the right direction? >> it is an incremental step, and chuck schumer is doing his job of dictating a unifying message about letting out the agenda and the path forward. but i'm a black man in the same country as chuck schumer wakes up and. here's the way i see the world, and a whole of a lot of other folks like us see the world, this is the first national elections since bodily autonomy is moved from birthing people, this is the first election since one of our major two political parties decided they'd rather burned down the entire american experiment rather than let everyone participate equally. the first national referendum since then, 72% of white women and 73% of white men in georgia voted against that. we did not see any key democrat
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who was barely hanging on line by a landslide. we saw several quality democrats be destroyed, chris jones in arkansas, and up in new york. there should not be 75% of white americans who still vote on the side of objective white supremacy. and as we've seen in these shootings that have unfortunately interrupted our political discussion week after week, this white supremacy, this white christian nationalism, these evil spirits, they will ultimately destroy us all. if i understand chuck schumer, he wants to do, he has to do his job of projecting leadership coming in the next year's the democratic party, but these margins should not be this close when there was such a clear and objective choice on the table about what we're gonna do is a country going forward. i hope that we can continue to see these trends chip away. but the problem for democrats, the problem for oppress people in this country throughout the world is that we have to continue these exhausting fights in order to gain just marginally at the edges. we're still fighting with people who overwhelmingly want to maintain oppressive system. >> to which i say all of that, both preach, and a man, my
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friend. i'm so glad for everything you said. very quickly to you, susan. when it comes to josh hawley, here's the truth he put out last night, which was the old parties dead, time to bury it and build something new. define the old party. where is he coming from? how far back is he going? >> i make no attempt to understand his mind. i will not go, i don't want to get it. but i can tell you this, right now, if you want to future in the republican party, you have to get and distance yourself from donald trump. he is of the past. maybe not the immediate past, but going forward, people are running or going to be running away. if you're lindsey graham and you just want to be on his golf course and enjoy it last couple of years with donald trump, that's fine, you can stay behind him and that's where some republicans will find themselves. but i think, you know, that statement with holly was probably pointing fingers that mitch mcconnell. i would argue that mitch mcconnell had a more right on
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aligned with the former president did underperform. those who are talking about the future, who manage their states well, they overperformed. the american people want ideas, they want to future. >> joining me now is stephanie grisham, former white house press secretary and communications director for president trump, and chief of staff to first lady, melania trump. welcome back, stephanie, good to see you. so, donald trump appears to not be taking the so well. he's been renting, as you know, on his social media platform, including making new baseless came's of the, quote, electron, there is a misspelling there, was stolen from his preferred candidate in arizona like masters. how do you work so closely with the former president, what does this tell you about his state of mind right now? >> well, this is something that is completely expected when it comes to donald trump. whenever, you know, something blows back on him, it looks like it could potentially be his fault, he deflects, he
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starts throwing out conspiracy theories. this is just how he works. i'm from arizona, actually, i have been really interested in those races, of course, and i'm really really proud of the voters there, and across the country who have rejected, you know, maga extremism. and i think, i just have to say, you know, the voters have spoken. i think my party, the republican party, needs to do some real soul searching. are you gonna go with the voters, the people who elect to, hire you? or are you going to stick with one man? >> very good question, to be honest, you're right. cbs news reporter, robert costa, tweeted this, dark time in trump's inner circle, spoke to several longtime friends, donors, and aids in the past 24 hours. many say he's listening to very few people, isolated, and mean spirited about his potential rivals. several of them say they're tired of his ransom and are avoiding him. then you responded on twitter writing, boy have i seen this movie before. stephanie, expand on that, okay? what is going on in trump world?
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and how many more times can people in the world watched this movie? >> well, that we literally from bob costas gave me ptsd, not to take ptsd lightly. honestly, i have seen that so many times. and when things get tough, the inner circle turn on one another. because, you know, you have to understand, trump has no problem yelling at whoever is around him. so, in order to avoid being, you know, at his eye or. you turn on people. so, everyone right now is trying to find people to blame. trying to say how it's not their fault. while also trying to figure out ways to get him back into the good graces, i think, of republicans across the country. because if you think about it, the people who have stuck it out with him, certainly past january 6th, in my opinion, they are not gonna have anywhere else to go. so, they need him. they need him to continue on to announce so they can continue to line their pockets and stay
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relevant. >> who are some of those people, stephanie, those that you say have stuck with them after january six? >> you're gonna be real shocked by this, didn't really talk to me anymore, i don't know completely the inner circle. you know, you definitely have still dan scavino there, i've seen that david bossy is still hanging around, boris epshteyn is still hanging around, i think he has, you know, his couple of very odd lawyers who are hanging around. other than that, i don't know who's advising him. and then you have the people who were just, the people that he did endorsed who are elected to congress. i mean, their star power, they're negotiating power is going down real quick. so, they're gonna need him to stay relevant as well, which is why i think the finger-pointing has started. which is unfortunate, because mcconnell spent over $400 million on horrible candidates. he talked about that he is worried about quality candidates. so, the finger-pointing started. we'll just see where it goes.
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i'm very interested to see what happens on tuesday. >> we teased this, given your former relationship with the former first lady, the new york times reports that trump was privately spreading blame, including to sean hannity and the casino mogul, steve when, the endorsement of mehmet oz, the defeated pennsylvania senate candidate, he included his wife, melania, among those he complained she offered port vice, according to several people familiar the discussions. i'm curious your reaction to that, specifically about melania, is it unusual for melania to get involved in this? would it be unusual for donald trump to turn on her publicly like that? >> well, i don't know if you saw, he did tweet out that, you know, none of that was true. i suspect she insisted he do that. yeah, she does advise him. i'd have to say, by and large, she has some pretty good instincts. she is the person who, i think the country should think for pence. she is the person who pushed pence as the vp on the trump ticket. so, you know, i'm sure that sean hannity probably really
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wanted oz, and i'm sure melania probably said, you know, listen to sean, you never go wrong when you listen to sean. and it did not surprise me that he's privately angry with her. but, you know, she does not care, i can tell you that right now. she does not get really involved. she knows who she is. and she does not really care, other than the bad headlines about her. >> yeah, okay, well, good for her than. as more republicans are openly blaming trump for the party losses, or at least publicly saying they have to put him in the rearview mirror, here is the question, can this republican party move past him? are you seeing signs that suggested is happening? >> well, yes and no, right? i mean, just look at seen this movie before where the inner circle turns on one another, i've seen this, you know, movie before where everybody gets very angry with donald trump, most notably, of course, january 6th, when lindsey graham was like, i am done with this. mccarthy was openly saying that this was his fault, he needs to
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acknowledge that. and then you saw mccarthy go down in mar-a-lago, wet, three weeks later to kiss the ring. so, i think time will tell, time will tell over the next few weeks. so, i will say because the voters have spoken, and i cannot tell you how proud i am, i have been shouting from the rooftops that i believed in the voters, and i really believed that moderates and independents revolted here against maga extremism. so, because the voters have spoken, i do feel more hopeful. again, these are the people who elected everybody into office. the voters are their bosses. so, i can see, sadly, out of their own self interest and wanting to stay in office, people wanting to move on from donald trump. >> the ad, he is, as you know, prepared to move forward with a special announcement, as he's calling it, tuesday, it's believed to be the 2024 white house bid, announcing that. there are multiple headlines, as many voices in the gop are urging trump to delay an announcement until after the georgia senate runoff. how do you see this playing out?
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any idea of what's going through trump's mind? >> well, i think that he's just absolutely angry and panicked. i imagine, in no, i just saw something before it came on air with you, that he's invited people to come down to mar-a-lago for his announcement. i think he wants to force people to stand with him. i think he wants a big amount of republicans to stand with him, including the people he did endorse and did get elected. i think he wants to show that force of power, and i dare anyone to challenge me. i have a feeling he's gonna try to go back to his 2015 campaign model, you know, i was there from the very beginning, unfortunately. and it is a very small circle. i think he wants to go back to that model. now, it remains to be seen. he can be talked out of things. so, i would urge all media outlets to maybe get off the record guidance and make sure that this is something worth covering and not just going to be him ranting about, you know, stolen elections or malt more lawsuits. >> former white house
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communications director, we're getting some advice on that. let me ask you, taking aim at florida governor ron desantis, all weekend long, a demeaning nickname, threatening to reveal things that, quote, be very flattering, you know, whatever that is. now, there is this new yougov poll that shows republican and republican-leaning independents prefer florida governor ron desantis over trump as the republican presidential nominee in 2024. how worried is donald trump of ron desantis? >> he has always been worried about him. he's younger, people would say he's, you know, more vibrant in certain ways, so, i think he's always been worried about him and now certainly with the way that ron desantis took florida, turning -- county red, i think that shows also you know, that trump is gonna be worried about that. all the positive headlines to, trump hates it when other people get positive headlines and he does not.
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i think it remains to be seen, i mean, i do hope a few of the republicans consider jumping in the mix. i have been saying for months but i do hope desantis gets in there. you know, i think it's been really pretty good that desantis, while trump has been loving all his juvenile nicknames and insults, ron desantis has been sticking to his state and taking care of the hurricane and the issues at the hurricane bruh. he has not been playing into trump's hands. which i think again, the voters like. that's something the voters have shown. they're tired of the rhetoric and the childish chaos. >> yeah, so, lastly, you know, you're gonna force when asked this question. and the other names who want to throw out there? you know, why not ask? >> no, i'm not going to, i'm not gonna go there yet, i think it's interesting, especially with these elections, who might jump in. i think it's been interesting when you see kemp and the wind,
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as well as desantis, those governors as well, they stayed away from extremism, and they took their states. so, maybe something like that, i don't want to name names yet though. >> as soon as you read it, you're welcome to come back, i'll give you the platform to do so. stephanie grisham, good to see you, thank you. meantime, the setup win for democrats and the impact could have on the biden agenda. plus, sort of show you how much fun snl had with the governor's race in arizona. race in arizona.
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republicans 49. with that georgia senate seat heading to a runoff on december 6th. meanwhile, the control of the house hangs in the balance, because right now there is a 219 to 216 split. it is in favor of republicans, counting still underway in 20 house races. and politicians are reckoning with the red wave that did not happen. >> again, it's about our democracy. our democracy was on the ballot, our planet was on the ballot. personal freedom was on the ballot. these three issues are very important to young voters, and they were very important in our success in this election. >> the national stuff happening that i think scared a lot of folks, this extremism that's out there. and that's what this was, this was just a rejection of that extremism. >> let's bring in peter baker, msnbc political analyst, chief white house correspondent for the new york times and co-author of the new best selling book, the divider, trump in the white house, 2017 to 2021. welcome, my friend. you have certainly covered a
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lot of elections over the years. how do you describe this midterm election? >> well, obviously, this is one of the more surprising ones, right? we generally tend to know the direction election is heading by election day. in this case, a lot of people got it wrong. i think, you know, we've seen other surprises as well, it's one thing that makes election day so much fun. all of the predictions, prognosticating, it actually comes to an end and we get real results. we saw surprise obviously in 2016, we saw surprise, i remember, a mid term in 1998 people thought that bill clinton's party would go down in the middle of an impeachment, instead it gained seats. you have to make it clear just how humble we ought to be about making predictions where we don't know what's gonna happen. >> okay, point well taken, we get that. what are the implications of the democrats winning the senate in terms of the biden administration. what do you think the white house is gonna prioritize over the next two years? >> the most important thing they get from having the senate's confirmation, right? the ability to confirm administration officials and
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really importantly to confirm judges and maybe even a supreme court justice in the next two years, we don't know. that is something that was really high on their list. legislation is gonna be hard no matter what. the days of the big sweeping fdr style legislation that biden wanted to do what appeared to be over. with such a narrow majority, the senate was already -- we saw the last two years, if republicans control the house, even, for some reason, the democrats pull it out with just a one or two vote margin, it becomes remarkably harder. i think what they're looking to do is consolidate their gains over the next two years, implement the legislation they've already put in place. if they have a republican house, play against them as a foil the way president clinton and obama did when they lost the midterm house races. >> okay. this next question, i'm gonna apologize in advance, we're not even completely finished with figuring out this midterm election. but how does this emboldened president biden ahead of 2024? do you see any scenario where he does not run or has he set
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this party up well for someone else to pick up the mantle? >> well, i think it does embolden him, obviously. he comes out of last week feeling charged up, he feels like he's a validated after all the naysayers and the second guessers. he can go around and say, see, you know, we did when, we defied history, we did a lot better than anybody expected. it is because of our leadership. that's what he's gonna tell everybody. clearly a lot of strong feelings. people in his orbit right now but i've been talking to the last few days, they're very pumped up, there's almost getting this to their feelings. and therefore, of course he's gonna be emboldened to run again, he's telling us his intention is to run again. it doesn't necessarily mean he's going to. he's gonna tell us as attention is to run again, unless you were to decide otherwise. -- longer than he has to be. and one factor, of course, is it's not something that could change by mid term election, next week, a week to the day, he turns 80 years old. he's already the oldest president history. and there is obvious concern, some democrats that that would be a factor going to 2024.
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for the moment, he has the win in his back, and you hear a lot of democrats who otherwise motives express concerned keeping quiet for the moment. >> peter, my friend, stay right where you are, we're gonna dip in to the newly reelected nevada senator, catherine cortez masto. >> so, women national -- said, i couldn't when, i knew nevada would prove them wrong. because and nevada nobody gets left behind, no one. and that means standing up for our families when no one else will. as a former attorney general, i never ever wavered in my support for our law enforcement and first responders, including our firefighters. they have the toughest jobs in the state, and they keep her family safe. so, thank you for your support in this race. i will always have your back. and i am also standing with the
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people who make this state run, our workers, our essential workers. every day, every day i am proud to call the men and women in organize labor family. you have been a part of my life since i was a child, growing up the daughter of a -- here is what i know. yes, you built this country! you are the essential workers on the front lines every single day, you have protected our workers and their families here in nevada. and i will always fight for you, no matter what. it is about our families. >> to this country for a better life. grandmother from new mexico. and they worked hard, they
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worked hard, and my parents worked hard in this community growing up here to support our family. it is the story of so many latino families across our state. it is the story of so many latino families across the country, right? right. i know, i know my family, not only those that are here today, but those that have passed, would be so proud to see me serving as the first latina in the u.s. senate. [applause] but even prouder to see me every elected. like all of you -- >> so peter, we're gonna keep listening to that control, if anyone watching, i'm, sorry
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there was a lack of sinking up. it was a bit disconcerting to watch, and not here. not the same words coming out of her mouth. that said, peter, how significant is this when yes it's the one that tied everything up, but with the nevada, and everything else, it's been a state that had been reliably in the dems column. and then, it has flipped. back and forth, i mean, how important is nevada now to democrats? >> it's very important. it's not that many folks -- votes for college, obviously, but it's particularly important because it's a harbinger of the future, heavy hispanic population, in nevada, they want to be able to show democrats that they can still appeal to the community not just in nevada but across the country. and it's also one of the earliest primary states so i think when you see the next competition for the democratic nomination whether this time or 2028 you're gonna see a lot of democrats flocking in nevada to
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make sure they are appealing to them as one of the early judges for who can be the nominee for the party. so i think it's important to state, also, not just the time, but if they were to get the georgia runoff, we might have to be one vote, that's important to them, not a single senator who might get in the way, or let's see, joe manchin comes to mind. when we talk about that. >> two more questions that i want to get through. we're gonna try to do that fast. several reasons why the predicted red wave did not happen. but inside and outside the republican party, they're blaming donald trump. you have closely watched trump's political career. what are you hearing, first of all, about his reaction to all of this? >> yeah, i think when you talk about stephanie griffin, he was right. for other people to blame, he never accepts blame. we understand that about him. we write about it in the book, the divider, and every time he has lost he's found someone else to blame. he's called fraud, or unsubstantiated allegations, he even lost an emmy when he was a
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reality tv star tv show, he will never, ever, ever, accept responsibility for anything. but that means that doesn't mean republicans won't get tired of. him we thought republicans would be done with him on january 7th, 2021, and they were. so let's not get ahead of things. he obviously still has a great, you know, appeal to the base of the party and that has been his superpower even after his january 6th riot. but we will see if he is beginning to lose a little altitude here, as people who blame him for what happened last week -- >> which brings me to this, you know he's expected to announce his bid for election next week, but there is a new survey conducted by yougov, and ivan that's 42% of republicans, and republican-leaning independents, would prefer rhonda sanders over donald trump to run in 2024. are the people around trump seriously trying to stop him from this early announcement? does trump not see the gop peril of making his announcement now? >> of, course the republicans are very concerned about him getting in the way of the door to rob.
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even though they're not getting the senate, they want to win the race. it's important to have as many seats as they, can and there and greet at trump for putting his own presidential ambitions ahead of their next election. that doesn't have much of an impact on the former president trump as you know. we saw this two years ago, we're seeing the same thing here. and they've given, that they understand is gonna duel what he's gonna do, and they have to live with it. >> okay, peter baker, always a pleasure, my friend, thank you so much. and there she goes again. chief election denier kari lake striking the same theme today. the arizona republic calls her the last hope for the crowd. but as counting continues, she may not be able to deny her chances slipping away. s slipping away. ♪ kevin! kevin! kevin? oh nice. kevin, where are you... kevin?!?!?.... hey, what's going on? i'm right here! i was busy cashbacking for the holidays with chase freedom unlimited. i'm gonna cashback on a gingerbread house! oooh, it's got little people inside! and a snowglobe.
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it comes six weeks after russia annexed the city and three other provinces. ukrainian officials say there was a worsening humanitarian situation in kherson, amid water and medicine shortages, and destruction of infrastructure. back in the u.s., a terrifying scene in the skies above dallas, way to historic military aircrafts collided and crashed their during a veterans day airshow, killing all six people aboard the plane. no one on the ground was injured, and the investigation is underway to what led to the crash. the head of border security is stepping down. the commissioner, chris magnus, resigned after initially refusing a request by the biden administration to quit. they served in the role since december. back to the election, live pictures of ballots processing in phoenix, and doing now its sixth day, and we still don't know the winner of arizona's governor race. katie hobbs holds a slim laid over kari lake, but there's
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still too many votes left to conclude the hobbs league's concern roundtable. donald trump's false claims of election fraud, accusing election officials of purposely dragging their feet on reported results. >> i consider someone's vote their voice. i think of it as a sacred fold and it's been trampled the way we run our elections in arizona. i've been sounding the alarm for two years, nothing got done, very little got done last legislative session and we need to get in there and restore faith on our elections. >> the later the -- latest data release shows as only 190 ballots lived, lakewood need about 57% of those remaining votes to overtake hobbs. would president biden make calls to victoria's democrats, between meetings on his overseas trips this weekend. today, reporters asked him, whether a strong midterm
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performance puts him in a better position for his face to face meeting tomorrow, with chinese leader, xi jinping. >> i know i'm coming in strong, but i know she jinping, i spent more time with him than any other world leader. i know him well, he knows me, those very few misunderstandings. we just need to figure out where the red lines are. and where the most important things to each of, us next few years. i've always had a straightforward discussion with them. never any miscalculations. >> joining me now ben rhodes, ben served as deputy national security adviser for strategic communications with former president obama. he's now extend political contributor. welcome, back good to see you. the president said he did not need the midterms boost to help this meeting with xi, but it certainly can't hurt. the gop losses, it must feel like a shell lacking of sorts. what message does this send to foreign leaders? how are things different today
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compared to yesterday? >> well, it matters a good bit around the margins. the court issues between the u.s. and china are not going to change because of midterm elections. however, i think american politics is always very closely watched around the world, and a couple things that we'll jump out to people are, joe biden will not be dogged by the with of defeat, and the sense that he's going to be subjected to totaling capacity, to get his agenda moving forward. this will take the senate, that allows them to confirm nominations, keep ambassadors, the wheels of american foreign policy running much more smoothly than if republicans took control. i think also, democracy, american democracy, it has been closely watched. frankly, i think around the world, particularly our allies, midterm election results will be read as americans standing up for democracy, and against some of the extremist candidates on the ballot. i think that the shot around the world, particularly
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democracies. >> several times now, you've heard biden mention establishing his and she's quote,, red lines, and resolving areas of conflict between them. it seems like there is a fair amount of conflict between u.s. and chinese in four interests. is there any common ground? >> first of all it's quite unusual that this is the first face to face meeting that they've had, mainly because of covid and china's zero covid policies, she jinping really not leaving the country until recently. but, i think there is tremendous differences on issues like the future of taiwan, on issues of technology, in the global economy, and obviously on covid policy. in terms of areas of agreement, one place where the obama administration we could find some agreement was on climate change. the need to do something more about climate change. this is coming out of the climate change summit in egypt, and i think the u.s. and china can try to find some common ground there at least in terms of raising ambitions.
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obviously the u.s. wants china to do more, and the china wants the u.s. to do more. but when the relationship is so confrontational and other places, it is harder to find ways to work together. i expect it will be a difficult meeting, i also expect that president biden will be trying to find some common ground on the war in ukraine. and trying to get china to pay more of a role in pressing vladimir putin, to not as to -- escalate these nuclear weapons, to allow food, to get out of russia and into the global market. they're trying to find areas where we can work together even if we don't see things ida. i >> what is your best estimate on where the red line stands on taiwan? what kind of consequences does biden lay out for she? >> well, you know, i think what is so difficult in the united states position on taiwan, is of course, we have a commitment to help taiwan defend itself, but we also don't have a formal at a lot --
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aligns for taiwan, where we would come to their defense militarily. so this ambiguity if china made a move on taiwan, what would the u.s. do? biden has been forward leaning in suggesting we would come to taiwan's military aid. i think the part of the message he wants to deliver to she jinping's, let's keep lines open on this issue. let's try to de-escalate tensions here, if you do make a move on taiwan, not only do we have a military option, but frankly, we could try to marshal a global coalition and impose sanctions on china, in the same way that we have on russia or ukraine. but, i think this is gonna be an issue in the coming years, and it's gonna be of increased tension. china's threats towards taiwan are, its military capabilities, you try to manage that through dialogue. there is no -- lead to war. >> you mentioned it would be a tough meeting, you have observed these tough meetings, what does that look like? play that out for us. what would we see that we are
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not going to be able to see? >> in the room, it's not like they're shutting back and forth here, but you can sense pretty quickly when you don't have an agreement. you come in on a core set of issues and this one would include the biggest issues in the. world ukraine, global caught tummy, climate change. we'll be able to tell out of the meeting when the leaders can come out and they're stressing areas of agreement, if they're announcing perhaps, you know, some future meetings, a future summit between the leaders which has not taken place yet. they will visit either she jinping with the u.s. or president biden to china, and if that suggests momentum in the relationship, if they come out of that meeting, and all the emphasis is on the areas of disagreement, and they can't really identify, here's a joint initiative that we're logical, he is the more that we're doing on something, i think we know this relationship is in a difficult situation. >> okay, never ours though, i love having you on the show, so thank you. new gardening lights for
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