tv Symone MSNBC November 13, 2022 1:00pm-2:00pm PST
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>> greetings. someone finally has control, y'all. i'm excited about this. guess what? we know that some people out there are some celebrating tonight, particularly democrats, because there is a period of relief because they got confirmation that the clinch control of the senate with a win over catherine cortez masto, by the skin of our teeth. we're talking to senator alex padilla of california about how a democratic majority is given new life to president biden's agenda. over in the house, it is still oh so close. there are 20 uncalled races. democrats are still holding out hope that they will keep control of the house. well, we are talking to congressman hakeem jeffries about what lies ahead for lawmakers, particularly when it comes to house leadership. democracy is prevailing, y'all, i'm excited.
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i'm simone sanders townsend and i have something to say. ♪ ♪ ♪ well, it is official, democrats have divide the odds to not only keep the senate majority but still have a chance to expand it. there's still a lot at stake when we talk about the house though, so let's break it all down. first, after a razor thin race, nbc news projects that democratic senator katherine cortez masto has defeated republican candidate adam laxalt, and will continue representing nevada in the senate next session. here's what she had to say to supporters this afternoon. >> listen, to all nevadans, whether you voted for me or not, i will always fight for you. when the national pundits said i couldn't win, i knew nevada would prove them wrong. >> i'd like to note, i was not
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one of those pundits. with that win, democrats have reached the 50 seat majority threshold. but they may not be done yet. in georgia, neither senator raphael warnock nor republican candidate herschel walker reached 50% of the vote. that means, we are going to a runoff on december 6th that will determine whether democrats get a 51 seat majority. both candidates are back on the campaign trail and i think millions more in campaign money will pour into this, race just three weeks away. let me just tell you something, because i'm hearing a lot out there about now that democrats have won the senate, it's all good, they don't need georgia. no! just because democrats have already gained a majority does not mean that the georgia runoff does not matter. because a win here would give democrats more control over committees, judicial confirmations. vice president harris wouldn't have to be tethered to washington, d.c. to break ties. and it would provide important padding in the case of a democratic hold out.
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yes, i am looking at, you senators manchin and sinema. let's look at the house. and pc news has adjusted its house estimate, projecting, let me say that again, projecting that republicans could take a 219 seat majority. with the margin of error of plus or minus four seats. that's important to te, it really means we could be looking at -- this and estimate folks, an estimate, plus or minus four. with 20 races left a, call republicans need to win just seven of them to get to their magic number. democrats, they need 14. that is a long shot, but still a narrow path to the majority. basically, it is possible. when we look at the state level, it's safe to say democracy has prevailed in this election. every election denying candidate running for secretary of state in a battleground state lost. crucially, that means none of them will be overseeing our elections in 2024. after a mid term that through in the face of decades of precedent after young, brothers
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black, footers women voters showed up in droves to protect democracy and might i say our own bodily autonomy, we're going to have narrow majorities in congress and sharply divided politics. even more that now. so, what happens? joining me to discuss, fresh off of winning his own reelection bid against republican mark moyes or, the democratic senator from california, one of them, alex padilla. he is the first latino elected to the united states senate out of that state. welcome to you, senator, and congratulations. very good to see you. i want to get right into it if we can, it's very clear that your victory is one of the victories that helped seal up the senate majority for democrats. but we're talking about a thin margin here. democrats, once again, we'll be relying on reconciliation bills or, for folks at home, bills that could even bypass a filibuster to bolster their democratic agenda. so, what do you think folks in your caucus should prioritize both for the rest of this term
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in the next? we've heard a lot about the debt ceiling as of late. >> well, first of all, thank you, symone, for your congratulations. great to be with you, that is certainly a big day. we've been celebrating history being made in so many races across the country, including proudly my own. and of course, katherine cortez masto's race being called last night. i know she was elated this morning when i talk to her. but this lame duck session, to start, that's what the question is. there's a lot on the agenda. we still have to pass the national defense authorization act. we have to pass an appropriations bill before december 15th and avoid a government shutdown. we have commitments to codify marriage equality and into federal law. and we have not given up hope on making progress in immigration reform. if nothing, else giving dreamers the stability that they need, but the federal courts are threatening. so, no shortage of work to do over the next couple of months.
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with of course important eyes on georgia, even though we had the magic number of 50 to retain majority control of the senate. getting to 51 is even better. so, we will be putting our shoulder into that race as well, helping my colleague raphael warnock. and of course the new, congress not sure what's going to happen on the house side, but we will keep leaning in on federal judges, the criminal justice reform, and so much more. >> i want to ask about georgia in a second, but i want to go back. you are talking about marriage equality. again, caught-ifying that into law. do you think we're going to get that bill in the lame duck before this congress? or is that something we're looking forward to next congress, in january, february? >> my understanding and my hope is that we are talking about this lame duck session, literally the weeks and months ahead. there is a lot of negotiation and work being put in by a number of, members especially senator baldwin.
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she believes we have the number we need, but it wasn't going to happen before the election. i guess some of our republican colleagues were reticent about doing it primary to the november election. clearly, that's behind us now. weathers outgoing members are members that are going to be up for a while, i'm hoping to see the courage to do what's right on the other side of the aisle. to codify this inter federal law. both for the sake of marriage equality but also in response to the dobbs decision. the same extreme supreme court action that took away the protections of roe v. wade, the way in which they did it. potentially threaten so many other rights. whether it's access to contraception, interracial marriage, marriage equality, so much more. i think it's been a big wake up call for a lot of americans, that's why we saw the turnout that we saw. and it's a reminder that the senate can avoid a lot of these anxiety by passing into federal law and making those protections permanent. >> there is a lot on the table, sir. much chitchat about georgia.
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and i think you have sufficiently spoke to that here. i want to get your thoughts about the house as well, because it seems as though a lot of these house races are unfolding in california and could very well decide control of congress. so, how do you feel about the democrats odds in a number of the races there? >> look, i'm encouraged. we're not spiking the football right now, a lot of these races are close, just as we knew they would be. so, for voters out there who may not be there every single election, this is a tremendous example of every election matters. and every vote counts. a small handful of votes could've made a difference either way in these races. so, sorry not sorry to the rest of the country that california takes a while. first, while there is more voters in california than any other state in the nation. it's basically more ballots to count. for the folks who have questions about election integrity, for example. yes, before that vote by mail ballots, counted there is additional verification.
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those sorts of things. so, it's taking a little while but we'd rather get it right thinking it fast. but overall trends are leaning towards democrats, those small margins, they're going to provide surprise victories here. >> i've heard elections in california described as election month. hopefully we don't have to wait that long. senator alex padilla, thank you very much for your time today, sir. all right, joining me now, my political panel. it may lynskey is the political reporter for the washington post and alessio johnson is a former biden campaign consulted and founder of ten 63 west broad. and joe michael singleton is with us virtually, he is a republican strategist and host a bigger than politics on sirius xm. welcome to you all, welcome. andy, i want to start with you, because you're out with a new piece on the georgia runoff. you talk to some political operatives about what we should expect from them. so, can you give us some insight, okay? for those of us who haven't read the post this morning? >> absolutely, great to be here. yeah, the political machinery
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that we are used to and we just saw in action for the last really year has kind of reactivated. we are talking to republican operatives who are knocking on doors the day after the election. absolutely out there. the same thing it's true, democrats democrats have new ads out so it is just such a condensed period but it is the same energy pressing down in a more condensed way. talking to operatives on both sides, they're saying, look, anybody who says they can guess what this electorate is going to look, like they are just full of it. it's just baloney -- >> part of the reason is the new law. there is no new registered voters, so we're dealing with the same electorate we dealt with on election day, november 8th. >> right, but who will come out for this one is something where there is modeling being done, but we saw that the modeling was just failed miserably in the last two or -- the last week. thank you can model with the
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turnout will be in this next election is really difficult. it's going to be quite a, you know. >> crazy! it's going to be crazy! >> buckle your seatbelt. >> there was lots of chitchat about georgia in the senate today. my colleague chuck todd had senator elizabeth warren and beat the press this morning, and i want to play for you halt some comments from her. a, you worked for senator warren and her presidential bid. we need to play this for you guys and we will talk on the other side, take a listen. >> this victory belongs to joe biden. blanks joe biden and the democrats, who got out there and fight for working people. the things we did were important and popular. remember, right after joe biden was sworn in, all of the economist and the pundits in his ear who were saying, go slow, go small. joe biden didn't listen to them. in fact, he went big. >> alexa, do you agree? because i made a similar argument to senator warren immediately after election day.
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and there are folks on multiple panels with me saying, i don't know if we should give joe biden that much credit. the president didn't do too much. what are your thoughts? >> i actually agree with my former boss, there's a lot of things i agree with her on. because his agenda, let's be clear, people forget that in a presidential primary you take all the great ideas and you take that into the general, and that makes up the agenda. and president biden's agenda is what literally turned motivated voters. from abortion rights to voting rights to climate change to student loan debt relief. there are people who are always saying, joe biden wasn't for some of these issues. okay, he may not have been, but through the primary and general cycle, he got on board with the things that the voters wanted, particularly young voters and women voters. therefore, this is the agenda that he campaigned on. this is the agenda that he campaigned with democrats up down the ticket on, and they delivered around abortion, rights around democracy. and joe biden said, listen, if you send me a, congress if you send me a senate, i'm going to make sure these rights are taken care of.
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>> he did say that. now, sure michael, a democrat friends are taking victory laps today. people are feeling, good they're at a branch. my republican friends do not feel as they care about what went down. it is a lot of talk about what exactly backfired on republicans this cycle. whether it was, you know, there's staunch march to send women back to a time before we had rights. or donald trump. you, know there's a lot of debate about that. do you see these results changing the strategy of the republican leadership moving forward? >> i mean, i don't think republicans have a choice. i was in georgia and communicating with several friends who were part of multiple campaigns across the country. i even did a call with several high level are and see officials from my previous work in politics, giving them my assessment on what i thought went wrong. i have to tell you, something bush and kicked republicans in the butt. been this argument that has been filed for four years, yeah,
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the cat side of the bag now. look what you've unleashed. i think despite the economy, just by crime, despite even president biden's approval rating being low, people said i am okay with all of those things because what is being presented by the republican party is just to atrocious. i'm not willing to vote, for not willing to give them any type of consideration. and you saw that by how close many of these races are. i also think, simone, candidate quality matters. you have a lot of these candidates talking about the election being stolen it's like, holy smoke. joe biden's been president for how long now, we're still talking about an election being stolen? we have to get over that and talk about policies, get to where most of the country really is. i think what you realize is that republicans have gone way too far. so, as it pertains to a lot of those, candidates pertains to the former president, in my perspective, this is an opportunity for the party to move beyond trump. and i've spoken to several strategists, simone, and they said momentum is building to do just that. >> now, shermichael i was with
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you until the move beyond trump. i will believe it when i see it, but maybe we'll see it very soon. i'd love to see it very soon. people need to hire you, honey, they might do better in some of these races if they had u.s. and advisor. >> they, might simone, but before i ever go to republican politics they need to clean this crap up. no in the world and try to be defending a lot of the stuff we are seeing of the last six years or so. i'm glad where i'm at, i gladly abide by my personal friends but i don't want to go on anyone's payroll. >> all right, shermichael sending a message. he's speaking to someone who was watching. i want to talk about an issue that shermichael mentioned, both of you talked about it. the issue of roe, the dobbs decision, abortion. it was a major issue in this election. i want to talk about the role of my former boss, one of my former bosses, vice president kamala harris. not only is she a tie breaker in the senate, and democrats get a plus, 1:50 plus one, she will have a little bit more free time to fly across the country into other things, and just breaking these very important ties.
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but she spent a lot of time over the last couple weeks and months digging in on this issue of abortion. connecting it to the issue of freedoms, overlapping issues with voting rights. i heard a lot of talk about president, biden a lot of talk about the democrats, the gse -- now i want to talk about the role the vice president kamala harris plays. >> i think it's a very critical time that we have the first, woman first black woman, as a vice president in this time. and let's get to that 50, one so that we can, as i was quoting and politico several months ago when dobbs came down, let her lose. because she is so good on communicating this policy, she is so good on making this real for people, talking about it in an intersectional way. i used to work at planned parenthood during the time where harris was a senator, and she was a critical champion for reproductive rights. if we want to go into 2024 really, strong we have to have her on the, road communicating policy. and actually, bolstering these state houses who are also going
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to be taking notice this year. >> she had a lot of conversations with state legislative individuals, brought them to the white house. amy, what are you hearing about vice president harris on the role she played in elevating this issue of roe? and what happens next year? >> i, mean she was willing to say the word abortion. which joe biden has struggled with, even saying that word. i think, that in itself, shows that she's just more comfortable being out there and talking about a health care issue that many women deal with. i think that was, for me at least, certainly set her apart. but to your point too, people forget that, with principles, time is their most valuable issue. and to your point, vice president harris has almost had to serve as a senator and vice president, doing two jobs here. so, she is going to, potentially, depending on georgia, have a little more free time. >> more free time. if people don't understand, 50/50, senate democrats have the majority, vice president harris serves as the president of the senate, as vice
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president, and she is a tie breaker. with 51 votes, who knows what is up her sleeve. annie linskey, alencia johnson, shermichael singleton, thank you for starting us off. coming up on symone, a lot more going on. a lot of it and state wide elections that did things like help propel john fetterman to the senate, or tony version wisconsin. i'm going to talk to the governor of wisconsin, going to talk to representatives from battleground states about the fight ahead. we're getting into the state legislators next. but first, my colleague richard lieu is here with other top news stories. >> hey, simone, let's start with a deadly explosion that went off at a tourist area in turkey's largest city of 15 million. the city was crowded with tourists, shoppers and families. turkey's president says the attack might be terrorist related. six are denton 81 injured in istanbul. the ntsb took over the investigation of a deadly midair plane collision that killed six people. multiple world war ii planes were overhead in texas during
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an airshow this weekend. one plane flew down, hitting the other. both crashed to the ground. the ceo of the organization that owns both plane said the planes were well maintained. also saying the volunteer pilots were well trained. and president biden isn't indonesia today for the g20 summit. we will be with indonesia's president today as you prepare for tomorrow much anticipated meeting which she jinping of china. he is also squeezing in congratulatory phone calls to candidates as democrats secure control of the senate overnight. more simone, right after this. liberty mutual. they customize your car insurance, so you only pay for what you need. and by switching, you could even save $652. thank you, liberty mutual. now, contestants ready? go! why? why? only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty.♪ >> we've done a lot of talking
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about control of the house and the senate, and rightfully so. but if you don't need beyond the beltway, you will miss one of the biggest takeaways of the midterms. i'm talking about the state legislators. hundreds of state level leaders, they have democracy in their hands. when you think about these bills but you don't like, some people don't, like i'm talking about the baton, bills attacks on lgbtq plus young people, bills that curb access to the ballot box. that is state legislatures, folks, they are so critically important. so we have to talk about it because some things really happen this, year on november 8th in the elections. i'm happy to be joined today by two lawmakers from states that are playing a very big role in our democracy right now. democratic state representative malcolm kenyatta's, hear from
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pennsylvania. we're also joined by the minority leader of the state legislature in wisconsin, greta neubauer. thank you my friends for being here, you both had very big weeks and you have been really putting in the work. representative kenyatta, i want to start with you. because the winds and pennsylvania, they are monstrous, okay? joshua pirro beat election denier doug mastriano for governor. then of course, after that, you have john fetterman, now your senator elect after beating mehmet oz. you campaigned with john fetterman as well as joshua pirro. not to mention democrats might even be taking control of the pennsylvania house of representatives for the first time in more than a decade. what is the key to that shift? how were state legislate areas critical to the win in pennsylvania this year? >> so, first of all, so good to be with you, symone. i'll tell, you pennsylvania is always the center of the political universe.
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this state better reflects the country as a whole, probably, than any other in the country. and a part of what you saw was a full and thorough rejection of what is the modern-day republican party. a part of what we saw in pennsylvania is that democrats, if we show up everywhere, if we do the two things that every campaign has to do, talking to people what they care about and telling them what the hell you're going to do about what they told you they care about, you could win. we saw candidates win, frankly, across the broad ideological and geographical diversity of our state. that's a lot about democrats, there's no perfect way to be a democrat, but if you stand up for the core values, stand up for working, people protected the freedom to choose, the freedom to love, then you can win in tough races. and i think pennsylvania is a real example of that. i've been to 35 different counties since i lost the senate primary campaigning.
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75,000 miles on my car. what you saw was people fired up to have people in office who they thought actually cared about them. i think, ultimately, that is what this election came down to. >> can you talk about the role philadelphia played in this election? because i think that there, i mean, all of the targeting that was happening in philadelphia, and particularly talking about trying to throw out some of the ballots by some of my republican friends or conservative activists who are working to kind of curb access to the ballot box in chile. they were doing that for a reason. tell me a little bit about philadelphia. >> you know, i say this all the time. folks that you hear trying to throw out votes and make it more difficult for people to vote, they're not trying to do that to everybody. they're trying to go after young people, they're trying to go after people of color, they're trying to go after older pennsylvanians who have taken real advantage of the vote by mail option. this is why house control matters so much, and i would be
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remiss without mentioning, that when we take control of the house, pennsylvania will have the first african american and the first african american woman to lead the pennsylvania house of representatives. that is a big deal, i served on the state government committee, which oversees all of pennsylvania's elections. we have been inundated with effort after effort to try to make it more difficult for people to vote. and to not do the comments of bipartisan things that would lead to us getting the kind of quakers all that we see in other states, by having the ability to pre canvas ballots. we're going to be in the majority on that committee, not just trying to stop their battey's. >> leader knew bauer, i want to bring you in here. because i feel like i just saw you because i sat down with even three of your democratic colleagues in the state legislature last week. all of them won their elections, by the way. i asked them, are we going to win? i thought it looked good. when we talk, republicans were
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on a path to win a super majority that could pass. with, that they could pass whatever they wanted with the power to override any veto attempt. i was quite skeptical that you are going to be able to do something about that. but in fact, republicans did not win that veto proof majority and governor ever is one another term as governor. but you still have a state with a very terrible gerrymandering problem, okay? let's talk about it because, now that the players are in place, what is your strategy? what is your strategy, how are you going to make sure that but wisconsin laws reflect the will of the people? >> yeah, it's a great question. thank you again so much for having me. so, as soon as these maps were handed down to us in april, we knew that it was going to be incredibly difficult for us to prevent two thirds majority in the legislature. of course, wisconsin is a 50/50 state. so, we really should not be competing to hold on to a third class for democrats. but that is the strength of the gerrymandering that republicans
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have created. so, going forward, we are incredibly relieved, grateful for all the hard work on the ground. it meant governor ever's was successful, that we prevented that supermajority, and democracy really lives to fight another day in wisconsin. we are going to use every election and look for every opportunity to get fair maps in wisconsin. because we know that the will of the people will not be undone in madison until we can get fair maps for a legislature. >> i would if you can talk a little bit about the secretary of state and then elections overall in the state of wisconsin. currently, there is a bipartisan elections commission in the state, is my understanding. and that is where the duty of elections rests. talk about the wind by your secretary of state. i actually, because you had the same democrat as the secretary of state for 44 years. but now, he has a republican challenger. and amy lowe neck is fighting for secretary of state.
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douglas full lets job. this is the only secretary of state race in the country that is not been called. if you can unpack that, are you concerned about this race at all? >> yeah, it's a great question. thankfully, we do have this bipartisan what's conson elections commission. republicans threaten to dismantle this and and more power over to the legislature again, extremely gerrymandered. and potentially to the secretary of state candidate. right now, the secretary of state does not have a lot of responsibilities when it comes to overseeing elections. but we do know that, if republicans had won the governorship, they very likely would have tried to transfer more powers over to that position their candidate was successful. >> all right, well, we will be watching that race. i'm just so happy to talk to y'all. i always say, america's policy is made in the state legislatures, y'all are the bench that people keep talking about. they say where is the bench of the democratic party?
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right here, malcolm kenyatta and greta neubauer, appreciate y'all's time. all right folks, coming, up we're going to get it control of the house that is still up for grabs. the stakes are still very high. the leader of the house democratic caucus is here, congressman hakeem jeffries is joining me live right after the break. and i'm trying to ask him about the balance of power and his future and house leadership. hip. expert, november 10th through 23rd and get our best offers of the year on business internet. plus, a complimentary tech check to find the right tech for your team. call or click to book an appointment. help your business stay ahead with the reliable connection and coverage your business deserves. at verizon small business days. from the network america relies on. verizon. meet leon the third... leon the second... and leon... the first of them all. three generations, who all bank differently with chase. leon's saving up for his first set of wheels... nice try. really?
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determine which party controls the house of representatives are still being counted. let me tell, you it's going to be tight. nbc news has adjusted its has projections, estimating that republicans will take a 219 seat majority, with an important margin for error of plus or minus four seats. yes, that does mean that democrats still have a path to victory. so, joining me now to talk housekeeping is the chairman of the house democratic caucus, new york congressman hakeem jeffries. congressman, welcome to you and congratulations on your reelection. let's get right to it. you see the, numbers we just put them up there on the screen. there are 20 remaining races. democrats need 14 to win. thank you will be in the majority this time next week? >> there is a real path moving forward, and i think with the election represented was an affirmation of the tremendous work of president biden, democrats in the house and the senate.
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and a repudiation of the extreme maga republicans who were on the ballot across the country. not just in house races but in statewide races and, of course, in senate races. it was a great day for democracy, a great day for freedom. great day for decency, a great day for progress, certainly a great day for president joe biden and congressional democrats. >> all right, we will be watching these races very closely. new york actually has had a role in this whole situation, i love to talk to you about that sometimes even. but i have to ask you, i have experienced my name being in the press many times and you are the man on everybody's mind. it's important to note here that speaker pelosi hasn't decided what she is going to do, whether she will seek the top spot in the house of representatives again, whether she will retire. there's a lot of chatter about you, specifically. whether you will seek the speakership. what are you hearing from folks? are you waiting to see what
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speaker pelosi decides, first or have you made a decision? >> well, we have one speaker, nancy pelosi, she's done a tremendous job and has delivered victory after victory for the american people. i think all of us right now, simone, are focused on two things. one, we have to make sure that every single vote in the outstanding races that haven't been called are counted. several in california, two in arizona, there is one and colorado, one here in new york. all of which could prevent a pass to the majority, we have to make sure that happens in terms of every single vote being counted. then, we have to welcome incoming members next week. i'm excited, there will be somebody dynamic new members of the house of representatives from all over the country. and we have some work that needs to be done over the next two weeks to make sure the government is fully funded, that the business of the people takes place. and we'll see what happens at the appropriate time moving forward, in terms of house leadership. >> so, have you at least
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thought about it, sir? have you made a decision about what you're going to do? whether that is seeking reelection, you don't have to tell me. i hear you are saying you're not going to tell me what the decision is, but have you at least made a decision? speaker pelosi has said that she has made a decision, just haven't told us what it is yet. >> well, my focus over the last several months, i had an opportunity to travel to more than 20 states in the past few weeks, it's been to try to do as much as we can to help our incredible frontline members and candidates get over the finish line. it was a team effort. they were valiant at there on the battlefield, and the results now speak for themselves. we'll go back to washington tomorrow, again, with a focus on finishing up the business of the, people welcoming new members. and then i'll take one step at a time in terms of what the future holds. i just came from several churches, simone, i put it all in god's hands. >> all right, well, i appreciate that, sir. before i let you, ghana we talked about new york for a
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little bit. i think you would say to be say that if not for a messy redistricting process in new york we could be having a very different conversation right now. we are probably know who had the majority in house of representatives. what do you think the takeaway should be from these republican wins in your state? >> well, we were able to win some statewide races. in fact, we swipe across the state, though the governor's race was certainly closer than anyone expected. particularly had some difficulties in long island and in the hudson valley. we had great candidates, sean patrick maloney did an amazing job, as many people have acknowledged. in some instances, there's a view that he may have even sacrificed himself for the greater cause. we had some retirements in seats that were very challenging and long island and in the hudson valley. but as has often been said in washington, wherever we face some adversity, don't agonize, organize. i think we're going to have to
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assess what happened in some of these races in new york. a setback is nothing more than a setup for a comeback, and we'll come back. >> congressman hakeem jeffries, you are quite possibly one of the most diplomatic people that i know. that is why you are chair of the house caucus. thank you, very very much. >> thank you. >> all right, next. wisconsin governor mandela barnes joins me live to discuss that powerful evidence from his historic senate campaign. how he helped his party and wisconsin, and what lies ahead. n, and what lies ahead the last thing on my mind. hey mom, can i go play video games? sure, after homework. thankfully, voya provides comprehensive solutions and shows me how to get the most out of my workplace benefits. what's the wifi password again? here you go. cool. thanks. no problem. voya helps me feel like i've got it all under control. because i do. oh she is good. voya. well planned. well invested. well protected.
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lieutenant governor mandela barnes fought a strong and competitive race for the united states senate wisconsin. if that he came up short, losing by just one percentage point, he helped propel governor tony evers to reelection. as we discussed earlier in the, program democrats in state legislature were able to
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prevent a veto proof majority in that heavily gerrymandered state. i want to bring and lieutenant governor middle branch talk about what lies ahead. lieutenant governor, thank you for being here. you know, i think a lot of people might be wondering, the election is over, the lieutenant governor waged a good race but he lost. why have a conversation with him? i think the point for me here is, i was on the ground in wisconsin and i saw the inspiration that you gave to so many people. particularly young black people in that state. and when you look across this country, the fact we're not talking about westmore, who is only the third black person to ever be elected governor in our country's history. when we look at, you with the first black man to be elected lieutenant governor and wisconsin, it strikes me that maybe there is some people out there who lost a little hope. what do you think? >> i can tell, you i'm so proud of the coalition we built. i'm glad you brought up the inspiration, the fact that young people showed up inside
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china race here in wisconsin. that's what we set out to do from the very start, to make sure that people felt a part of what we are building. now, the reality is, we had 27 million dollar funding disparity when it came to outside spending. that's neither here nor, there because we work through. it we learned how it worked. this has been the closest u.s. senate race in 100 years and wisconsin, i'm so proud to have been a part of it. so proud of the supporters and everything they brought to the table to help make a difference here in wisconsin. just because the election is over, it doesn't mean the movement is. >> a week before election day, i was actually in milwaukee and i spoke with a group of young professionals. and i want to play some of what they had to say, listen to this. >> as you visited this beautiful, city you're seeing the diversity that we have. also, the impact that we know having a black senator representing wisconsin would have for us. >> how imperative it is to get a black senator in our office that represents on a, that's
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going to be there for us, going to speak for us and have a voice, our voice, going out to watching to. also there fore in wisconsin. >> i think about what they said there, i also think about stacey abrams and what she has built for voters in georgia. here though she did cross the finish line this, time the fact that democrats are competitive in georgia is largely due to the work of stacey abrams. how can you build on the hope and enthusiasm you heard there in wisconsin? because there is a critical supreme court race in that state next year. >> that's the thing. these sorts of races, these one point races are very heartbreaking. but we do have a very solid temptation to build upon for the spring election and the 2024 presidential here in wisconsin. where we are going to be a critical state and we will need to do all the organizing we possibly can to lay the foundation, so that now if a democrat takes wisconsin, or eight electoral votes.
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all in the amazing thing about the guest he spoke with in milwaukee is that we've been able to even have similar conversations with younger younger people, like middle, school elementary school students, who felt like they were a part of something. that is going to have a lasting impact for election cycles to come. >> and it's going to be something. before i let you go, sir, what's next for you? >> well, we will figure that out. but like i said, i'm going to be involved whether i'm in elected office or not an elected office. the fight continues, and i could tell, you i'm still going to be a part of it. >> all, right lieutenant governor mandela barnes. thank you very much. after the break, i had a time last night before i came back here. i was at the portrait of a nation calle here in washington, d.c.. for their portraits until the trail blazers like the eva duvernay, famous filmmaker and tv producer. my conversations with her and other celebs are next. whenever heartburn strikes get fast relief with tums.
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i had the honor of talking to a couple of the artists chosen to create the beautiful portraits of the honorees, as well as three honor is chosen to be immortalized on the wall. i adam artist what inspired, them but i started by asking honorees, doctor anthony fauci, filmmaker and producer eva duvernay and chef jose andrés, would have liked to be placed on the wall. take a listen. >> well, it was humbling, joy is obviously. but i think i'd be important to a category two deserved of my portrait not only together with the individuals who are being honored tonight. i mean, mary bright edelman and the william sisters and others, it's really something special. also everybody else who is in this. it was a daunting thing. i was obviously happy by it, but i was questioning whether i belonged in here. >> for me it's a bit awkward. >> why awkward? >> my wife and my family is very, happy my friends are very
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happy. so many people amazing people out there in the world. and every corner of washington, every corner of america and every corner of the world. doing whatever they can to bring a voice to the voice, let's bring hope to the hopeless. i know those people, because often i try to go to these places. and i mean all of those people, they deserve a portrait here more than i do. >> a little birdie told me that your portrait is one of only two commissions that the british artist event hawking has ever done. how did that happen? >> dave it is a good friend of mine. he's been coming to my pre-grammy gala for several years. and, simply put, i called him. >> i read that you called this portrait was a dream. >> who dreams of having a
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portrait of the national portrait gallery? that's not even words that come into your head, not for me anyway. >> you chose a california-based artist? >> it shows an incredible sister, and african aware good woman, fine artist named curragh davis. who is from my hometown, from los angeles. so, she did explore the job, i'm so happy. >> is very collaborative with venus, giving me input, what she wanted in it. back and forth. we created a composition. venus williams, part of our cultural history. so, just to have a little piece and i think is very exciting. very meaningful to me. i hope people get to the presence of her, sort of the spirit that she represents. >> it was an incredible honor to portray serena. when i wanted to capture was not so much a lot of the projections that are put on her, rather the joy that i feel like she inspires in people. a lot about informed my portrait was leaning into the abundance of her joy and the beauty of that. i found that really inspiring to, me i leaned into that heavily when i was making it. >> and what do you want people
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to take away from this portrait? the joy, the complexity? >> absolutely. i mean, her joy is multi-for areas. it has so much variety. for me, it is exciting to tap into that literally, on her, face on her features, in her clothing and her surroundings. it's kind, it's by vicious, it's magnificent, it's passionate. it's all of those things. so, to show that joy of a black woman and black athlete at this time, it was really inspiring. but at the same, time it shows that she is more than that. and whatever is coming, i think, it's a blessing to all of us to witness. >> it is my hope that these honorees on the wall will come to symbolize this time in our history. people who stood up, spoke up. who rose to the occasion. and they will see that greatness has always existed here. thank you so much for watching symone on the sunday fundy y'all, i'm symone centers thousand. and you can catch me right here
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