good evening and welcome to politicsnation. tonight's lead, in control. right now, the battle for at least one chamber of congress has been settled. nearly a week after election day, with katherine cortez masto's reelection victory last

night in nevada, democrats have retained control of the u.s. senate, and they still have a chance to pick up another seat. the pending a runoff in the state of georgia, on the senate race there between democratic incumbent raphael warnock, and his republican trump backed challenger, herschel walker, both candidates holding campaign events today in the peach state. ahead of next month's runoff. while the senate majority will remain with democrats, regardless of the outcome in georgia, the house is still -- they are holding the slightest majority at present and are expected to keep it when all is said and done. as the gop tries to charge its way forward, after and underwhelming showing, it has to deal with the looming disruption of donald trump's expected announcement this week

that he may make a third bid for the white house in 2024. later in the show, i wrote a memo to trump with my advice for what i think he should do. but control of the senate is where we start today. joining me now, senator bob casey, democrat of pennsylvania. senator, first, thank you for being with us tonight. with the dual victories of democrat john fetterman and his senate race in your state, and democrat john shapiro in the race for governor last week in your state, is it a stretch to say that pennsylvania, which was considered an electoral toss up this week, is now going to blue? >> there is no question that the margins that john fetterman won by and john shapiro, and

even bigger margins, indicate the pennsylvania has a strong preference for democrats right now. and that is a good foundation. we have to continue to battle, though, in the years ahead to make sure that we maintain that edge. but both candidates started with a strong foundation because people knew them. josh is the attorney general, and john is a lieutenant governor. that connection they have two voters was difficult to break, no matter what their opponents did. but both ran really strong campaigns, and we are very proud of the races that they won. john's race, of course, for the senate, was especially important to people like me, because we are working so hard to make sure he can be elected. he withstood a barrage of negative advertising. no democratic candidate for the senate has ever seen that, and he stood strong in the eye of that storm, and he prevailed by more than most people would

have predicted. >> it's absolutely true. i preached down in philadelphia, moved a little bit in -- very ugly, some of the stuff you would see. but the people that came out and voted in big numbers are expecting democrats to deliver. your current and future majority that chuck schumer said that at a press conference earlier today, coming off the results of last week and of nevada, katherine cortez's win last night in nevada. listen to what chuck schumer had to say. >> this is a very happy day. we have great candidates. they have flawed candidates. we had a really good agenda that we actually passed, that helped the american people on things that they cared about. we won, because the american

people rejected the kinds of autocracy that some mega republicans in the party we're talking about. >> now that is a pretty long list of reasons why we have democrats being successful in this midterm cycle. what can you tell us about how senate democrats are preparing to move forward, with regards to everything that is laid out before us? >> i can tell you what, i hope we do. we made a lot of progress in the first year of president biden's administration. and when it comes to helping people and helping communities, the child tax credit, for example, was a great benefit for people who had children and were raising their children in the midst of the pandemic, whether it was -- or green county, or so many others. so it was a direct help to families at the time of crisis. but we also were helping the community, by investing in

infrastructure so they can't rebuild roads and bridges, and invest in high-speed internet. i think they heard what we did this august, when we took action to lower the cost of prescription drugs for seniors. and i think more of that is going to become manifest in the next couple years. but there are still some things you've got to do. i think we should try to continue the child tax credit, the version we passed in a rescue plan, so we can continue to help millions of children across the country. as you know, we still have to do more when it comes to criminal justice and voting rights, and so much else. and with john fetterman's win, we have one more vote to get closer and closer to what i hope will be a rules change, so we can pass these important matters that affect peoples lives with a majority vote, instead of having it still be tied to a 60 vote rule, which has blocked so much progress. >> that's exactly what i wanted --

as you know, we know about the child tax credit. as you noted, we cannot just have people vote for an exercise, they must vote for progress. and saying that, as we await what might be donald trump's expected announcement for the third white house bid on tuesday. are you at all surprised by the criticisms of trump and his impact on the midterms, coming from his own party now? as dozens of the candidates he backed in the midterms were defeated, including one last night, adam blacks saw in the nevada senate race. are you surprised that now, it seems like some republicans are criticizing trump and actually moving away from him? >> i guess i'm a little surprised at the scope of it.

but we will see what they do. i think they have to ask themselves a question, whether or not they want to be the party of extremism, and the party of genuflect-ing to one person, as opposed to being a party that is getting things done for the american people. that's something they have got to ask themselves and answer that question. i think what we've got to do is make sure we stay committed to the issues that have helped us win this year. and to get more done. i was impressed in the senate race, for example, not only did john fetterman do a little bit better in a lot of rural counties, and his one point victory in 2020. but he was also able to do a little better in urban and suburban communities. and this is true. in order to win pennsylvania, you have to be able to do both. and i was certainly proud of what john received in cities, the urban communities.

for example, he was getting 83% of the black vote in our state, and that vote is only about 8% of the vote. he got a lot out of that 8% of the vote to help him in a tough race. >> no doubt about it. senator, quickly, because we are out of time. but we still have a senate race in georgia, with the majority secured last night for the democrats in the senate. what does it mean for senate democrats if senator raphael warnock ultimately prevails in the december 6th runoff? his republican challenger, herschel walker, both of them campaigning against georgia today. what will the democratic -- how will the state energize to get one more victory, when they've already secured the majority? >> i think it will stay energized, and i think senator warnock has already won one race. when i called him the other day and said, congratulations on the first round, he was determined to win the second

round in the runoff. i think a lot of people want him to win because of what he has stood for and who he is. his committee to publicly attack the -- but it always helps to have an extra democratic vote, and we are grateful that he has run such a strong campaign in a tough state like georgia. >> it does help to have one more vote, when some you have one or two that you can't always depend on, like on the voting rights bill. thank, you senator. >> we need more votes, you are right. >> thank, you senator casey of pennsylvania. let's continue our discussion of the midterms. joining me now is representative rebecca -- of vermont. who just became the first woman and openly gay person to be elected to congress from

vermont. thank you for joining me today, and first of all, congratulations on your historic win. congresswoman-elect, although the control of the house currently remains unresolved, it is likely to resolve to be a slim republican majority. as an incoming democrat, what will be your approach? if your parties in the minority, how do you plan on working with republicans across the aisle, if at all? >> i really appreciate the question, reverend. thanks for having me on. i think the question is one that has to be put to republicans, as well. because even if they eke out a slim majority, they are going to have to work with their counterparts in the democratic caucus to get anything past. so i am someone who has had a reputation in vermont, working with people of all political stripes. i am the current president of the senate in vermont, and you

have to find your allies where you can on issues that are going to impact working people. that's what i ran on, is really running to support working people. and i'm sure there are members, backbenchers of the republican party, that also want to help their constituents. so i will work with anyone who will work with me in good faith. but of course, it's going to be challenging. >> you represent the first state in the union to recognize same-sex civil unions. over the summer, the house voted to pass legislation to codify same-sex marriage. nationwide, and strengthen other -- the bill was a direct reaction to the supreme court decision to overturn roe versus wade, as conservative justice craig thomas argued that the courts should reconsider other landmark cases, such as same sex marriage. however, the senate delayed the same-sex marriage vote until

after the midterms. and in this election cycle, more lgbtq candidates such as yourself won more seats in congress than ever before. where do you see this fight going, congresswoman-elect? >> well, we've been saying this is the gayest congress in american history and we are very excited to be a part of that. look, we have got to codify this right. i was somebody who was so honored to be able to marry my spouse in vermont, and then had to serve with members of my senate, who actually did not vote in support of my right to marry. so i know what it is like to feel like a second-class citizen when it comes to marriage equality. so i think we have to take this very seriously and trying to pass legislation that will codified that right. it means a lot to me, but it also means a lot to my constituents across vermont, and not just the lgbtq community.

all vermonters that i speak to want to make sure that this right is in trying to. >> your state, vermont, also has a history of becoming the first state to enshrine abortion rights in its constitution. and during your time as a vermont state senate majority leader, you assured in legal protections for abortions, including this newly-passed legislation. it's been reported that some of your colleagues did not see the urgency for abortion legislation. but you correctly predicted that the end of federal abortion protection was near. how do you plan on fighting for abortion rights in your newly elected position in the u.s. house? >> well certainly, two things that are so important to me is making sure that we codify roe, but also we have to deal with the hyde amendment, which has really been hampering our ability to make sure that everybody has access to reproductive rights. what is heartening to me is

that we were able to pass this measure, this reproductive liberty constitutional amendment in vermont, and other states are also looking to enshrine these rights. i think that voters spoke across the nation, that they do not support the actions of the supreme court. and they want women to be able to have control of their own bodies, and their own medical decisions. and so, i feel like this is a moment that we really need to seize on the ways in which our electorate is energized on this issue, and we have to make sure that regardless of where you live, you have access to abortion and other health care matters and certain reproductive rights. >> also in vermont, this election cycle, voters overwhelmingly voted yes on a constitutional amendment to close an old loophole in the state constitution, regarding slavery and indentured servitude. some of your measures --

in alabama, oregon, and tennessee. what are your thoughts on this historic, yet overdue move? >> yes, very overdue. and we always say in vermont, how proud we are that even before we were a state, when we were the vermont republic, we had outlawed slavery. and it has always -- those of us, i taught history for a long time, i was a public school teacher. i taught history and civics, and knew that we still allowed indentured servitude in our constitution. and it just didn't sit right with so many of us, and i think that a constitution, a state constitution is a statement of your values. it is where you see your state in regards to human rights and civil rights. and we felt so strongly that that document needed to reflect our values. and i am so pleased that it passed. >> all right, thank you congresswoman elect. rebecca balint. thank you for being with us. coming, up former president donald trump has a big

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you wanted. the red wave was barely even a ripple. now many republicans are trying to dodge your calls. they don't want you campaigning for them. no matter how many q and on supporters you can pack into a regional airport hangar. even your media friends are abandoning you. rob rupert murdoch called florida's governor the future, and called you trump de dumpty. i've heard you blaming your wife melania for your political woes. i don't need to be a marriage counselor to tell you that won't end well. so when you step to the podium, as you are gilded mar-a-lago ballroom on tuesday night, i am urging you to sit this one out. i know you will never be a regular ex president. you want to start building

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and turn time inside out... again and again. and you can do it all with your eyes wide open. >> welcome back to politicsnation. let's now turn to my political panel for their insights on today's big stories. joining me now, former republican congressman david jolly of florida, and former democratic congresswoman donna edwards of maryland. both are msnbc political analysts. let's start with you, david. you've made it clear that democrats need to control the agenda unapologetically for the next two years. now, right now, it seems there will be a slim democratic lead in the senate and a slim gop

led house. let's take a listen to what leaders chuck schumer and kevin mccarthy had to say. >> so, what does it mean for the future? what does it say to us as leaders? it says, let's get something done in the next two years. >> the american people are ready for a majority that will offer a new direction. that will put america back on track. republicans are ready to deliver it. >> i wanted to get you both to weigh in on this. what do you think the american people can expect to be accomplished if there is a divided congress? david, you first. and then donna. >> yeah, the problem with kevin mccarthy's statement right there is that is absolutely not what the american people said tuesday night. with the american people said, for the third straight election, as we want to keep going at the direction that democrats are going. look, it does not feel like an ideological mandate, but it is a mandate for democratic leadership. without question. the performance that defied

history is american voters saying, we do not trust where republicans want us to go. we want to stick with democrats. so, what that means is, listen, biden has successfully balanced an agenda with expectations. i represents that general direction that mainstream america wants to go. so, my advice to democrats would be keep with, it stay with it, mainstream issues like, education the health, care the economy, curbing inflation. if republicans don't come along, that's fine. you always want to appreciate accomplish what you said it to accomplish but in 2020, for america will once again look at the contrast and, say who is fighting for me? and we're the ones ignoring where i really want to go? and i thought that contrast was affirmed on tuesday it would likely be reaffirmed in two years. >> donna? >> first of, all i think kevin mccarthy has no more control over the republican conference than i do. it's really clear that there are significant numbers of republicans, particularly in

the house, who want to investigate. they have announced plans already that they want to impeach everybody from the secretary of homeland security to the president of the united states. that is not an agenda that the american people are interested in. and i think david is right on this one, that democrats have gotten where they are right now because they stayed focused, they stayed focused on things that are important to the american people. i don't think anything is going to be accomplished legislatively in a divided congress. should that be where we end up. and i'm not really clear that's going to happen yet. but should the republicans take the majority, i think that there going to be very fractured and frayed. and they will be proposing things that are never going to make their way into a democratically controlled senate, will never make their way to the desk of the president of the united states. i think democrats are in the catbird seat here. implemented a lot of the

aggressive and important legislative agendas that they passed over those past two years, stay focused on the things that are important to the american people, and that the republicans have their sideshow. and it will be a sideshow. >> donna, sticking with you, i want to mention your state of maryland. which has had some historic for us this election cycle. starting with governor wes moore, who we had on politicsnation last night. he became the first black governor of the state. and lieutenant governor elect is an indian american woman, making her the first immigrant to hold statewide office and maryland. and anthony brown will become the states attorney general, the first black person elected to that office. what do you make of the progress happening in your state? and how well this election was handled under such intense pressure? >> well, i think maryland is a

classic example, where at the top of the ticket republicans nominated one of the most outrageous election deniers, who couldn't even get the endorsement of our current republican governor here in maryland. and so, as a result, democrats in an overwhelmingly democratic state united to elect's first. starting with the head of our party in the state, governor elect wes more. and on down, you've got to add to that list brooklyn men, the first woman to be elected as our comptroller in a statewide office in maryland as well. and so, i think democrats are very focused in maryland and across the country, where you have people who are talking about what they want to do for the future, who got elected. and the people who relitigating the past did not. >> david, in today's former president donald trump is expected to announce his plans to run for president for a third time. now, this comes as many in the

gop are blaming him for a weaker than expected showing in the midterms. what do you expect from trump on tuesday? and what is your assessment as a floridian of the gop's rush to embrace ron desantis has a feature of the party? >> yeah, rev, i think we can expect donald trump to either announce or threatened to bring the whole party down of people don't follow his lead. the truth, is in the modern republican party, you have the reagan crafted party and you have the trump crafted party. trump remade the party in his image. i have a problem with the analysis that blames trump for this, that is 2016 analysis. by 2022, the entire republican party has evolved to a place, and i don't even like to call it trump-ism, they have adopted a platform that is anti migrant, anti-lgbt, anti-science, anti-history, anti-communities of color. and that is their platform.

it's a hateful, populist platform. even if trump exit stage left on tuesday, this notion of embracing ron desantis. ron desantis is the very profile that the rest of the nation rejected on tuesday night. so, i actually think republicans are about to learn all the wrong lessons from this past tuesday. and the other thing that should anger people as you will see the whitewashing of the republican party by the likes of jeb bush and paul ryan, maybe even a mitt romney. republicans who are otherwise respected are going to say, if trump is, gone i could go back to the full embrace of the party and we're going to elevate ron desantis. ron desantis has engaged in the same hateful politics that donald trump did. not because donald trump told rod desantis to do, that but because ron desantis chose to do that on his own volition. he should be held accountable, just as the nation held donald trump accountable. >> it wouldn't be talking about the rhonda scent is that was banning books and saying we shouldn't talk about race and sending migrants to democratic

states that have come to florida, you wouldn't be talking about that ron desantis? but let me go on. don, at democrats already have control of the senate. how crucial is winning georgia to cutting the gridlock? does donald trump's announcement to help or hurt the senate prospects? >> well, look, i think that raphael warnock is going to run a really strong and aggressive campaign on the ground in georgia. and just win that outright. he is by far the more competent and better candidate. and frankly, i think if donald trump really wants to go into georgia and take credit for georgia and announce his campaign, i can't believe that republicans would want that to happen. i think the state has already rejected donald trump, rejected donald trump in voting for brian kemp in georgia. so, i think there is going to

be a lot of work to get democrats elected. and by, doing it by talking to voters and turning them out. >> all right. former representatives donna edwards and david jolly, thank you both for being with us. after the break, pulitzer prize-winning journalist nicole hannah jones joins me to discuss affirmative action, democracy and the future of journalism. you're watching politicsnation. politicsnation so i choose neuriva plus. unlike some others, neuriva plus is a multitasker supporting 6 key indicators of brain health. to help keep me sharp. neuriva: think bigger.

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most had generalists have had a week to examine the results of what they say about american politics right now. and of course, that says nothing about the races that were covered by media. the messaging succeeded, and failed. and now, what impacts of democrats success last week will be for the party, the president, and the country going forward. joining me now to talk about it all, professor and inaugural -- in race and journalism, founder of the center for journalism and democracy. professor, great to have you with us. before i get to the launch of -- what is your overall impression

about this midterm cycle, before and in the five days since the election. the red wave didn't materialize, and the polling data, in many cases, suggests it was coming. but it was ultimately proved wrong. what is your take on all of that? >> thank you so much for having me on today. and i think there was some great reporting on the ground. some great critical reporting about the election cycle. but i think too much of it was a driven, as is often the case, by -- there is a sense of reporting around a crime wave, around the idea that voters weren't that concerned about democracy. that the most important things to voters were -- that they were downplaying the decision, and how that was going to impact it. that really led to this

republican narrative that we were going to see this republican take on congress. clearly, that wasn't true. and many of us were disappointed at the way the talking points continue to be mainstream by journalists. we should be much more skeptical of -- we should be skeptical of polling, which has proven an ineffective measure of where we stand on the political landscape. we don't often enough think about the way we are driven by -- and the way we drive perceptions and the way that we think about what is happening in our country as opposed with have covering what actually is happening. >> i understand it on tuesday, he will host a democracy summit for journalists. the summit serving as an

inaugural event for the center for journalism and democracy. you founded that, and howard university. this is dear to my heart. so congratulations on the launch, as well. i would be curious to hear in your words, what defines the senators specific mission? because at this time, your concern with democracy and a general-ism -- and my right, professor? >> yes, absolutely. as you very well-known, democracy has always been contested in the united states. it's always been fragile, especially after the voting rights act. for the first time, we had the semblance of a multi racial democracy. so i founded the center because i was very concerned about the state of american democracy. but even more so, the way journalists seem to be covering the fragility and the erosion

of democracy under the trump era. and even preceding the trump era, what happened under the obama administration. so the charge of the center is really to try to push our profession to take a stance on democracy. we understand that you cannot have a pre-free press without a democracy. that these two things are dependent upon each other. and as you know, journalists don't like to take sides. but in a free society, we have to take aside when it comes to democracy. so this center, the objective is to throw democracy -- and to say that this is not one of those areas where we can be neutral. >> i wanted to ask you about this new report from nbc news.com this week. the conservative majority is poised to rule against affirmative action. the leaders of several conservative black colleges are bracing to absorb an influx of

students. they feel they will not feel safe. given your active experience, that has brought to you through both hbcus and epw eyes, what is the impact on american higher education, and the hbcus included. should the court ultimately -- >> yes, so one, the problem with how we talk about affirmative action is we have -- largely because of the way the courts have moved on affirmative action, we have forgotten that the purpose of affirmative action was that we had 350 years of affirmative discrimination against black people, and so the idea that we need to take affirmative action to undo that discrimination and the realities of that discrimination. so of course they are ruling

against discrimination, ruling against us trying to move towards a more equitable society. so i think the impact is going to be, yes, i think a lot more black students will choose to come to hbcus. and as someone who made the choice to come to howard, i think that's a great thing. it's important to build up black citizens, and for our students of color, particularly black students to have spaces where they feel respected and treated with dignity. but i also believe we deserve to be in these spaces. and that it is a terrible thing in our society to believe that universities where black students still are underrepresented with so-called formative action, that we will see those numbers decline even further. there will always be a welcoming space for these students at historically black colleges. that is the sign of a society that's regressive. but i hope pwi's will do that and start to think about

affirmative action in a different way. we can have affirmative action based on a lineage. that if you have affirmative action basically for legacy -- you can have affirmative action for indigenous people, because of what happened with their stolen land. so we're going to have to think more creatively about this. we would certainly welcome students at minority serving institutions across the country. >> i'm glad you put it that way. because i often say, when people questioned me at colleges and other places about form of action, why the government should have to do it. the government is the one that put it in place. that we had to affirmatively go against affirmative discrimination policies. rosa parks was arrested, she didn't break a custom, she broke the law. and people keep acting like the government had no involvement in those 350 years. so i'm glad you put the context right. people say, why should it be

based on race? because slavery was based on race. you are correcting what was done. professor, one last midterm question. the washington post reported this weekend that while more than eight in ten blacks supported democrats in this election cycle, they slipped between four and seven points in this last cycle according to exit polling at the ap. what does that tell you about when democrats need to give priority, looking in the next two years? >> as you know, they fluctuate between five and 10% for candidates, depending on who they are. you see a greater fluctuation in non presidential races. so i don't think we should read too much into that. but i will say is that we know

every national election, democrats are falling on black people to save the party. so to be that inciting low, and then as soon as black people come out and vote, it seems like there needs, the reasons they are supporting the democratic party, are immediately dropped from the agenda. and i just think that that cannot continue. that our republicans are saying, there are a number of black people that can be shaved off from the democratic electorate for a variety of reasons. and democrats need to take the black vote seriously. to not make black people feel like they are just being used every election, but actually delivering on policies. >> absolutely. thank you, as always, for being with us. and good luck on your new center. we will certainly be checking in with you to see as it moves forward. up next, from my final thoughts, stay with us. stay with us for the all-new subway series menu the new monster has juicy steak and crispy bacon.

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