in that community. fortunately, thank god these hypotheticals do not appear to have happened yet, but i do have to ask, what is this all for? suggesting that twitter could make a little bit more money, more revenue, this is the potential risk that we could now be facing with elon musk's twitter. you asked the 44 billion dollar question eamonn, which is why did he buy, what does he want to do with it? i don't know the answer to those questions, but i'll say that it doesn't seem that hard to be the world's richest man if you can't see what's not going on in from your face. >> the billionaire myth. it's always good to see you, my friend, thank you and good job as always. enjoy the rest of your evening up. coming up on amen, a blue surprise, democrats retake control of the senate with the potential to pick up

one more seat. plus, historic ballot initiatives. the legalization of marijuana, medicaid expansion, even slavery ending up on some states ballots this year. we'll tell you more about. we are going to look at some new rising stars within the democratic party. i'm ayman, let's get started. >> last night at this hour, the msnbc news decision desk made a major call, a move they defined history and expectations. democrats are now projected to retain control of the u.s. senate. democratic incumbent senator katherine cortez masto, in nevada propelled her party to the majority after beating out republican adam laxalt. >> the victory is for nevada and all of us. all of the hard work

that we have put into it. this election, nevadans rejected the far-right politicians working to divide us. we rejected the conspiracies, their attacks on our workers, and our efforts to restrict our freedom. >> cortez master's degree -- regardless of the outcome of the georgia december 6th runoff election, although we should know that there are significant differences, and important winds between a 50 seat majority and a 51 seat majority. meanwhile, the better for the house remains too close to call. the latest msnbc news projection shows republicans with at least 219 seats to democrats to 16. important to emphasize right here, that projection comes along with this very important caveat. a four seat margin of error that could go either way. yesterday, democrats made it clear that they are still very much in the game when it comes to control, flipping a key house seat in washington's third district. i see that many believed was

safely red going into the midterms. the way to add it to a series of democratic victories coast to coast. the party not only beat back a red wave, but they also won back so-called blue wall states that donald trump wanted in 2016. that's important because it shores up their positions going into 2024. democrats did not just beat expectations on a national level, they also made in historic gains in state legislatures across the country. like in michigan, where democratic's hope to flip the house and senate. gretchen whitmer's victory there means that the party now has complete control over the state government for the first time in 40 years. in minnesota, democrats also secured a trifecta after taking the state senate, the party also maintained their majorities in massachusetts, maryland, and even won a supermajority in vermont. in wisconsin, even though they failed to win control of the inner chamber, they stopped republicans from containing a supermajority in the state legislature, which would've allowed them to overwrite democratic governor tony evers veto power. these democratic winds take on a

whole new significance when you consider this. right now, at this moment, the supreme court is preparing their arguments in a monumental case concerning the once -- independent state legislature theory. the right court appears poised to -- the ability, yes the ability to unilaterally set the rules for federal elections. many experts fear that the expected decision could open the door for state level lawmakers to basically ignore the will of the people, and choose an alternative slate of electors. i know you are thinking, if all of this sounds familiar it's because it is exactly what trump and his cronies tried to do in 2020 election. although national races tend to steal the spotlight, we get that, the state level winds are important, and they will have major implications. not only on

policy like abortion rights and legislation, but also for the foundation and future of our democracy. let's bring in somebody who knows the ins and outs of the state level politics, ben wikler. he's the chairman of the wisconsin democratic party. also joining us is john -- it's great to both of you with us. molly, i'll start with you. your reaction to the democrats, not just holding the senate majorities, which is extremely important and significant, but what they were able to do on a state level. >> i think that we in the pundit class did not give voters enough credit. they rejected authoritarianism, they

rejected trumpism. they rejected racism, and they voted for. the good guys one, the democracies, the swing state candidates who are anti-democratic, election deniers, almost all of them have lost. we still have another gubernatorial that's waiting to be called. but the american people did not give them enough credit. they sought through it, and they voted for people who believe in democracy and the rule of law. i think that it was a very good night for democrats, but more importantly, it's a good night for democracy. >> although democrats like mandela barnes was not able to beat out the incumbent republican senator ron johnson, you did reelect the governor, tony evers. what do you think that voters did in splitting their tickets? why do you think that happened in a place like wisconsin? >> the striking context is that wisconsin most goes against the president in a midterm. the last time they voted for a governor of the same party of

as the president was 30 years ago. the last time it was a democrat was in 1962 1962 was also the last year where an incumbent republican in the senate was defeated during a democratic presidency. the fact that we came within one point is a testament to mandela barnes's strength. the fact that ever's when a 3. 4 percentage point victory, that is triple his 2018 margin during the blue wave year. it's an extraordinary thing. the other piece of this is the republicans have gerrymandered wisconsin so badly that they could very well have gotten super majorities in both changers of the state legislature. they were 2499 votes short. voters said no to having a unilateral republican control go to a party that did not even win statewide in the governor's race. it really is, as molly was saying, an extraordinary night in the midterm election. it goes against the pattern of history, and it represents a triumph for democracy and freedom in a moment where a basic freedom was being taken away for half the population. >> i'm so glad you provided that context. as bin was just saying that, when

you see, it we kind of sometimes look at the double use and else, and we think about it just as that. but having that context shows us what the message that was behind all of those votes, how critical are these now. democratic blue wall victories ahead of 2024 when you look at the momentum that the democrats can build on. if you take something that ben just said, mandela barnes, what the democrats were able to do in a very gerrymandered wisconsin. how did they reinforce or sure up that blue wall in pennsylvania, michigan, and wisconsin ahead of 2024? >> the state houses are really critical, and i think the democrats have sort of gotten interested in them again there is a period during obama when democrats took their eye off of the ball and they become very committed to working on the state parties, just it as what happened in wisconsin. it's really great, and when democrats do that, i think that it helps the other party, the different -- i would say that the hope is that next time republicans will not try to dismantle democracy in 2024. what they did this time was really rebuked by voters. it is very scary to have just one party that believes in this

central tenant of our entire governmental system. i think that the hope is that republicans will not do this again, but i think there's a good framework here for democrats to be able to protect our freedoms. >> you mentioned the fact that democratic voters were able to prevent the gop from reaching a veto proof supermajority. i just talked about the significance of what state legislators will be doing if this decision, harper versus more goes the way that some would like it. do you believe that folks in your state and

elsewhere are beginning to understand just how crucial state elections are to our democracy? i keep saying this, i was talking about it with ali last night. i don't think that any of us four years ago, five years ago, knew a single name of a secretary of state in this country. >> absolutely. this really is a sea change moment for democrats, and there are so many people -- especially local activists, committed democratic party members, grassroots groups, who won their state legislature races. attorney general, as governors races. that work, finalizing -- building grassroots networks that can turn out voters for offices that are far from the national news. that makes all the difference in the times in, -- what molly was referring to, we saw donald trump go state-by-state and try to pressure state officials to overturn election results. in wisconsin and in these other states, there were people running for officers who wanted to do that in 2024. there is a bill in our state legislature that republicans introduced that would allow statewide

elections to be nullified if the margin of victory was less than the number of absentee ballots cast. which is true of the last four presidential elections here. three, excuse me. not -- for the last six. that means that if republicans got their way, they can throw out those people and pull off a legal coup. that path is now closed. they said no, they rejected that risk. >> speaking of a legal coup, i want to ask you about, this it's something that you brought up. the gerrymandering, there is this new piece of esquire entitled, nobody can pretend that wisconsin is a republic. i want to know this from tuesday, the democratic party as you mentioned, they got 51% of the votes statewide in wisconsin. they have the electoral majority. that only translated to 32% of this states legislature seats. what do you make of that assessment? can

you say that wisconsin is a functioning democracy when you have 51% of the will reflected in only 30% of the political power? >> it means there's something fundamentally broken. i will say that we got to 35 seats. excuse me, 34 seats. we stopped republicans from getting the super majority that they wanted. the 35 seats meaning that we can't get the governor's veto. there's an opportunity for something better. this april 4th, 2023, this supreme state court race that will determine the -- if the non republican candidate wins that race, it means that -- they could strike down gerrymandered states. the constitutional requirement is that peoples votes coming equally. with that, wisconsin could become a democracy like minnesota. >> thank you to the both of you, greatly appreciated as always. next up, all eyes are on the house and

democrats narrow path to victory there after retaining control of the senate. my sunday night panel is here to discuss that and more, but first my friend richard louis is here with the headlines. hi, richard. >> good evening to you. some of the stories to watch right now, at least six dead and 80 injured after an explosion set off in istanbul, turkey on sunday. it happened in a popular tourist and shopping area in the city center. the president said that the act might have been an active terror. at least six people were hurt when a vehicle plowed through a crowd at the street carnival in los angeles on saturday night. police say they are conducting a traffic stop when somebody in a porsche suv drove through the event. none of those injuries were life-threatening. one person was taken into custody. and honoring the victims of the sandy hook elementary school massacre, they opened a new town connecticut on sunday. the opening comes just one month before the tenth anniversary of the shooting. 26 people lost

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races. in washington's third congressional district, democrat marie perez pulled off the upset defeating joe can't, in election denier who vowed to investigate the 2020 election. perez wanted a heavily republican favored district that few saw as competitive for the democrats. this morning, democrats picked up another scene in colorado's eighth congressional district, defeating republican state senator robert kurt mayer. they've made history being the first latina elected to congress, and they begin the week confident that there is going to be this red wave in the house. if democrats keep this up, there is actually small but possible chance they

could keep control. let's bring in the sunday night panel, president of the leadership conference -- >> and ben collins, nbc news senior reporter. it's great to have all of you with us. do you see a path forward for democrats to keep their majority in the house? three winning outright races, or having such a narrow republican majority that the democrats may try to reach across the aisle and peel off one or two democrats. maybe somebody who voted for the january 6th commission, or is staunchly against trump or mccarthy. >> either of those are viable. that was because voters, as molly said, they voted for democracy. they voted for fundamental rights. they voted for candidates to express solutions to today's problems, not yesterday's election denial. with that really represents in terms of this race is that absolutely, democrats are still in it in terms of the house and the midterm. we don't really know what the outcome is going to be,

it's like every single vote has to count, it's important not to let -- all types of election denial, other conspiracies get in the way of the count. to your point, ayman, i don't think there is any question that if there is only, say, a three vote gap in terms of who controls the house, what that means is that you are going to see a lot of democrats in the minority doing exactly that, reaching across the aisle, finding cause, 3 to 4 republicans, they can actually pass legislation. that's a real possibility. >> we are also watching the race for colorado's eighth congressional district. it's where far-right congresswoman is in a very tight race against her democratic opponent, adam frasch, who has surprised everybody, not just in the district, but they wanted to see why almost 25,000 votes last time, how bad is it that this race is even this type? >>

i think it's a warning for the far-right. what you're seeing across the board here is more republicans surviving in these races. they'll be under pressure to work with democrats on a very basic thing like raising the debt ceiling. if that's not raised, it would create a tremendous economic burden on average americans. i can see small numbers of republicans who have seen the results of these midterms, and are going to want to compromise and be sane, and do things that help the american people. it's the most important thing, it's the narrow republican majority. the verdict of the american people this midterms is that they don't want extremism. they want people from both parties that are going to work on

serious problems in a serious way. >> kevin mccarthy walked into this election certain that he was going to be a house speaker, but that might be in jeopardy now as he is facing blow back from some members like matt gates and others. if they win, if republicans do win, he's going to need every republican vote for him, which obviously will be a tough majority to put together with such a slim margin. how did mccarthy nail it so badly? >> i think that if you tell your voters over and over again, just the lie that your vote doesn't count, some of them are going to believe it. they're not going to show up to vote for you. that's not just it, i think that they put some eggs in some very weird baskets, now and they lost that basket. one of them was trends swimmers and all of this ridiculous -- banning books in florida, things like that. critical race theory, these really far right stalking horses. people are looking up and saying, wait a second, oreos cost twice as

much as they did last year, what's going on here? nobody's really talking to me about this. and so if you didn't give anybody the incentive to vote based on what's actually happening in their own homes, not based on hatred of trans people, or the idea that the election was stolen, those are the driving forces of this party in the last few weeks. i don't think that really resonated with most americans. >> what would that resonated with most americans? when you think of what ben was just saying, the messaging from republicans fell flat on the republicans ears. they certainly did not newly-or the victory that many had hoped for. was it the messaging from president biden, was at the independent races and what different people were doing in those races? whether it is joshua pirro, or fetterman in pennsylvania, or you think of the folks out west, like you are seeing right now with mark kelly in arizona. >> all of the above, amen. it really does

help if you have a sitting president who is actively running for nomination who everyone knows what he delivered. we saw president biden do that as well. these are some things now whether or not their message to voters, and says i not only see and understand the problems you have, i have solutions. we saw that in the case of gretchen whitmer, who was talking about that now in the state house races. what we saw is that they were turning out for the right for abortion, they were turning out because there is actually discussion about what it meant to have that environment. in all kinds of ways, even the voters who turned out, yeah boaters, -- some of the most diverse, truly the nature of what the united states is. they're not record high numbers, 27% overall. but in swing states, these tight races, they turned up in higher numbers. >> david, look at the republicans for a second. you'd wonder why they don't perform well, and maybe learn a lesson. but you have folks like congressman james comer who is poised to host the house oversight committee if they win, saying on fox the other night that their high priorities will be investigating hunter biden, impeaching the secretary of homeland security. and many others saying that the party has to be the old party is done,

very it, burn it, wherever that he tweeted out. do you think that they've learned nothing from these midterms. >> i think the big story the next two years as the battle for the future of the republican party. you have got a very extreme freedom caucus group in the house that kevin mccarthy, if he does win the >> poised to chair the house oversight committee. if they win. saying on fox the other night that their top priorities will be investigating hunter biden. dr. fauci impeaching secretary alejandro mayorkas of homeland security. and then you have others like josh hawley who are saying that the party has to be the, old parties, don berry, burn it. whatever it was. he tweeted out. do you think that they have learned nothing from these midterms? >> i think that the biggest story the next two years is the battle for the future of the

republican party. you've got a very extreme freedom caucus group in the house that kevin mccarthy, if he does win the majority, he'll be -- there's a dozen of them, they're already threatening to challenge him in his role for speaker, and since mccarthy is such a small majority, he can't give up any of those freedom caucus votes. he's going to have a very difficult time controlling that group, and that will give them more power. i think that they will go extreme. the talking points you've mentioned, we'll have all of these investigations, and i'm not sure -- again, these elections were very bad for the far-right and republican party. >> i don't want you to speculate, but what does it mean when you have marjorie taylor greene or paul gosar with power in this congress, in this next congress if they infect regain some authority within the republican party, which most likely they will if kevin mccarthy wants to be the speaker it has to bring them into the mix for the roads. >> right, this might be

the two votes that you need to do this sort of wacky investigations that you want to do. it's going to be a lot of back and forth. they do have a lot of power in this congress regardless of what happens from here on out. they're going to have to be catered to. all those things that we just saw, the david was just talking about this idea that we have to investigate hunter biden as the number one priority when there's people across the country who can't pay for gasoline. that is the number one priority of marjorie taylor greene. that sort of thing, that sort of conspiracy, the 4chan caucus. this people will have power in that space. it'll be an interesting couple of years to see how they perform. >> please stick around, we'll have a lot more to discuss. up next, the ballot initiatives that are making history across

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it who wins the house and senate. but what is not being discussed so far as the number of al initiatives that actually changed the landscape for several states in our country. in response to roe v. wade being overturned, voters turned up in droves to pass ballot measures. that would protect abortion rights in five states, including places like kentucky and michigan. thanks to marijuana legalization referendums passing in maryland and missouri. there are now 21 states where anyone over the age of 21 can legally possess marijuana. that means more than 155 million americans live in states where it is legal and even as the gop were planning to go after medicaid and social security. voters in south dakota gave them a sharper rebuke. medicaid program, that covered low income residents becoming the seven state to prove it. for more on these historical results, let us bring back our sunday night panel. maya, the fact that these abortion measures passed in red states like missouri, kentucky,

shows that abortion is in not just as republicans try to portray it. an issue of the left versus the right. >> yes, and it never was. we've known from the polling for a long time and especially after the supreme court took to the first time, a fundamental right away from the american people. by taking away the right to an abortion. we saw the numbers in the polls. and what we are seeing these ballot initiatives, matches up with what people were saying across the political spectrum. most women, no matter their political persuasion. thought that there should be summer right for access to abortion. so it is not a surprise that we saw even red kentucky. stop a constitutional amendment. which would have said that the constitution of kentucky would deprive. women of the right to choose. that does matter. to what we have learned. but i also want to point out

alabama. particularly alabama on removing some of the slavery. the white supremacist provisions from its constitution. this is the same state that actually denied black voters. black congressional districts. the supreme court gave alabama win an election free card by leaving that in places. that might well have had an impact on the outcome of who controls the house. but at the same time, alabama still voted to improve their constitution and take out some of those provisions. so i just think that it shows the complexity of our politics and the fact that people are not as partisan as politicians are. >> david, how significant are these measures for issues like access to marijuana and medicaid expansion? what is the knock off effect when you think of something like legalizing marijuana or expanding medicaid? >> i think that it is a happy

panel tonight. it's an extraordinary election and i just didn't want to celebrate democracy reform in. here you have issues that are logjam in washington. no federal laws are enacted to deal with marijuana. this bitter fight over health care. and here you have south dakota deeply red state. approving a medicaid expansion. and i think that is just. great and maybe there is some referendums that liberals supported in other red states that weren't. past but it's just great to see this dynamism and pragmatism. and i was talking about. and the states where people will not vote strictly party line. and not be ideological. it's what makes sense for my state. and the medicaid thing itself, carolina when you expand health care. it's of so many other societal problems. reduces costs for so many other people. gives families and children new opportunities that they don't away about their health care. so anyway this is been a great election. >> we are all about celebrating

democracy here, it big win for democracy. something that is always welcomed on this show that is for sure. speaking of that, we also saw initiatives that were hope workers in illinois. join a union nebraska proving a adopting a 15 million dollar minimum wage increase. pretty big measures for workers in this country. and again, republicans always pretend to care about the working class, these measures did in fact pass. >> yes, i think my hit the nail on the head earlier. about young people. they are pro union, they want to get their rights in their freedoms. that's really what's going on. here we saw in colorado for example, there was a magic mushrooms thing that passed. effectively legal in colorado. and that is fun, that's interesting, let's get weird or whatever. but, it's a treatment for depression. and it is something that has

been used for a long time. now people have a lot of access to something on tiktok that we don't think. about and they want the ability to not get bankrupt by a surgery. and they want the ability to get an abortion or they want the ability to smoke marijuana or something like that. they want freedoms and they really voted for this time around. they went out and they voted. >> i think that's the best way to sum it up is that they won't freedoms. i think the mushrooms issue is pretty interesting because. as you said, you could laugh at it, but it has been used in the treatment of ptsd. with veterans, it has generated revenue for the state as we've seen in marijuana. this could also be a revenue generator for colorado. so these things, we think of them as being somewhat trivial, but the truth is that they are a little bit more complex than that. >> panel, i want to thank you very much for joining us. i, we will continue this after the break. we will talk about the connection between climate justice and social justice.

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strike. languishing in jail. i repeat, a 200 plus-day hunger strike. has reported by political was a prominent figure in the 2011 uprising in egypt. and in fact i have interviewed him many times as a reporter when i was based in cairo. he has spent a great deal of the last decade in prison. for dissent. all while his family watched in agony. apparently his persistent campaign for basic human rights have been perceived as threats to. those in positions of power in egypt. who have refused to release him on humanitarian grounds. president biden reportedly pressed about the treatment and broader human rights concerns in egypt during a bilateral meeting on friday. and u.s. national security adviser jake sullivan told reporters quote. we are doing everything that we can to secure his release. as well as the release of a number of other political prisoners. and again, i commend president

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showed to be a win for the democratic party. and democracy at large. we are now seeing national attention on some of these democratic winners. seen as the rising stars of their party. take for example gretchen whitmer in michigan. who had a double digit win against for donald trump endorsed tudor dixon. also westmore, marlins first black owner. pennsylvania governor john shapiro who defeated election denier doug mastery anna and senator john fetterman in pennsylvania who of course defeated mehmet oz. my panel is back with me to talk about these rising stars. , david let us talk about the future of the democratic party. what kind of president do you -- for 2024 and beyond. for some of the more recognizable names, to some of the ones that emerged on the scene like in florida with maxwell frost. >> charismatic, pragmatic

governors. who talk about key freedoms. reproductive rights, about elections. not allowing election deniers to take over their states. another name that has come up is jarred police in colorado. a former businessman. who expanded his win and took republican parts of the state that he did not win in a previous election he again defended abortion rights and other key issues. the democrats but also talked about bringing down crime. talk about the economy. so we have seen this in american politics. governors a marriage. bill clinton, george w. bush, and they come forward. and i think that the second biggest story in the next few months will be the democrats. and will joe biden run again? one of the names you've mentioned, if biden chooses not to run will one of these democrats be the nominee? in 2020 for >> two years is a long time away in politics. anything could happen, but obviously the lesson that democrats are going to take away from this.

there is obviously a playbook for them. now what do you think democrats need to do to keep this momentum going for the next two years? >> i think their playbook is pretty much exactly what went on for the last couple of. weeks >> focus on abortion rights. focusing on individual freedoms and the idea that you can live your own life whereas. republicans sort of shoot any idea of. moderation from their party to rally back of massachusetts he did not run again and he was replaced by a much further right candidate. and then got walloped by more gulley up there in massachusetts. and in florida, all they are doing is throwing the eggs in the culture war baskets. and with ron desantis here. and he is very big into the whole book banning and trans all. of this wild culture war stuff. and i just do not think that is where the country is headed. and the democrats tried to make that distinction pretty clear this past week. >> we've been talking over the past couple of days and been

mentioning may 1st in these. midterms >> the first trans man elected to the new hampshire state legislature. james rosen or the first black woman elected to congress in pennsylvania more healy of massachusetts. tina kotek of oregon becoming the country's first lesbian governor. many others when you consider state legislators. muslims being elected in texas and georgia and illinois. and your reaction to these historic winds in what it means for democracy going forward? >> it's one of the greatest signs of the strength of our democracy. so many. -- democracy has always been about solving a problem. of how we live together across our differences. and solve our problems. what we have seen is candidates to know and understand that. also know the experiences of a much more diverse walk of people. and one thing i think we should know even in the gubernatorial race is that when you look at

in michigan. gretchen whitmer is obviously a very strong candidate. and governor. but she also had her lieutenant governor, a black man as someone who was also younger and also going to represent that. and in maryland, not only is it a big deal that 44 year old west one. but he chose as his running mate for lieutenant governor. a room in. miller who is the first immigrant woman of color. to serve as lieutenant governor of maryland. and for what it shows us is exactly what we've always known in communities of color. and any communities that have been historically marginalized. is that we've got really brilliant, capacity and we've got heart and know with what the people need and. i think that is what we need to see in a continued building pipeline for any party. and if the republicans get wise to what people need and want, they'll get wise to unity.

they get wise to understanding human conditional experience and build a bench for this country. >> how are the republican circles on the chat forums and disinformation lines responding to this week's events? i know that there is probably an entire spectrum of responses, but what is it that you are tracking that is catching your attention at this moment? >> what is the conspiracy out there that is fueling some of? this that this was all planned right? >> yeah, you are going to believe the same, but it was rigged, the whole thing was rigged, it's so weird. now i've heard some wacky stuff, and obviously the plenty of wacky stuff out there about how they controlled the weather how it rained in nevada and trust me i've heard all of it. but i will say that in the spaces they are having a come to jesus moment about donald trump. they've done a few times in the past and they come right back to the guy. but it feels a little different this time, it just feels like there is a ready and willing substitute here in iran

desantis. who can sort of take the reins, i don't know if that is where most of the party's but right now in that space they are open to some change. not in terms of how they feel about, stuff but change in terms of who is taking the direction. >> we will see how that plays out tuesday of donald trump does announce that he is running. again david i have, to get your final thoughts because we want to end this on an optimistic note. let's talk about the youth vote, we know young lawyers really showed up for this election. and the guardian their democratic strategist joe trippy said that the younger generation is emerging with different ideas. who are not necessarily wet into the old ways of doing things. your final thoughts to close this out for us. what impact will these young voters and their newly elected candidates have on our democracy? going forward? >> they will change our society. they are buying into the peaceful transfer of power. i'm glad you brought up egypt earlier. that is a tragedy that suppression there of what's happening. so i am hopeful. it is a miracle that we have

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