tv Andrea Mitchell Reports MSNBC November 14, 2022 9:00am-10:00am PST
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right now on "andrea mitchell reports," breaking news, the campus alleged shooter is caught. breaking news from the university of virginia where police say they've got their man. the uva student who allegedly killed three uva fellow students overnight. >> we just received information the suspect is in custody. just need a moment to thank god
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and breathe a say of relief. >> we'll have the latest from charlottesville directly ahead. the high stakes summit, president biden's meeting with xi jinping in bali this morning, amidst growing trouble in taiwan, the war in ukraine and trade. >> to show that china and the united states can manage our differences for the sake of our two countries and the international community. >> here at home, democrats clinch senate majority with the weekend wins in arizona and nevada. still up in the air, a runoff battle for georgia next month and the house. as control of the house is still undecided. the cook political reports dave wasserman will be here to explain why democrats need a miracle to maintain the majority. and with more republicans blaming donald trump for their unexpected losses, the unrepentant former president is
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prepared to announce he is running again in 2024. in ukraine, president zelenskyy's surprise visit to the liberated city of kherson today prompting celebrations in the streets. >> so that has the biggest city, so ukraine came so i am happy. thank you. >> we talked to richard engel coming up. ♪♪ good day, i'm andrea mitchell in washington. president biden and china's president xi jinping had their first face-to-face meeting since mr. biden took office. they've known each other as vice presidents tackling taiwan human rights and russia's illegal invasion of ukraine. >> we had an open and candid conversation about our intentions and our priorities. it was clear he was clear and i was clear that we'll defend american interests and values, promote universal human rights and stand up for the
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international order and work in lock step with our allies and partners. we're going to compete vigorously. i'm not lacking for conflict. i'm looking to manage this competition responsibly. nbc's white house correspondent carol lee is in bali traveling with the president. this is just an extraordinarily important meeting, their first face-to-face, the president saying going in that he felt empowered as well as that personal diplomacy is so important. how are you reading the outcome? >> yeah, that's right, andrea, they met for three hours and covered a lot of territory, as you just noted. north korea, taiwan, economic issues, human rights, and the president was asked after the meeting whether there was potential for a new cold war, and he said that doesn't need to be the case, and then on specific issues, he said a number of things. he said he doesn't see any
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imminent threat of china invading taiwan. he reaffirmed the u.s.'s one china policy, which has been in question where he said that the u.s. military would come to taiwan's defense if china were to make a move there and china shot back saying this is an issue that is solely for the chinese to decide and that this is a red line for them. the president also talked about north korea. he said he's not certain that china could have the -- has the power or the persuasion to do anything about north korea, but he said he pressed upon president xi that he had an obligation to at least tray to dissuade the north koreans from launching that nuclear test that the u.s. has been so concerned about. and then on other issues, he talked about russia's war in ukraine, the two leaders both said that nuclear war and nuclear threats is not acceptable so that was a statement that the u.s. was hoping to get from the chinese, and they did. look, going into this, the white house set low expectations, they said this was a moment for the two leaders to exchange views on
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the host of issues. the president came out and said they did that. he said that he thinks that president xi is willing to compromise, and clearly they've achieved that goal of laying out where they are and see if they could move forward on a certain path because the president said he had tasked secretary of state antony blinken with going to china to follow up on these conversations. >> there was an incident with the press pool, representing the american white house producers and correspondents. the pool producer from one of the american networks shouted a question as is done, a question about whether president biden would raise the issue of human rights, and then the chinese, xi's security jumped in. tell us what happened. >> reporter: that's right. so the way that this works as you well know is the pool producer represents the rest of the press corps and she asked a question whether the president was going to raise human rights
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with president xi, and a man who was wearing a white mask with a chinese flag on it pulled her back back and pulled her back. she stumbled. she didn't fall, but lost her balance a little bit, and then two white house officials stepped in and said that she was to be left alone. so it just underscores the sort of tensions that there were going into this meeting, andrea. >> wow. and this was in -- not in china, of course. it was in indonesia, but given the circumstances obviously a country where the chinese felt empowered to do that to an american, you know, american journalist, carol lee, thank you so much. safe travels. and joining us now richard has, and ben rhodes former deputy national security adviser to president obama. welcome both. ben, this white house was lowering expectations notably for anything to come out of this statement, joint statement, joint agreement, but how do you see the outcomes here and whether or not they could reduce
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tensions? >> i mean, it's a start, but i think you don't see any big signal of. there's no announcement of a follow on meeting, whether president biden would go to china. you haven't said tony blinken continuing this conversation at a working level. you know, john kerry's been addressing climate change with his chinese counterparts, i think an effort to show that even as we disagree on a lot of things, we can try to find common ground and common solutions on issues like climate. really, i think what comes out of the meeting is the list of things where we have differences and taiwan, obviously, high up on that list, issues related to the global economy, technology, the increasing kind of industrial policy focus of the biden administration that's further breaking apart supply chains between the united states and china. really we've entered a period in which this is a competition, and all the rhetoric out of the
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white house was about managing that competition, trying to keep a lid on it, trying to keep it from spilling into conflict over a hot spot like taiwan and not about major joint initiatives that we are doing together with china or major bilateral dialogues in different areas like you might have heard in previous mrgss. so an important and necessary meeting but i think one that signals the new era we're in here, which is this is a very competitive relationship where we have dialogue about differences, not necessarily about big things we're doing together. >> and richard. as far as i know, the military to military exchanges stopped especially with the pelosi visit to taiwan and all the tension there. i don't know if that's been restored. the one china policy which was always kept to be ambiguous for decades, so is xi going to trust that? give that three times mr. biden has said the u.s. will defend
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taiwan instead of leaving that unstated? >> just to be clear, the occasions the president said the united states would defend taiwan is consistent with the one china policy. we acknowledge china's policy and the whole question of final status, the ultimate relationship between taiwan and the mainland is to be worked out by both sides without coercion, and that's our point of view. the idea that we would potentially go to bat for taiwan, which i happen to think is a necessary and good idea that is in no way consistent with the policy, that's a unilateral american stance meant to deter china and meant to reassure taiwan and japan. and the president today was very consistent. he also made clear his opposition to bilateral on either side. taiwan to declare independence,
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essentially both sides have i finessed this extraordinarily well. it's china more than anyone else that's been getting impatient, getting more muscular, so we'll see, and you know, i think we're going to have to also expect one other thing if mr. mccarthy does become speaker of the house, he's already talked about his trip to taiwan if that were to happen. that's a reminder that every now and then someone's going to throw a rock in the pond, and there's going to be something that's going to be a challenge diplomatically and that's the purpose of the today. it's not to negotiate anything. it's simply to reestablish dialogue consultations so hopefully the two governments can manage the inevitable frictions. >> that said and i acknowledge you strongly support the president's position, but others including some people inside the white house national security committee have hastened to try to clarify his past statements
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because he wasn't farther than was current u.s. policy. ben, did the president say enough about human rights today? there was that incident with the reporter, the journalist from the networks just before the meeting. >> yeah, well, you know, those incidents are not as unusual as they might seem, andrea. i mean, i actually remember getting knocked down by security way back in copenhagen in 2009. they can be very aggressive. but i do think that human rights is featured more prominently in the biden administration's message around china than previous governments and that's important, and that's necessary because we've seen increasing human rights violations coming out of china. obviously most notably with the uyghurs in shin shang province. and frankly, some of his zero covid policies that have hurt their economy, i think many analysts have suspicions that part of what's going on there is his capacity to expand that surveillance state he's built. it didn't feature in the
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messaging from president biden as much today, but i do think he's brought it to the forefront of the relationship, and frankly, interacts with what's happening in taiwan. part of what's happening is you have a country taking steps to strengthen -- taiwan you have a country that thinks of itself as a country not formally declared independence, but that has taken steps to strengthen its democracy, and you saw the biden administration include taiwan in a summit of democracies, which was provocative step towards china. this comes down to the framework. china represents the future competitive model with the united states, and i think that's a part of the competition going forward too. >> and looking at these leaders, richard, the president said he felt empowered after the midterms going into these meetings, he felt empowered because of the results for democrats over republicans in the midterm elections, but there's no comparison, you know, the chinese have a long view, as you know better than anyone,
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they're looking at a man with two years left and then, you know, where the age consideration has been raised by many people in his own party, with a bad poll number, and they're looking at themselves, china, where xi jinping with all the problems that china still has, ben has pointed out covid and a number of others domestically, he was just made dictator for life, hasn't he? >> even though president biden midnight k might only have two more years in the white house, there's no reason to believe that his successor would change things. this is a rare area of bipartisan consensus, and i'm hard press to see much, if any, difference between the trump administration's policy on china and the biden administration's. they're both very tough. secondly, i wouldn't underestimate the problems that xi jinping faces. his inbox is not one to be envied. ben already mentioned covid.
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you've not a much slowed economy. you've got water shortages. you've got more than 10 million unemployed young people. you've got demographic decline. he hitched his wagon to vladimir putin at shall we say a rather inopportune time. so yes, he's got a third term, but i don't think he's coming to this meeting with a particular position of strength. all things being equal, the last few weeks have been much better for joe biden than they've been for xi jinping. >> really good points, richard haas, ben rhodes, we appreciate your expertise. thank you. and the suspect in the university of virginia shooting is now in custody just within the last hour. at a press conference, officials identifying the shooter as a current student and former football player, christopher darnell jones, and speaking about the three victims who were killed. >> the shootings occurred on a bus full of students returning from a field trip. three of the victims did not
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survive. they were devin chandler, a second year from virginia beach, virginia, lavell davis, a third year student from richville, south korea, -- south carolina, and deshawn perry. all three were members of the football team. >> nbc news correspondent marissa par joining us from charlottesville. marissa, this is just unspeakably tragic. what more do we know about the suspect and what pd? >> reporter: certainly a somber feeling in the air. this happened around 10:30 last night, around that time, and we're learning now just from the press conference that the shooting happened on a bus full of students returning home from a field trip, and we're learning more about the victims. i want to read you the names of the three who died. it can't be said enough, devin chandler, la velle davis jr., and la shawn perry. we want to talk about the two
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who were injured. there is one in good condition, one in critical condition. it's not clear if they were part of the football team. we to know they were students and of course there was that dramatic moment in the middle of the press conference that the uva chief had someone whisper in his ear, and he stopped the press conference to relay to the rest of us that christopher darnell jones, the suspect was in custody. it is not clear where he was found but we were told it didn't happen on campus. we want to talk about some key moments in terms of his background that we learned. in september he was reported to the threat assessment team at uva for making a comment about possessing a gun to someone unaffiliated with uva. during the course of the investigation they spoke with his roommate. his roommate said they never saw a gun, but it's important to note here, andrea, that even though this comment was made, it was not paired with a threat. there was another prior incident involving a concealed weapon and last february outside of charlottesville, jones was required to report this to the campus. he did not.
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and then there was a vague reference made to an investigation into hazing. there was no further details relayed into this. of course all of these are things that we're looking into as jones is facing three counts of second degree murder and weapons charges. >> marissa, thank you very much for being with us. such a terrible story. the waiting game, unresolved midterm races mean for control of congress in 2024. this is "andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc reports" on msnb (bridget vo) with thyroid eye disease... i hid from the camera. and i wanted to hide from the world. for years, i thought my t.e.d was beyond help... ...but then i asked my doctor about tepezza. (vo) tepezza is the only medicine that treats t.e.d. at the source not just the symptoms. in a clinical study, more than 8 out of 10 patients taking tepezza had less eye bulging. tepezz an infusion. patients taking tepezza may have infusion reactions.
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been -- i mean, mark kelly won another senate term, but maricopa county still is counting votes and they have not yet determined who's going to be the governor. >> yeah, six days later, we're still counting votes here in arizona, but we have to be down to the wire because there's only a certain amount of ballots left to be counted, only about 160,000 left in the state, less than that here in maricopa where the lion's share and what will determine this race for governor, less now than 100,000 total. there's about 26,000 votes between hobbs and lake with hobbs in the lead. and while lake is cutting into that lead certainly, the last few days of returns have been in favor of lake, analysts say it's simply not enough. she's not hitting specific targets that she really kneads to hit to stay relevant the , to stay neck in neck in this race. yesterday it would have been 55%, she was below that, which puts a lot of pressure on her
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for tonight. when we get a fresh batch from maricopa county. we will wait and see what that lax like. meanwhile, she's been casting doubt on the election process accusing officials of slow rolling the vote. we spoke to those election officials here in maricopa, here's what they told us about what's happening. listen to this. >> we have some of the most dedicated election officials here, and we are so proud of them. they are putting in hours away from their families to be able to get these results out as quickly as possible, and what i will tell you is this is fast for maricopa county. it usually takes us anywhere between 10 and 12 days to complete the count, and we think we're going to be done by the end of this week. >> reporter: still close but no cigar. we may be able to call it tonight based upon what we see with those returns, but there is still the possibility of an automatic recount if it's within about a half point or so. andrea. >> yeah, and steve, they did declare the democrat the winner
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in the secretary of state job over the weekend, but one of those house seats did go to the republican. priscilla thompson in atlanta, less pressure now on raphael warnock now that the senate majority has been determined, but it's still important if they get 51 votes, democrats did not need to power share with the republicans, 50/50 on all committees, they can control most of the committees, which determines whether some of their nominees can get out without very complicated processes to get to a floor vote. >> reporter: yeah andrea, democrats and republicans alike not letting up here, even if there is less pressure in this race. both candidates getting out on the campaign trail in the three weeks leading up to election day 2.0. there are challenges for both parties here. for democrats it's always the question of a turnout in a
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runoff. of course democrats were able to do that two years ago and eking out a win in two of those senate runoff races. herschel walker will also have contend with the turnout issue. we know he did not keep pace with governor brian kemp in the general election, and i spoke to voters at his event yesterday about if this race still matters given that control of the senate doesn't hinge on it and what kneads to change for his campaign. take a listen to what they shared with me. >> i think the republicans need to change their message up and get out there more and just do more grass roots, even if it's going to be 50/50, we still need to get herschel in and keep the democrats from getting 51/49. very important. >> reporter: that woman there cheryl said grass roots means knocking on doors and talking to voters about their candidate,
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herschel walker. >> there was also that libertarian third-party candidate with 2% of the vote. where will those votes go? they're up for grabs. steve patterson, priscilla thompson, thanks so much. joining us is mark murray and cook political report house prognosticator, dave wasserman. i want to get some of these numbers straight. we've been reporting our decision desk that 18 races are still not called for. you said that democrats need a miracle to hold onto the chamber. so you've drilled down on these individual house races. tell us where you see the best advantage, i guess, for the republicans in the remaining house districts. >> yeah, andrea, democrats have needed to run the table on the remaining outstanding very close races, that path has involved three critical seats arizona's first district, arizona's sixth district and california's 41st
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district, and last night the counts weren't what democrats needed in those three seats. while nbc news has not called those races, it's now going to take a miracle in order to get them back in contention. the most likely results hear is that republicans end up with somewhere along -- around 219, 220 or 221. seats, which is pretty astonishing considering ha republicans are currently on track to win about 4% more votes than democrats nationally. >> let's talk about what we've learned from, for instance, what's happened out in maricopa county, what's left out there in terms of how the vote keeps, you know, coming in, despite all of what has been said by donald trump and other recollection election deniers and kelli ward who's falling behind for the
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governor's race. maricopa county has some of the best vote counting processes because of past problems. >> yeah, andrea, they have a who the -- whole lot of practice. we saw this in 2018, we saw it in 2020 and we're seeing it again in 2022. what ends up going on is there's this ping-pong of like where the votes are in particular counties and even in counties like maricopa. that's the phoenix area. you have republican pockets and democratic pockets and different vote messages. last night was supposed to be a really good batch of votes for kari lake, the republican running, and she ended up winning them but not by the margins you need to be able to have. with katie hobbs now having a 26,000 vote margin, for kari lake to be able to win the remaining returns have to be not only good but certainly great, and the hobbs campaign after the latest batch of ballots ended up declaring her as the unequivocal
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front runner or favorite to be able to win. it's important to know that nbc has only referred to this race as too close to call, but certainly does seem to be that katie hobbs, the democratic nominee is in the driver's seat. >> and dave wasserman, let's go to colorado where lauren boebert looks like she's ahead. is she ahead? that's still undecided. you also have an upstate new york race that's not decided, but most of the undecided seats are in california, which has always been slow. >> right, and in colorado's third district, lauryn boebert is ahead by over 1,100 votes, and there are some remaining votes to be counted, perhaps overseas or provisional ballots, but she is the favorite in this vote count at the moment and you know what's striking is that when republicans are winning the vote nationally, but only winning a minuscule or on track to win a minuscule majority in the house, that's a sign that something's gone terribly wrong for their party, and what
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happened was in the swing districts, problematic republican candidates including lauryn boebert, joe kent in washington state, bo heinz in north carolina, they ended up costing republicans what would be an easy majority. >> and also, david, there were a report breaking number of lgbtq candidate who won their midterm races. you've got 400 of these candidates breaking the 2020 record and oregon and massachusetts electing their first lesbian governors. that's a changing cultural issue. >> that is. and in addition there was an openly gay republican elected on long island, george santos. one of the way republicans were able to win a handful of the seats they did was by nominating candidates who didn't look or sound like donald trump or didn't fit the typical profile of the republican party. >> and just very briefly, mark,
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also let's talk about some of the issues that maybe didn't show up in exit polls but may have had an impact. speaker pelosi acknowledging to a question from my friend danna dana bash this weekend that the violence against her husband paul the week before the election, and the republican cruel responses by donald trump and others, glenn youngkin apologized later. that might have had an influence on boosting the sort of this is intolerable, the democracy factor, the civility factor. >> yeah, andrea, i mean something did change in the race the last week, week and a half. i don't know if it was the attack on paul pelosi or others. even our nbc news poll found that democrats ended up increasing their enthusiasm. was that just natural kind of coming back, particularly even after a lot of the reports about remember going into the last week or two, the story was republicans are the ones in the driver's seat. it the pelosi attack, was it
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that democrats were more motivated. democrats did turn out, which is one of the ways you end up not only potential losses in a midterm but end up doing as well as they ended up doing. something was certainly pointing their direction the last week, week and a half of the election. >> mark murray as always, david wasserman, thanks so much. stay close by, both of you guys. and deposition day, donald trump's last ditch effort to avoid the january 6th committee's subpoena. that's coing next. this is "andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc. nd new trading opportunities while an earnings tool helps you plan your trades and stay on top of the market
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let's bring in frank figliuzzi, former fbi assistant director for counterintelligence and former u.s. attorney har harry litman, frank, you're here, i haven't seen you forever it seems, but we've talked a lot on television. and off. so tell us what do you think is going on with this subpoena? are they ever going to see these records? >> it seems often when we talk, we're talking about delays and trump and his legal team, and he's done it again. the good news and bad news here, this lawsuit will likely outlive the length of the life of the committee, we understand that. when it comes to the documents, and that's what i'm focused on far more than testimony in person by donald trump, understand this, there are other ways to get your hands on communications. there are other people in those communications often, right?
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you go another supreme court as the supreme court allowed today, you can go to the phone call and ask what happened. there are other ways of getting their hands on this data, but it's another example of trump thumbing his nose at the rule of law. >> can you go to the phone calls or is that only with a judge on those kind of electronics. >> the committee and the doj can go and probably have to the carriers individually and the platforms and say we need what you have, and my bet is they've done that. >> and harry litman, let's talk about the lawsuit, the trump lawsuit claiming that a former president has, quote, absolute immunity from being compelled to testify before congress or a committee thereof regarding his actions as head of the coequal branch of government. so you're the expert, but i seem to recall other presidents testifying, bill clinton, he was impeached -- richard nixon turned over the tapes.
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>> you're exactly right. many other former presidents have testified. they did it, however, voluntarily. the only direct on point example is harry truman, who, in fact, did refuse, and based on that the department of justice has said in the past you can't compel a former president, and there's an opinion by justice kavanaugh suggesting the same. trump doesn't need to win this. he needs to things to happen. he needs a court to be interested in it enough to take the time as frank says to outlive the subpoena, and then he needs this apparent sliver of a majority that's emerging for the republicans in the house to hold and dissolve the subpoena when they take power. the actual argument is mott silly, and a court could look at it and take it seriously. they also cowl move through it very quickly, but he is banking on an ultimate backstop in the supreme court saying we'll look
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at the issue, and that will definitely run out the clock. >> and so frank, nbc news was first to report on the january 6th committee's final report. what are we sensing might be in that final report? >> i was dismayed by the reporting and i hope that it's wrong. what the reporting is telling us that the committee report in its final version may not go there where it comes to fbi failures, general law enforcement failures leading up to and on january 6th. if that's right, it's troubling and it's disappointing because i think that would leave a huge gap in the work of the committee. we do know there was something called a blue committee that looked at law enforcement failures. they interviewed over 100 people in those agencies. we need to hear the results of those interviews. >> and harry, finally, there's a separate but related topic, which has come wants to weaponize the irs against
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james comey, former deputy director mccabe. it seems to me, you know, that's smithsonian. that would be another impeachable offense if true and if followed up. of course it's too late for that. >> that's exactly the word for it, and a law was passed after nixon to make it a crime, and here are the facts. he exhorted john kelly, his chief of staff who has now been pretty blunt about what a disaster of a president he was to do this, but kelly say he prevented it when he was there. trump said, oh, i don't know anything about it. both comey and mccabe were audited and in each case that year the irs decided to audit something like 5,000 of 150 plus million taxpayers. you do the math. the only thing that stands between this is and the charge is trump's denial of it and of course at this point that's not worth very much. so something really does seem
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fishy and unlawful about it. >> frank figliuzzi, harry litman, thanks so much both of you. and breaking up, as donald trump prepares to make his 2024 plans official tomorrow, are republicans ready to stand by him or find another candidate after these losses. you're watching "andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc.
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reckless. it's clear he decided to be part of the problem. >> former vice president mike pence on abc news calling out donald trump's actions, calling them reckless during the january 6th attack on the capitol putting husband life and his family's life in jeopardy. his first comments coming a day before the former vice president's memoir is to be published. perhaps not coincidentally also the day donald trump has chosen to announce his third run for the white house, despite a growing list of party members urging him to wait at least until after the georgia runoff. let's get right to charlie sykes, victoria defrancesco soto and jeff basin what housereuter. we're told that the placards he's choosing, what kind of message similar to his 2016 announcement. there will be a speech presumably on teleprompters, but
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voters widely rejected all of that last week, the election denialism, the attacks against, you know, desantis, glenn youngkin. you call it the maga meltdown after so many trump backed candidates lost their midterms. is the party doing any soul searching? >> well, they are, but it might not make a difference because donald trump doesn't care what the party thinks. look, he faces the narrative that he's the big loser and that the party is prepared to move on from him, so he needs to change that narrative and reassert his dominance in the party, which is what he's going to do tomorrow. i think that even though the party would love to turn the page, we've been here before. we have seen this before and what donald trump is signaling and has signaled over the weekend and throughout much of his career is he doesn't care who he hurts. he's prepared to burn down the house, so the ultimatum he's going to give to the republicans is it's either me or it is
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armageddon, and the fact that he is ignoring all the pleas to delay this. the fact that he's having this announcement in the face of those electoral defeats before the georgia runoff, basically reminds people that donald trump is in for donald trump. you have a. >> if donald trump does announce tomorrow, that is significantly earlier than other presidents announcing their second term announcements. i believe barack obama was in april. is there any way, any chance that this would get joe biden to announce his intentions to clarify them even sooner because trump is out there? >> i don't think so, and that's largely because the president said at his press conference he's thinking about it, was planning to run but wouldn't likely make his final decision until early next year. the white house is also saying
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trump's decision to jump into race is not having an impact on biden. i think that's hard to believe, particularly because president biden basically kicked off his last presidential election as wanting to be that counterpoint to trump. i think he still sees that as a very important part of his personal and political mission. >> and still believes that he's the only one who has defeated trump head to head and can. >> i think that's a big part of his thinking. that said the republican field is going to be bigger than trump and to what extent we find out about other people who will be trying to go against him in the coming weeks and months. we'll see if that has an impact on biden as well. >> and to victoria, there are pros and cons to such an early rollout. for trump one of the biggest could possibly be preventing or complicating a potential indictment. there's also a list of reasons not to including losing republican cash, you know,
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paying his legal bills right now, as soon as he announces, he's going to be responsible for the campaign travel as well. >> sure, andrea, i just don't see any reason for trump not to announce, and you know, hanging off of what charlie says, there's the pushback against the narrative of reframing a bit. no, he's not the biggest loser even though a lot of the backed candidates did not win. i want to put another twist on here, which is that donald trump is very good at casting himself as the victim against the establishment, against the unfair powers that be, so i would not be surprised that in shedding out of the narrative of not being the biggest loser, but of being the target and needing folks to rally around him to push against the bad forces, to push against the rinos that this is where he is at his best.
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i think tomorrow night we're going to see a very powerful showing of donald trump. >> and charlie, only once before has a losing presidential candidate announced and won. that's richard nixon of course in 1968. so why would the party, especially when this was a referendum on a lot of election deniers and other trump candidate on the senate side, why would they go for him? >> well, it depends on who you mean by the party. donald trump is still dominant with the republican base. at minimum he has 30% hardcore, and he's prepare to take that with him. we've seen this before. look, donald trump remembers 2015, 2016 where the establishment, thedonor class lined up against him. he's going to try and run as the insurgent, the outsider, as somebody taking down the establishment.
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that's where he is comfortable. the two massively huge wild cards here are the indictments and whether anyone like a ron desantis is willing to pull the trigger. you know, will ron desantis actually be willing to put himself on the line knowing what donald trump will say and do about him. we don't know who will actually run if he gets in, and what are the impact of the indictments. and whether or not he'll be able to reproduce the magic from 2016 and just roll through the primaries. >> i could tell you too i've got my eye on from the experience of my covering them is mike pence and of course i want to dip into your deep knowledge in austin as well. pew research says 34.5 million latinos were eligible to vote this year. democrats did well with texas, nevada. republicans gaining ground in florida.
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it is part of a whole national background. >> the latino electorate is a diverse electorate. the last several election cycles as democrats became more democratic. we forgot to have a swing component. the political environment in florida, as with everyone else in the state is really bringing latinos with them into the gop base where we are still seeing the same old trends we had seen in the west and in the northeast with latinos leaning democrat but still having a little bit of a chunk that swings either way. >> victoria, thank you so much,
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president volodymyr zelenskyy celebrated. his visit was brief. >> how are you feeling? >> very well today. be careful. >> i understand there is a lot of security here. >> yeah. >> how is the moment for you? >> the moment is very important. that is the biggest city that was occupied since the 24th of february. so that was the biggest city and now it's free. so ukraine came so i am happy. thank you. >> the occupation of kherson came early and was brutal. so the joy and relief now is profound. everyone wants to thank a ukrainian soldier and collect autographs. there haven't been many scenes like this in europe since american g.i.s helped defeat the nazis. a ukrainian soldier oleg was one
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of the first rush anything to see his grandmother, his babuschka, who collapses to her knees. lydia hadn't seen the reunion video until now. >> what was that moment like? i was so, so happy to see him, my grandson that he is running to me, that he is alive. she watches the video again and again and kisses oleg on the screen. and months of fear and uncertainty well up and come touring out. it was overdue. thank you. thank you for everything, she says. i had no words. kherson was the first city russia captured after it invaded. president putin annexed it declaring the conquered territory to be forever bonded to russia.
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