war. and he promised to liberate all of ukraine. >> let's say that again, the beginning of the end of the war. we can only hope. our thanks to richard angle for that special report. and, on that note, from our nation's capital i wish you all a good night. from all of our colleagues across the networks of nbc news, thanks for staying up late, i will see you at the end of tomorrow. tomorrow right off the top here, i want to tell you that we're gonna be joined live by chuck schumer when the country learns this weekend that the democrats will hold on to their senate seat in nevada, this, weekend that katherine cortez masto will be

reelected as a democratic u.s. senator from nevada. we also learned, in that moment, officially, that democrats will numerically retain control of the senate next year. senator chuck schumer, the majority leader of the united states senate, is going to be joining us live here and in just a moment. i have some of the things that i want to ask him about what is about to happen. next here. but first, as chris and i were just discussing, just in the last half, hour we got a new phone numbers from maricopa county, arizona which is the population center in the state of arizona. those numbers turned out to be decisive in a very closely watched race between democrat katie hobbs and trump endorsed republican, kari lake. and and seniors has not projected within the last 15 to 20 minutes that democrat katie hobbs is going to be the winner of that governor's race in arizona. and that means a lot for arizona. it also means bigger picture, republicans lost a large the u. s. senate race in arizona, they lost a marquee race in arizona,

they also lost the hotly contested fraud rays of a secretary of state in arizona. where he said he wouldn't allow republican election results to be certified unless they should republican votes winning. i would like to mention that the attorney general's race is not called at the spine. the arizona attorney general's race is between democratic maze and another trump endorsed republican abe on monday. it's consistently been a closer margin than the governor's race although you see there's about 4000 votes between them. again, the governor's race has now been called for the democratic candidate the arizona attorney general sprays still at this point too close to call. with all that to understand and with anticipation of what else we might hear over the course of the night, no rest for the wicked, let's go right back to msnbc's national political correspondent steve kornacki at the big board. steve, we got the call, we know the top line result out of arizona. can you tell us anything about based on what is still outstanding, how narrow the

margin is likely to be at the end of the day in this race? >> yeah, i mean there's still some possibilities here that this could get closer. one variable here is how are the provisional ballots -- the ballots that were cast provisionally, is subject to post election verification. how are they going to break? we actually saw donald trump in arizona did fairly well with those back in 2020. there is another issue in maricopa county. that was by far the both of the vote that had just come in and maricopa county that put katie hobbs at the top of the governor's race. there's still a small share, a couple of thousand votes that were cast if you are following on election day, there was some issues at polling places throughout maricopa county. ballots were sort of -- voters were having issues being able to close ballots. they were cast a ballot three as a calling it. there is still --

voters who went to the polls to vote on election day. we talked about how election day voters are more republican friendly crypt in early speaking. so there's a possibility there that in that few thousand that remain and up-to-date votes -- there's still a possibility for republican success. not so much in terms of the outcome of the governors, race but you mentioned it. i think that looms large what i'm describing right here in the race for attorney general where the margin for the democrats is 4100, basically 4095. the uncertainty i'm describing around how the provisionals will break about how those remaining same-day votes will break in maricopa county, about the scattering of votes from these various counties around the state, scattering types of votes from these counties around the state exactly how that will break as well, i think is going to determined's attorney generals raise where hamadeh is still in. he is within striking distance

at least theoretically of maize after that last update from maricopa county. that's just the difference between being 4000 behind and being 20,000 and change behind. even with all those uncertainties that were describing, you can't see a way for like to overcome her 20,481 vote deficit. her campaign,, again has been made so much on that idea that the vote that just came out of maricopa county the mail-in ballots that were delivered on election day, is just a huge chunk of the vote in maricopa, at least 300,000 votes in the county where cats that way. there were big -- heavy lee republican, constantly like 60% plus republican. and she just hit one of her better updates with it, but really hit 57%. so just wasn't hitting her numbers there with that vote. folks on the senate side, the masters, folks we're talking about a couple of days ago that that was going to look blake masters in the senate raising clearly didn't. so republicans in these late votes coming in, in maricopa county, have been making up ground, have been doing well

sort of just in the rule numbers. but not enough to overcome the advantage the democrats had built in at least three of these races. but, again the tierney generals race is a question. mark and i should add to, the other piece of this is arizona is crucial for the battle for the control of the house of representatives where the republicans still don't have those 218 seats locked up. there are two, you see them in gray, two outstanding districts in arizona. democrats if they want to have a path to 2:18, these are two very important districts. and here, here is maricopa -based for his district for republican dave schweikert. that last update, it was good for him because his lead was under 1000, now it sits over 3000. with that update. so you see, he was in a better position coming in ben kari lake. was he benefits from these vote. so now republicans are feeling a lot better in the first

district of arizona. and in the sixth district to where it's now republican, but it's going to 3500. it's interesting as democrats are now gunning for a statewide suite in arizona, is very possible they can go four for four in the statewide offices. the other news out of tonight in arizona concerns control for the house. in two districts that the democrats i think really, if they want to stick together to 18 scenario, maybe slipping away from them at the same time. >> steve, in terms of the overall status of the house, again, this is not an exact science, but in terms of the remaining house races around the country that are still undecided, do you suspect that we're going to have enough results, races potentially called tonight in any of those races? i'm thinking about whether or not we're gonna be looking at a projection of house control by one of the two parties sometime soon. >> i, mean what you can see

here -- here's what you're looking at. this is -- red are the republican, one blue or the democratic, when you are the uncalled. there are now 212 republican seats in the new house, there will be at least 206 democrats seats. there are 17 that we have yet to call that nbc as it took. also republicans would need six from this list. they need to pick up -- they need succeeds here and get to 18. so i just showed you, arizona won, they got very good news out of arizona won, arizona six, they've got very good news out of arizona six. we gotta not called at either of those races but republicans definitely today, on yesterday

for the, matter but districts got the numbers they were looking for. what else on this list is looking like it's trending in their direction? there are a few. new york, 22 for instance. almost all the vote is in, republicans are sitting in the league for of over 4000. first this is the syracuse area. it's hard to see -- just as i say, it's hard to see -- i said it was hard to see the math for care, like it's hard to see the math for democrats in a place like. does the 45th district of california. we have a new vote update just within the last, our michele, still the republican her lead actually expanded a little bit over jay cheng, two votes of the vote is in right there. the 27 districts here, mark garcia the republican leading by nearly ten points over christie smith. kristie smith all but conceded this race on twitter yesterday. the 41st district of california now we're about two thirds of the vote is, and kim calvert's lead is expended just about

1400 votes or so. this evening. so what sort of emerging here, new york 22 is, one california 45 is to, california 27 is three, california 41, is for, arizona one could be five, arizona six could be -- i could've just given you the six seats here that would get the republicans to 2:18. if the republicans go to six for six in the states i just showed you, and they're feeling good about their standing in all of them, that's 2:18. so democrats need to step up and need to win at least one of those six that i showed you, and then they would need some more democrats would need more bricks because you would take a look at the 22nd district of california, it's extremely slow to count. here but david valadao, the republican incumbent here in the central valley with ali just under 3000 votes, this is what democrats would need to pick up. we have the lowered both race out of western colorado. i don't think we're expecting to learn more about this until

thursday were so, but bullpit has that advantage on votes there. i would say right now if you look at this -- the path to republicans getting to 2:18 is clear, what it could look like. but getting all of those races actually called, especially given the pace of the vote count in california, maybe a different story. may take a little bit more time just because, again you take a look at a race like the 41st in california, it's 5400 votes, you still have a third for the vote to come. and there's still a little bit of uncertainty there perhaps in some of these races. >> patience, patience grasshopper. patience that's what we've been learning here. steve, much appreciated my friend, thank you so much. feel free to be interrupted if any time you have something determinative. >> you got. it >> we're gonna get to our top story tonight. nbc news has just projected just within the last half hour that democrat katie hobbs has defeated trump endorsed republican candidate kari lake in the arizona governor's race. now, after a call like that, what happens next in arizona to be simple and straightforward. we know how these things are supposed to.

eric the loser get scenes defeat, the state certifies the election, we all agree that we shake hands and battle about again in the next election. in arizona, it is not as clear this is that that is what is going to happen. the losing republican candidate for arizona secretary of state, mark finchem, who i mentioned earlier. he posted on twitter just hours ago, we are not. conceding and we are fighting. if you're wondering what exactly he's fighting, since its projected loss three days ago, mark finchem has been posting conspiracy theories on social media about george soros and cryptocurrency, i don't know, the using republican -- the losing republican u.s. senate candidate, blake masters has also so far refused to concede. on friday, he told fox news that bexar county should stop its vote count and start all over from scratch.

he hasn't said that he will concede if he loses -- he actually lost. he said he will concede if he loses after every legal vote is counted. not to be done for republican president -- he's not just calling for a recount in maricopa, he's calling for a completely new election in arizona. didn't get the way he wanted to so he wants the election to be redone. his candidates lost, therefore it must of been stolen or at least we should just do it again anyway. his former advisers podcast, or steve bannon, said somehow the results in arizona should not be certified. he said on his podcast that the certification of arizona should somehow be blocked. i don't know how he intends to do that. but it's an open question what kari lake is going to do now that nbc news has projected that she has lost the race for governor. both she and the republican candidate for arizona's

attorney general whose race has not yet been called, they are both alleging egg voter suppression against their voters somehow in arizona. just a couple of hours, ago kari lake went on fox news and called the election there in arizona a, quote, botched. she said she does not know what the remedy for that should be but she says she doesn't know how you can certify an election that was so clearly botched. she also said that she just knows that the people of arizona wouldn't vote for her opponent. secretary of state, katie hobbs. remember, arizona has been the sight of some intense protests sparked by election denial including armed protesters turning up outside the maricopa county center after the 2020 election.

that same vote counting centers now the sight of some renewed protests, the protesters are smaller than two years ago. that could also be because of the heavy security barriers and fences and sheriffs deputies that officials felt the need to put there this year. joining us now from arizona is devoun went to the senate says she covers voting issues in arizona for the washington post. miss sanchez, i thank you for joining us and we appreciate you being here. >> thanks for having me. >> first of, all let me ask you if anything that i've described about the situation in arizona is the wrong way around or if i said anything wrong. and let me ask you to update us based on reporting in terms of how people are responding to the results there. >> i think you've conveyed everything exactly how it has played out. we are all very closely watching kari lake to see how she is going to maneuver her way through this. her entire campaign for the past year plus has been premised on the notion that an election was stolen from former president donald trump. she seems to be hearing from various voices, in terms of the former president, about what

her next move should be. she clearly thinks this election was botched, she's citing problems with printers that had issues, pointing out ballots on demand. on election day, county officials have repeatedly said since election day that everyone was able to cast their vote. that no one was disenfranchised. yet, she seems to -- think that there were some legal path forward to try to contest some of the results that perhaps are being excepted on katie hobbs's behalf. she's trying to figure out is she going to go all in on the stop the steal notion. is she going to go all in on do not certify. is she going to, at some point, acknowledge that she lost? and i think that remains an open question. she's been holed up at times in the past week with various

republican operatives. some of him are trying to force or to concede, to walk away and to continue to have a place in the republican party, not just here in arizona but beyond. there's another crowd that seems to be advocating for her to go a little tougher, perhaps, taking a page out of trump's playbook in post-2020. >> in terms of the atmosphere in arizona, i think that when you're anticipating potentially anti-small d democratic developments, one of the things that you have to think about in terms of giving up the likely eventualities is how many democratic opportunities there are four people who feel aggrieved to have their concerns addressed within the system. to that end, if kari lake and people like steve bannon today started probable ties-ing the idea of certifying the election, is there any legal, need is there within the process means to try to block or delay or challenge the certification? and similarly, is their provision by which kari lake might simply ask or be granted a recount given the closest of the vote? >> that would have to go all the way up through the court system. i presume at some point on some of these various issues. we are going to get that, we

are going to see what this looks like perhaps. the board of supervisors had said repeatedly over the past several months, anticipating that there could be problems like this, that they would certify this election. this is a board that came under intense scrutiny in 2020, after donald trump lost, kelly, wore the state republican chair, rudy giuliani, others were trying to get these supervisors to not fulfill their duty to certify the election. this board has said we are going to do our jobs. we are not going to be intimidated out of doing our jobs. so we will see what the messaging ends up looking like, with any sort of legal maneuvers could develop over the coming days from lakes camp. but as far as the board of supervisors's concern, they're gonna be supervising. results >> washington post recover reporter recovering i was on it, is joining us tonight on the big news that the democratic candidate has been projected as the winner and the big governors, race thank you very much for, time i really appreciate it. >> thank you. i know we are on days six of this election now but it is -- it is important to know that there's a whole bunch of races that are still nail-biter, snow biters with significant political impact. tech for instance the race for the state house eat representing the 142nd legislative district in bucks

county, pennsylvania. i know you've been laser focused on on it at home. that race is currently separated by 114 votes. but i will tell you why that race has potentially national implications. right, now republicans have 100 seats. in the pennsylvania state legislature. pennsylvania state house. republicans have 100. seats democrats have 100 seats. in the pennsylvania state house. it is 100 to 100 in pennsylvania right now. pennsylvania democrats have said that they are going to reclaim the pennsylvania house which i think would be the first time in more than a decade that they have been in control there. but there are three races left there to be called. one of them will be settled by a special election because the democrat who won that seat hadley last week had actually died before election day. that seat will likely go democratic a day. bucks county, raised its separated by 114 votes, then there is a montgomery pennsylvania race that

separated by 14 votes. literally, 14 votes. so partisan control of the pennsylvania state house and all that means. it might change hands for the first time in 12 years. but it's gonna come down to one race that is about 100 votes and one race that's about it doesn't. just in case you needed motivation to know that your vote really counts. also, we're looking at the mayoral race for the second largest city in the country. that race is still up in the air. the wisconsin's secretary of state's race is separated by 0. 3% of the vote with 99% of the vote in. right, now the republican candidate for governor in alaska is way ahead of his opponents but alaska rank choice date so that raises still a live wire until the right choice system gets his way to the end. and then of course there's control of the u.s. house of representatives in washington.

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choice, they can continue to let the maga hard right lead them, that is a path to failure, or the group that was not my gut that can work with us on important issues to benefit the american people. i say to the republican senators, and to leader mcconnell we are willing to work with you to get things done for the american people. it's not going to be everything your party wants for sure it's not even gonna be everything we want but it will be a lot done and we're not gonna forsake our principles for it but we will

get it done. >> that was senator chuck schumer speaking yesterday. the first time senator schumer learned that his party had won the senate, would be majority leader of the senate. and generous six, 2021, while the attack on the u.s. capitol was underway. jerry fifth 2021 was the day of the two senate runoffs in georgia, it was on january 6th while the capitol was under siege that the results came in showing the democratic candidates had won those georgia runoffs the democrats had had won control of the senate, and senator chuck schumer would take over as the man in charge. that was how he learned last time. that was the circumstances of how he learned last time. this time, much better vibe. this time he learned it at a chinese restaurant while he was out to dinner with his wife on saturday night. on saturday with the win of nevada of the incumbent senator cortez masto, senator chuck schumer learned over fortune cookies, that again solids, against history, the democrats

will uphold the senate and he would remain leader. senator cortez masto's win and mark kelly's win in arizona the night before, i should say that senator schumer also maintains his perfect record of having every one of his democratic u.s. senators reelected since he has been their majority leader. none of them have -- the georgia runoff election this year will determine the size of senator schumer's majority. but it will be his majority anyway. joining us now live is senator chuck schumer. senator, thank you so much for making time to be here tonight. congratulations. >> it was good at that restaurant. people got on their emails that we had one in the whole restaurant broke out in tears. it was beautiful. >> oh wow. i hope you left the big tip. >> thank you. i'm a big tipper. let me get your response

tonight of the new news that we got in the last half an hour so in the last 45 minutes and i was ana -- katie hobbs has defeated republican kari lake in that state. well, it's great news, obviously. kari lake was a very dangerous person. very smooth talking, but very dangerous. and had hard right views. if she is defeated in a state like arizona, which is a purple state, it should sound another shock wave through the republican -- when you embrace this maga republican right wing extremism, you lose. candidate after candidate had lost, and just about every one of the extreme people who want to undo the next election, who denied this election, they all lost. as i've said, i hope this is a lesson to the mainstream republicans. we don't agree with the

mainstream republicans on so many different things, but i hope it's a lesson to them that if they embrace this maga republican trumpism, they're gonna lose. the american people -- a lot of people doubted the fidelity of democracy, and with reason. we saw the election deniers -- when you're a political party that denies an election but the beginning of autocracy and the end of democracy. they saw these election deniers, they saw the violence on january 6th, they saw much of the threats of violence, even against innocent poll workers who are trying to do their jobs. they said, democracy is a voting. -- democracies rates may be quiet but they run deep, and the american people, not just democrats, but moderates and conservatives, say this maga republican party is against everything that democracy is

all about. i can't vote for them. and i predicted this in august. i said that would be about ten to 15% of the electorate who normally might vote republican who are gonna not vote for them for this embrace of maga. so my hope, my plea, really, the non maga republicans in the senate, is, work with us. we will be willing to compromise, because the second reason -- we've got real things done. we took on big oil and -- we took on pharma and finally

-- we passed some good gun legislation. the people sought to things. they sauce fighting for things that carried about and succeeding. and they saw the republicans of the maga extreme. you put those two things together with the fine candidates we ran, we were very decent, honorable, and successful, effective people, and that clinched the election for us. this will happen again if the republicans continue to embrace micah. so a warning, the clarion call to the non maga republicans, is work with us. and people say they won't, well, one other point of the six major bills we passed in june, july, and august -- five were bipartisan. the big one, i. r. a., was not. republicans wouldn't do

anything on climate. but things like the gun bill, the chip spell, which brought american jobs back here, and said we're not gonna let trying to take over or any other country take over our chip industry, the veterans administration had to deal with the veterans who were exposed -- all of those and many other things passed in a bipartisan way. so i'm hopeful, and i'm an optimist, you know me well, that they're gonna do that. they're gonna say that half doesn't work. we don't mean -- we don't even need half. we just need a group we can work with, and were willing to meet them part of the way. we're not gonna give up our principles, but meet them part of the way to get more things done for the american people. >> let me ask about one of these that's gonna come up fairly quick. i understand that you, today, filed closure on a bill to codify marriage equality, to make a federal law that same sex couples have the right to marry. clearly, you are worried that the conservative majority on the supreme court is basically coming for peoples marriages and they're gonna try to take away that right. what's your expectation in terms of moving closer on this today --

will be the first votes on wednesday. are you expecting -- supporting this? >> are to lead republicans on this, i asked two people to be our leaders on this. tammy baldwin and kirsten sumnima. they came back, and when it first came in the house, 30 republicans voted for marriage equality, much to our surprise and delight. put it right on the floor, some people said. well, sinema and baldwin, our leads on this said to us, we're not gonna get the votes if you do it now, but we're quite certain that if you do it after the election, we will get it done. and my job is to get things done. get things done. i know that some people say, just make it an issue. so where the republicans are. the american people, and particularly lgbtq+ people, you want the right to marry, and by the way, it's quite personal to me. i have a daughter who has a beautiful life, and they're expecting a baby in a few months. people want us to get things

done. people want to get things don. and i'm optimistic, based on what i know and what i had to lead senator snow. that we will get the votes to get this time, and it'll say to that supreme court, just like we want to say to them, get your hands often are women's bodies, we want to say, figurative course, we want to say to them, let people marry who they live, period. >> your majority will either be 50/50, vice president harris as a tie breaker, or it'll be 50 1:49 depending what happens with senator warnock's runoff election in georgia on december 6th. can you explain to me and to our audience with the practical difference is in terms of how the senate runs? obviously, you can it 50/50 these last couple years. it required a power sharing agreement with the republicans. how different would the senate be, how different would your life be, how different would your ambitions be if it was 50 1:49 instead of 50/50? >> it's not 1% difference. it's very different, for the better. from one thing, anytime a judge

or a nominee to the administration -- we've had a lot of good, progressive nominees, gets a vote out of the committee that's 10:10, that's tired, it delays things for a week. you have to go to the floor, you have to get the time, and you have to bring kamala harris there, and do what's called a motion to discharge after the committee. if we have 51, they'll be no more motions to discharge. it'll mean appointees and judges will get appointed much more quickly, and you know, we've had a great record with judges. we set the record as of today, actually, 83 new judges. two thirds women. i have people of color. progressive judges, not just partners and wall firms and prosecutors -- and consumer advocates, things like that. that'll make that a lot easier. the second thing it does is, you can get different bills out of committee much more quickly. baird, we can have subpoena power, 50/50 you can't really get subpoena power. so, it means it's a lot easier to get things done. and when i thing, when you have

53 senators, and anyone senator can say, i'm not voting for them unless i get this duster that's. but when it's 51, it's hard to do. so you put all that together, plus that extra c, helps this in 2024 keep the majority, i'm always trying to think behind. it's a world of difference. i feel warnock is just a great person. he's been a great senator for georgia. service has been his motto. and -- as a senator. he's the person who took the lead on insulin and medicare only to cost -- is one of the people he's taken a lead -- poor farmers will get some help. they've been discriminated against in the past. he's one of the people who took the lead on expanding the aca somewhere people got health care. issues that really matter to people. warnock has already produced them. so if i was a georgian, and this race is gonna be decided by georgians, i'd say, this -- it's not a lot of rhetoric and bombast. it's serious stuff. >> senator schumer, one last question for you. the check he just made a moment

ago about how anyone senator, when it's 50/50, can stand up and decide they're gonna throw wrench in the works. it's not what i want, i gotta stop everything. this is a little delicate to say. but we all know that it was really senator sinema, we just mentioned a moment ago for her leadership on the marriage equality bill, and also senator manchin in west virginia, who were the ones who were kind of throwing a wrench in the works more often than anybody else. are you 100 percent sure but neither of them is considering switching to the republican party so they could be the start once again in an even bigger way? so they can walk you into the whole process? >> well, they've had difficult positions. i disagreed with them rather strongly and -- in the past, they have strong beliefs, different ways. senator sinema is passionate on lgbtq rights -- won't find much of a home in the republican party there, i suppose. manchin has been very progressive on certain issues as well, including prescription

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at the time. this was the headline. comey and mccabe, who infuriated trump, both faced intensive irs audits. michael schmidt at the new york times reporting in july thought of all the tens of millions of taxpayers in this country, somehow, to the people donald trump hated most got picked, supposedly at random, for an audit so invasive that tax lawyers joke about it as an autopsy without the benefit of that. that was the times reporting back in july. now, that already troubling story has gotten significantly worse. trump's longest serving chief of staff, john kelly, but when you see holding the door for his boss here, john kelly now tells the new york times that yes, those audits were instigated because trump asked for them. quote, yes, trump wanted irs investigations of -- john kelly telling reporter michael schmidt -- i would say it's important to get, it's illegal, it's against their integrity, and the irs knows what it's doing, and it's not a good book.

trump responded, yeah, but the writing back -- bad things about me. the former president is denying these allegations from john kelly, a spokesperson for the former president called john kelly today a psycho. that's what the spokesperson said, he's a psycho. that's nice. why do you pick a psycho to be our longest serving chief of staff? but this is a big deal. and potentially criminally big deal for anybody at the irs who might have gone along with this kind of improper pressure. and also, for donald trump, if he in fact ask for the sort of thing to be done. it's a federal crime for anyone, including the president, to request, even indirectly. an audit of anyone. it's against the law to abuse the power of the irs in that way. if trump asked for it, it's illegal. if trump asked for it and the irs then did it, it's illegal

on a couple different levels. talk when this story first emerged this summer, it appeared likely the treasury out department would investigate the issue. we're told tonight that a report from that inspector general investigation is actually expected quite soon. if we get anything definite, we'll let you know. but for now, you can add this new reporting on the potential criminal actions of abusing the power of the irs, he can add that to the pile of legal worries the former president as already against him right now. just today, he defied a lawful subpoena to testify to the january 6th investigation in congress. he, today, remains in legal jeopardy and the state of georgia, where a grand jury continues to investigate the effort to overturn the 2020 election results in that state. georgia governor brian kemp is reportedly testifying in that state grand jury criminal investigation tomorrow morning. trump also remains and legal jeopardy over the classified documents he's alleged to have taken when he left the white house. plus, this company is actively on trial right now in new york on criminal charges of fraud. plus, the new york attorney general is continuing a civil suit against that company for alleged fraud. and so, of course, and not propitious environment, donald j trump has decided that tomorrow is the perfect day for him to announce that he's running again for president.

all right, since everything else is going as way anyway, and people just clamoring for his return, nobody has ever declared a run for president. not just under a cloud, but enveloped in a suffocating fog of scandal. with the legal jeopardy still unfolding across multiple states and jurisdictions. nobody has ever announced a run for the presidency under those circumstances. whatever reason, that's apparently what can change tomorrow. congratulations to us. presidential history, about to be made on our watch in the worst possible way. watch this space.

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projection -- excuse me, it's 220 seats is the projection now. it has a margin of error of plus or minus four seats. so even if they do get control, it's gonna be a very slim majority. we've seen a few tiny house majorities in history. the washington post good did a good reminder today of one we've had really wafer thin majorities in the house in the past, and what the consequences have been. one of those rare instances was right as the u.s. entered world war i. another one was right around the events of 9/11, and both those cases, big, world changing world events ended up outpacing what was otherwise expected to be total partisan gridlock. but there's other cases where partisan gridlock ended up being what held the day. that can be a very consequential thing to you. in the spring and summer of 1932, we've talked about this a few other times on the show, tens of thousands of u.s.

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franco, i have a podcast he might've right about. it's called ultra. it's been doing great. i'm really proud of. it is eight episodes in total, episode number seven, second to last episode, just posted online today. it is a doozy. you can listen to all trips for free anywhere that hosts podcasts. just go to msnbc. com slash ultra to check it out. but does it for me tonight, now it's time for the last word with lawrence o'donnell. good evening, lawrence. >> good evening, rachel. there's two kinds of people who listen to what you just said. and they are the lucky people who've already listened to episode seven today, and then there's the other lucky people that includes me who have not yet listened to episode seven, who can look forward to it, and in my case, listen to it